F-18 HARV

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In the mid-1980s the NASA Langley Research Centre would head a program known as the High Angle of Attack Technology Program, or HATP. As a testbed to study high AOA performance, NASA chose an F-18 Hornet and named it the High Alpha Research Vehicle, or HARV.
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  • @bamafan-in-OZ
    @bamafan-in-OZ3 ай бұрын

    Very interesting, you can see where some of the design changes to the Super Hornet came from.

  • @thelandofnod123

    @thelandofnod123

    3 ай бұрын

    Such as?

  • @bobdadnaila7708

    @bobdadnaila7708

    3 ай бұрын

    You can also see where our current thrust-vectoring technology originated.

  • @spitezor

    @spitezor

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thelandofnod123I'm not sure but I was going to speculate the enlarged strakes on the F/A-18E are one outcome.

  • @thelandofnod123

    @thelandofnod123

    3 ай бұрын

    @@spitezor The larger LEX on the Super Hornet are a result of the investigation into fin cracking on the Hornet. The Hornet implemented LEX Fences to disrupt the vortex generated by the LEX impacting the fin. As well as being larger because the whole airframe is larger, the design of the LEX on the Super Hornet ensures the vortex avoids the fin. This wasn’t a result of the HARV program per se.

  • @Feuriger_Kriegsheld
    @Feuriger_Kriegsheld3 ай бұрын

    damned, the only thing we are missing now is a modified F14😂 In all honesty the F18 HARV is a beautify albeit forgotten

  • @mamarussellthepie3995

    @mamarussellthepie3995

    3 ай бұрын

    Super Tomcat go zool

  • @thelandofnod123

    @thelandofnod123

    3 ай бұрын

    And the F-111 TACT.

  • @bruceday6799
    @bruceday67993 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much. I had forgotten this 'what if' vehicle. That paint job and your site brought it back. Well done!

  • @thelandofnod123
    @thelandofnod1233 ай бұрын

    Always interesting to see very early Hornets. No LEX fences, no fin repairs. Although there are a couple of shots of the HARV in the video with fences fitted. It also has a fleeting shot of the F-18A marking above 68L, very cool.

  • @davidryall-flanders6353
    @davidryall-flanders63533 ай бұрын

    Another great video. Your channel is definitely one of my favourites.

  • @kibathemechanic4967
    @kibathemechanic49673 ай бұрын

    Could you also do a video covering the F-14A used by NASA? I believe they did some testing with the wings, and even some LIMITED thrust vectoring, but I've never come across much information.

  • @Jabzzo
    @Jabzzo3 ай бұрын

    Pretty cool, good vid

  • @mamarussellthepie3995
    @mamarussellthepie39953 ай бұрын

    Imagine how game changing mach1+ capable 3D TV engine nozzles could have been if this program had continued 😊

  • @thelandofnod123

    @thelandofnod123

    3 ай бұрын

    Although it would have been cool, the F404 is really small, as noted in the commentary the package was quite heavy, even with further development I don’t think there would have been enough room in the engine platform or engine bay (the Hornet engine bay is seriously cramped, ask any poor schmuck changing a SEC PRV with the LH engine still fitted, shudder) to provide enough benefit to outweigh the costs. Although 70 degrees AOA is insane.

  • @AaaBbb-ff1pn

    @AaaBbb-ff1pn

    3 ай бұрын

    TV is useful at low speed when at high alfa surface control loose authority. at high speed there is plenty of force, the risk is overstress the airframe. i think that they said that the limit with tvc paddle is sub mach1 because there's a risk to loose them due to shockwave sollecitation and not because they don't have budget to explore that part of flight envelope

  • @mamarussellthepie3995

    @mamarussellthepie3995

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AaaBbb-ff1pn I think you missed the point. . . The nozzle design keeps them from passing mach, compared to other fighters. . .

  • @AaaBbb-ff1pn

    @AaaBbb-ff1pn

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mamarussellthepie3995 i think you miss the point too. Even if the design of the nozzle allow to pass mach1 (like f22 or su30/35 family) they would be less needed at high speed in a fighter jet. Pilots tend to go in dream mode or aircraft have a rapid unschedul disassembly if you try something too "spectacular" other than help with trimming in supercruise.

  • @mamarussellthepie3995

    @mamarussellthepie3995

    Ай бұрын

    @AaaBbb-ff1pn I think you may be missing the point here, too! At high altitudes where the 18s tend to hit high mach numbers, the air used to maneuver is rather thin! That unfortunately means you will spend more time trying to maneuver than going where you wanna go! If you have access to thrust vectoring control, you instantly gain high altitude maneuverability that would help any plane go where it needs to go faster than normal. . . (and now'a days and even back in the day, FBW was pretty much required for new developments of planes to not "over G" anywhere near as much as pilots want). Now, say you use up all of your valuable energy needed for aerodynamic ctrl surfaces to give you required maneuverability when it's really needed. High alpha giving TV nozzles would allow a plane that already dumps its speed in a few tight turns (F18 family) to point where it needs to point to get around circles faster, u turn and then u turn again faster, and be where you wanna be when facing more modern, and higher aoa fighting planes, shoot missiles at better angles, maneuver at low altitudes better, get on target against ground targets faster, and even evade baddie air defense sites even better. Imagine something crazier such as the added authority the F14 would have benefited from with TV. For instance, at high altitudes alone, whatever maneuver you need to make, the FBW would balance the wing's geometry and nozzle angles required to pull off practically any maneuver required at and speed or lack there of or especially at altitude! Your problem may just be a current lack of creativity within realistic possibilities of implementation, friend! 😁 and that's okay. 💯

  • @King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia
    @King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia3 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised no video has been officially released of the H.A.R.V. or that heavily modified F-15 doing HOA maneuvers.

  • @Maximum_777
    @Maximum_7773 ай бұрын

    5:08, I bet you this was the inspiration behind the thrust vectoring nozzle design of a fictional fighter jet called the CFA-44 Nosferatu.

  • @HenryKlausEsq.
    @HenryKlausEsq.3 ай бұрын

    Another slam-dunk video.

  • @edutaimentcartoys
    @edutaimentcartoys3 ай бұрын

    awesome

  • @mab2187
    @mab21873 ай бұрын

    Many people are calling it F-18 when the proper designation is F/A-18. IK I'm that pointing it out type of guy. I've seen the full vid. I meant even now quite many people say it as the F18.

  • @raafdocumentaries

    @raafdocumentaries

    3 ай бұрын

    Watch the video to find out why it's F-18 and not F/A-18.

  • @HenryKlausEsq.

    @HenryKlausEsq.

    3 ай бұрын

    2:52 my dude. It was a testbed aircraft for the Navy that was transferred to NASA before it received the F/A-18 designation. I'd recommend watching from 2:12 for the full picture.

  • @thelandofnod123

    @thelandofnod123

    3 ай бұрын

    I mean come on man, at 3.04 there is even a shot of the designation stencilled above 68L, so yeah, this was an F-18 not an F/A-18.

  • @mab2187

    @mab2187

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thelandofnod123 I've seen the full vid. I meant even now quite many people call the F/A-18 as the F18. As an e.g. of the top if my head, TopGun Maverick kept calling it as F18

  • @TheCodyLaxton
    @TheCodyLaxton3 ай бұрын

    Isn't this one parked in Mobile, Alabama now by the USS Alabama?

  • @xwngdrvr
    @xwngdrvr3 ай бұрын

    I regret that I have but one like to give...

  • @CaveDog420
    @CaveDog4203 ай бұрын

    in reality australian aviation history is all the same as US aviation history

  • @zorbakaput8537

    @zorbakaput8537

    3 ай бұрын

    No it isn't, though one could think that from the identity crisis the Channel name creates for itself.

  • @thelandofnod123

    @thelandofnod123

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, no.

  • @user-tg9qz2ul2k
    @user-tg9qz2ul2k29 күн бұрын

    F18 was begune as F17 Cobra by Northrop but lost to F 16 2 prototypes were use as fillmelising pilot's to F18

  • @cylesmith8291
    @cylesmith82913 ай бұрын

    "Silk Purse", bunch of boys in the desert...

  • @Peregrine1984
    @Peregrine19843 ай бұрын

    I think you're misrepresenting the cause of stalls. Aircraft wings stall at an AoA regardless of speed. I believe this gets confused with speed because as speed drops you obviously need to increase your AoA to maintain lift/altitude. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_attack#Critical_angle_of_attack

  • @raafdocumentaries

    @raafdocumentaries

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Geoff.

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