F-86 Sabre vs Mig-15: Single & Group Korean War Dogfights | DCS

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  • @nathanhuntoon8099
    @nathanhuntoon8099 Жыл бұрын

    Kortana's giggle when Cap flew into the mountain was devastating. 🤣😂

  • @neilg8009

    @neilg8009

    Жыл бұрын

    Made my year 😁

  • @valuedhumanoid6574

    @valuedhumanoid6574

    Жыл бұрын

    Savage

  • @falcon9983

    @falcon9983

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it was lmao

  • @rubiconnn

    @rubiconnn

    Жыл бұрын

    omg that snort and suppressed laugh was hilarious.

  • @Thanatos1986

    @Thanatos1986

    Жыл бұрын

    G-Force GIGACHAD

  • @jaxompol224
    @jaxompol224 Жыл бұрын

    it's amazing how professional GR get when Kortana is in game.

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, the GR guys have to man-up quickly when Kortana is in the house 😂

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeh we have to behave ourselves.

  • @BoneLancerB
    @BoneLancerB Жыл бұрын

    The more we see Kortana being ruthlessly competent at everything GR does, the more I am convinced she is no mere mortal and is instead the reincarnation of Athena.

  • @skyhorseprice6591

    @skyhorseprice6591

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean, Athena is the reincarnation of Kortana? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    Жыл бұрын

    “Kathena” is her name now

  • @BoneLancerB

    @BoneLancerB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dexlab7539 This is the way.

  • @MarkoDash

    @MarkoDash

    Жыл бұрын

    Razgriz

  • @SakoRichards
    @SakoRichards Жыл бұрын

    That’s some of the best GR we’ve had in a long time. Thanks for coming guys n gals!

  • @SakoRichards

    @SakoRichards

    Жыл бұрын

    I think I can speak for many of us agreeing with Kortana about doing a high alt fight. Regardless I hope there are many vids like this to come. The banter and S talking between blue and red during the fight had me dying. Kortana trying to hold back the lol’s flying Cap into the ground was way funnier than it should have been.

  • @KortanaDCS

    @KortanaDCS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SakoRichards Lmao, yeah, I was relaxing about 1000 feet above him waiting for a good opportunity to pounce when he decided to lawn dart into the mountainside 🤣

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, that was awesome! Best dog fights in awhile. Nice job Kortana! Glad to see you back 😃

  • @yahnump

    @yahnump

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KortanaDCS Should we change his username from SuperCap to MrLawnDart?

  • @tuskegee87
    @tuskegee87 Жыл бұрын

    Kortana!!! I feel like I haven't heard her voice in forever. Welcome back. One day I'll get in on one of these missions.

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 Жыл бұрын

    Ahhh, yes. It's "Kortana The Hammer," beating on opponents without mercy. GR's ruthless killer has returned to the fold!

  • @bruce4623
    @bruce4623 Жыл бұрын

    These are the best fights that I've seen in a while!... MORE PLEASE! 😁

  • @nonamesplease6288
    @nonamesplease6288 Жыл бұрын

    Many years ago I saw the great Snort Snodgrass flying the Skyblazers F86 in a most spectacular way at the Willow Grove airshow. RIP, Snort.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @DripsDrop
    @DripsDrop Жыл бұрын

    Was a pleasure flying with you Kortana!

  • @KortanaDCS

    @KortanaDCS

    Жыл бұрын

    Likewise!

  • @anomalyp8584

    @anomalyp8584

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KortanaDCS You have actual experience? You sound like a professional

  • @KortanaDCS

    @KortanaDCS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anomalyp8584 I do have some flying experience irl if that's what you are asking, but I'm not a licensed pilot yet.

  • @anomalyp8584

    @anomalyp8584

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KortanaDCS I'm convinced you would pass easily. You have commander skills as well. It's clear cap sees you as a rival 🤣

  • @Chio_OB

    @Chio_OB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anomalyp8584 I dont think Cap has any doubts that Kortana will crush mere mortals, lol!

  • @RainbowDash-vy2dn
    @RainbowDash-vy2dn Жыл бұрын

    its nice to finally get a video with both kortana and violet

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed. can;t wait till Violet skills up and we'll get some serious lady action!

  • @RainbowDash-vy2dn

    @RainbowDash-vy2dn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grimreapers might have to have kortana pair up with her to train her

  • @connorc4309
    @connorc4309 Жыл бұрын

    that was a hell of a come back by Violet. great fuel management and flying

  • @onefansview9874
    @onefansview9874 Жыл бұрын

    I missed Kortana. Great job new and old!

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 Жыл бұрын

    Firstly - Welcome back Kortana. You've been missed. Secondly - Thank you Kortana and Violet for the fight I wanted to see (especially as Violet was rather wary a good few weeks ago). It was fun. I hope that you have many re-matches in the future. Thirdly - Thanks Cap. This was a fun filled episode. You were on top form today. I rarely stopped giggling - start to finish. Your war of wits with Simba and Kortana = 🤣🤣🤣 Finally - Thank you to everyone else who flew today. I'm going to bed with a 😃 on my face.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    xx

  • @dexlab7539
    @dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

    “Revenge is best served with Squid” 😂 - Awesome dogfights thx Cap!!

  • @christopherjohnson529
    @christopherjohnson529 Жыл бұрын

    Very entertaining! A few thoughts: 1. There's a wide range of skill on the GR team, but it seemed that the more experienced folks weren't switching sides regularly. We saw Kortana slaying in the MiG-15, but I don't recall seeing her in the F-86. Simba seemed to be in the MiG-15 for both of the group engagements etc. Would be interesting if the teams really did switch sides completely for the group fights, would even out any skill disparities. 2. As others have mentioned, the Sabre's biggest advantages are speed in a dive (up to Mach 0.95 controllable IIRC) and a much superior roll rate. It would be interesting to see pilots use the roll rate more (scissors, etc) against the MiG if this fight happens again.

  • @billdevitt4324
    @billdevitt4324 Жыл бұрын

    This was a really fun one to watch. Great Job Cap & Crew! @Grim Reapers ☺

  • @CJB-
    @CJB- Жыл бұрын

    That Mig had a Rolls Royce engine and we now train Chinese pilots. So proud to be British.

  • @mattipps

    @mattipps

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks... :/

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe we are banning the pilots from going to China now.

  • @Axgoodofdunemaul
    @Axgoodofdunemaul Жыл бұрын

    Very educational AND entertaining! Thanks for the good time.

  • @ubique6859
    @ubique6859 Жыл бұрын

    This was a great fun video to watch, love the old dog fights. Thanks GR!

  • @cypher104
    @cypher104 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent fights, great video!

  • @lazaglider
    @lazaglider Жыл бұрын

    Don't know why but I've enjoyed yesterday's 40's intercept race and this video so much. Cheers guys.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    It was genuinely fun and interesting.

  • @Anonymous-gf6ob
    @Anonymous-gf6ob Жыл бұрын

    Love your channel, keep it up :)

  • @daviddoyle982
    @daviddoyle982 Жыл бұрын

    Great work GR! Always entertaining!

  • @MrRevertis
    @MrRevertis Жыл бұрын

    Really thrilling series of fights, great fun.

  • @Thuddster
    @Thuddster Жыл бұрын

    Such good play-by-play. Some great stick work, GR, super entertaining video! Kortana is GR-core, you are missed (no simping here) when away. Moar, please. :-)

  • @rongamblin2107
    @rongamblin2107 Жыл бұрын

    You guys are great. Ty

  • @jamesa.7604
    @jamesa.7604 Жыл бұрын

    This seemed like a situation where the pilots were better than the planes. Everyone did some amazing maneuvering in the air dueling. Simba, Kortana and Violet are really good at dogfighting. Love These videos!

  • @cochacopen
    @cochacopen Жыл бұрын

    From what I've found doing a cursory search the K/D ratio of this duel in real life depended upon the skill of the pilots. When Soviets had some of their best pilots in Mig Alley the ratio was 1.4/1 in favor of the Sabre. After the Soviets pulled their pilots and replaced them with NK and Chinese the ratio ballooned to 5.6/1 in favor of the Sabre. The American pilots were, in general, just better trained.

  • @ThePaulv12
    @ThePaulv12 Жыл бұрын

    Re the VK-1, reminds me a bit of the Brits selling the Dreadnought concept (particularly Parson's steam turbine tech that enabled the whole box and dice to work) to the world in the early 20th Century. Who knows, but it could've stopped the first arms race of the last century.

  • @carsonyoder7320
    @carsonyoder7320 Жыл бұрын

    The dogfight I've been waiting for

  • @Yokoboy045
    @Yokoboy045 Жыл бұрын

    What did you expect? That's Cortanna!

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    yarp

  • @euanmontgomery4936
    @euanmontgomery4936 Жыл бұрын

    Think you guys had fun with that . 😊

  • @cesarespinozaspain
    @cesarespinozaspain Жыл бұрын

    KORTANA we missed you!!!!!!!!

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын

    There's a History Channel series called the Top 10 ... of All Time and they take the best of every military hardware ever made and rank them. The number one was the P51D Mustang and the Mig 15 and the Sabre tied for number 3 (I think). But when one of the experts said if one of the American Sabre pilots ever saw a Mig 15 up close they would smirk with disdain at how crude and "slapped" together they appeared. Rivets missing, poorly fitted panels, etc. Like most Soviet hardware, they were more interested in quantity over quality. Take a good design, like the T-34 tank or the Mig 15 and start cranking them out. They lived by the motto "quantity has a quality all it's own"

  • @clarkeorchard2304
    @clarkeorchard2304 Жыл бұрын

    one of the best so far

  • @TraditionalAnglican
    @TraditionalAnglican Жыл бұрын

    Chuck Yeager nearly got killed in a MIG -15 in a dive (Mach 0.97), while he had a F-86 up to 1.05 in a dive and recovered with no problem. The F-86 had a 1.3+:1 Kill Ratio v. the MIG-15 when flown by elite Soviet Pilots.

  • @conan670431
    @conan670431 Жыл бұрын

    Great fights ..... sorry to let you down a bit but my track IR batt died so my view was locked and could not turn my head...... silly me :) Tons of fun anyway and very close calls :)

  • @exidy-yt
    @exidy-yt Жыл бұрын

    Cap's 6 o'clock is his eternal weakness. That Kortana/Simba tag-team rope-a-dope was a thing of beauty to watch. 😘 These dogfight videos are just SO much fun to watch. Keep em coming!

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    TBH I got a lot of weaknesses in gun fights. Nice to watch the other grow in in confidence though.

  • @snowness110
    @snowness110 Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back Kortana!

  • @keegandissent2225
    @keegandissent2225 Жыл бұрын

    Haha Cap flew into a mountain. Korty slays again. Great stuff GR team. You lot are freaking hilarious. Lmao 🤣

  • @streetcop157
    @streetcop157 Жыл бұрын

    So happy to have kortanna back

  • @OscarZheng50
    @OscarZheng50 Жыл бұрын

    wow what a turnaround from the sabres in the first group fight, it came down to a 1v3, everything was o the mig's side until fuel started becoming a problem

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Жыл бұрын

    Gud vid 👌👍🔥

  • @sjpeckham1
    @sjpeckham1 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding work folks. Keep them coming please!

  • @blindazabat9527
    @blindazabat9527 Жыл бұрын

    Another interesting bit on how the Soviets got their version of the Rolls-Royce engine is that their first attempts were not very successful because they were not using the right alloy to build the engine. The were invited to visit the R-R factory in England and their delagation members wore shoes with soles designed to collect the chips and scraps from the floor. They analysed their harvest and found out what to build the engine with.

  • @randalljones4370
    @randalljones4370 Жыл бұрын

    "That's a mountain"

  • @flatcapfiddle
    @flatcapfiddle Жыл бұрын

    Love the look of these old fashioned open nose jets. Look aggressive and graceful.

  • @michaelmiles933
    @michaelmiles933 Жыл бұрын

    Good God this is a good channel

  • @thegrandt604
    @thegrandt604 Жыл бұрын

    Cap and all the folks with GR, doing amazing work as always! Can't wait to see what exciting aeronautical nonsense awaits in future vids! Godspeed, gents (and lady).

  • @sekinVR
    @sekinVR Жыл бұрын

    Great flying guys

  • @waynesworldofsci-tech
    @waynesworldofsci-tech Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been having so much fun watching, that I’ve downloaded and installed DCS on my M2 Mac. Going to try to learn the game. Damn, but this will be fun!

  • @theonewhoknows2

    @theonewhoknows2

    Жыл бұрын

    I recommend a joystick

  • @voradfils
    @voradfils Жыл бұрын

    Does SuperCap still have a need for a kill counter script? I made an elegant and lightweight bunch for my own use and I think they're pretty much what you're looking for.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup send in GR discord please, we can discuss there.

  • @TheBdesignz
    @TheBdesignz Жыл бұрын

    This was an awesome video. What bind do you use to freeze the camera while the plane keeps flying?

  • @kenc9236
    @kenc9236 Жыл бұрын

    Caps gasp he makes when he almost hits something while flying is hilarious. Good job boys.

  • @kevinwilkinson7558
    @kevinwilkinson7558 Жыл бұрын

    Finally a video on the f86 I've been hoping for this video since I started watching this channel. It's my favorite jet. Now if I can get the gr's to do another f4u Corsair video. That would be awesome.

  • @KortanaDCS

    @KortanaDCS

    Жыл бұрын

    We were actually brainstorming the other day and were extremely surprised that we hadn't done this fight already. And don't you worry, once the F4U-1D is released, I will be pushing Cap to do some fights with it :)

  • @kevinwilkinson7558

    @kevinwilkinson7558

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KortanaDCS for some reason I thought it got released almost a year ago. I thought there was a single video on it. Maybe it was just a test. I don't have dcs but watch almost every video when they are released. But thank you for doing the F-86 video, and great flying in it

  • @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY

    @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY

    Жыл бұрын

    How about the F-8 “Last of the Gunfighters” would be so awesome to see. Wish it were available, I doubt it is but man I do love that Jet it was a beast of a gunfighter and the last of its kind!!

  • @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY

    @KayleeBlakeBTSARMY

    Жыл бұрын

    F-8 Crusader I meant to say l left off the Crusader part

  • @Driveby-Viktum
    @Driveby-Viktum Жыл бұрын

    Hey Cap! I have a Question? Have you ever done a hypothetical Alternate history where the Sabre is the U.S WWII fighter going up against any German fighters from that time period? I would really love to see a squadron of Sabres up against the best of what Germany had to offer.

  • @warbuzzard7167

    @warbuzzard7167

    Жыл бұрын

    Sabre v. Me 262

  • @Driveby-Viktum

    @Driveby-Viktum

    Жыл бұрын

    @@warbuzzard7167 Thanks! I did not see that in a video

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    Problem is Sabre was sooooo far above any German end of war jet planes. Would be a complete miss-match...

  • @reecelawrence3784

    @reecelawrence3784

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grimreapers maybe try with the f80 or f84?

  • @Tacticaviator7
    @Tacticaviator7 Жыл бұрын

    Hey I just wanted to say that wing loading won't instantly make the plane a better turn/rate fighter, the airfoil, thrust to weight ratio and other smaller stuff will matter aswell.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes of course but I find it a good guide.

  • @lenn55
    @lenn55 Жыл бұрын

    Kortana's back! YAY!!!!1

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 Жыл бұрын

    It’s a good day!

  • @Chio_OB
    @Chio_OB Жыл бұрын

    GS (sorry) did a 1v1 of these 2 planes and the Mig came out on top. This was a superb vid! loved it

  • @ryanrundell8538
    @ryanrundell8538 Жыл бұрын

    Cap, I have been asking Growling Sidewinder to do a particular dogfight for almost a month now. Would like to see you do it. F15 STOL vs SU 57.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    We all have the same problem. SU-57 currently has only a partial working Flight Model(hence why we rarely use it), so seems a little bit pointless not to wait until it's ready?

  • @strambino1
    @strambino1 Жыл бұрын

    The best jet matchup in history!

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    yup

  • @EGLately
    @EGLately Жыл бұрын

    seems like it would be fun to play with these guys!

  • @garymyers6638
    @garymyers6638 Жыл бұрын

    f86 uses flaps in dog fights. Slow it down and turn inside the Mig

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Жыл бұрын

    Do they not model the lead computing Gunsight of the F-86? One of the biggest advantages the F-86 had over the MIG was the gunsight. When the target was at the proper range and deflection the gunsight would light up letting the Sabre Pilot know when to pull the trigger. The other advantage that I know they probably don't model is the MIG-15 had a simple cable and pully control system where the Saber had hydraulically enhanced controls. The faster the MIG-15 flew the harder it was for the pilot to get it to turn due to the force required to pull on the stick. Sabre pilots learned to keep the fight as fast as possible where with the hydraulically enhanced controls would let them EASILY outmaneuver the MIG-15.

  • @voradfils
    @voradfils Жыл бұрын

    Sabre is much far more forgiving as far speed control goes which is going factor into the results. Getting hits is also somewhat easier. This match up is definitely down to pilot skill but I would beat myself with the MiG most of the time thanks to the higher thrust and better sustained turn capability.

  • @444dandaman
    @444dandaman Жыл бұрын

    Do we know what version of the browning is modeled for the saber in DCS?

  • @memelephant
    @memelephant Жыл бұрын

    Glad that Kortana is back

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Жыл бұрын

    Now with more Katana...ha!

  • @marse5729
    @marse57293 ай бұрын

    That first 5v5 was so ridiculously intense.

  • @johneckert1690
    @johneckert1690 Жыл бұрын

    What a great idea, Air combat at 30,000 feet. I LOVE IT,

  • @bearcatracing007
    @bearcatracing007 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful Super Cap and his wonderfully huge balls

  • @kittyhawk9707
    @kittyhawk9707 Жыл бұрын

    Love the way Cap has the hots for the Sabre and totally disrespects the Mig and ends up getting owned by said Mig .. having supposedly "better guns and a better wing " are no good if you disregard the abilities of your enemy and you lose in the process.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    yup

  • @kittyhawk9707

    @kittyhawk9707

    Жыл бұрын

    I found it amusing .. could only happen to SuperCap ... the Mig is very dangerous in the right hands .. I have a soft spot for Migs esp the 17. Good fights though .

  • @FelixstoweFoamForge
    @FelixstoweFoamForge Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff. Again. I much prefer these pre-missile fights. Lobbing long range AIM120D at each other from 100 miles is just not my bag of chips. Hell, I even feel guilty when using a 40 mile amram. Loved this. More please

  • @jrizos06
    @jrizos06 Жыл бұрын

    30:15 is the moment we knew Cap was the comedic genius we always knew him to be.. look at that delivery

  • @christophero55
    @christophero55 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Kortana in a video again! Yea! :)

  • @1985zebulon
    @1985zebulon Жыл бұрын

    We need more Kortana! But everyone is great

  • @paulh5027
    @paulh5027 Жыл бұрын

    Shows why the Sabre needed the leading edge slats. If you add them try this again.

  • @therobert9521
    @therobert9521 Жыл бұрын

    The only problem with doing this on CPU is you can't feel the effects of the flight controls. Yeah the Mig 15 could rate with a Sabre, but for how long? The Sabre had Hydraulic assisted flight controls so the pilot could do a high g turn all day. The Mig was cable control so the pilot had to use brut force to keep the Mig in a high G turn. The Mig pilot would eventually tire out.

  • @th3b0yg
    @th3b0yg Жыл бұрын

    Hooray Kortana!!!

  • @aztec0112
    @aztec0112 Жыл бұрын

    Predict :MiG-15. All else being equal, the .50 cal in DCS is like shooting confetti. Hope I'm wrong....

  • @FeiHuWarhawk
    @FeiHuWarhawk Жыл бұрын

    Mig is a pure dogfighter a ton and a half lighter and same power. The 3-6 wing of the Sabre gives it more lift, but not enough. In a dogfight the Sabre will use up any energy management as it eventually will meet the ground. Running out of dive space. Only defense is an excellent roll rate. Mig will always suppress the Sabre as it can climb to 50k ft and stay there. Like the P47 had against the Me109 and Fw190. In a dogfight both were better than the P47. P47 needs to use high speed and leave the battle space to regain its energy.

  • @Thuddster

    @Thuddster

    Жыл бұрын

    This. Most effective tactic for F86 use vs. MiG was boom and zoom, in packs...

  • @FeiHuWarhawk

    @FeiHuWarhawk

    Жыл бұрын

    Works for a while if you have more energy. But the Mig has more thrust/weight and will retain the perch better regaining its potential energy. Mig turns better Sabre Rolls better. Mig is 3000+lbs lighter. If the Mig pilot had a G-suit…Sabre pilot better have altitude!

  • @antonyinterlandi6657
    @antonyinterlandi6657 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Guys. Just came across your Mig-15 V F86 Sabre video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I believe that the Mig-15 was superior to the F86 in most aspects of dog fighting because it was able to retain a higher energy level for a longer period of time. Although much came down to the overall skills of the respective pilots, the higher energy level of the Mig-15 did give an overall advantage. It wasn't until the Avon Sabre came along that the 86 was able to realise an overall dogfight advantage over the Mig-15. It would be great to see the Grim Reapers slog it out in an Avon Sabre V Mig-15 battle, both 1v1 and melee. Cheers 👍

  • @5Andysalive
    @5Andysalive Жыл бұрын

    There are more gauntlets flying through the air in this than bullets....

  • @danwilliams5867
    @danwilliams5867 Жыл бұрын

    Always the pilot on this close of aircraft. USAF proved that with there combat pilots vs MIGS over Korea

  • @bigcountry5045
    @bigcountry5045 Жыл бұрын

    bout time we had a video with both reaper hotties .... Miss Cortana and Miss Violet .... a real treat for sure ... awesome flying ladies !!!!!!

  • @rootstriker8209
    @rootstriker8209 Жыл бұрын

    The F86s .50cals also had radar track and guiding

  • @daviddavis602
    @daviddavis602 Жыл бұрын

    Hi,.you guys should try some historical scenario's which lost at the time but see if you guys can turn it round with your expertise. Eg= hat if early warning scenario's where enabled/eg= peral harbour, etc etc.

  • @doemacmonkey
    @doemacmonkey Жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting to match the MiG’s cannons against the Australian version of the Sabre with 2x30mm Aden canons with 162 rounds per gun. - pity it isnt available in DCS.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed

  • @stevemiller7433
    @stevemiller7433 Жыл бұрын

    The Mig had other problems not depicted in the sim... when diving the cockpit would fog up and blind you. As for the pilot skill, they were pretty equivalent.. The Migs and the F-86s were both flown by skilled and experienced WW2 pilots. The Kill ratio was 2:1 in favor of the F-86.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

    F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II MB-339 Aermacchi VS MIG-15 P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K

  • @Anarchy_420

    @Anarchy_420

    Жыл бұрын

    AV-8 Harrier VS MIG-23 Flogger J-7 VS MIG-21 J-10 VS SU-27 F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Test Fight

  • @Anarchy_420

    @Anarchy_420

    Жыл бұрын

    Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado MIG-29K VS SU-33 UH-1H VS Mi-8

  • @lancer2204
    @lancer2204 Жыл бұрын

    24:43 Am I the only one who thought "Take one for the team, or die in a glorious distraction"?

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo668 Жыл бұрын

    Fun vid. Yeah I'm not sure about matching the Bis against vanilla F86's,if that is what they were. I am fairly sure that the Mig was marginally better in the turns but had more vices as an airframe as well, possibly better energy retention. Historically the Sabre and US pilots that were well trained and many with WWII experience did very well against Korean and Chinese pilots who were poorly trained and noviced more often than not. The Clandestine Russian pilots did better, close to 1:1 kill ratio. There was a lot of over claiming of kills from both sides in that war. I think a lot of it would have come down to tactics, who saw who first and who had the advantages at the opening of an engagement.

  • @FeiHuWarhawk
    @FeiHuWarhawk Жыл бұрын

    Interesting that Mig and Sabre can use full thrust without over heating compared to Prop fighters and WEP.

  • @BillyBoze

    @BillyBoze

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, WEP is boosting past 100% to begin with. And these jets do overheat at 100% thrust.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    In reality I think these jets probably did over-heat after a while. Prob not modelled in game.

  • @Camarobro98
    @Camarobro98 Жыл бұрын

    im not 100% sure about how you guys have the planes set up, but i always try to make sure my oxygen is at 100% before i enter a dogfight in the sabre

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Жыл бұрын

    40:46 - What was that sound? 🤣

  • @AT-bo6ww
    @AT-bo6ww Жыл бұрын

    Wing loading doesn't do that much to be honest. The MiG-15 is better than the Sabre in almost every aspect of dogfighting, except roll rate. The MiG has an abysmal roll compared to most fighters, at practically every speed. One good tactic would probably be to lure the MiG into a flat scissor and cause it to overshoot.

  • @yvesdulac1871

    @yvesdulac1871

    Жыл бұрын

    No, the Mig-15 has much worse instantaneous turn rate than the F-86 and has much wider turn radius

  • @iKvetch558
    @iKvetch558 Жыл бұрын

    Please tell me if I am wrong, but didn't the Sabre have a radar ranging gunsight, which the Mig-15 lacked? Would that not also give the Sabre a big advantage in it ability to put rounds on target?

  • @KortanaDCS

    @KortanaDCS

    Жыл бұрын

    It does, though it has issues with ground clutter. The .50's can be fired very accurately when you can employ it though.

  • @iKvetch558

    @iKvetch558

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KortanaDCS I am happy that I remembered that correctly. It is good to have confirmation my brain still functions. LOL

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    Жыл бұрын

    I did try but didn;t really work.

  • @christophero55
    @christophero55 Жыл бұрын

    God these aircraft are so gorgeous. I love watching them dance.

  • @anomalyp8584
    @anomalyp8584 Жыл бұрын

    Kortana is a fucking beast

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