"But they must be destroyed" | How Rocky Mountain makes (and breaks) mountain bikes
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We visit Rocky Mountain's research and development lab on the North Shore of Vancouver, BC, to see what goes in to bringing a mountain bike from the drawing board to the trails.
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00:00 - History lesson with Wade Simmons
5:44 - Off topic?
7:42 - Talking with Lyle about their testing process
8:40 - Creating test bikes prior to development
10:50 - Head tube flex machine
12:15 - Breaking a frame
15:03 - Head tube strength
15:30 - Pedaling a bike to death on the pedal tester
18:13 - Ebike test mules
19:09 - Aligning frames on the alignment table
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Пікірлер: 95
Wade Simmons put a riser bar on my new Kona Caldera in the 90s when he was at the Cove shop. He and I were the only ones in the shop that night chatting it up and he said he was in a bike film premiering that week downtown in Vancouver. He told me that he hopes this whole free riding thing he was involved in takes off and was a success. Cool to have meet him that way.
Obi-Wan is an incredible bike engineer.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Who'da thunk! - Dan P.
@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
10 ай бұрын
Tell me you never get laid without actually telling me you never, and I mean never, get laid.
@mtbracer123
4 ай бұрын
@@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeshe said something funny why you hating
@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
4 ай бұрын
@mtbracer123 you kinda took that personally eh?
@mtbracer123
4 ай бұрын
@@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes not really your just being a dick for no reason
Wade has enough energy for two people.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
He was great. Absolute character. Cheers - Dan P.
@iffy_too4289
Жыл бұрын
He's like a Canadian Rob Warner!
That was pretty damn interesting, well done lads.
Lyle's comments about how small or new manufacturers with just a few frames under their umbrella having a tough time resonates with me. I had a Revel Rascal for a few years, which was honestly a pretty great bike in a lot of ways, but suffered greatly from poor frame alignment and quality. The bearings ate themselves, it always made noise, it was way heavier than it should have been. I think Revel has a lot of potential, but in retrospect I should have known better than to buy one of their debut models.
Awesome video. Very interesting. 👍
Great video all around. Fingers crossed Lyle doesn't join the dark side.
I only have one rocky. A red 1991 Rocky Mountain Hammer.
Nice to see what goes into making one of their bikes! I bought my first mtb, a RM Growler recently and it’s amazing I love bopping around town with it 😍
I could listen to Lyle explain stuff all day long.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
He was a wealth of knowledge, it was great talking with him! - Dan P
@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
10 ай бұрын
Kinda gay
Well done! Very interesting video. What about the pain test for their carbon frame?
This sales guy makes me want to buy a Rocky just watching this video. Great video guys! Cool to see so much of the brains and work to make great bikes.
Thanks for that insider look to a process we all take for granted. I was just as laid back as you think, but serious enough to have confidence in a product. I have now more respect for their bikes after seeing this, and been looking at RM bikes too to upgrade in the future.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Lyle was a wealth of knowledge, it was cool getting to talk to him. Holler if you ever have any questions about the bikes! - Dan P.
Great video!
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe! - Dan P.
I just bought my first rocky mountain 11 days ago, a growler, because I wanted a DH capable climbing bike for under 1k that I can play with and build over time. And because who wouldn't look like a psychopath showing up to the group ride on a hardtail with slacker geo than most fs rigs.😅🤙
I still own an old school Rocky Mountain Hammer in black. I also have a 2004 Balfa BB7 that was briefly owned by Rocky. Used to have a Blizzard that was hand built by Chris Dekerf.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Oh dang. That's some real bike history right there! Cheers - Dan P.
Good job Dan.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. - Dan P.
Very cool. My most ridden rocky is an element 70 from 2009. Never let me down.
great video!
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! - Dan P.
I have a Thunderbolt in the same Canadacentric paint scheme as seen at 0:33. I love the bike, and the look. In a sea of bikes that are black with accents in various neon colors, it really stands out.
@YouTubeOdyssey
10 ай бұрын
I'm in Wa. State, can you define " Canadacentric "?
@corydalus981
10 ай бұрын
@@KZreadOdyssey the red on white motif with the red maple leaves!
I have an ‘01 Slayer, still has the original tires on it. Clearly I didn’t ride it enough. Looks good though and looks brand new. 😊
I love doin' wheelies on my RM. It's a bit heavy for hours of wheelies, but I'm leaner than ever and old as dirt.
Very informative - I wonder if most mass produced frames get thorough testing like this.
@ronnie2.039
Жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain are mass produced
@ih302
Жыл бұрын
RM frames like basically every other company's frames are made in Asia, some of the best frames in the world come out of Taiwan. What you are seeing in this video is product development.
Snapped a seat stay right at the rear axle last year on my 2018 RM a instinct A50. Rocky did warranty it, but it’s a common occurrence with RM rear triangles. I did love my RM thou.
So fascinating. Glad I watched this.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!! - Dan P.
Uncle Wade!
I bought the rocky mountain fusion and upgraded few parts . Rm makes awesome bikes
Hoo Koo E Koo Trail is right out my front door!
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Rad!! Where abouts? - Dan P.
Very fascinating exposé, my kinda thing..
such an interesting video, thanks!
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
I thought freeride originated in Laguna in late 70’s early 80’s with Laguna tech terrain and the Rads?
now i did hit play,! and love it! more color grading tho eh..
many did the Element style. Giant, Caloi, Mongoose etc... but for cross country i thought they were the best as climbing means much to me
tell wade simmons to put some beard shine in! and that his designs are boss man bro siick! send it!
I have question, there are some bikes that are not like the main market let’s say a Slopestyle bike I have seen Rockymountain Slopestyle bike and it was really cool but of course they don’t sell it. What if companies just make it order to made or made to order something like that I would happy to wait
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head as to why they aren't mass produced-the brand doesn't see enough of a market for them. That said, these types of bikes are available from smaller manufacturers, I bet you could find one for sale with a little digging! Cheers - Dan P.
It’s like they’re making a new season of “The Red Green Show”!
I just but a deposit on (2) new Element C50s... this video only makes me more excited about getting the bikes...
Wade is a menace and I mean that in the best way possible lol
i did not yet hit play, just wanted to say, BEST FUXKING DESC/THUMB EVER!.
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
hahaha thanks!
I got a Growler 50 on the way!
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Ooo exciting!
He looks like the guy from myth busters💀
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Ha, he kinda does! Lyle was a great host and super informative. Cheers - Dan P.
2:12 you! wtf! thats how last years suspension was geometried and you were doing them "in the EARLY 200s ", siick, so so flex!
Lol these guys don't give a fawk... I like it!
Bike testing… of course it’s measured in cycles!
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Hahahah, good catch! - Dan P
Yup, he went way more rad than he should have.
After watching this, my next bike is going to be a RM...
17:21 sounds like they are lacking FEA simulation capabilities.
@maciejzwolinski4022
Жыл бұрын
Sounds more like FEA helps but real tests give touchable results
@tristanhanley8741
Жыл бұрын
FEA only tells you so much, definitely a GIGO situation though. There is a reason that physical testing still has a place in engineering
@andyjonathan2486
Жыл бұрын
@@maciejzwolinski4022 trial and error testing prototypes can be very expensive and much slower to arrive at a solution. When strain gauge measurements can be used in conjunction with FEA, the end model can be very accurate. Using the old-time “By Guess and By Golly” approach to design is antiquated and inefficient. I can’t think of a single automotive engineering company that will produce suspension components without FEA simulation beforehand.
@andyjonathan2486
Жыл бұрын
@@tristanhanley8741 agreed. Either the design engineer was provided garbage input loads into the shock tab, or he didn’t run any stress analysis before cutting metal. Definitely the test lab is the last line of defense to guard against component failures-I’m somewhat surprised RM shared this design flaw on KZread, as most OEMs are pretty tight lipped.
@maciejzwolinski4022
Жыл бұрын
Who said they don't run FEA simulations? Random guy in a KZread comment section? Take a look at Ministry cycles psalm frame - cracked prototype during efbe test despite FEA analysis. Same about kaventz.
You Know, You Know, You know. etc. ......
Go titanium ull have a bike for life
Boycott Rocky Mtn until they’re made in Canada again
Very informative, but it seemed like the cameraman was constantly on their phone distracted, things out of frame, moving around chaotically, little stabilization, etc. I had to stop watching because it felt like they were gonna walk away at random points.
Rocky Mountain had so much potential in the early 2000s. Now they're just an afterthought in the mind of the consumer.
So what’s the new bike they’re testing 🫣
Is the host a serial killer
@FanatikBikeCo
Жыл бұрын
Serial killer of bike frames!! Lyle was a phenomenal host and incredibly knowledgeable. - Dan P.
@southpawlibranine3511
Жыл бұрын
@@FanatikBikeCo i was talking about the host of the show not the rocky mountain employee
@MikeesTexas
Жыл бұрын
Dan has been known to kill trail features from time to time
How bout you stop over charging for your bikes and god sakes change the paint. Rocky mountain has some of the worst paint jobs and boring looking bikes
@jennifergallant543
Жыл бұрын
Paint chips so easy on there bikes too crazy!!!
@mjor6406
11 ай бұрын
Do you buy a sports car based on interior materials and paint and not on handling and feel?