Sauber has committed cardinal sins in each of their decades in F1: 1. in 1990s they treated anyone not named Heinz-Harald or Karl as interchangeable fodder; 2. in 2000s they couldn't abandon their midfield mindset once they became competitive (still salty about 2008 🤬) 3. in 2010s they favored worthless pay drivers over actually talented drivers (just imagine Kobayashi and Hulkenberg pairing in 2013 or Wehrlein and Leclerc in 2018); 4. in 2020s they seem to completely lack any sort of passion and ambition and are just complacent. It's a shame, though. Sauber was always one of those teams that I wanted to have more success but they have always been their own greatest enemy.

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303

3 ай бұрын

Let's see how they do with Seidl's leadership now. Unless Bottas and Zhou seriously step the fuck up, I don't see either of them being retained for 2025, with how many great options are floating around. Sainz/Hülkenberg lineup for 2025?

@tjitse3916

3 ай бұрын

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 makes you wonder about Hulkenbergs contract, if he's signed on for '25 i hope it has an escape clause, but I also consider Haas stubborn enough to hold on. If the Hulk exits I see Magnussen staying on there despite always lacking to some extent. If Sainz doesn't join for '25 I see him stepping in at Merc.

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303

3 ай бұрын

@@tjitse3916 Sainz does not seem to be on Mercedes' radar. They want to either fast-track Antonelli into F1 or Alonso

@Slimmeyy

3 ай бұрын

@@tjitse3916 he hasn't signed any contracts for 2025 yet. There was word that he would continue at Haas, but both he and the team clarified that a joke was misunderstood and no contract has been signed.

@tjitse3916

3 ай бұрын

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 in that case I strongly hope for Alonso.

They did nasr dirty

@neverenoughgames72

3 ай бұрын

Nasr, Wehrlein, Van der Garde...

@akis_mikon00

3 ай бұрын

Indeed man... So bad treated :'(

@youlesie23

3 ай бұрын

Nasr got screwed over badly. Did his best carrying an awful team and saved them from going out of existence, then his main sponsor pulls out because the team was so poor and he gets dropped instead of Ericsson.

@Romit12

15 күн бұрын

He saved Sauber from collapsing. But got nothing in return

Excellent video. Nasr deserved better, glad he's doing well in sports cars.

I live right next to Hinwil. Everytime i go to Mcdonals I drive by the Sauber Factory. its great to see our small team getting some love from you

@NicolasChiribelo

3 ай бұрын

Are you Swiss born? A dream of mine is living in Switzerland someday.

As an italian i completely lost my faith in this team for how they handled Giovinazzi; I'm not one of those people who say that he absolutely deserved his seat, he did several costly mistakes when he should have performed. But I swear, I was always focusing on his race during GPs and you could not believe how manu times he got destroyed by terrible strategy (look for example at Monaco 2021, when they literally made him being overcutted) slow asf pitstop (3-5 seconds every 2 races). Look at Singapore 2019, Monza 2020, Mexico 2021. I think he's one of the most unnoticed "what if" of modern days F1 both for his and his team's fault.

@pietrozanacchi1853

3 ай бұрын

I could make the list of races where he got screwed by strategy even longer: Usa 2021, Portugal 2020, Ungary 2021; the Last One Is ilarious, they made him start with slicks (and making him start from the pitlane) then pitted him for wets, then pitted again for slicks. He could have literally fought for the win there by staying with slicks from the beginning. I also think he showed great pace at times, both in quali and races. He wasn't this bad on racecraft (many would Say he got destroyed by Kimi but he was faster in many occasions and not so far back in others). One big problem was that he usually remained stuck behind slower Cars for too many laps.

@cristiandumitrescu1744

3 ай бұрын

100%, I remember that in every race they screw Gio up. So much so that I started to think that they were sabotaging him on purpose because their choices were so bad that even a chimpanzee could have done better. We are used to laugh about Ferrari strategist but sauber ones were so bad...

I’m a simple man Peter Brook posts, I watch the video over and over. Be like Mayo

@Bale4Bond

3 ай бұрын

Couldn't Mayo come up with his own catchphrase?

Sauber will be missed.

@Dayne-Lua

3 ай бұрын

@evonne_o ranked these sauber f1 drivers from best to worst between Nico Hulkenberg, Esteban Gutierrez, Adrian Sutil, Felipe Nasr, Marcus Ericsson, Pascal Wehrlein, Charles Leclerc, Kimi Raikkonen, Antonio Giovinazzi, Valterri Bottas and Zhou Gaunyu?

@19megamustaine85

3 ай бұрын

No they wont be ,good riddance 😂 !

@orenji2385

3 ай бұрын

Sauber will still develop the chassis from 2026 onwards

Marko Asmer being mentioned makes this my favorite ever KZread video. EDIT: Asmer was still hired by BMW in 2009. According to Asmer and the Estonian press, he was not officially employed as the third driver but he still had a limited testing role

Frentzen got banned from tweeting by Musk for a few days. Absolute goat

@LeonardoAld

3 ай бұрын

That's why he's one of favorite drivers

@17Uhr23

3 ай бұрын

Source?

@Dimension2010

3 ай бұрын

What he done? Instantly remind me of his bad joke with Dennis.

Steiner cameo at 13:28

@thefuturecontrol

2 ай бұрын

I know right

Great video! Love the Aldas music too!

Was a great decision to get rid of Kaltenborn

Thank you for a wonderful video

You should try using gran turismo music in the background of these videos, loving the uploads!

Great video. Would love to see a similar video on Minardi.

@grunchlk

3 ай бұрын

Forza Minardi! 😊

@TheAlmin

3 ай бұрын

That would be awesome to see

Nice video maybe you could rank every Sauber car as next video

Are you going to do driver transfer history for teams that no longer exist?

Overall great vid, lovely to see some of those drivers that subsistuted here and there that I completely forgot, like Frentzen in 2002. Stats on testdrivers and/or driver academy bits over the last few years were also interesting.....together with showing how almost useless it is to be part of it. LIke 95% of people entering academy never end up on the grid.

Sauber, RedBull, Petronas and Ferrari engine. Uncanny car Sauber, uncanny car... 💀

Should anyone wish to know, Dexter Patterson now races in the BTCC.

Correction: Sauber doesn't need a license to promote a gambling company. The problem is that Stake doesn't have a swiss license and is therefore illegal there. That's why Sauber as a swiss team can't promote them. Sponsoring wouldn't be an issue at all. But who does sponsoring without getting ad revenue.

Do Team Brackley next (from Tyrell to Mercedes)

Didn't Sauber sign like 100 drivers for 2015 season

I do love this iconic team. Also I do feel Marcus Ericsson at his time at Sauber did better than Esteban Gutierrez, Adrian Sutil, Antonio Giovinazzi and Zhou Guanyu.

@neverenoughgames72

3 ай бұрын

Better than Sutil and Zhou? Ericsson got massacred by Wehrlein. Anx the 2nd half of 2017 was very dodgy regarding his sponsers and team's interest. Nasr also was quicker. Weird take tbh.

@Dayne-Lua

3 ай бұрын

​@@neverenoughgames72 oh if you encountered with Will F1 Gaming and he saw you saying Zhou is better than Ericsson he will make rant comment at you for dear life and I will not like it if I was in your position.

@neverenoughgames72

3 ай бұрын

@@Dayne-Lua Sure

@LeonardoAld

3 ай бұрын

​@@Dayne-Lua There is no way in hell you just compared Zhou to Ericsson. Zhou is on pair with Bottas at times, and can get decent results. Ericsson was plain shit. He got trashed by Nasr, who we never saw compared to someone else, and then by Wherlein. Ericsson had nothing to do in F1

@Dayne-Lua

3 ай бұрын

​@@neverenoughgames72 I am telling the truth if Will F1 Gaming saw you ranking Zhou better than Ericsson he will make a rant comment at you I am not joking.

Ferrari driver transfer video next please

Sauber's history could be different if then kept Nasr... 😢

i have a suggestion, for the next transfer history video, please show the current signed drivers names on the screen. as its hard to catch up when say, i have to leave the video, and since i dont know who is signed at that time, i have to go back to the very start

@ProAndCon

3 ай бұрын

I'm with this guy. I know it's a bit of extra editing, but a graphic showing the current main, test and junior drivers in the team, disappearing and appearing on every new season would be handy and highlight those who came and left quickly and those who stayed on for a while

YESSSSS

Didn't BMW withdraw from Sauber because of the global economic crisis at the time?

@kartaltoth684

3 ай бұрын

Lack of results mixed with the economic crisis, much like Toyota.

@TheAlmin

3 ай бұрын

​@@kartaltoth684Toyota's 2010 chassis was great but it was never raced

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303

3 ай бұрын

A lot of people are ignoring the FOTA-FIA row that was going on in 2009. Yes, the 2009 car being a dog and the financial crisis made things worse, but I'm pretty sure that if the FOTA-FIA war had been resolved earlier BMW would've stayed

Can't help noticing the bit about Norberto Fontana being mentioned as German, he's Argentinian by my knowledge.

@pro-polak

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the wording is a bit awkward on this one - I think what Peter meant was that Norberto was competing in German Formula 3 at the time

No team frustrates me more than Sauber, not even Ferrari. Constant bad decision after bad decision, always settling for mediocrity instead of daring to actually be competitive. Rarely competitive, never ambitious, always irrelevant. Aside from four years of BMW that’s been Sauber in a nutshell.

@17Uhr23

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like you missed the whole 90s F1. The team always aimed high as long as Peter Sauber was in control. Or just look at their 2011 and 2012 seasons. Guy was a genius and did most of the right decisions. The team only went to shit as soon as others took control.