"Russia is no less competent in terms of modern warfare technology" Well, that's been proved otherwise, lol.

@nunoalvarespereira87

2 жыл бұрын

How?

@SS-kz7td

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunoalvarespereira87 How what?

@osakar941

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunoalvarespereira87 Do you live in a bush or ?

@chiselcheswick5673

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously not big on current affairs..

@Vejita12

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiselcheswick5673 No he just doesn't buy obvious lies from magix box. ;)

The only way to know who is better is a paintball fight, so no one gets hurt.

@user-dr8xr1tr9z

3 жыл бұрын

Каждый год всем желающим русские предлагают вступить в учебный воздушный бой с СУ-35 . прошло 7 лет . желающих до сих прор нет.

@gjswank

3 жыл бұрын

Untill one cheats and freezes their paintballs..

@Kevin-pd5xh

3 жыл бұрын

@@gjswank thats a myth

@christophersisto3645

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-dr8xr1tr9z Who would be dumb enough to allow a controlled situation for another country to study their technology?

@jacobrzeszewski6527

3 жыл бұрын

@@gjswank XD. Then someone uses a bearing ball.

"Russia is no less competent in terms of modern warfare technology" that didn't age well

@highdefinist9697

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. More like: The F35 would win by default, because the SU35 would not show up because it would have been shot down by Ukrainians before it could even get in range.

@mistrants2745

2 жыл бұрын

@@highdefinist9697 it would have dropped out of the sky before reaching the Russian border when its fuel ran out...

@SiberianMaestro

2 жыл бұрын

@@highdefinist9697 you're funny

@blakkelure

2 жыл бұрын

Read techology again...

@Makumazaan

2 жыл бұрын

@@highdefinist9697 I raise your bet. The F35 would win by default, because the SU35 would not show up because it would have been shot down by Ukrainians before it had been produced.

The doctrine differences are significant, Su-35 is clearly still based around the concept of close target engagement whereas western concepts are based around medium to long range engagement and network centric warfare. The average AMRAAM missile doesn't give much of a rip about the Su-35 having a bigger gun or thrust vectoring as it comes barrelling in at mach 4 from 80nm away. You can ask the Serbian air force how well supermaneuverability served their pilots during BVR engagements. At closer ranges those two enormously hot engines are an ideal target for the latest generation of sidewinder missiles which have significantly improved in their maneuverability compared to the older AIM-L/M variants. Basically it's touting your skill to fire an uzi when you are fighting an enemy that has carbines and sniper rifles.

@maryrafuse3851

Жыл бұрын

Excellent points all.

@hwbxjr

Жыл бұрын

Su35- 4gen f35- 5gen this could have ended comparison is incorrect

@arunprakashkumarakrishnan4741

Жыл бұрын

Why not just strap these AMRAAMs to a much cheaper Cessna 152. We are talking about air superiority fighters and not the payload's capability. Besides TWO hot engines is not much more of a heat signature than a single hot engine...its how you program the missile to recognize the heat signature, heck they can even lock onto heat being reflected by the sun through the fuselage

@crigeorge9549

Жыл бұрын

serbs didnt have awacs support , nor they had the best equiped variants in terms of electronic warfare(jaming), nor they could afford to atack in packs of over 20 aircrafts group and fire multiple missiles at a single target. So your example is irelevant. Same applies in Iraq.

@BlatentlyFakeName

Жыл бұрын

After seeing the total fail which is the Russian airforce in Ukraine. I think the SU-35's primary purpose is to look good at airshows.

I love How the cold war continued in the comment sections in youtube

@brianstevens7241

3 жыл бұрын

i love the cold war, PERIOD!

@unclezlatin1495

3 жыл бұрын

@nhà độc tài Yang Wen Li no one asked but ok

@NapoleonBonaparde

3 жыл бұрын

The cold war never ended it just paused for 20 years and continued after that mess in Libya

@blockvfive1196

3 жыл бұрын

ill solve it all i like the united states of russia (i like both lol)

@unclezlatin1495

3 жыл бұрын

@@blockvfive1196 this guy Just single handedly ended all national conflicts

Both are capable of killing each other, it's just a matter of who see first.

@joeblowme5427

4 жыл бұрын

And the F-35 would see and shoot fisrt

@rajaydon1893

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeblowme5427 you don't know how things play out in a war do you

@Aaron-wq3jz

4 жыл бұрын

@@rajaydon1893 no one does tbh

@dz7290

3 жыл бұрын

No the SU35 will shoot first

@joeblowme5427

3 жыл бұрын

@@dz7290 , IN YOUR WET DREAMS MAYBE

The lack of stealth is a problem not just against other fighters, but against anti-air ground weapons as well.

@chrismair8161

2 жыл бұрын

Then stay on the Ground.

@kisstamas7760

2 жыл бұрын

There are no stealth fighters, its just a propaganda. The first stealth fighter F-117 was shot down by an old russian radar and rocket system in the 90's, just by modifying the wavelength of the radar (by officer Zoltan Dani). The precise explanation of "stealth fighters" is that they are invisible for most of the radar systems, but not all.

@RocketboiC4

2 жыл бұрын

@@kisstamas7760 the door was jammed open, and the interior of the Bombay of the f117, get your fucking facts right

@VITOLLFOTOGRAFIA

2 жыл бұрын

@@kisstamas7760 absolute indectability does not exist, but it is a factor to take into account. In that case "something" was detected but not "where" they simply fired at random, the F117 was not even equipped with a radar alert, or countermeasures, the pilot simply did not know that he was being shot at, so he could not take any defensive action .

@khoipham2261

2 жыл бұрын

@@kisstamas7760 First off, the SAM operator correctly predicted the F117 bombing route, as it was used multiple times. Not only did the operator have early intelligence, but the bomber pilot didn't know they were detected in the first place. The low frequency radar gave early warning, however could not achieve a radar lock onto the F117 until it's bomb bay doors were opened.

An air-to-air missile isn't going to be impressed by flips and twirls by the SU-35. Dog fighting is nearly dead. Though it may happen once in a great while, designing your entire aircraft around it is a mistake.

@vrrc7686

2 жыл бұрын

Thing is the SU-35 was not created for dog fighting, that is the Mig35. Su035 mainly objective is a bomber, unlike the F35 that is mainly objective is dog fight.

@BipolarAyatollah

2 жыл бұрын

@@vrrc7686 Nope. The F35 is not a dog fighter. It kills before a dogfight has a chance to develop. It can perform air to air combat, but it has other capabilities as well.

@antonthompson7838

2 жыл бұрын

The F35 is a multirole combat aircraft intended to perform both air superiority and strike missions it’s also used for intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and electronic warfare. In a real air simulated battle they pitted six F22 Raptors against one F35 Lightning II, and yes the F35 took out all six Raptors before the F22 pilots even knew where the F35 was!

@Puschit1

2 жыл бұрын

It's all a question of what you are up to. If you are expecting enemies other than american F35 then the russian approach might hold true. Right now they are fighting Ukraine and they have jets of russian origin as well.

@vrrc7686

2 жыл бұрын

@@BipolarAyatollah - The main objective of the F35 was to dismantle the F16's in the future. What is the main objective of the F16's? dog fighting. Yes, the F35 can perform other capabilities. You hear that even on the russian side about the SU35, but their main objective of the F35 is dog fighting from a distance, while the SU35 is mainly a bomber w/ minor capabilities for dog fighting.

All I know, is that the SU-35 is one of the most gorgeous aircraft to ever grace the sky.

@machbaby

3 жыл бұрын

@Geo Thomas Probably from the engineers at Sukhoi.

@faronanderson2536

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is!What an impressive piece of engineering.Everytime I look at one,it reminds me of a deadly cobra snake!

@spartanx9293

3 жыл бұрын

Looks the same as an su27

@machbaby

3 жыл бұрын

@@spartanx9293 Yes- an upgraded variant.

@spartanx9293

3 жыл бұрын

@Robert S yeah they were totally not the aggressor during the war over Crimea

I hope they will never meet in a real-world scenario.

@LRRPFco52

3 жыл бұрын

@Douglas Jones Flying hunter of the shadows death-distributor, not a death-trap like a Flanker. Su-35 doesn’t even do very well against the Gripen C or J-10C. Why? Lower RCS values, better missiles. Guess who has a far lower RCS value and better missile PK than Gripen C or J-10C? Chinese PLAAF already did tactical exploitation of their Su-35S and concluded it’s a lot of hype. They want AESAs in their Flankers, with their own IRST and PL-15 missiles, not any of the Russian stuff. The only missile they liked was the R-73, but their copy of the Israeli Python HOBS missile is superior when they tested them. If you allow a Flanker to get within visual range of a 4.5 Gen fighter, it will be at least on parity with you. F-35 has IR stealth systems that make the WVR an uphill battle, so don’t ever get near an F-35 is all you can say. They don’t let you anyway, so it doesn’t matter. Rules of the new road...

@LRRPFco52

3 жыл бұрын

@Douglas Jones F-35s have their own Local Area Network with Line-of-sight data link, not omnidirectional Wide Area Network like 4th Gen fighters have. F-117A combat record: 1271 combat sorties in Desert Storm 850 combat sorties over Bosnia/Serbia 1 shot down 0 combat fatalities It has no radar, no EW, no radar warning, nothing but a good navigation system and FLIR + laser spot tracker hidden in the belly for guiding its Laser-Guided Bombs. They were ordered to fly the same corridor multiple nights in a row. The night in question, the EA-6Bs were down for maintenance, and Russian spotters in Italy relayed what aircraft were taking off. No EA-6Bs with HARM missiles meant SAM sites could search longer, be a bit more bold. Dani's SA-3 crew set their radars to lower frequency against orders, and got a brief glimmer of the F-117As when bomb bay doors were opened, then disappeared. They had to turn around and fly over the same area by orders of Clinton's SECDEF, while SAM batteries were scanning actively. Dani's crew saw them at 13km, manually tracked and fired a Salvo of 2 different SAMs from the site. One missed, while the other proximity-detonated near the F-117, causing a wing to shear off and go out of control. Pilot ejected and went into E&E mode, got picked up by AFSOF CSAR elements. Had that been an F-35, the F-35 pilots would have seen every tiny RF and thermal emission overlaid on high resolution AESA ground-mapping imagery from over the horizon, actively looking for SAM sites to smoke. Totally different ballgame.

@carlgreene538

3 жыл бұрын

I course they won't America or it's stooges only ever pick on countries that cannot fight back.

@LRRPFco52

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlgreene538 Like Russia invading Finland, Baltics, Georgia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Ukraine.....

@carlgreene538

3 жыл бұрын

@@LRRPFco52 I wasn't talking about Russia I was talking about America and not in the past but now.

i find both of these machines facinating and incredable but at the same time i hope they never get used fo actual combat

SU-35 is an air to air fighter and the F-35 is an air to ground fighter, shouldn’t be pitting the two together. F-22 would be a more appropriate comparison, and the SU wouldn’t stand a chance.

@WmSrite-pi8ck

2 жыл бұрын

F-35 is a multirole fighter.

@scolee6408

2 жыл бұрын

@@WmSrite-pi8ck: F-35 is multi configured for different branches of the military but in all configurations it is an air to ground fighter, big difference from a air to air fighter.

@asnovaable

2 жыл бұрын

cap,SU is 5x better

@scolee6408

2 жыл бұрын

@@asnovaable K

@ivanlagrossemoule

2 жыл бұрын

@@scolee6408 No, it's not. The F-35 wouldn't even look the same at all if it wasn't designed for air-to-air combat.

Hope these two will not meet each other.....

@joeblowme5427

4 жыл бұрын

Why not ? it will be fun

@commonsenselogic

4 жыл бұрын

Only at airshows.

@jzisers

3 жыл бұрын

if They Fight = World War 3

@shabab189

3 жыл бұрын

JOE BLOW ME yeah fun, so fun, in fact so much fun😐

@joeblowme5427

3 жыл бұрын

@@shabab189 , BLOW ME🤣🤣🤣

In a beauty contest its the SU35 every single time...

@spartanx9293

3 жыл бұрын

Beauty is subjective and russian planes are like supermodels nice line's from a distance but plenty of imperfections up close personally my favorite 4th gen aircraft Is the f/a 18 superhornet

@anuragtiwari5081

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergiosaudiolog2259 😁😁😂

@Bojan8309

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergiosaudiolog2259 Is what you think lol

@johntechwriter

3 жыл бұрын

Ha Ha Ha

@shaundavidssd

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with beauty is it's often lacking in brains ....

I would assume dogfighting depends on the quality of the pilot. Given recent events im not sure id place a large wager that russia is full of well trained active duty fighter aces.

@charlessmith3940

2 жыл бұрын

Conscripts make great pilots

@gourmetbanana

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlessmith3940 Wouldn't matter if all their bullets have been traded for Vodka 🤔

@squidysnose69

2 жыл бұрын

There arent any aces currently serving in the airforce

@Nickalaich

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlessmith3940 Conscripts cannot and would not be pilots in any circumstances. Special-trained officers only

@williamzk9083

2 жыл бұрын

Because of the F-35's stealth it will get a first shot first kill.

Whom ever sees the enemy first wins so this isn’t even close.

@robinjahn1294

2 жыл бұрын

that`s right, so being as undetectable as possible is an extremely important property (not online stealth capablities of the jet but the ability of the pilot to use stealthy tactics)

@lagrangewei

2 жыл бұрын

this assume if it is a 1 on 1, in large formation battle, you won't have the benefit of staying out of detection. especially if your mission is to protect other plane like refueler, bomber, transporter. than the problem of the F35 carrying only 4 missiles would become a worrying problem. this is why US is buying more F15. F35 is good for certain role but it can't do enough in a war where both side has 100s of planes...

@matthewhuszarik4173

2 жыл бұрын

@@lagrangewei You always have the opportunity to reduce your threshold of detection. There isn’t one tactic that fits all situations. Everyone assumed while the Iraqis had Russian equipment they couldn’t fly it as well or had the tactics of the Russians. Well he have now seen that the Russians fly Russian equipment no better than the Iraqis did.

@lagrangewei

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewhuszarik4173 which is my point. stealth can be a liability as much as an asset. as for your russian comment, it make no sense considering the russian were successful in supressing ukraine, this is why ukraine ask for a no-fly-zone. i am not sure why you bring that up when that is not what we are discussing. the silly statement that it is about who see who first is flawed. it is also a failure to understand early warning system.

@matthewhuszarik4173

2 жыл бұрын

@@lagrangewei The Russians have not successfully suppressed Ukraine air assets. That is why we have seen the Ukrainians taking out tanks, ammunition dumps, oil storage, and command centers from the air. The Ukrainians also haven’t been able to suppress Russian air assets. Right now the air war is the only part of the war that favors the Russians, but they still aren’t dominating it. That is why the Ukrainians have asked for a no fly zone. It hurts the Russians in the one area they have an advantage over Ukraine. It hurts Russia more than it hurts the Ukrainians. Stealth is never a liability unless you sacrifice some other critical resource to achieve it.

This comparison didn't age well. There is no comparison between those two. They are galaxies away.

@bengoacher4455

2 жыл бұрын

tbf Russia haven't deployed any to Ukraine. Although this is because they only have 4 which they use for airshows haha

@bjkarana

2 жыл бұрын

@@bengoacher4455 and even those 4 were probably just painted over F-15s, haha.

@jefflow1986

2 жыл бұрын

@@bengoacher4455 They are exclusively for airshows!

@kevadu

2 жыл бұрын

Well airshows are all the Su-35 is good for. It's pretty spectacular at them, though...gotta give them that much.

@TheLastCrumb.

2 жыл бұрын

True, the su probably works when it rains unlike some other planes

SU 35 is an amazing jet for strikes .. but F35 is a flying computer and it will always eliminate threats beyond visual range... F35 is just on another level.

@Jab_Air

2 жыл бұрын

@Tony MontanaRussia has lost more planes through accidents than it has in battle. The only Russian aircraft in history to have a positive Kill to Death ratio is the SU-27.

@PerSon-xg3zr

2 жыл бұрын

@Tony Montana f35b is the least maneuverable of the 3 variants. The f35b crash was because it injested a rain cover into its lift fan.

@johncostello3174

2 жыл бұрын

@Tony Montana Due to a rain cover that should have been removed before flight. Simple human error.

@seven.8228

2 жыл бұрын

Yes another level of uselessness

@startingbark0356

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jab_Air because old russian aircraft with bad pilots fought much newer american jets

At this point, the question is: which one would take off and not explode during cruise? And we all know the answer...

@dudfromnowhere

Жыл бұрын

What's the answer?

SU35: Power is everything! F35: You can't hit what you can't see!

@armancho76

2 жыл бұрын

lol ...SU 35 Pilot " peekaboo I see you " ...Italian F35 Pilot " mayday maday i need a diaper change" lmao

@Eugenetra7

2 жыл бұрын

@@armancho76 Making fun of yourself?)

@arielalicaway6554

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA SU 35 EASY TARGET ORDINARY U.S.A. MADE portable handheld missiles.... kill highest score.... SAD PUTIN OLD TECH

@DonnieTownsley

11 күн бұрын

If a flashlight can take out a junky F-35 so can an SU-35😂😂😂

@TheRealBillBob

3 күн бұрын

Actually the Su-35 can see it.

Something to note is that USAF has trained against allied MiG-29s in mock battles (thanks to the fall of the USSR). Of course there are going to be differences, but the general flight envelope of the MiG-29 & Su-27/35 are very similar. NATO has likely already understood the strengths and weaknesses of Russia's fighter jet design doctrine. This contrasts Russia, who hasn't had any experience with American jets except 80s F-14/16s. Also, the F-35A and F-22 handle have much superior AoA abilities compared to American 4th gen, so another mystery. *I pray to God that none of what I said will matter and WW3 doesn't break out, and I'm not even a fighter pilot so what do I know*

@jkim6200

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry. Not every expert at "Janes" or "Jane's" has combat experience. This includes experience flying military aircraft.

@legend9805

2 жыл бұрын

F15 they have iran and will also study about them hahaha

@Elpincheway

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter they have S300’s S400’s and now S500’s 😯😲

@jooger69

2 жыл бұрын

@@legend9805 Iran has the stripped out F-14A from the 1970s

@foshizzlfizzl

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you understand that you can't compare the capabilities of a MiG-29 or an Su-27 with a Su-35S or an Su-57? There are 20 years of modernization and development between them. Don't mistake the Su-27M (wich often was called Su-35) with the latest Su-35S, wich is based on a Su-30.

F-35. Hi SU-35. Hello S-400. HEY!! WELCOME TO MY WORLD 😆

@myusername3689

3 жыл бұрын

Hypersonic missiles: hey- SR-92: Haha laser weapons go brrrrrrrrrr

@bilakaeraastakeriada

3 жыл бұрын

SU-57: Hahah kids

@tropicalstorm339

3 жыл бұрын

@@bilakaeraastakeriada None has been delivered yet and the first batch of delivery (22) is set to occur by 2024. A production version is set to be shown this year at the Moscow air show in July.

@shankc3526

3 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalstorm339 They already have twelve that are built. The plane is officially in service.

@tropicalstorm339

3 жыл бұрын

@@shankc3526 A report as of January this year (2021) said that they received one on Christmas... *one.* It says that development of the Izdeliye 30 engine (the final production engine) is still ongoing. The first one delivered in 2019 crashed. The other 10 are *test aircrafts* and not for combat. Again, the engine that will eventually power the *real* SU57 is still in development.

Close combat SU35, range combat F-35

A Ukranian farmer with a sawn off shotgun could probably take down an SU35 too...

@okavipra

2 жыл бұрын

Well Serbia took down f117a stelth bomber , its not "could probably " . They took it down . Guess they didnt know it was stealth

@stuartmcmahon8870

2 жыл бұрын

@Yemini Killskids if we had wanted to slaughter the taliban then we could have done it easily. We used the tactics we did because we wanted the Afghan people to still have homes after the conflict. It may have worked to some degree, but it’s better than committing war crimes as Putin is doing!!

@ThatSB

2 жыл бұрын

@@okavipra they only took it down under circumstances that shouldnt have happened. They pushed forward with a flight despite poor conditions. Even still, only 1 was shot down. Under normal circumstances it never would have happened

@kisstamas7760

2 жыл бұрын

The ukrainien farmers are welcoming the russians, because the far right ukrainien nazis are randomly killing the ukrainien citizens since 2014. You have to read about the Maidan and other US backed coups to understand, why the russians have started this offensive.

@kisstamas7760

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatSB There were a lot of shot down. The coating of these warplanes absorbs the radar waves in the 1m range. If the radar operates in a different wavelength, the warplane clearly visible on the radar, this is why the F-117 was shot down by the hungarian officer Zoltan Dani in the 90's. He modified his radar's wavelength to operate in a different wavelength.

Avoiding sight contact with a defender by pre-elimination with further reaching ordinance is an ancient and well proven technique. Definitely favored in prolonging the lives of Pilots and aircraft.

@gillsejusbates6938

2 жыл бұрын

@Jesus is coming. Read the Gospel. you internet christ cucks are really off-putting

@AvroBellow

2 ай бұрын

This is of course assuming that the F-35 has no ordinance on its wings because as soon as it does, it's no longer stealthy and the Russians could pick-it off with their R-37M LAAMs while remaining safely outside of AIM-120 range. Even if an unladen-winged F-35 successfully takes down an Su-35, it will be doing so at the cost of its own existence. The second that bomb bay opens, the "invisible" F-35 has the RCS of a Strike Eagle which means that it would get an E-37M up its butt. The Russians also have IR-guided LAAMs which would easily spot the P&W F135's gigantic exhaust plume. There is no "clean win" scenario for the F-35 and, considering the huge difference in manufacturing cost, Russia would happily trade one Su-35 for every F-35 downed because that's a financial victory for them. I have no belief that it costs more to build ANY Sukhoi than it costs to build any variant of the F-35.

Float like a butterfly sting like a bee, a man can’t touch what a man can’t see… stealth superior 💯

@poiu17472

2 жыл бұрын

So the man create the net that stop the mosquito which flies in the black night... or drigt the standing water.

@fork9001

Жыл бұрын

Of course a modern 21st century lockheed jet is better than an old soviet late 80s fighter. Except maneuverability, Su-35 was designed to be supermaneuverable unlike the F-35.

@Helperbot-2000

Жыл бұрын

@@fork9001 yeah and that isnt even a better - worse scenario since the f35 is designed to kill its opponent long before it ever come into visual range

@fork9001

Жыл бұрын

@@Helperbot-2000 Pretty sure Su-35 has BVRAAM options too, but it’s inferior to the F-35.

@TheRealBillBob

3 күн бұрын

That's probably true when you are always fighting militants, but when you are fighting a foe with modern weapons, that superiority is eroded. Radars, stingers and Patriots have kept Russia from Air Supremacy, but not Ukraine's jets.

If you combine these two warplanes you have an even more effective warplane: The FU 35. ( eff you )

This aged like milk

You forget one important thing, as soon as F-35 turns on radar it becomes visible from 250+ miles away for Su-35... Stealth is good for silently running away or passing by without engagement... In 1vs1 scenario if F-35 wants to invisible it has to be blind aswell.

@ogc9649

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not how it works buddy

@specforged5651

3 жыл бұрын

OG C...Haha, exactly.

@arturasm.5096

3 жыл бұрын

Irbis-E can detect not only reflections of its own electromagnetic radiation, but other sources like APG-81 used in F-35 as well. And yes, I know how it works.

@kylet2193

3 жыл бұрын

True if you are emitting a radar signal you will be tracked by enemy radar. If your radar is off you are stealth but also blind.

@kylet2193

3 жыл бұрын

Not saying the su 35 would win though

The Sukhoi is dancing in the air, amazing

@googlgfacef218

3 жыл бұрын

its called the cyka ballet

@stevegardnermax

3 жыл бұрын

Stunning Russian maneuverability, the faster and better armed SU-35 is an amazing adversary. I'm sure both airplanes have some secret tricks up their sleeves too.

@KjetilBalstad

3 жыл бұрын

That dancing equals loss of power, and is mostly useless outside airshows...

@nicolascage1261

2 жыл бұрын

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Well, after seeing Russian military in action, my money is on the F35.

@kisstamas7760

2 жыл бұрын

:) You lost your money. Haven't you think, why the NATO hasn't attacked russia yet? Because the NATO weapons are on the 1980's level. They didn't do any developments, because they are bombing only civilians, who can't shot back. The F-35 is the most expensive and most unreliable plane of the history. Its a flying coffin, nobody wants to buy it just the vassals of the NATO.

@Dontbelieve.thehype

2 жыл бұрын

In action 🤔 you in Ukraine? Or drooling up what MSM says is happening.

@rblxmach

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dontbelieve.thehype dude a su35 got destroyed by a random rocket from a ukranian soldier 😂😂

@Dontbelieve.thehype

2 жыл бұрын

@@rblxmach dude a f35 crashed into a carrier it was landing on not long ago and fell off the edge into the ocean.

@rblxmach

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dontbelieve.thehype true

SU 35s are referred to by US pilots as "targets of opportunity " The Russians didn't think things over well when they built this jet. Spare parts are built in Ukraine 🇺🇦

@kinwhakklkin7590

2 жыл бұрын

Also after over mont of fighting in UA we know another thing. If we want to know how many SU 35s can be destroyed by one US F35 we just need to count the air-air rockets of F35 🤣

@myyoutubename152

2 жыл бұрын

@CtrlAltDelicious69 SU35 pilots get far fewer (half) the hours of training compared to F35 pilots.

@mikewalsh1402

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious 😂🤣

@mikewalsh1402

2 жыл бұрын

@CtrlAltDelicious69 Stealth versus non stealth, I know who wins!

@bmx7596

2 жыл бұрын

And now after seeing the Ukraine war the biggest problem with the Russian jet is a Russian is flying it.

Well, according to the intel that has come out about Russian pilots only getting 8 hours of flight time every month it doesn’t matter which jet is superior. U.S. pilot training is significantly better. Game over.

@trustynomad3116

2 жыл бұрын

@The Love Bug how many Russian jets got shot down by mpads…FUCKING MPADS. REGULAR ASS INFANTRY SHOOTING DOWN FUCKING FIGHTER JETS.

@pulsatingsausageboy2076

2 жыл бұрын

@The Love Bug It’s amazing how many clueless assholes like yourself are lurking around on KZread.

@pulsatingsausageboy2076

2 жыл бұрын

@The Love Bug Probably somewhere waiting for you to give him another head job. 🤣

@Phrancis5

2 жыл бұрын

They had a 10-1 advantage in numbers and newer equipment, yet they can't even establish air superiority over Ukraine. The whole Russian army is plagued by incompetence, poor planning and leadership, stuck with the mentality of WW2 tactics. They should've easily taken the country and it calls into question all the years of media saying they're still a potent military. Just like old Soviet days, they just lie and brag about their capabilities. It's not like they care about shooting civilians or sustaining heavy losses, since their propaganda machine will cover it up.

@mikeymcmikeface5599

2 жыл бұрын

Good thing the pilots of ny country are trained in USA.

It seems that one thing is never made clear. In the early days of F-35 videos when they were still testing, I saw the F-35 get followed by a drone from behind and the F-35 was able to shoot it down without facing the target. The directed aperture system enables the aircraft to target in all directions while flying in any other, so the F-35 doesn't need to maneuver.

@crankthetank3581

3 жыл бұрын

The su-35 can do the same with its look and shoot capability, basically all the pilot needs to do is look in the general direction of its target and bam you have a lock on to it

@johncostello3174

2 жыл бұрын

The winner is usually the one who sees his opponent first. With the superior stealth and ability to fire missiles in any direction the advantage is with the F-35

@verbal_DK

2 жыл бұрын

@@crankthetank3581 the only thing Russian pilots have to do is perform physically impossible thing - to look right behind them!... not to mention the targets out of their visual reach... The Russians are simply outdated and outnumbered. they are far behind Western civilization and technology. their finances are too weak to keep up with us. the only thing i give them is that they have good air defense systems (at least on paper) but now we are talking fighter jets.

@D3nz13

2 жыл бұрын

@@verbal_DK Yup, they are so behind western civilization. That's good for them, at least they're not creating 100 new genders, BLM shit and other crap that's destroying Europe right now, hah.

@sontung4552

2 жыл бұрын

@@D3nz13 ah yes, that's what a loser always say after losing a debate. When you lose a debate, you start to talk about genders... to attack your opponent. You are the person who change your ground while losing to opponent.

F15 or F18 would probably be a better match. But based on the surgent state of the Russian military a static display Phantom would probably be too much for the SU35 to handle.

@cicajmigogoogle

6 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣Wet ussa dreams😈😈😈

@TheRealBillBob

3 күн бұрын

F15/F18 would be destroyed before they ever saw the Su-35 on radar. lol

If we believe the unverified hover and invisibility hype of the F35 maybe it's responsible for the wave of ufo sightings in America 😂

This comment section basically is a bunch of 5 yr olds arguing about whos dad is stronger... And im very annoyed by these people, please just grow up

@wadopotato33

3 жыл бұрын

This is a discussion. No one gives two shits if you are annoyed. That is a sign that you aren't grown up.

@cesaralvarez7112

3 жыл бұрын

@Wade French you just pulled the I know you are but what am I card. A mountain isn't wrong lol. These comments are literally about who's daddy is stronger. Like grow up get a job man up and do things for yourself. Just a life lesson that you maybe never learned. Most of you people don't even study political science and have no idea what you are talking about. All your info comes from video games and movies. You clearly know nothing of history or warfare

@donaldstein3851

3 жыл бұрын

If you are actualy annoyed then you must also classify yourself as a five year old. Now be quiet and go stand in the corner!

@kealahau6727

3 жыл бұрын

If you are annoyed , why do you go read the section comment ?

@wadopotato33

3 жыл бұрын

@@cesaralvarez7112 I know you are but what am I card? A mountain isn't wrong? What is the sweet fuck are you talking about? People who get annoyed because someone disagrees with them are not adults. If a persons ego is so easily offended they should simply stay out of discussions. Pretty simple. Somehow I think you read a little more into this or something was lost in translation.

There is wrong caption of the jets at the start of the video. Please read the jets names interchangeably. Apologies for the inconvenience caused.

@siamerzuah1591

3 жыл бұрын

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@bretlesh3094

3 жыл бұрын

It

@dank_obama6938

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamloxley1222 chill

@dank_obama6938

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamloxley1222 what are you? 10? Grow up

@dank_obama6938

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamloxley1222 ok boomer

Cant shoot down if you cant see it. How are the Su's working vs Javs?

The F-22 is the opponent any Russian jet will face in a dogfight, that's its role in the air fleet, the F-35 is a sniper, sets up for a shot, takes out its assigned targets and leaves the area.

@voodooo3971

3 жыл бұрын

we saw how your f22 escaped from su35 on the sky of Syria

@tremedar

3 жыл бұрын

@@voodooo3971 Yeah, they should have stayed and fought and started a full scale nuclear war. Fucking moron.

@Barefoot433

3 жыл бұрын

@@voodooo3971 Like you think we wanted them to know we were there at that moment and get into a dogfight? I’m sure you’re an advanced straying of the highest order.

@voodooo3971

3 жыл бұрын

tremedar that’s what I’m talking about you only hero against weak countries like Iraq Libya Syria Yugoslavia Vietnam but when you face Russia you squeeze you tail under your ...

@nonav5763

3 жыл бұрын

The real truth is that All countries are always chasing the yanks and the brits in all forms. Always copying, always trying

The F35, 5 Gen. aircraft should be compared to the SU57 5 Gen. not the SU35 4++ Generation.

@puppetmasternostringsonme8293

3 жыл бұрын

Su35 is enough

@DeadSkyWT

3 жыл бұрын

@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 Not at all

@puppetmasternostringsonme8293

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeadSkyWT ask your Generals

@DeadSkyWT

3 жыл бұрын

@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 My generals? I am not from America, lol. And, the SU-35 can't do much against the F-35.

@DeadSkyWT

3 жыл бұрын

@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 They can put up a fight though

Coming up " How I shot down the F 35," exclusive interview with the Red Baron...

Forgot to add "All the data is approximate, since the Ministries of Defense of both countries sent us to fuck with such questions" 🤣

Well, these birds can still face each other without devastating WW3. Two other countries which bought the planes from US and Russia can clash in some local war... But the outcome would much depend on the well prepared pilots too...

@kamov52510

2 жыл бұрын

Don't they get Export Versions wich are downgraded?

@gabe.ch5555

2 жыл бұрын

I have two names in mind, Maverick or rather Ice Man ???

@luisgalindo4530

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 100%. It all depends on the experience and expertise of the pilots. Obviously,both planes are extremely dangerous but the one with the best pilot,would end up being the best plane.

Russian is not even stelth at all... No need to compare, the F-35 would win easily, no matter what the Russian plane can do, if you can't see you are dead!

@CarlosOliveira-iu4jw

2 жыл бұрын

go play some more battlefield...

@wurzelbert84wucher5

2 жыл бұрын

The "stealth" is hardly working in reality.

For what Russia has shown in the war against Ukraine, it leaves a question open about the quality of the training of the pilots. Now, these two planes are of different kind. The F35 has a clear advantage, since it can “see” the SU-35 much earlier than this one can spot - if ever - the F35.

@tokugawapost.9142

2 жыл бұрын

The f35 does not work

@kisstamas7760

2 жыл бұрын

The F-35 has a lot of problems, it is totally unreliable. The engine tends to be overheating and if this occurs, the computer reduces the power of the engines which is not a good thing in a combat - or any - situation. A lot of F-35 just felt down because this. A SU-35 is a rock solid construction, it works in very extreme conditions and requires very few maintenance against the F-35 which costs about twice and requires a constant maintenance.

@leedex

2 жыл бұрын

@@kisstamas7760 How do you know the SU35, is rock solid when Russia can’t effort to mass produce them. Russia is about “we have the best”, but they can’t prove it. It’s Russian propaganda to boost their weak economy with arms export and intermediate their “enemies”. Look at their military in Ukraine 😂

@alvisdeneldgamle

2 жыл бұрын

@@tokugawapost.9142 rus pilots do not fly🤣🤣🤣

@kisstamas7760

2 жыл бұрын

The F-35 has a serious problem. When the engine is on full thrust its tend to be overheating. In this case the computer reduces the power of the engines, so the F-35 falls like a rock in most of the cases (just google it). The SU-35 works in very rough conditions, it doesn't require a continious maintenance and it costs half of the F-35. The US military industry is about money, the russian military industry is about protecting their homeland. Thats a difference.

Which would win? In a beauty contest, SU35 hands down, it just looks so elegant. Guess that's sorted, didn't even have to watch the video 😎

I’ve heard that when faced with more maneuverable opponents, the f-35 pilots will make a run for it and try to exit the fight. One of the unique capabilities of the F35 is being able to target airplanes in any orientation, even behind it, so maneuverability becomes less relevant if you don’t have to point your nose at an opponent to fire. As the plane exits the fight, the pilots can target the opponents and have the missiles do the maneuvering rather than the aircraft.

@angryhedgehog4266

2 жыл бұрын

Ngl, I call BS

@user-gh5iz4mb2y

2 жыл бұрын

гладко было на бумаге, но забыли про овраги! а по ним ходить....

@Deathl2ow

2 жыл бұрын

@@angryhedgehog4266 f35 isn't a dog fighter, it's a air superiority aircraft. The pilots helmet allows for the entire aircraft to be "see-through" and the plan relies on it's payload to do the dirty work

@user-yy8wm3le9z

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-gh5iz4mb2y овраги это что? Разгильдяйство? Безответственность? Жестокость?…

@tocobb7747

2 жыл бұрын

where from ??? the hanger ?? awaiting parts as it cant fly

Modern war now is basically who can see the other guy first. Guys, by see each other first I meant who's radar can see the other first, not actually see each other with there eyes. In modern warfare who ever fires of the first missile is more likely to win because unless you are facing off against a very well trained, and very skilled pilot. The person that fires a missile first, even if it misses, puts the enemy into a defensive stance against your attacks.

@Bojan8309

3 жыл бұрын

How can you see a plane 100 km away from you..? with your eyes?

@hawker4014

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bojan8309 sensors you absolute weapon

@tahncavanagh4405

3 жыл бұрын

More like which radar see the other plane first

@wisam111

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what they said when they invented air to air missiles how wrong were they

@dena5498

3 жыл бұрын

Su35 has the smart rocket. The fight to be finished before this is started. I think it's not secret information.

9:35 Stealth or maneuverability? Stealth is always going to better to have. What good is maneuverability if you can't even get close enough to dogfight? This is almost like asking: "which is better for crossing the ocean a car or an air plane?"

No contest, not only is the plane better the planning and support structure behind it are second to none

The maneuverability is limited by the human body which can only handle about 9 Gs, both planes are limited by the pilots.

@sarahbrown5073

2 жыл бұрын

True. American military pilots seem to be having a lot of health problems, lately. Russian pilots didn't take an mRNA injection.

@Moose_Knuckles

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahbrown5073 hahahaha did you see the tubby guy the ukrainian's shot down? He was a vet of multiple wars too.

@person8203

2 жыл бұрын

The F35 has 360 degree targeting and firing. That alone means the pilot doesn't need to be pulling high G maneuvers. It can fire and let the missile do the maneuvering. SU35 wouldn't stand a chance.

@Metoo3232-pu2wc

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahbrown5073 LOL You anti vaxxers are too much. I got all 3 shots. I ran a half marathon last week and beat my pre vaccination best time.

@floydandrews3054

2 жыл бұрын

@@bail10k31 ridiculous

7:37 I thought it was a pilot's face when he was worried about his favorite aircraft in competition xd

@Johnny-xi4ti

3 жыл бұрын

In ur dreamz

@RobertJackson-lm8wi

3 жыл бұрын

I know this doesn't retain the airplanes I remember racingdirt bikes and roll 1980s CR60 two-cycle engine was whipping the 1990s to cycle 250. a lot of it's in the driver pilot did anything racing drag or NASCAR

@lt6787

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Jackson ช

I think it also depends on the pilot, strategy, maintenance, equipment

Comes down to technology. Russian planes are using Garmin satnavs duct taped to their consuls.

I recently watched a video about Baron Manfred von Richthofen, the top scoring WWI fighter ace. Most of his kills were not in dogfights, nor was that his preferred method of killing. Most were attacking unsuspecting targets. This is the philosophy of the F35. And, by the way, the price of the SU35 and the F35A are not very different. Then there’s the question of numbers. There are a whole lot more F35’s than SU35’s and this will continue to be true; in fact, the balance is likely to tilt more. From what I know of Russian numbers, it will take Russia until 2027 to have enough SU35’s and Su57’s combined to roughly equal American F22 inventory., which is to say a little under 200 fighters. This completely ignores F35 inventory which is already over double that. If SU35’s face F35’s it will not be at a 1:1 ratio. Nor will it even have to be greater than 1:1 in stealth fighters because of American airborne data sharing as an F35’s data can provide firing coordinates for F15’s and F16’s beyond Russian radar range.

@vermilion7777

2 жыл бұрын

This is the philosophy of all modern jets. Close combat is quite obsolete with modern medium-long range missiles. It's more elecronic warfare than anything.

@jozseffarkas1767

2 жыл бұрын

@Kicabran Ticta one big kaboom ,and noone flying after that

@guaporeturns9472

2 жыл бұрын

All leading aces practiced this way of fighting

@marvinmarquez5395

2 жыл бұрын

@Hendrix Cody against who? afghanistan? iraq?

@panan7777

2 жыл бұрын

Current F35 production rate is one plane every two work days. There is not even a theoretical chance the russia can match this. See dear putin, PhotShop weapons don't win real wars; good for fans, but nothing else. For those unfamiliar with Ukraine: the ground is thawing and huge convoy is limited ONLY to paved roads. Blow first few vehicles and everything stands still. Sitting ducks for Ukrainians. I found that they have flooded the fields as well. Running out of fuel and even food. By far the worst part is exposing to the world just how hugely incompetent they are.

0:19 i was like wtf when did this got developed.

@ahmadariqdarwish2042

3 жыл бұрын

At 90s

Wow the su-35 is something of a beauty and a beast at the same time

The Ukrainian AF is knocking them out of the sky with older Migs & 1980’s US made stinger anti aircraft missiles.

@jesss3725

2 жыл бұрын

Even Russia is shooting down their own planes. 😎 Glory to Ukraine!

@sticksjke

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i heard ghost of kiev has shot down over 50 planes.

The two aircrafts have nothing in common but the number. They are totally diffrent fields. F35 A multirole fight/attack aircraft, SU35 a swing role air superiority

@davelowesky8054

2 жыл бұрын

And Russia doesn’t have enough su35s to keep up. And it doesn’t have enough spare parts to keep them in the air in a war with the USA. They would have to rely on China to make parts at a relatively high rate. But we would bomb those plants We see it now with them in Ukraine.

@matsv201

2 жыл бұрын

@@davelowesky8054 Well .. Russia don´t have enough of anything. Specially not pilot. They having 1000 fighters sounds very impressive... Until you realize that they really just have 200-300 pilots with sufficient hours

@1rstTry

2 жыл бұрын

“We thought it would be interesting to compare…” this is a thought exercise and the narrator said that.

@matsv201

2 жыл бұрын

@@1rstTry you can compare a hatchback to a barge if you wanto.. but waht would you get out of it

@bluerisk

2 жыл бұрын

And the US won't send such aircraft on 1:1 dogfight missions. They will have a better intel and take care that they have a numerical superiority alone in escort fighters. Intel, communication and coordination are the great assets of the US military. Even the Western Europeans could trash this Russian air force. There are a lot of jokes about how few jets are actually airworthy, but therefore these numbers are correct and can be buckled up if needed. Actually, the press is often over exaggerating these numbers.

If a Ukrainian Mig29 can mop the floor against the SU-35 then the SU-35 doesn’t have a chance against a F35.

@NvrSumr15

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Shulcyo

2 жыл бұрын

In which fairy tale did this happen?

@bryjb10

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shulcyo has your government blacked out all your media and told you lies?

@bryjb10

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shulcyo considering it’s been a week and Russia still doesn’t have air dominance against a small force like Ukraine just shoes Russias technology and skills were hyped.

@mrbasfed1948

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on pilot. A plane can do shit by itself. P.S. It's like a kindergarten talk - my dad will bring a tank to fight and my dad will bring an atomic bomb.

"Russia is no less competent in terms of modern warfare technology." Aged like milk...

@f4ust85

2 жыл бұрын

These people should stop reading pamphlets and PR translated by Sputnik News.

Come on man. The f35 would get the heavyweight title while the other would get a partipation award.

They both have their strengths and their weaknesses. I would love to fly a MIG though I'm not going to lie

@randomentertainingvideos3545

2 жыл бұрын

MIGs? The same one with over 40 crash counts, I guess your a daredevil type, not going to argue, Stay safe

Just because they have 35 in there name doesn't mean that they are for same class

@joedoc6124

3 жыл бұрын

was just thinking this lmao, completely different generations

@glandhound

3 жыл бұрын

Su-35 had it's first flight in 1988.

In most gunfights in Wild West movies, it's the quickest draw that wins. In this scenario, therefore, F35 wins. Another way to look at it: if you're ambushed in a Western movie, you're probably a goner. In this scenario, therefore, F35 wins again.

F35. The Sukhoi's wheel would probably fall off on the runway.

"Who would win?" AN/APG-81 Beyond Visual Range capabilities: *"Am I a joke to you?"*

@trewtewe1778

2 жыл бұрын

yes you are 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@rockandrollismylife

2 жыл бұрын

AIM-120 can do the job.

F35 was actually able to fly in formation undetected by the SU35 if that says anything.

@kdaltex

2 жыл бұрын

Story!

@gcardoso

2 жыл бұрын

F35 falls from sky by themselves... no guns fired. xD

@ListlessSpectre

2 жыл бұрын

@@gcardoso So I've heard....sheesh.

@callsingCLUELESS

2 жыл бұрын

@@gcardoso nahh you call that stupid pilots not the planes fault

@chiguinson

2 жыл бұрын

@@gcardoso woww.....cristopher Columbus you just discovered that? ...go tell the Americans so they wont spend trillions of dollars on F35s. You are a genius!

I've not read all of the comments but an aircraft does not fly itself. A little bit of input from a pilot with top class training just might be the answer to a 'dog fight' kill!

Scrap em all and build bbq’s

@jozefhorvat3625

Ай бұрын

👌👌👌👍👍👍

First shot is a huge advantage and that should always go to the F35 due to its stealth. The SU35 manoeuvrability only becomes critical in a close, visual encounter, which should not occur if the first-shot missile does its job in a 1 on 1 engagement. If it does become a fight the visual envelope then it will come down to pilot tactics. Therefore, missile quality on the F35 and the Defensive Aids of the SU35 are key to the fight.

@GlitchersCO

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah an F-35 equipped with a Python-5 fox-2 would be one hell of dog fight to for any opp

@damianketcham

2 жыл бұрын

The F-35 would never engage visually with the Sukhoi. They should be able to identify the type of aircraft they are targeting. They possibly might after gaining a significant numerical superiority.

@lexwaldez

2 жыл бұрын

And training. Russia has basically zero combat training available. If you look at what they get it's almost criminal. It actually probably is criminal as the generals are no doubt selling aviation fuel and pocketing the money.

@alexdarcydestsimon3767

Жыл бұрын

@@damianketcham yeah, flight Time available on the F35 is very low compared to any other aircraft... So the USA should triple their F35 aircraft number. They might just do that ... And close hospital and schools and roads to be able to do that. Thanks god, it seems US AirForce and US Navy are smarter than that because they - cancelled their F35 orders and are buying F16 F15 and F18 instead of F35. - push hard on the throttle to have a 6 gen fighter asap. Only the Russian F35 is worth keeping, i mean the US Marine VTOL F35 which VTOL system is originaly russian designed. It is worth keeping this version as it is far less complex than the Harrier. Pity that there is the US software part.

@Moskou1

Жыл бұрын

The Am 120 hasn't got as much range as the r77/r37 . + The maneuvers the su 35 can pull will play a roll in dogeing missles..

What happened to the time tested old saying: "Mine is bigger than yours!"?! 😁

@TheRealBillBob

3 күн бұрын

That only applies to bombs.

@v.german11b

3 күн бұрын

@@TheRealBillBob You are a "Bob"... 😝

@TheRealBillBob

3 күн бұрын

@@v.german11b Uh okay. I guess that's funny in your own mind.

@v.german11b

3 күн бұрын

@@TheRealBillBob Look who's talkin'! You are the "joker on steroids" 😝

"Genral Kaperski! USA has developed F35! It has one big burny thing!" - We develop own version. We name SU35 and give two burny things!

My theory is that the F35 can fly on it's own remotely controlled like a drone. I think this because the articles that I read where the pilot passes out the F35 never crashes.

@alexdarcydestsimon3767

Жыл бұрын

@Tim Roll Fantazy. The F35 crashed 5 Times in less than a year. Once because the software is so bad it sometimes doesn't allow go arounds. Once because the undercarriage is software actuated and did not extend... All Korean F35 are grounded for software problems. The first crash i mentionnned partly occurred because the pilot was not at his best, lacking oxygen from the obogs.

@Carson_Van_McUber

Жыл бұрын

@@alexdarcydestsimon3767 Well they never mentioned any crashes, which is not a surprise. So I was going off that. Thanks for info.

A couple of SU-35s would probably have a hard dealing with a couple of F-15s. F35s and F22s would wipe them out. Maybe the S-500 would save them... but those would most likely already be neutralized before moving in F22s or F35s. The Russians do know how to make a good looking plane though.

@elmazielmazi6203

2 жыл бұрын

Nahh the Su 35 is designed for air superiority , while the f35 multirole. Ofcourse the Su 35 would win

@herobo123456

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmazielmazi6203 the su-35 is outdated like most russian equipment compared to the west

@BlatentlyFakeName

2 жыл бұрын

Russian jets are proving to be all show in Ukraine. They can't even get air superiority and seem to be very vulnerable to the NATO handheld AA weapons.

@gianfrancobox

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmazielmazi6203 when the SU 35 realizes that it has been hooked by an F35, it will have already been shot down. the power and maneuverability of a SU35 may be superior, but the technology of the F35 puts it in a better position even in dogfight

@elmazielmazi6203

2 жыл бұрын

@@gianfrancobox American propaganda for sure!!!

Answer: ukrainian tractor would kick both of their asses.

@captainalex157

2 жыл бұрын

ukrainian tractor companies are gonna be the big winner from this war. Invest now!

@trutacgear

2 жыл бұрын

Haha true ..

@trutacgear

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainalex157 There is no war at all ..This is a fucking propaganda like covid horse shit ... Everything is for the fucking mind control and money ...Don't you see those images are from old wars back in the 90s and video game simulators..

I feel like an f22 would be a better matchup since it's a designated dogfighter jet, compared to the multirole f35

@topaz2821

Жыл бұрын

more likely the su57 would be a better match up against the f22 seen as they are both 5th gen jets

@mikoi7472

Жыл бұрын

Air superiority fighters do not mean dog fighting. Dog fighting would never happen with modern jets.

if you can detect the F35 early, you have a chance. I think the Russians are working on that with the S400 and S500 air defense radar.

This is one of the coolest videos of military air machinery and favorite of all time comparison. Or two of my favs fighters.

Do you know about the l-265 "Khibiny-10M” Su35 electronic countermeasures aircraft complex? It is possible that the su-35 will be able to block the f-35 radar signal then you will have to use melee missiles where the su-35 has more advantages. In fact, we won't know who will have the advantage in battle until these fighters meet on the battlefield.

@BF3-4

3 жыл бұрын

it is better that this does not happen..)) greetings from Russia bro

@mikethomas4423

2 жыл бұрын

@Eclipse538 electronic countermeasures are completely designed to make heat signatures dissappear ..they scramble the enemies target locking capability and can put out enough radio static to completely nullify any amram or sidewinder with lock capabilities. It's precisely what electronic countermeasures where designed to do .

@compresswealthdivideeconom3757

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of field, grassy, mountainous, ....?

@theostragonidis7548

2 жыл бұрын

@Eclipse538 ​ Sandwitches ARENT MADE TO MAKE YOU LESS HUNGRY

@mikethomas4423

2 жыл бұрын

@Eclipse538 lol the cheek of Americans to ridicule " cave people" ...took you eight years ...billions of dollars and how many dead to capture osama bin Laden ?🤣??? Air superiority...you can't even hold down one airport in Kabul .

In reality, this is a missile lock contest. If you are visible to the missile lock, you are dead meat, if you are not, you live. Dog fighting is a bit outmoded.

what is the maintenance time between 2 rounds ?

They are really different planes, designed for different types of missions. They are not comparable. The F35’s primary designed is not like the F15’s or F22’s which are a true dog fight , air-to-air fighter planes. The more comparable plane to compare would be the F22.

@slimdunkin117

2 жыл бұрын

Su35 will outperform all of them in air to air combat.

@damianketcham

2 жыл бұрын

@@slimdunkin117 In what envelope? BVR? Not a chance. The Su-35 would probably not even make the merge. It would be forced into defensive maneuvers like notching a locked missile which would put it at more of a disadvantage. The Irbis-E is a great radar but it’s maximum deflection angle is 120 degrees. It would never be able to get a missile off.

@SteveFrench_420

2 жыл бұрын

@@slimdunkin117 you're out of your mind. The F-22 can't be touched when it comes to air to air combat. That's what it was designed to do. It's a stealth fighter.

@SteveFrench_420

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure. The Su-35 and the F-35 are both multi role aircraft. The F22s role is stealth fighter. A good comparison out of Russia to the F-22 would be the Su-57.

@bomccoy5236

2 жыл бұрын

@@slimdunkin117 Russia is a paper tiger. They will be obliterated just like your pathetic Russian troops in Ukraine.

I know it would never stack up against today's aircraft but my all time favorite will always be the F4 Phantom. It was like the Charger of the 60's and into the 70's. The video was good, not great, and I learned a good deal more about these birds than I knew before.

@weenydogdog1040

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is one of mt favorites wasn't it in the veitnam wars as an American bomber

@weenydogdog1040

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is one of mt favorites wasn't it in the veitnam wars as an American bomber

@virginccyy7645

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, This guy doesn't know the technical aspects of F35, its EW package being the m OJ st advanced in the world and how its tied to stealth therefore requiring a tenth of the power of its radar to hide F35 and other jets, its ability to send virus signals into enemy Sam's systems. Its das system!!

@peterrepka4080

2 жыл бұрын

Vaše srački, voči Ruským nemajú šancu. Preberte sa už konečne. Vy USA agresori.

@SandsMarina

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterrepka4080 Getting personel won't help. Discussionhas to be objective and technical, not political.

The F-15 was supposed to be a BVR missile fighter, but achieved its first and most important victories in close with its 20 mm Gatling gun.

@scott.c9587

2 жыл бұрын

What does the F-15 have to do with the F-35 vs SU-35?

@genma986

2 жыл бұрын

@@scott.c9587 F-35 is a flying turkey not very fast not very agile.

@fissavids8767

2 жыл бұрын

@@genma986 it doesn't matter how agile it is when it is invisible to radar and shoots targets from miles away. dog fighting is a thing of the past

@universalenergy2311

2 жыл бұрын

@@fissavids8767 Dog fights aren’t dead as long as Tom Cruise is alive! Lol

@AlacrityTW

2 жыл бұрын

@@fissavids8767 Depends, on the situation. Stealth is not perfect invisibility to radar and still detectable with IRST sensors which SU-35 have. 1 v 1 in neutral territory, of course F-35 has a massive advantage but battles are not fought mano e mano... F35 is like a navy seal used for infiltration missions but if detected, they can be easily isolated and swarmed.

I would think the level of training and competency of the pilots would have some to do with the outcome.

@stelmarsky6778

2 жыл бұрын

There's an understatement for you!!

no doubt. I'd bet on a SU 35 for sure. F35 is good based only on pure theoretical situations and many complained about different fails. SU35 can do maneuvers enemies can't even guess.

From what has surfaced about how much air time Russian pilots get due to misallocation of funds, probably a Sopwith Camel would have a decent shot against an SU-35.

@BlatentlyFakeName

2 жыл бұрын

A Ukrainian farmer with a 1990s stinger.

@blankeny

2 жыл бұрын

I'd pay to see that! LOL...

The SU35 looks better, but the F35 is more advance and has better sensors, meaning it would pick up the Su35 first. So the F35 would win /thread

@panan7777

2 жыл бұрын

Organizing beauty contest?

@dadthelad

2 жыл бұрын

The look of the F35 has definitely grown on me. It's like any new fashion, or car style, it looks weird at first, but then it grows on you, everyone copies, and the older style suddenly looks dated. So now I find any fighter that doesn't have the stealth look, just looks dated.

@panan7777

2 жыл бұрын

Form follows the function.

@jade7631

2 жыл бұрын

Uh it has bad radars but good stealth most american planes have a problem with radars but there stealth is incredible

@ramirexbruv6292

2 жыл бұрын

@@jade7631 You're entirely wrong at this point ok now so for example in my logic and calculations u would see all over in the internet that the An/apg 81 has a km of 150km can I tell u the reason why? It is because of LPI or the US just don't want reveal its true capabilities LPI is a low probability of intercept radar it is a radar employing meassures to avoid being detected by Passive radar detection equipement such as RWR radar warning recievers when some detects u by radar u will get a warning and electronic support recievers and now Time to get into this now so PD means tracking possible at a range of 55 to 65 percent detection range. Now cued search small search. Box can easily extend the range to 50 percent because of much longer dwell times being used meaning how much the radar focuses on the object. That means 345km range against 3m2 rcs and 454km in those criteria and also the su 35 and rcs of 1m2 I think sof yes the apg 77v1 the upgraded variant uses the same GaaS modules that is on the apg 81 and the An apg 77v1 has a detection range of 400km for 1m2 target and that means An Apg 81 that means 400km for 1m2 target that is the rcs of the su35 in think so yes the f35 will just far away flank it after it detects it and use other kind of tactics The US just has better sensors avionics and radar and better stealth capabilities the rcs of the su 57 is 1m2 and it has the rcs of a clean f18 superhornet

As a 3rd Generation of Lockheed Team members, we still stand by the Motto: Look to Lockheed for Leadership!

The su35 won’t see the f35 coming till it’s too late

So basically f 35 vs Su 35 is like a sniper rifle vs an ak 47. A sniper stays hidden and kills the target from far away. An ak 47 sprays bullets all over the place in close to medium range to completely decimate the enemy. Which one wins depends on the scenario.

@Sir_Richard_Stewart

2 жыл бұрын

But. STH Korean Soldiers are taught to snipe up to 300 m with an ak47 in single shot. And can hit a cigarette at 250 m. It's Training and practice. In all things.

Which would win lol? Um it all comes down to the pilot 👍

@chasetoyama8184

2 жыл бұрын

Not really, the F-35 is stealth so if they engaged in BVR combat, the F-35 would win. In WVR combat, I’d say they’re be pretty evenly matched, but I don’t know their specs, so don’t quote me on that.

@forbalkanufo907

2 жыл бұрын

@@chasetoyama8184 f 117 was stealth too, and Serbians shut it down.(1999)

@negodnik9226

2 жыл бұрын

@@forbalkanufo907 they just didn't know it was invisible

@forbalkanufo907

2 жыл бұрын

@@negodnik9226 haha yea...

@williamanderson2326

2 жыл бұрын

@@forbalkanufo907 Should we compare that to the very long history of NATO fighters dominating Russian built counterparts? Also the f 117 incident isn't even comparable to this discussion.

Comparing the SU-35 to the F-35 is like comparing the battlefield effectiveness of black powder muskets to repeating rifles, horse cavalry with tanks, sailing ships to ironclads, or a 1972 Corvette to a 2022 model. There is simply no comparison. The more advanced generation completely eclipses the older one. Every wargame that has pitted 5th gen stealth fighters against 4th gen fighters, with both allowed to use their best tactics, has resulted in a wipeout in favor of the stealth fighters. Only when the exercise intentionally takes away the stealth fighters’ stealthiness do the 4th gen planes have a chance. In a real war game the stealth planes knock out the nonstealth planes without ever being detected. The same thing would happen in a shooting war.

@blu3_enjoy

2 жыл бұрын

It's all cool until the "we didn't know it was supposed to be invisible" poster come out or f35 needs to take a maintenance break while sukhoi has hours on the clock

@grandduke2145

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, no love for the 72 vette, lol

Depends entirely upon the pilots.

Hard to say, both have their advantages and disadvantages. When it comes to a fight, the survivability aspect depends on how stealthy the plane is and at how far and fast you can eliminate the enemy without entering a dogfight and also if the Ground Radar pick up your Signal you also can be eliminated from the ground. So I would choose the F-35⚡

@steveiliev8912

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! That is in theory and in the arcade games! 😉 In real life dogfight is inevitable! In most of missions You can’t just bug out after You run out of long range weapons! If there is a massive major war between big players probably around 70% of the engagements are going to happen within visual range! Another think is with potent enemy long range engagements are not going to be that effective! Almost all long range kills are scored with third world countries against super outdated hardware, with pilots who had NO IDEA something was shooting at them ! Once You start defensive maneuvers, missiles don’t have much of a chance! Actually the real advantage of long range missiles is to force opponent to go defensive, and improve position for short range fight! And we are not even mentioning air defense factor in case of fighting over or near enemy territory ! Happy New Year! 🍻

@poopman3172

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but how close the su-35 comes to the same is outstanding considering the f-35 is only like a couple yrs old as to 10 yrs old

@masoncook4974

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveiliev8912 boi dog fights don’t happen anymore the last dog fight occurred in 1945💀

@steveiliev8912

2 жыл бұрын

@@masoncook4974 hi! Well that is because the last real war ended 1945! But what You Are saying is not true! There was plenty of dogfight in Korea and Vietnam war! Some people consider dogfight fight with guns only! No! Dogfight is fight within visual range! 🍻

@rbolton3865

2 жыл бұрын

@@poopman3172 I'm sure the production quality of the f-35 is far superior to the su-35 as well. Many countries do not like to buy Russian jets because of maintenance costs. American planes have some maintenance issues as well, but nowhere near Russian planes.

Oh, they both 35 OK now we know they work together in pretty much everything

OK this one isn't even close the F-35 steam rolls the Su-35 and it all comes down to radar capabilities. The F-35's radar and jamming capabilities are so advanced it can create dummy radar signatures so you don't know which one is the actual target. Here's an excerpt from the Aviation Geek Club on the Su-35 "Despite being marketed as 4++ gen, Su-35 has the least capable avionics suite among its competitors. It's the only major 4th gen. aircraft without an AESA radar or any form of Sensor Fusion.". This jet would have a hell of a time identifying and/or tracking an F-35. It would be easily jammed by any 5th gen. fighter.

F-35 💪💪

@chillipalmer3994

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