No sound for the majority of this video, or is it just me?

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

You're right. There's no sound or commentary after my introduction - I just wanted to show the images. I thought about adding some music, but I decided not to. My review will be all commentary!!

@stephenbaker555

2 жыл бұрын

@@Simonsutak I’m not sure, Simon, about your taste in music although I note that that spent time in St Petersburg, the home of Dimitri Shostakovich (Pls check FB if interested). I would perhaps recommend composers ranging over the last four hundred years to supplement your images.

@scottlarson1548

2 жыл бұрын

There are people who freak out when a video doesn't have sound. I don't understand it.

@jorjenn

2 жыл бұрын

Did you not listen, mate?

@neilcousineau4956

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I didn’t hear anything either

you are right . nobody needs a 55 mm 1.2. nobody. nobody but me. :) have a nice weekend Simon. And pleas don't give me more expensive ideas until monday :)

Just want to say I appreciate that you dont add silly music to ur videos

Love those transitions! Impressed by the Yashinon's performance too. Great video!

Wonderful, especially the silence accompanying the photos. As others have said, the difference in blur between f/1.2 and 1.4 is fairly small, but other aspects of the image can change at the same time. One of my favourite lenses is the Zuiko 50mm f/1.2. Wide open, the image has a magical glow to it that almost constitutes a separate mode. The lens is then sharp as you like from f/2 onwards (or somewhere around f/1.7 if ignoring the marked stops), which still has plenty of bokeh for most circumstances.

Love your practical approach. Fantastic video.

Great video. The comparison pictures are fascinating.

Fantastic video….I really learned a lot. I appreciate your time and care with the videos very much !

First I want to say that your channel is just one of the few that don’t waste our time on “artistic intros”, insigificant life stories’ details accompanied with wannabe jazzy sounds and senseless blabbering. On the topic: yes, there is a fine difference between 1.2 and 1.4 and we always want more of the good stuff. Unfortunately 1.2 is out of my wallet’s reach so I think I’ll get 1.4 (still FD Canon). Thank you for excellent presentation!

Thanks for the preview images before the actual review. It was fun looking at the out of focus areas on the Tomioka. Everyone's tastes will differ, but I don't think the gum drop bokeh balls, or modest center sharpness wide open are a deal killer. While the Mamiya might have less dramatic out of focus areas in real world shooting, I think it would be the better choice if you could only have one of the two lenses. Glad your curiosity about the Tomioka won out. 👍

0:37 correction, there's actually almost a half stop between 1.2 and 1.4, as 1 stop is a factor of sqrt(2) and log(sqrt(2),1.4/1.2) ~= 0.445.

Thank you sir! With regards to bokeh and ultrafast lenses, I just learned more in 10 minutes then I had in the past 2 years!

@carlosoruna7174

2 жыл бұрын

Bokeh also relies on the aperture blades

Wonderful - thank you for this.

Great demonstration. I usually shoot F4.0 to F11.0. I don’t know if I’m bias but these are my favourite shots.

Thanks for a very informative video.

Thanks for the pure visual experience. I have used several 1.2, 1.4 & 1.7 - 2 lenses. And sometimes I prefer the rendering of some of the slower lenses but a lot depends on the individual lens & combination with the sensor. Modern FF cameras have such improved light sensitivity that the main reason is the shallow depth of field which also depends on MFD. For me the differences of out of focus renderings is less because of aperture values but much more of the texture of the bokeh & the micro contrast.

Hi Simon. I have watched your videos and they encouraged me to buy two items to get swirly bokeh into my images. The first was a vintage lens as you suggested the Helios 44-2 58 f2.0 The second was a new product for my Canon R5 and EF lenses. The Kolari Swirl Bokeh drop-in filter which adds this lens "defect" (I say this because most lens engineers seem to try and engineer this effect out of their lens) any EF lenses (anything wider than a 35mm lens makes the focus distance to subject so short say 1 foot it is not practical). The reason I purchased the Helios is because with the Ef to RF adapter and the R5, the camera can produce a zebra stripe to show in the viewfinder which areas are in focus and which are not. This makes manual focus a breeze. But I also found these drop in filters (2) mentioned above that are meant to be used with the Canon R series cameras and RF to EF adapter and EF lenses. In one of your previous videos " Bokeh: How it's evolving- and how digital photography is elevating bokeh to an art form" you mentioned how bokeh has been elevated. Now to the point manufacturers are creating physical filters to install on your camera to add this effect and character back into modern sterile lenses. I was wondering if you have tried these (if not do a search in google for Kolari Swirl Bokeh drop-in filter) I have the filters, they seem to work but are limited to a 2-6 foot subject distance with my Canon 50mm 1.4 lens. Auto focus and exposure still work with EF lenses although infinity focus is no longer available. I wonder what you would think of this effect and how it compares to the old lenses. If you have access to a canon R series camera/RF to EF adapter/and an EF 50mm lens, I would be willing to let you borrow the filters, or you could contact Kolari to do a review on their product.. Just a thought.

Beautiful work. I would love to see portrait comparisons with the f1.2 and other lenses wide open.

I have the Nikon 55mm f1.2. However would love to try this lens. Great video

Thanks! Excellent video, I learned a lot. I was thinking of a 35 or 50mm lens with f1.1 or f1.2. Not just for bokeh, but also for low light. What kept me from buying is the fear that their large diameter would block too much of the viewer of my Leica MP. Also when shooting in bright daylight. The BOKEH I saw at around f2 was OK for me, leaving me only with the occasional regret that my narrow lenses are too slow with the film I loaded for the lowlight conditions.

Brilliant work.. I have the Tomioka auto Chinon 55 1.4 and it has come to be one of my favorite lenses. When I want some larger bokeh balls and dof I will losen the m42 lens about 5 half turns and it gives larger bokeh balls and better dof then the canon ef f/1.2...imo.. Thanks again for the video and always looking forward to seeing more.

@jmoss99

2 жыл бұрын

Hah! Great idea. I need to try that out. Unless the lens falls off and hits the ground, that is.

Thank you for another interesting video, Simon. At a time when all the photography sites seem to be shilling for manufacturers, it's very refreshing to watch your informative vlogs. Concerning the f1.2 lens, I'm not persuaded I need or want one. I'm not a fan of "soap bubble bokeh", preferring instead a smooth indistinct blur. I have two f1.4 lenses, the SMC Takumar 50 and a Rokinon 85, and so far they are fast enough for me. If the lens was a 28mm, or even a 35, I might reconsider. I have a Sigma 28mm f1.8 and the combination of the focal length and a fast aperture really appeals to me. Unfortunately, the lens is subject to rather strong chromatic aberration. Take care.

@scrptwic

2 жыл бұрын

I also have the Takumar 50mm 1.4 as well as the Rokinon 85mm1.4 both are good lenses. As far as the 1.2 I am not sold either

Super nice color from the Mamiya and Yashica

The 1.2's are pretty magical.

Superb video... Thnxs

Very useful quick comparison of F stops. I prefer F2 myself and the odd bit of focus-stacking.

I have a Tomioka made f1.4 55mm. It's rendering images, very much like your pictures. I'm a lucky person.

Fast lenses are not only about the DOF / Bokeh.....they also allow you to use fast shutter-speeds and low ISO settings where a slower lens can't.

@Snikkelbek

Жыл бұрын

Not very relevant on digital camera's. Only half a stop....

@anecro

8 ай бұрын

@@Snikkelbek It is relevant if you have a traditional dslr still and even the first few mirrorless cameras could use that. I have a 1.4 lens that I regularly use on f 2 just because that's where all of the vignetting and aberrations disappear. The difference between f 2 and 1.4 isn't massive but it does give me that extra edge in both photography and video and I really appreciate having 1.4 as an option for very dark places where f 2 doesn't cut it. You can still find yourself in such situations. I own an A7III btw, which is more than capable in all sorts of scenarios yet I still use and appreciate that 2-1.4 difference. 1.4 on an A7III means you can capture things you cannot see in real life, it's incredible.

@Snikkelbek

8 ай бұрын

@@anecroI just notice that slightly increasing ISO (like one or half a stop) doesn’t lead to a significant decline in image quality. I use a Sony A7RII. The difference on a A7 III should be even smaller. Many people are afraid to use higher ISO than 200.

@ohjajohh

6 ай бұрын

@@anecro I also have an A7III and multiple 1.4 lenses, but what do you mean you can capture things you can not see in real life?

@anecro

5 ай бұрын

@@ohjajohh it means it literally lets you see in the dark. You can have that camera handheld, crank up the iso and shutter speed thanks to the large sensor and stabilization and on 1.4 your getting enough light to notice details and objects you wouldn't be able to see by just looking in front of you, even their colors. Blew me away the first time.

Thanks Simon - nice comparison. Clearly the difference between the f1.2 and f1.4 images is not huge (at least for these lenses) but there are subtle quality differences. It can be all a bit subjective. I have Pentax A 50 f1.2 which I really like and much prefer it to the FA 50 f1.4, as (to my eyes anyway) but its not just down to bokeh differences (which the 1.2 does have an edge on the FA) as I find the f1.2 sharper than the FA at equivalent apertures and even with both wide open (although the 1.2 does have a more dreamy look to it wide open). Look forward to your review.

Thanks you for this comparison, very interesting. There are so many factors which interplay to render differences between lenses and their maximum apertures, but from my experience, although I have always pined for the f1.2 'look' I have found that the resultant size of these optics is a bit on the large side, and while the f1.4 siblings don't go quite as blown out in blur, they're usefully quite a bit lighter and more compact and also a lot less expensive which means I often feel a lot more relaxed using them. That said, I often find myself sucked back into the longing and end up with another behemoth which I use for a while before 'coming home' to the sanity of decent f1.4'ish glass :)

Impressive!!!!!! Thx

Oh this video is a really nice idea but not when I'm in the kitchen cooking and want a distraction on in a small screen. I really need to come back to this later to watch it on the big screen. This will be interesting to see these transitions.

Fantastic Video Simon! No sound works for me.

you're absolutely right, you don't need 1.2 for close-ups but if you make a frame of a portrait from 5-10meters distance: it's cool to have 1.2, if you want to, a completely blurred-out background. it's always a matter of taste and photography is a form of art... so there is no right or wrong. btw: I'm mostly never shoot wide open because it's just too difficult to focus and well, my cheap, old and scratchy lenses aren't anywhere "sharp" before f4 anyways. all the best, been binge watching your channel and honest reviews.

Great vid again.. Just fyi the first two Ricoh Rikenon 50/2's ie: XR rikenon and XR rikenon L are Tomioka built lenses with the last two S and P built elsewhere.. And you really can tell the difference in both glass and build quality.. I know they're only f2 but fantastic bokeh and ultra sharp.. Still ultra cheap for now. Pentax K mounts I think I paid £13 for my L. Bargain!! Do keep your eyes open for any of the first two.. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on them...

I am fan of Pentax. Want to see your review of Pentax 50 F1.2

I would really like to see you do a review on the Carl Zeiss Jena 50mm f1.4 Prakticar lens. (First version ).

Thank you for interesting video. Do I need F1.2 Tomioka. Probably not, but the only reason I do not have it yet is the high price of a good one. It does blur the background spectacularly. Auto Chinon 55mm f1.4 is one of my favorite lenses, and put on helicoid to get just a little closer gives me bokeh that is close to 1,2. it will be interesting to know which photos are taken on FF camera..

Waiting for the complete review.

I have only two fast lenses, and they are 1.4. The Cosinon 55mm and the Hexanon 57mm. More than enough in my case.

Do you have a copy of the 55mm f1.4 Auto Rikenon/Auto Sears version of this lens?

Very nice

amazing video, much appreciated. So I didnt catch in the video. Did you get an additional value from the 1.2 vs 1.4 - esp considering that currently on ebay, the 1.2 is 3-4x the price of the 1.4?

Thank you for the review. I have a copy of the Tomioka Yashinon 55mm f1.2 and a few other f1.2 lenses which I don't use as much as I could (it needs to be de-yellowed I think) for a couple of reasons. The main reason is the lack of aperture blades. If you have specular highlights (bokeh balls) of any sort and you need to stop down even one stop, they end up pentagonal or hexagonal. So if the other 2 lenses you reviewed here are as sharp wide open, and allow for more DOF (wide open) when desired, which is the better tool for the job? I think this may be why you like your Takumar 55mm f2.2(?). It has taken me forever to realize this. I still hope to own the Konica 57mm f1.2 some day regardless but that's a collector issue not an actual photo issue. This video has proven to be incredibly useful and a great addition to your archive. Thanks again!

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for your kind words! It wasn't until I took the photos for this video - systematically across the stops - that I realised how quickly the aperture blades come into view. And the lens also has that lip across the edge of the real element that can show up too. And yes, I'm a big fan of the Auto Takumar 55 f2.2, and even listed it as the lens that took the bokeh-rich photo of the Tomioka in the video! Until I re-checked and found I'd taken it with an Auto Takumar 55mm f1.8 (the very early version of the new style Takumar 55mm, without the cocking lever). Nevertheless, there are scenes where the Tamoika can do magical things wide open, as I'll attempt to show in the full review.

I actually prefer the less extreme f/1.4 rendering, so thanks for saving me some $$$ 😃

@bern047

2 жыл бұрын

Same here for still photography I prefer any f1.4, but for cinematic video the Canon 55mm f1.2 is my favourite

I was most impressed with the 1.7 lens....wow!

I've had the SMC Takumar 55 1.8 for a few months, and it's great. What do you recommend for a wide angle? I'm thinking 24mm or 35mm.

As of last month, 1-25-2024, my collection of f1.2 lenses consist of these: Canon FL 55mm f1.2 1968 (1.05822 lbs) Olympus OM-System G.Zuiko Auto-S 55mm f1.2 1974 SN 117492 Radioactive 3389 CPM Olympus OM-System G.Zuiko Auto-S 55mm f1.2 1974 SN 135479 NOT Radioactive Minolta MC Rokkor PG 58mm F1.2 Hawk Eye MF Lens MC II 1967-72Radioactive 1246 CPM

The difference between f/1.2 and f/1.4 is so minimal in some of these (especially the batteries) that I could not tell a difference apart from the bokeh balls being a hair smaller. The sharpness wasn't greatly affected to my eyes. Very interesting! I'll also say that I prefer the way the Mamiya/Sekor renders colours, especially reds and blues, compared to the Tomioka. There's more colour contrast and vibrancy, even if the imagine is a little cooler overall.

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks. Yes, the Mamiya/Sekor renders very attractively.

I would love to use this lens with a Nikon D5600, do you recommend it?

Simon, where is the video you talk about where you look at why you bought this particular lens? I would like to see that.

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

The other video is here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqeer7eFn5rRdZM.html

A little music maybe?! Love your content! 👍🏾

This is just what I was looking for! Had been thinking of the Takumar 8-element, but prices... Then I saw your Tomioka 1.2 review and that got me very interested, but the one I found was even a few times higher priced than the Takumar. Then saw a Tamioka 1.4 at a reasonable price and less than Takumar 8-element. Is it comparable to the 8-element? Is this a lens that will scratch that itch, and be a good compromise to the 2 other lenses at a good price?

@Simonsutak

Жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, if you mean one of the Tomioka 55mm f1.4 lenses (made for Chinon, Sears, Mamiya/Sekor, Rikenon etc), then these are excellent lenses. I have the Mamiya/Sekor 55mm f1.4 and you can see my photos with the lens here: www.flickr.com/photos/95859572@N06/albums/72157678255513446 Beautiful soft bokeh wide open, prone to extravagant flares (a good thing to me). Good sharpness stopped down. And personally, I prefer the 55mm focal length over the Takumar's 50mm. The trouble with itches is that even if you scratch them (and buy a f1.4 Tomioka), you'll still be wondering whether you should have got the Takumar 8 element. Whereas if you get the Takumar you may feel...that's enough spending. I know this isn't very helpful...all I can say is that if you get a Tomioka-made 55mm f1.4 and its a good copy, you shouldn't be disappointed. And if you are you can always sell it!

I’ll opt to save several hundred dollars and stick with my f1.4. The 1.2 just isn’t worth the price difference unless you’re paying for bragging rights…mine are Nikon lenses with my oldest 1.4 dating to the early 70’s. Good demo video, very informative.👍🏽

…well, I´ve tested both this Tomioka and the Hexanon 57mm f1.2 on a Fuji GFX50R camera. I liked the Konica more, but there was no significant difference between the two. Both are great vintage lenses.

@oktovianuskasmara5732

2 жыл бұрын

Does it cover the entire sensor without hard vignette ?

@danielvonnagy

2 жыл бұрын

…well, since I only use it in 1:1 crop mode, there is no vignetting. And it’s still an astonishing 38MP (6192×6192).

@oktovianuskasmara5732

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielvonnagy ahh, so it does not cover the full frame of the 44x33 sensor then.. thanks for your answer

With the Mamiya/Sekor 55mm f1.4 lens, are the optics any different if it is an Auto Mamiya Sekor 55mm f1.4 ??

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid I don't know. My version is the Auto.

@jmoss99

2 жыл бұрын

And now the f1.4 lenses in my collection are these: Asahi Super Takumar 50mm f1.4 Radioactive 2250 CPM Olympus Zuiko MC auto-s 50mm f/1.4 From JAPAN Black Nose Auto Chinon MultiCoated 55mm f1.4 (TOMIOKA) Auto Mamiya Sekor 55mm F1.4 with M42 Mount (TOMIOKA Design) Tomioka Auto Revuenon 55mm f/1.4 M42 (TOMIOKA) I am done buying f1.4 lenses now. Next maybe a Tomioka f1.2 of course depending on the price and some f1.4 testing. My problem has been finding a short enough depth of field in a wide 24mm lens. It would be great to have a wide angle short depth of field lens for these. A lot of the depth of field stuff can be influenced by camera to subject to background spacing, but sometimes I don't have the distance to play with. There are walls I have to deal with.

I have the 1.4 version of this lens. Is it worth upgrading to the 1.2?

Simon, in my search for another f1.2 I have been looking at the MINOLTA ROKKOR 58mm F/1.2 lens. Maybe someone can shed some light on this question. Why do these MINOLTA ROKKOR 58mm F/1.2 lenses all seem to have fungus? Is this the result of some bad coatings or what? On eBay all of the ones I have seen over the last year have had at least some fungus. And the sellers might say Excellent+++ with also stating that there was fungus on the lens. Maybe these lenses were not used much and stored under a kitchen sink? The f1.4 lenses don't. I might add that my Canon FL 55mm f1.2 1968 (1.05822 lbs) and my Olympus OM-System G.Zuiko Auto-S 55mm f1.2 1974 Radioactive 3389 CPM have no fungus at all. What do you think?

Fantastic video review 👌📸 is this tomioka lens very expensive?

@umac76

2 жыл бұрын

One hour after this video came out I looked on eBay and found only one example and it was $499.00 buy it now.

@Snapit551

2 жыл бұрын

@@umac76 super expensive 😵‍💫

@devolution1310

2 жыл бұрын

@@umac76 Picked up my Auto Sears and Mamiya version of this lens for less than 150 each. One on ebay and 1 through a private sale. Also have an auto Chinon 55mm F1.7 which is a Tomioka design and can be had for much less on Ebay but pic quality is right up there.

What about at night though?

I feel like a vast majority of really high quality fast 50's are m42 mounts. Do you find this?

@skazhenyj

2 жыл бұрын

You could find this Revuenon in PK (Pentax) mount too. There are very interesting lenses like Minolta MC 58mm F1.2, Canon FD 55mm F1.2 ("ordinary", aspherical, L...), Nikon 58mm F1.2, Pentax A (M is not bad as well) 50mm F1.2 etc. Some are as good, some probably even better than this one, but it's also a matter of taste. Anyhow, many mounts to choose from. M42 is definitely most common in general, but eventually I've ended up with many different adapters. :)

@danielvonnagy

2 жыл бұрын

@@skazhenyj …oh yeah, the Nikon 58mm f1.2! ❤️📷 If I win the lottery, I will buy one.

@chrisloomis1489

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, unless you delve into Voigtlander , but Cosina lenses are an acquired taste. I love my M42 TAKUMAR lenses.

@cvijax

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt there are a lot of great fast 50ies for M42, but some really high-quality lenses are made for M39, Contax, Pentax K, Olimpus, Minolta.

The difference between 1.2 and 1.4 is quiet subtle.

F1.2 looks worthwhile, actually a significant difference compared to f1.4. Very glad as I just purchased a canon fd chrome nose f1.2 instead of the more common f1.4……

More Chiswick park 🔥

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I'm lucky enough to walk through Chiswick House gardens most days on my walk to work 🙂

I like the f1.4 images more. Best balance between sharpness and bokeh.

actually, it's not "0.2 stops of difference". It's half a stop, as F stops numbers are not a linear scale but a ratio. There is a half-stop between f1.4 and f1.2. To be even more precise, f/1.2 is right in the middle between f/1 and f/1.4. As you may know, in terms of power, a difference of a full stop represents a factor 2. So as there is twice more light between f/1.4 and f/1, you can estimate there is a factor of square root of 2 between f/1.4 and f/1.2, which means f/1.2 is 1.41 times more light than f/1.4 . This is actually more than the number would suggest at first sight.

@Simonsutak

10 ай бұрын

Very interesting , thank you. My aim here was more simple - an observation of visible differences between f1.2 and f1.4 etc., To give people a feeling of what to expect.

OK Simon, tell me the truth. How many f1.2 lenses do you own now, almost a year after making this video. I have 2. A Canon FL 55mm f1.2 Lens elements 1968 (1.05822 lbs), and my favorite, the Olympus OM-System G.Zuiko Auto-S 55mm f1.2 1974 Radioactive 3389 CPM. However, I feel I need to find a third.

Simon, the more I look at KZread videos on vintage f1.2 lenses wide open, the less I like them. There is something about the wide open image that is uncomfortable, or it seems to me at least. It seems to me that a f1.4 might be as fast as is useful for some reason. If you look around you will see a KZread video on the NASA f0.7 lens, which is massive. It produces a much more natural looking short depth of field image than the 50mm and 55mm lenses I have seen. Even though I want the vintage f1.2 lenses to produce great images, there is something that seems broken in the images they produce wide open. Something unpleasing. I am probably not making any sense, but this is my feeling after several weeks of viewing your's and other f1.2 videos. I wanted to use one to gain more shallow depth of field for product shots than my f1.4 lenses. Maybe I just need to play with the f1.4 and the distances between the lens and the product and the distance from there to the background. Jim

@Simonsutak

2 жыл бұрын

I think what you say makes a lot of sense. I find images with a tiny sliver in focus (for example, down the side of a wall, or down the side of a product) can look very unnatural. So I try to focus on subjects where the narrow dof helps to give an image a more 3D look - but those subjects have to be quite small and thin, and already isolated if I'm up close. Not sure how many products fall into this category!! I like f1.7 or f1.8 lenses for this because they still give good isolation and bokeh, and some are quite sharp wide open.

@jmoss99

2 жыл бұрын

It must be a situation where finding the right subject and space for a f1.2 is of ultimate importance, the ultimate test of a photographer. A f1.2 seems to be the most demanding limit for small camera lenses. I still want to get one, but I want to understand them first. Thanks for your response. Jim

If I buy 1.2 lens blame it on Simon! :D

You might want to try a lens that offers the ultimate image quality in out-of-focus Bokeh background and in fact, the images out of this lens are superb at all f.stops and that is the NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena.......but is expensive!

I have the Chinon version of this lens.

@MrArn0ldus

2 жыл бұрын

I have a consinon . Front and rear glass look the same. But are they all the same?

@damiendehorn6350

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrArn0ldus Nope they are not the same. My Chinon 55mm F1.2 was made by Tomioka Optical, who made/licensed the design to multiple brands including Sears, Revuenon, Chinon etc. Tomioka Optical also made the glass for others including Yashica, Zeiss (Contax Zeiss 50mm f1.4), Rikenon...Tomioka Optical was bought by Yashica, who were bought by Kyocera. As far as I know Tomioka never made any glass for Cosina, who made the Cosinon 55mm f1.2, hope that helps. * The Tomioka branded Cosinon on the other hand is the same, and is wholly made by Tomioka but just branded as Cosina.

@MrArn0ldus

2 жыл бұрын

@@damiendehorn6350 Thanks for reply. My Cosinon auto F1.2 55mm Tomioka made in Japan is a different lens than the revuenon ?

@damiendehorn6350

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrArn0ldus If your Cosinon is the early 70s all metal (no rubber focus grip) Tomioka version then, its the same as the Auto Revuenon. It has the same 7 elements in 6 groups design, but with different coatings, in-fact I prefer the Cosina coatings.

@MrArn0ldus

2 жыл бұрын

@@damiendehorn6350 Yes it's all metal. Thanks nice to know that it's the same lens.

Interesting ! Great video…..I have severalF1.2 50mm’s and even more F1.4’s. I find that there is more of a difference going from 50mm f1.4 to 55 or 58mm 1.4 than I do going from 50 F1.4 to 50mm F1.2. Even then it depends on how the lens was designed….for example I have the Nikon AF-S 58mm f1.4 and compared to my canon fd 50mm 1.4 is night and day. Tons more blur and much smoother. All focal lengths being equal I find the difference between f1.4 and f1.2 not too different. I have a canon FL 58 F1.2 and I do love the look but I can’t see a significant difference between it my Nikon 58mm f1.4. I’ve also compared the Nikon to my 7artisans 50mm f1.1 and I do see a difference there but again it’s minimal. I lusted after faster than f1.4 50’s for several years and I’ve concluded there is not that much of a difference in the rendering but the extra light does keep my ISO’s down and for me that has been a bigger difference maker. All that said I’m sure I will get another f1.2 lol there is something a little special about it but not what I thought it would be before having a few.

Depends on the 1.2. 50 canon aspherical from the 70s. Yaaa

The video is up to the usual impeccable standard but it's missing the wonderful dulcet tones.

I'm a little bewildered about how they were used for film.

@JLongTom

2 жыл бұрын

In what way?

@jmoss99

2 жыл бұрын

Because film was slow.

i have several fast vintage lenses but my mitakon 0.95/35mm beats them all....

@ShutterKnack

2 жыл бұрын

You're comparing a modern Chinese lens to vintage ones.

@jel88

2 жыл бұрын

yes you are absolutely right I started using vintage lenses because of the image quality and the manual settings, in a way the mitakon has these too and in the end it's all about the photos

Canon FD 1.2 is optically inferior to the Tomioka 1.2 in all respects. I have both. I also have Minolte 1.2 and this one is also worse. It loses a lot like Canon on microcontrast

@williamkazak469

2 жыл бұрын

I had a Nikon 50mm F1.2. A waste of time for my shooting. Got rid of it after a couple of years.

I had the ds-m version of this lens for a while. For one, the rear element housing was so massive that it wouldn't focus farther than about 2 metres because it would ram into the lip of my adapter. Beyond that I thought the image quality wide open was just disgusting... low contrast, bad colours, flare, purple fringing. There is a degree to which these things can be artful but this lens goes way beyond it. Then if you stop down you lose the wide-open quality I enjoy in f1.4 / f2 lenses. I got rid of it as soon as I could and shoot happily on a hand-me-down 44-2 instead!

@jmoss99

2 жыл бұрын

Try using a Lens Hood.

1.2 is just too much...

Wait what. What do you mean ultra fast? Do different apertures have different speeds? Are we talking about shutter speed? I'm lost.

@Simonsutak

2 ай бұрын

Ultra fast = speed = f-stop number. I own a 90 year old lens called the "Dallmeyer Speed Anastigmat f/1.5 F=1". Speed was used 90 years ago to mean the "fast" f-stop of f1.5. And it's been used ever since like this. The faster the f-stop, the faster the shutter speed required for any given light and exposure.

Do I need it? no Do I want it? Yes WIll I buy it? Only if I can get a real bargain

Simon, check this out. Here is what I am using this lens for at the moment. I hope you don't mind. I was going for a dream like look. This is not an accident. I worked to get this look. These are part of a series of photos that I shot to be added in segments of a KZread video. I took about 20 photos with the Olympus OM-System G.Zuiko Auto-S 55mm f1.2 lens. These captured the effect I was looking for. Notice the blur behind the front panel. Notice the sparkle effect from the use of light and the area just out side of the field of focus in the photo of the switches. No filters were used here. images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--jmtiEoDk--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1656240236/ooadsx28gwognmm05lmm.jpg images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--NZ_9Gb8B--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1656240182/kozveo9y7n9cgjwkwv0g.jpg These links are currently on my Reverb . com webpage. I think they are safe. I think they are beautiful. I am using a Canon 2000D in portrait mode #2 at about 4 to 5 feet from the front panel.