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Great video. To be honest I would have found it easier to understand if you would have split the different settings up by 1-9 as that's how Rocky Mountain does it.

@evobeestje

3 жыл бұрын

yeah same for me

@ginjsta

Жыл бұрын

Would you be willing to add 1-9 to this video? It would be amazing!

@jbtvt

11 ай бұрын

"RM moved the Ride 9 chip from the top of the shock to the bottom and re-numbered in positions. In the 2018 bikes the positions go from to slackest, lowest, and most progressive in Position 1 to steepest, highest, least progressive in Position 9."

This is exactly what I’m all about when I see people testing things! Just being true and honest to ones abilities and what one truly wants from his or her setups! Killer video/riding/edit... all of the above ☝🏼🌲🚲💨❤️

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching man!!! This was a bit of a push to film and edit, but hey, I learned something!

Video idea - Logan swaps the setting and doesnt tell you. Eliminates placebo affect. You ride and comment how it felt without know what setting it was in. Love your non-E vids Jeff. keep killing it.

I’m so glad someone recommended your channel to me. Not only are you a phenomenal rider, but one of the few channels i watch 100% of the videos because they are so well done. 🤘🏻

I actually own this bike (also in rally spec). The adjustments work for me - but 9 different positions is a touch much. I usually ride Pos.2 with the short chainstays for the majority of enduro/downhill trails. I'll maintain this geometry position but throw the chainstay to the long position for bikepark stuff for more stability through berms and longer machine built sections. If im riding smaller tighter trails or more xc stuff it's nice to steepen the head angle to 65 (neutral) or more (pos.8) to handle tighter snappier turns as well as increase bottom bracket height for fewer pedal strikes - so farin these conditions i run the chainstays in the short position as well. But to your point I feel like I could run this bike in neutral for nearly every scenario and be fine - but that may have a bit more to do with the 38 up front in this spec. I feel like running a 36 you'd feel the need slightly more to steepen the HTA a bit in order to plow through rougher steeper stuff - but thats just a guess.

I'm rolling an instinct here in the"Ham" so this was cool to see! Very surprised you're not feeling the slacker settings. I think as a lower skiled and older rider, I like having more tire out front, but I'm going to revisit neutral for sure. Keep up the great vids!

Just wanted to say thank you for doing this video. I have a 2020 Altitude and I am familiar with the Ride9 system. For whatever reason I did not even consider the progressive setting and how it would help to prevent me from blowing through my travel since I started riding a coil. Spring rate was correct, but just wanted a little more support. Neutral, Progressive Setting. It is perfect for my setup. Thanks again! Great Video!

I just got a new Stumpy Evo. After a few rides I’ve settled in on the steepest head angle and high bottom bracket. Seems to be the best for our trails here in Redding Ca.

I saw an owl for the first time out the other day. Spent probably 5 minutes just looking at it. Fascinating bird, amazed how quiet it was when it flew away! Great video, great topic.

I have a 2020 yt jeffsy comp 29r. It has a flip chip from low to high. After watching this video I went for a ride in the high setting and really enjoyed the ride compared to stock settings. I didn’t think it would matter but it did. Thanks for the insight.

I use offset bushings to steepen or slacken head angles depending on how efficient I want it to climb. Or raise lower bb for tyre size 2.6 lower 2.3 raise. Great video as always

I still want a Showdown of the Jeffs; Cayley, Kendal-Weed, and Lenosky

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!! Got you covered Ethan! Here's some riding with Jeff Cayley from back in 2017 up in Fernie, BC: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKaNo6V7Z7vFk8o.html Here's some riding with Jeff Lenosky: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaB81JRqiqyTocY.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/eI5h1bahZc6Xcbg.html Lenosky's vids: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKSHs6Z_YciwfZc.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/moqYx7KSXZrFmMo.html

@Phonophobia

3 жыл бұрын

You missed the most important Jeff. The Dude.

Well done Again! That detail is hugely important to get an understanding on what the Ride 9 can do.

Thanks for the most informative video yet on the Ride 9. I had to take notes the second time I watched it. Ive been riding the Instinct for 2 years. I ride lots in Tucson, which is super tech as you know. I also ride Sedona a bunch and would never miss a bike park. At 150 lbs I’m set in neutral/regressive (pos 6). As you pointed out, good for lighter folks. I’ve also removed volume spacers to try and get into the travel more. It seemed initially I wasn’t getting full travel with 30% sag. This bike does it all, coupled with some Enve 630s. It always has me riding above my skill level with an occasional sacrifice of skin and pride!!

@carlosmedrano3549

Ай бұрын

what number is the 3rd run i’m in the more heavier side at 225

Just bought a RM Element. Very helpful to see and hear your experience.

Thx for testing them all!

This video was top notch. Keep it up Jeff

Great video. I have a GT Sensor. Tried in low first and then settled on high. Less pedal strikes. Easier to manoeuvre in low speed sections and tight corners like switchbacks. A little more reach which helps fitment and gets a bit more weight on the front for steeper climbs. I feel that 66 degrees is slack enough for most trail riding and I don't even drop my post 1/2 as much as I did on my 69 degree old Norco Fluid. If I go somewhere with more serious downhill sections, it's nice to know that I have the ability to go back to low.

Awesome video love your effort makes me want to mess with my settings now

I have a Rocky Altitude with the Ride 9 adjustment. I use my adjustments several times a year. I run mostly in the neutral-progressive spot but will slack it out for the park days. I have just over one full degree of HTA adjustment in the system. The Ride 9 was deff a selling point but not the only reason I bought it. LOVE My Rocky Altitude!!

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Great feedback, thanks Simon!

I still have an Intense M9, which has even more adjustability. Adjustable dropouts, flipchip rear shock, 3 position progression front shock, and a angleset headset, and of course shock/fork setup. It's awesome and I miss having all that versatility in most of the new bikes out there. I have not ridden much DH in a couple years, but when I was riding it I would set it up different for different areas. I do mess around with bike setup as much as I can with other frames, so its a personal thing.

I got my C70 this week and was surprised how often I was pedal/ chainring striking on my fav trails vs past revision of altitude ... my next step was to move to neutral progressive from default and I think that will be right in line with what you found ... thanks for the demo.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy Julian! The adjustment is rad. I don't notice any higher BB with the neutral/progressive. If anything, that would allow you to run less air pressure but not bottom out excessively. To raise the BB I'd say go sack/regressive. Then run a little more air pressure for less sag. The regressive suspension will then allow you to get full travel, and the slacker HA will feel good with the firmer shock.

@wpautz

2 жыл бұрын

2 solutions: choose composite pedals rather than metal. makes those pedal strikes less jarring. Also, you can change your cranks for shorter ones. if that makes pedalling too hard, just go from 32t to 30t on front chain ring.

Thank you very informative, interesting insights!

I have a 2013 Altitude and I’m going to switch it up. Thanks 🙏🏽 Your riding style makes me nervous! 🤣 most of us aren’t that bouncy!

Great video.....however, Logan looked gassed and you were the one riding! LOL Thanks guys!!

I adjust the geo of my Devinci to the low setting when going to Kingdom Trails, which is pure, rock-free flow. Rest of the time keep the bottom bracket high for rock clearance. Guessing geo adjustment matters less if you just manual the whole trail like JKW 😂

@siddhantmishra3598

3 жыл бұрын

Just ride a mountain unicycle bruv 😎

Freaking awesome Jeff! Got two buddies who ordered the new Altitude. It looks so good, can't wait to try it next year!

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Nice Jorden, the Altitude is RAD- I'm really enjoying it!

I have left my knollys in the slack setting and it's great

Would be great if you added the actual ride 9 setting as well. Ive got a Altitude powerplay with the ride 9 and im experimenting with it at the moment

Finally! Someone actually taking a look at these Ride9 settings. Unfortunately I don't think it's put me any closer to know where I should have my 2019 Instinct. I've had it right in the middle, and haven't really had any need to change it, other than curiosity. I'm getting ready to switch over to 27.5+ wheelset, so I might want a setting that raises the bottom bracket.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Ben, none of these settings should really raise the BB much, at least, i didn't notice big BB height changes. However, from a geometry standpoint, the slackest, most regressive setting is a good start. Run your shock with slightly more air pressure, for less sag. While this will be a little firmer up top with less sag, in the regressive setting you'll still be able to get full travel. Using the slackest position is good, since using less sag would effectively steepen the head angle.

That was good, thank you. For a minute I didn’t think you were going to tell us which your preferred 😜

Yes, YT Capra. It came in the low setting. I put it into the high setting and I've left it there. It helps the Capra to climb really well and it still descends great. I always have the seat post down when descending so I just leave the flip chip in the high setting.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Great feedback Christie!!! I have a hunch that adjustable BB heights would be awesome. Some places really do benefit to have some higher clearance!

I had a Rocky Instinct and played with all 9 settings, different fork travel 140mm-160mm, 29er and Mullet set ups. I ended riding most often with 160mm fork in the steepest least progressive setting because it provided the best pedaling efficiency but still had decent downhill capability. I sold it, and bought a Rocky Instinct Powerplay. No compromise for pedaling efficiency. Run the bike with 160mm fork, 155mm rear (BC edition setting, slackest most progressive) and in a Mullet set up.

@bryanmonaghan6429

3 жыл бұрын

My exact setup but with a mullet and a Pipeline with the Instict cup race.

I'm riding a canyon strive cf 5 from 2019. It has the "shapeshifter 2.0" feature, which let's me change geometry on the fly. Ive got ascend and descend mode. But unfortunately it is very flat where I live, so I mostly have it in ascend mode to make it easier to pedal. And I often forget to change while descending. But it does make a difference :-)

Kona has had adjustable dropouts throughout the years. Extremely excited for the Process X and the flipchip on seatstay for running Mullet.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Right on man- adjustable dropouts is cool, the "wheels on the ground" folk will love the longer set up, and us jumpers can keep the short stays we love!

My Spartan has it and I have genuinely used it. It's a large frame but still runs (well, ran. It's a 2016. They improved the reach) a little short for a large. I upped the Lyrik to a 180, which slacked the head angle a bit then I switched it to the "high" setting and picked up a bit of reach at what the head angle used to be on low. Definitely not a drastic difference, but enough to notice.

It would be interesting to see how you are making those adjustments and how they designed it to work.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Totally- in the end I didn't want the video to be dedicated to solely this one bike, I wanted to inspire people to consider tweaking their own bikes and doing a little testing. I actually cut a lot of stuff talking about this bike, which I'll include when I post a ride report video. Thanks again for the note!

The sliding dropouts on my hardtail turned out to be more useful than I expected. Thought I’d just slam it forward and forget it but after playing with it a bit I ended up leaving it in the middle (about 435mm) for a really nice balanced feel. It actually improved my manuals a bit too

@JeffKendallWeed

Жыл бұрын

Trying the different lengths teaches a ton! Thanks for sharing, Adam.

Rocky mountain Thunderbolt 2018, yes I have use it to make it a bit slacker. You do feel the changes.

Another awesome vid mate..👍

Just bought one of these and im sooooo excited to ride it. Just waiting for it to get wrapped.

I love the adjustability on my bike. Wish you could also adjust chainstay length as well

I flip mine. Got some rocky tech in PA i like riding high, then i also ride places sometimes that's mostly flow and i adjust. Great option. Pivot does theirs well.

I experimented some with my '18 RM Altitude A3. Ended up in position 4, so progressive suspension and neutral geo. And a bunch of air pressure in the shock to help the pedaling efficiency and bottom out resistance, ha.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the note Mike! I've never ridden the older Rocky bikes, curious what that felt like!

Specialized srumpjumper evo. 64.5 and high on the local trails, enduro. 65.5 and low on the flat trails, longer distance. 63.5 and low - bikepark.

Excellent Topic ! Everyone seems to be doing it.

Great video. Can you do it again but also with the adjustable chainstay length with each ride 9 setting.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

lol nope! Not gonna bother with riding the long chainstays much, my style is to jump a lot. The longer stays on the ebikes are a real buzzkill for me as it is.

I have a Knolly delirium and warden which have a regular a slack setting. Been riding both in the slack setting always.

I ride an OG Canyon Sender, I have a -1 degree headtube cup, and a flip-chip on the chainstay which I run in the short config. I'm a short guy and prefer the poppability of shorter chainstays on this bike.

I have a 2016 Altitude and have the ride-9 in the slackest geometry and most progressive suspension as my favorite

You really should put 'RM RIDE9 - all 9 settings tested' in the title! 🤙🏻

Cool video! If you change the geometry does the pressure in fork or damper need also some adjustment? Like you have more progression and this allows to ride with less pressure.

I have canyon's shapeshifter, it's a lever actuated piston that moves the shock changing the HA by 1,5°, travel between 160 and 135 and BB height by 2 cm. Very useful and noticeable, best part is you can activate it while riding: i always use it!

What about chainstay lenght? For me it was a game changer. The bike really impressed me when I put it on long chainstay. Different beast. It became FAST! I'm 6'2" and rode the XL, long chainstay makes so much sence for XL size.

@theguy1633

3 жыл бұрын

How does it effect Climbing?

Pulls up looking like a total dad. Shreds better than everyone else 👌

Hey Jeff great video, what fender are you running up from?

Thanks so much for this. I have a 2018 Altitude and have been trying to figure out the ride 9 for awhile. The Rocky Mountain documentation on it does not explain the progressive/neutral/regressive positions. They also don't do a good job of grouping 1-2-3 as slack 4-5-6 as neutral, 7-8-9 as steep. I like the steep setting for my riding. I could never figure out why setting 7 felt so much different till now. I'm light so seem to like the neutral regressive one too. One question. The geometry changes too. Did you also change stem/risers when going between the slack/neutral/steep positions?

My Giant Trance X has a flip chip, but I haven't switched it yet.

Nukeproof Reactor flip chip. Haven't yet but will when I go to the bike park.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the note Sinister- I had no idea Nukeproof bikes were adjustable!

My Devinci Spartan has the flip chip, but I've never had it in the hi configuration, always been in lo. Occasional pedal or crank strike in the tech but never hit the bash guard. I should play with it maybe, the hi setting might be more appropriate for most the local trails.

In closing your favorite setting was the second run, neutral-most progressive. However during your second run you said it was in the neutral-regressive/digressive setting. Can you clarify which setting was your favorite and has your opinion changed since? Your videos helped me decide on my next bike; picking up my Altitude C50 tomorrow!

Nice video. Lots of similarities to the stump jumper evo you rode for awhile and also had the adjustments. Which bike do you like better of the two?

i have a 2020 Slayer 29 with Ride 4. it's the bomb. i would never have bought it if it didn't have the option of adjusting the geo. i ride the steepest setting on pure xc trails (which it sees a few times a year), the neutral setting most the time and the second slackest (setting 3) for our steepest trails or rides with the fastest descenders. it's brilliant and each setting matters. setting 3 is too slack for regular trail rides. so you might ask why i ride a Slayer on 'regular' trails at all. well it's so dam good and pedals so well no matter the trail or terrain, that i just got rid of my other bike. i can't get my head around the Ride 9 option, but Ride 4 is easy to use, understand and feel each difference.

I am considering a RM Instinct and would absolutely use the adjustbility to set the bike up for me where I ride. Once I have established what works best, I probably wouldnt change it much unless I made a shock change or went to ride an area that is much different than my normal terrain.

@NiSE_Rafter

Жыл бұрын

The previous owner of my thunderbolt said he would leave it in neutral 90% of the time then put it in full slack for special occasions.

I got Guerrilla Gravity frame and it's awesome!

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Nice man- those guys make some SOLID bikes!

On my Altitude Powerplay the adjustments make a big difference. In order to ride the roller sections properly at a local skills park, and by that I mean in order to have the pop to pump, manual and jump them well I need the 7 or 9 positions (high and steep). On the trail moving down to position 5 (neutral setting but comparatively lower and slacker) feels a lot better as you are more planted and “in the bike” which helps cornering, and stability. Get Rocky to send you a Powerplay! Would be interested to see what you would think. It may be the funnest bike I’ve owned.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Nice feedback Warren! Id love to ride the Powerplay but I don't think any are available. I'm also learning that my viewers don't enjoy eMTB content much, so I'll probably publish less eMTB stuff in the future.

My bike is a hard tail. It don’t have adjustable frame geometry. Interesting comparison with those geometry and suspension settings.

Great video. I’ll have to experiment with mine. What front fender are you using? Looks good on your bike.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

That's an RPR, from the UK. I got it from their distributor in Canada. Weird UK company, but the fenders are pretty good. It does flap around quite a bit, and make plenty of noise, but somehow that doesn't come through when we film!

I ride a 2020 stumpjumper with a flip chip. I found riding in the slack position, the small stability improvement going downhill wasn't worth the extra pedal strikes with the lower bb. Especially riding our New England style technical trails.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Great point! The NE guys always mention pedal strikes- same with the AZ crew.

Would be great if you could reference Rockys number system for the different settings. If I’m right, your sweet spot was #4 right? What number would you go with for a long backcountry ride with huge ascents and long non technical single track descents?

@ErhardFrebold

5 ай бұрын

I'd go with 9 (steep, linear) if you're light and 7 (steep, progressive) if you're heavier; 4 (neutral geometry, progressive) if you're really big. By the way the order Jeff tests in the video is 5, 6, 4, 7, 8, 9, 3, 2, 1 and 4 is his favourite.

I have a 2018 YT Capra 29er. I have changed it to the high position and prefer the low position.

Thanks for doing this video Jeff. Have watched it quite a few times trying to gleam info from in on how to setup my bike. My 2021 Instinct arrived in April. Thoroughly love this bike and the ride9 system. Enjoy the fact that I can change the bikes geo and riding characteristics based on area or trails. Typically for our flat prairie trails I'm usually in the Steep or Nuetral geo settings. Went out west to the Rockies this summer and was using the slack settings. Recently someone in the pinkbike forum posted that thry got a response from Rocky Mountain clarifying the Ride9 settings. Which is completely different than what I had thought it was. Figured I'd share: "There indeed seems to be a mistake in the 2018 guide. The best way I can explain Ride 9 is the following. Horizontal adjustments affect the geometry and vertical adjustments the suspension curve. Positions 1,2,4 are slack geometry, 3,5,7 neutral geometry and 6,8,9 steep geometry. Positions 4,7,8 are the most progressive, 1,5,9 are neutral and 2,3,6 are regressive suspension curves."

@Jukis82

2 жыл бұрын

1, 2, 3 for slack. 4, 5, 6 for neutral. 7, 8, 9 for steep. 1, 4, 7 for supportive. 2, 5, 8 for neutral. 3, 6, 9 for plush.

@colin1778

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jukis82 thats what I always thought too. but according to Rocky 3,5,7 are your nuetral geo/shock settings, 1,2,4 are slack geo/shock settings and 6,8,9 are steep geo/shock settings. Which makes sense when you look at the chart and the relation of the shock positions.

I have an instinct, always been in neutral/neutral. Thinking of going steep/neutral since i do a lot of xc style riding in dallas, would go to neutral/progressive whenever doing enduro.

Love the adjustable travel/geometry of my guerrilla gravity, very noticeable. Would love to see your opinions any of their bikes,

Hi Jeff, were you riding it in the long chain stay position or in the shorter (adjustable flip chip in the rear axle)?

My Radon Slide Trail 9 from 2021. have flip chip. It allows me to have two different types of geometry. I never used it though. I might fiddle with it now once I saw this... I'm planing to have my own garage or better yet bike-man-cave... Then I'll have space to operate on my bikes.

I ride a commencal clash and don't have a flip chip. But i did put a rockshox boxxer on the front and it felt sick

My Banshee Rune V3 has adjustable geo. Built it up in "low" and never touched again. I think usually its placebo for most people. The biggest factor is probably pedal strikes.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that folks get used to most anything. But the differences are pretty apparent! I rode in the slack/low and progressive position for a few days and really didn't like it- and the change made a HUGE improvement. On a side note, I've seen plenty of demo events where riders come back to return the bike and say they loved it- and I look down and notice the suspension was locked out! I ask if they adjusted the suspension or turned any knobs, and they;'ll say they didn't touch anything the whole time. Placebo is huge!

@brianfurtaw7893

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffKendallWeed I made this mistake in Lake Tahoe, bike shop mechanic locked out frame for me because I had a bit of a road climb from the town to the trails, had a great ride killer terrain realized frame was locked out on the road ride back down the mountain. Suspension is not totally dead when locked out.

@jdmbeaner182

3 жыл бұрын

How do you like the rune? I have a prime v2

My GT force has the Low and High setting, i have not tested changing them and then do a run on the same trail to feel the difference.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man Fharga, it can make a pretty noticeable difference! You'll learn about your bike and your own riding in the process. If you get a moment, try it!

My Canyon has high/low rear setting, I use the high one because I found that I get less pedal strikes. The low one feels a bit faster going downhill though.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Great point Timo! I'm a big fan of BB height adjustments, thats the most common theme mentioned in these comments here.

I've got a '19 Guerilla Gravity Shred Dogg / Megatrail (the difference is 2 different shocks with the longer shock == MT) and each has 2 positions. I like the long shock/longer travel and shorter shock/shorter travel modes best. That works out to 135mm and poppy vs 165mm and plush. The in betweens didn't really do it for me.

Hey Jenson seems i was wrong, I got a 2018 and I was told 1.2.3 are the most progressive but looks from your video is 1.4.7 ? Does have the new Altitude the same flip chip behavior setting?

Due to my riding environment, my adjustable frames have always stayed in the highest position and I have NEVER put them in the low. I just increase my fork 10mm longer to get more BB height.

This was my 3rd summer on my 2018 capra 29. I did the 1st year in low, 2nd in high, 3rd in low. In high mode it pedals better and turns sharper. In low it feels better on steeper and techy descents. Ive basically just matched it to the type of riding I seem to be focusing on that year. On paper, I want the new stumpy evo to be my next bike. I like how they are doing the adjustments at the headtube and rear axle instead of a flip chip. I think it's pretty neat to be able to make the head tube slacker and the seat tube steeper. It's usually both getting slacker.

For those asking what Ride9 positions he was in it goes from lowest to highest down in progression so: Slack/progressive = 1 Slack/neutral = 2 Slack/regressive = 3 Neutral/progressive = 4 Neutral/neutral = 5 Neutral/regressive = 6 Steep/progressive = 7 Steep/neutral = 8 Steep/regressive = 9

@abelramos8652

3 жыл бұрын

But he said his favourite is neutral geometry progressive (on the second run) and thats not why his show in the video(second run regressive neutral) ... what im missing?

@boridley9044

3 жыл бұрын

I had to edit this comment as I neglected to mention something previously. What is interesting here is that Rocky Mountain changed the position of the chip from the older version bikes to the newer version of bikes. (I did not know this when I first watched video and commented.) My bike has the chip on the top portion of the rear shock closer to the front of the bike. The newer bikes have the chip on the lower portion of the bike closer to the rear of the bike. With that in mind: the positions on the grid have different effects. So be aware, and pay attention to the chip position on your specific bike. Newer bikes (2018 and newer like in the video above have the chip closer to the rear tire), the grid is like this: 3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7 -positions 1,2,3 are for slacker geometry which can be better for downhill but with less responsive steering -positions 3,6,9 are for heavier riders and a more progressive stroke -positions 7,8,9 are better for steeper geometry for climbing and traction while climbing with quicker turning. -positions 1,4,7 are for lighter riders and a more linear stroke of the rear shock. -position 5 is neutral all around. Older bikes like mine (pre 2018 with the chip closer to the front of the bike), the grid is still like this: 3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7 However: -positions 1,2,3 are better for steeper geometry for climbing and traction while climbing with quicker turning. -positions 3,6,9 are for lighter riders and a more linear stroke of the rear shock. -positions 7,8,9 are for slacker geometry which can be better for downhill but with less responsive steering -positions 1,4,7 are for heavier riders and a more progressive stroke -position 5 is neutral all around. So, the runs in Jeff's video would look like this: Run 1: Neutral /neutral: Run 2: Neutral/regressive: Run 3: Neutral/progressive: (this was his favourite setting and what he went back to on his final run. When he said his favourite was his "2nd setting", he meant his 3rd run, after having made the "2nd" adjustment) Run 4: Steep/progressive: Run 5: Steep/neutral: Run 6: Steep/regressive: Run 7: Slack/regressive: Run 8: Slack/neutral: Run 9: Slack/progressive: Run 10: back to his favourite which was run 3 or his 2nd adjustment from his neutral/neutral starting position. Runs 4, 5, and 6 he talked about twitchy steering or light steering, because all 3 runs were in positions 7,8, and 9 based on 2018 and newer chip position: (more of a cross country geometry). He liked climbing uphill best for these 3 positions. Probably the best place to start is to do what Jeff did. The whole point of his video is for the rider to start somewhere and experiment. You may find different positions for different applications. Climbing vs. screaming downhill. Enjoy the ride.

@abelramos8652

3 жыл бұрын

@@boridley9044 thanks a Lot dude!

@boridley9044

3 жыл бұрын

@@brunohd4254 Yes. I didn't catch the different positions of the chip at first with respect to older vs newer models. I have the older version, and could not tell by the video at first that Jeff had the newer version. There was only a split second where you can tell he is working closer to the rear of the bike. Hopefully, my comment above will help people regardless of what model they have. It can be confusing for many people. Even going to the website you have included, (which I did earlier) not everyone will notice their chip is in a different spot (like I didn't), and confusion can be the result. I tried to be as clear as possible. Cheers.

@brunohd4254

3 жыл бұрын

@@boridley9044 no worries, cheers

I have a Knolly Warden which has two geo settings, neutral or slack. It came in the neutral setting and I left it there to start. I’d been having a hard time getting my suspension set up right so I decided to change to the slack position to see if it made any difference with my suspension feel. To be honest I didn’t notice a change. I’m not much of a fiddler so I’ll probably leave in the slack position now and just forget about it.

@jeffsharp4982

3 жыл бұрын

Great video by the way!

2021 Altitude actually has 18 different geometry positions since there’s an additional two positions via the flip chip to n the rear axle that supplement the ride-9 system

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but I don't like long chainstays. I guess I *should* try the longer setting, but I'll be going into it sceptical!

@brass289

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffKendallWeed That's understandable given your riding style. Would still be nice to get your take on the differences because of your bias towards shorter poppy bikes. Perhaps not over all the possible combinations but maybe just the steep, neutral and slack settings.

"RM moved the Ride 9 chip from the top of the shock to the bottom and re-numbered in positions. In the 2018 bikes the positions go from to slackest, lowest, and most progressive in Position 1 to steepest, highest, least progressive in Position 9."

How does this bike climb in your opinion? Also, what size Ru on?

How about chainstay lengths? How much of an impact does it have to have 10mm shorter chainstays with similar or the same fornt triangle length?

I have a RM ride 9 Instinct and I would have found your review a lot more helpful if you had mentioned the settings by numbers 1- through 9. Personally I started in 5 and have tried 4, 3 and 2. I preferred and found a big difference in 3 vs 4 and 5. Now I am riding in 2. 2 and 3 are better for steep and that is what almost everything is where I live. Thanks.

@topspot4834

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed it would've been helpful, but most of us don't have the same bike so easier to follow along with the description. Probably should've done both!

@joelfafard

3 жыл бұрын

@@topspot4834 Thank you, and I should have mentioned that review was helpful and appreciated. In retrospect, I see my comment was a little blunt. Happy Trails.

Evil Offering: Low/Xtra-low. I've always ridden it in X-low. Perfect for the fast/long/loose descents in Flag, but considering the higher setting for Sedona this winter. As far as progression goes, I just learned Evil doesn't recommend any spacers in the shock. I tested this and went from 0-3 incrementally. Turns out, they were right. With each spacer the bike felt worse. By #3 the rear wheel felt like it was bouncing off everything, harsh through the chop, and the pedal kickback was horrendous, so food for thought..

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback man! Interesting that the bike is progressive enough that you don't need reducers. You are on the right track with a higher BB setting for Sedona IMO!

Hey Jeff ! Really cool video, especially for the folks who just bought the Altitude! I just received my Altitude 2021 2 weeks ago. I actually bought the bike specifically because it had a lot of adjustments for the geo. I live in the eastern part of Canada where we have a lot of steep/rocky trails but we also ride cross-country/gravel trail often. I wanted a bigger bike to handle bike park style trails as I mainly ride those types of trails, but I didn't want to loose the maneuverability aspects of a steeper/smaller bike for my backyard cross-country type trails. I feel like Rocky Mountain did a really great job on designing the new Altitude and I think it's a great versatile all-mountain/enduro bike because of those adjustments.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Nicely done man! I agree the adjustments are awesome- especially for a Canadian. If you build a bike to shred the north shore, it'll be massive overkill in Ontario. While not the only thing to consider by any means, having the ability to adjust the bike for terrain that is so different is pretty cool. Congrats on your new rig!

2018 RM altitude. tried like 5 of the 9 settings over the years. I always come back to slack-progressive (position 9). ends up with the same approximate geometry as the 2021 medium with the 27.5 wheels in neutral-progressive.

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Boom!!! Yeah mine feels so good now I don't really want to mess with it any more. In fact, I rode for 2 hrs this morning and didn't even think about the bike once- it was nice! Glad you've got your Altitude dialed in now too!!!

@anthonypetrucci2513

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffKendallWeed 2016 RM altitude I have it in the steeper-progressive setting, trails here are a bit different then out west, but when I go out west I adjust to slacker, so yes its nice to have adjustable geo (really beneficial if you travel with your bike all over)

@postro11111

3 жыл бұрын

Did you mean position 1 because that should be slack. Btw I have same bike and I still playing with it.

@ErhardFrebold

3 ай бұрын

@@postro11111 I think you're right. From the drive side, bottom left is slackest, and that's numbered as 1.

Moved my bike from low and slack to high , too many pedal strikes.

@samuelb7546

3 жыл бұрын

Did it help? I'm having pedal strikes issues but only on climbs

My Megatower has adjustments. I have settled into the short chainstay and steeper geo. When I get a mor me “down country” bike I think I’ll go long chain and slack. Does that make sense?

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

JB, the "wheels on the ground" folks tend to like the long chainstays. That along with folks who prefer to monster truck. Shorter travel bikes tend to do better when ridden with a more jumpy style, so the shorter stays are nice on those bikes.

Would have been handy for you to have shown the chip positions

I have a rocky with the ride 9 rear suspension and till now i havent changed it, but im looking to do so to match my other bike. problem with the rocky mountain is when you buy the bike, there is no pamphlet or manual on the ride 9 and its different setups.

@awsstvawsstv2809

3 ай бұрын

Its on the website under support owners manual

I have never changed my Devinci Troy out of the low setting. lol

@JeffKendallWeed

3 жыл бұрын

Boom! Great feedback Niles- thanks!