I dont think the "extraction" of heat energy from the working fluid by the turbine is causing he ice formation. You are expanding a fluid from a compressed state, this causes temperature to drop. I bet if you stalled the turbine and allowed the fluid to keep flowing through the turbine, it would have ice formation as well.

@yeahright3348

2 ай бұрын

Spot on.

You're my hero Jeremy! Keep it up

I think if you put a small fan on one end of the shaft and pointed it at a small radiator then run the ice cold exhaust into the radiator and use the radiator reservoir as the condenser or a sort of pre-heater before returning to the boiler you'd have a generator that also cools the air. I have plans for a high powered solar water boiler that should keep this turbine at a constant spin. Imagine a solar powered air conditioner that actually makes electricity while cooling the room. The hotter the sun gets the cooler the room gets ....it's worth a try.

@iEnergySupply

Жыл бұрын

Love the creative thoughts, I've thought the same things in the past. Ill be doing some experiments with the setup I had here but with my new genuine tesla turbine.

@captainKedger

Жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply the video where you show ice forming was using a single stage turbine. does the dual stage turbine also emit ice or just the single stage? I'm currently building a shop and the first project I plan to do in it is to make this turbine powered air cooler. Originally I was building one on my boat but local government was giving me a lot of hassle. I ended up selling the boat and moving to land so now I'm building a workshop to get this happening and I'd rather cool the room with this idea than just running power and an air conditioner on the grid power.

@captainKedger

Жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply and thank you for taking the time to respond

@iEnergySupply

Жыл бұрын

@@captainKedger I used compressed air with water in the same tank, then I heated the tank with a torch, when the water and compressed air decompressed the compressed air saturated with water and froze in the turbine. This was a dual stage turbine.

@captainKedger

Жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply very useful info. Air conditioning is one of the biggest drains of power so such a system could make a huge difference for the world if the concept can be proven to work.

Glad no body get hurt ,, what a great experiment.. Tesla turbine is a revolutionary idea with unlimited potential .

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah we won't quit until we finish.

@khalaf_stocks

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply keep it up . Good luck 🤞

3" wide turbine with 6" discs in center with a set of 9" diameter x 3" wide pumps pulling exhaust from both ends ...both pumps empty into a condenser coil (radiator) positioned at one end of the shaft...fix a fan to that end with shrouds to draw air in from between the fan and the rotor thereby cooling the turbine while cooling the room as well as preventing condensation on the discs...now feed the output of the heat exchanger back to your steam boiler you will have created a steam powered air conditioner which can have a dynamo on the opposite end making electricity.

Isto é incrivel!!!!!Parabéns meu amigo, Você é corajoso!!!! Som alucinante!!!!☺☺☺☺☺☺

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, the sound is beautiful :)

Якщо Ви виміряєте температуру повітря на вході турбіни та на виході - на виході температура буде нижча. Циклони обертаються охолоджуючи повітря.

try making dry ice with the compressor function, block the exit when using it in pump configuration, to force overheating and cooling

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

ill give it a try after I finish my current expiriments.

that's fucking impressive

I was waiting for the air speed and the speed of the wheel to synchronize, when that happens it will jump up like 30k rpm.

I think the heat from the bearings is preventing more ice from forming.

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

good observation, it may be.

This would give flight a whole new meaning ....

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

No kidding, and as a side effect of the high speed turbine we get gyroscopic stabilization in flight!

@David_Mash

3 жыл бұрын

That was the point of his turbine...

Could this setup be used for air conditioning?

Some of that speed transfer through a clutch and drive cars with air

Great job!!! I hope to see a monster condenser to get more efficiency Any ideas ???

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

For now old propane tanks have worked well, just have to be aware that after long time use the water will rust the tank, but it will only implode so not much danger there. It would be nice to treat the inside of the propane tanks to eliminate corrosion. Also we may not need a condenser if we can achieve enough vacuum with the turbine pump combo made of metal.

@millanferende6723

7 ай бұрын

I am not 100% sure what this is about, but another Tesla inventor/replicator Charlie Solis used a beer keg and it even withstood a vacuum. They are designed for liquids, so will withstand water. @@iEnergySupply

Whats crazy is this can be applied to industrial waste steam/heat and generate lots of more energy

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

You are correct.

@theoneshot236

2 жыл бұрын

so the idea is to use waste to create more energy?

@PHM_Tech

2 жыл бұрын

@@theoneshot236 yes

Did you ever try to use hot air ore co2 ? What wuld hapen to the out put? Did you try to use the tesla turbine somthing similar to gears and levers?

love to see the resonance on that... do you guys know what's the resonant frequency of your turbine?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

the turbine actually is designed for many different frequency/speeds. We are still learning about what was going on with the oscillations of the gauges. It could have been a mistake on our hand, might have been from the rotor vibrating through the table.

Hi jeremia, how much steam pressure at the inlet to be able to spin up a 0.3hp water pump

What torque can you get out of it using a 5 lps 12v bildge pump.?

A layman here, with an inquisitive mind.. In all my research I have yet to find anybody who calculate effeciency by dividing total work produced by total energy used. Also your icing issue is most likely cause by the cooling of the air as it is released from the nozzle. A dryer before your compressor should help that. Does anyone have any links to sites where actual efficiency is discussed? I find it hard to believe that if the Tesla turbine has such potential that there are none available for commercial use.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

We are getting the equipment and time due to our support to give all these numbers! Soon my friend!

@amirmoezz

3 жыл бұрын

You may find Jeff Hayes video which discuss the practical efficiency for a single stage, which is incredible, there are two main reasons that this turbine is not being used, first it produces power only at a specific rpm, second factories for generations focused on other types of engine such as piston type and frankly cause they already making money then why they should spend it on something that they have to build from scratch, financially it's not beneficial to the factory.

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

@@amirmoezz Dual Stage is the key.

@amirmoezz

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply You might be right though, also for sure there are people and engineers who are smarter and way more knowledgeable about these issues, I doubt it if it was that easy. But again I do not have neither the brain nor the enough knowledge to judge this, unless someone try this we can not know.

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

@@amirmoezz I did it, see video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f597o62qd5XXprg.html Also we have tons of cold steam testing on the way. We tested it yesterday and got 20k rpm on less then 170 degree water. Generator testing on 220 degrees on the way!

In wasn't looking for an ice maker, How much torque do you develop to drive a vehicle or equipment as an independent motor?

RPM is one thing, torque is what matters.

@citizendc9

2 жыл бұрын

Torque could be increased through gearing. What are your thoughts ?

At 5:37 you say "I want to cut a star washer, or a star blade." May I ask why? Is that what we see through the glass at this time-frame?

siiickkkk

Humm, i am not so sure about the efficiency of the turbine is related to forming ice Based on my understanding, when compressed air get released to the normal pressure, it expends, which takes heat energy to satisfy the gained potential energy of the gas, that's what causing the ice to form, right?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

The air is decompressing into a lower pressure from the pump, also it has a converging diverging nozzle that increases velocity of the incoming particles. It usually takes high pressure to have vapor freeze from decompression. We got it to freeze at only 14 psi with a temperature of over 140 degrees f.

@JasonWGamingnProd

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply oh wow, thanks for the explanation, now i see why you would say it is efficient. I have learnt something new!

If you're making ice by turning steam into motion you've invented the recipe for a steam powered air conditioner. Such a device would eliminate an enormous amount of pollution from power hungry air conditioners.

@captainKedger

2 жыл бұрын

Now use parabolic reflectors with thin water tubing inside a solar oven with a fresnel lens domed over the top to catch sun from all angles and you have a solar steam generator.

What efficiency?

try inserting it into the PMG power generator shaft.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what you mean.

if You can remove the outdoor condenser,the hydraulic circuit will be simplified. However, will it be possible to have the same efficiency by using the 2-stages of the Tesla turbine inside your sealed Makrolon tank ? Today, I am impatient to know the rest of your research and progress... No doubt, R&D is the key Congratulations

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Yes when the vacuum stage is powerful enough we can drill a hole in the condenser of considerable size with little to no effect on the vacuum gauge.

Congrats... you discovered the adiabate expansion... I'd really think about what's wrong if it would NOT cool down!

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

adiabatic expansion happens when you decompress a fluid but the question is why, and how much does it cool at what pressure. The reason you get the cooling effect is because the particles are being accelerated, the heat is transforming into kinetic energy as they accelerate and the velocity increases. When the particles preform work they cool. The degree in witch they cool here is amplified due to the lower pressure from the two pump stages on the exhaust of the turbine in the center. this example we are decompressing 120° Fahrenheit and at low pressures you normally don't get that much cooling. That shows we can extract more heat from the decompression due to increase in velocity of the particles as they exit the compressed tanks. In an adiabatic process, energy is transferred to the surroundings only as work.

@martinschwaikert5433

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply Sorry but that's wrong. Adiabatic decompression happens ALAWAYS if a process is running so fast, that no or little thermal excange to the environment may happen. this hat nothing to do with fluids. You can see that chilling / heating effect with a compressor. While compressing the air adiabatic it's temperature will rise hence the compressed air is getting warmer than the air temperature at the intake. If you use a blowing pistol and hold a thermometer in the air stream you'll see a temperature below room temperature. This effect can be amplified with devices - such as the vortex tube. Mine reaches at lest -25°C with 4 bar.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinschwaikert5433 4 bar is high pressure compared to what I show here, you can't get -25°C with a 0.96 bar supply can you? What temperature was your gas before it exited the nozzle? Mine was 48.8°C and it dropped to much less then 0°C at 0.96 Bar

@martinschwaikert5433

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply ok 1 bar in non-retarded units is really low. I do not disagree there are thermal transportation effects as you can find by using a vortex tube. But then i would not dare to give an explaination besides i'm up to get a noble prize

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinschwaikert5433 Thank you for you're insightful criticism.

Praying for David Hinkson that he one day we'll be able to join you with your trials

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

If only we could do something to help him, I hope one day I will get to work with him. Thank you for your comment about David.

Great turbine but you need compress air to run them completely impractical

Whats the torque on this thing??

Could you share the design of this is one that create ice?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

All of them create ice with the right conditions, the vacuum stages are the biggest reason. Ill be demonstrating soon. Also if you join our patreon, we have cad drawings coming soon with our best turbine desighn.

Instead of a just a divergent nozzle, if you use a convergent-divergent nozzle, the efficiency and output will he higher.

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

this was actually a converging divergent nozzle. Interestingly enough though, we achieved 1400 MPH periphery speed with a regular converging nozzle.

@thomascameron683

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply What's the input to output ratio?

Desalinization?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

That is one of it's uses.

Just a mechanic and oiler here. What are you using for bearings and lubricant? Do you have a fragment retention blanket?

@iEnergySupply

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't actually using any lubricant here.

What happened to this design?? Looks like this was the last video on it and then you guys switch to a regular Tesla turbine dual stage? I believe I'm more interested in this design of turbine to power it by solar steam.. ?? Please help. Did you guys give up on this design because you believed the dual stage Tesla turbine is more efficient? I like the potential torque output of this one to run a standard generator head. do the dual stage Tesla turbines have good torque as well? Or you have to have a different generator setup with low drag because the Tesla turbines are extreme high speed no torque? If you could give me any more information on this bladed turbine design I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks for all you guys do very impressive work!!

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Yeah we switched to tesla's bladeless design. The turbine is high speed medium torque. A high speed generator is a must for this size. More on the generator later.

Love it your on rite track but bearing and seals won't handle that speed think outside of box floating system and carbon graphite seals

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we are solving that problem with magnetic air bearing hybrid to have the only true levitating shaft ;)

@sidster64

5 жыл бұрын

in my opinion use babe bearing with oil lift you can heat oil by friction and get tight clearances to seal to much drag with extern magnetic levitating shaft and very difficult to make precision to rotating shaft but it's just simple to learn magnets right @@iEnergySupply

@sidster64

5 жыл бұрын

babbitt bearing

@sidster64

5 жыл бұрын

Babbitt bearing I think nikola Tesla would do

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

@@sidster64 Just finished my precision magnetic bearings, you'll have to see soon. They work extremely good.

What bearings do you use?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R3F5ZZP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

34k rpm let's go brandon

About reversing the tesla turbine as a pump/compressor: how much psi a tesla turbine powered by a high rpm electric motor can achieve within a closed chamber surrounding the turbine, taking air at ambient pressure from its central inlet?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Tesla has a patent more suited for compressed air, it's his earth quake machine/linear alternator. The Tesla pump is more suited for high volumes at lower pressures.

@fluxcapacitor

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply Seems quite a bigger and heavier design? But do you have the patent number of this thing so I can give a look at it? I asked because Tesla filed not one but two patents initially about his turbine design: the most known filed in 1911 is US Patent 1,061,206 (Turbine) to be used… as a turbine; but the other one filed the year before, US Patent 1,061,142 (Fluid Propulsion) is the turbine design to be used as a pump/compressor. I need a design to compress air at about 10 bars within a chamber enclosing the pump, and intake pressure must be ambient air pressure. Plus the device must be lightweight and compact enough and measure 15-20 cm in diameter. Device must compress air continuously as this compressed air in the chamber intentionally leaks outside of the chamber through a radial nozzle of very thin cross section, outputting a rapidly expanding supersonic flat thin air jet.

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

@@fluxcapacitor only problem is you would need a ridiculous rpm to get that much pressure. The most important thing he used his pump for was coupling it with the turbine to improve the turbine's performance. That kind of pressure would be possible with a multistage pump like in 179,043 Improved Process of and Apparatus for Production of High Vacua

@fluxcapacitor

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply Peter Harwood in _Further Investigations into Tesla Turbomachinery_ (November 2008), MECH4841 Mechanical Engineering project, SID:3046768, states at chapter 2.1 "Experimental Model" page 27, that a 20cm diameter Tesla turbine with 20 disks rotating at 20,000 rpm produces 20 bars.

Yea still pulled up too on my phone

@joshuaandersen5294

5 жыл бұрын

Oops that was not supposed to happen. I think this is happening on the ice issue. It comin in a vanturi of a carbator to ice . When if forced fed air for a turbo or supercharger. To combat this warm the turbin only to reduced ice. It might get rid of it all together.

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

We increased the temperature to 85 degrees, and the ice still formed, then we kicked it up to 120 degrees and just got water :) Edit: 120 degrees still ice, 140 = water

@cushionofair

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply are you running from an air compressor and how are you heating it ?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@cushionofair We empty-ed a propane tank, then compressed the propane tank with compressor, and finally we heated up the propane tank with a propane torch. We also put a small amount of water in the propane tank.

can't this work as a condenser to a steam cycle?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! We will be showing this soon.

how is your turbine different from the tesla turbine?

@iEnergySupply

2 жыл бұрын

blades instead of disks, however our new research shows the disks are more powerful at higher speeds. Please see our new videos.

Use a tesla turbine to separate gases based on boundary layer thickness, electric charge of plates, magnetism, etc?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, we are working with electrostatic next.

@handleismyhandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply great, I think there are a lot of possible ideas to try out. . . another I had is to use two turbines side by side in a single housing and use the centrifugal force to compress air for combustion without the need for a separate compressor, pm me with your email if you want a diagram of my idea. not sure if it will work, but I'm sure it could be made to work somehow

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@handleismyhandle We have been on that for a while now. Notime500@gmail.com for my personal email. Our main problem right now is funding for metal turbine.

@handleismyhandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply sent you the email just now. my old computer got fried by a leaky roof (the one spot that leaked was right on the laptop of course) but the hard drive was intact so I recovered my data. I would like to try and engineer a working model at some point, if done correctly, which would be very difficult, this might make a powerful turbine engine with no compression stage.

How can you measure efficiency without a load? How much potential power is produced? Not being a smarty, I literally don't know.

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

The rotor was grinding on the side walls at 35000 rpm, normally this would melt the rotor and cause it to bog down. Also the temperature difference between incoming air and inside the turbine were extreme, the more energy you extract from the fluid the colder it will become. The air was entering at 120 degrees with some water vapor and freezing inside the turbine. After eleven prototypes this is the greatest temperature differential we have ever achieved, it is even more efficient then a single stage Tesla turbine.

@tommcewan7936

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply but it's not producing a useful work output. It could behave radically differently under load, and that's the efficiency figure that matters.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@tommcewan7936 When doing r&d people like to see updates on the project before it's finished. In the near future I will be preforming these tests. For now its the working principals and fundamentals of the behaviors we observed that point in the the direction we are headed. I don't know the exact reference but Nikola Tesla talks about the fact that when a fluid imparts energy to an object, it cools. Because we have done many experiments and built many turbines in the past we observed that the more powerful turbines have a cooling effect, and this is the greatest we have ever cooled the fluid by imparting it's energy to the rotor.

@bonguy3461

4 жыл бұрын

measure torque by rotations per min or rpms 360,000

@edmundzed9870

2 жыл бұрын

Neither do they!

You must put load to calculate efficiency.

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

The load was the rotor scraping against the side walls of the turbine at high speed, and also the reason the rotor exploded.

@etherealrose2139

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply In other words, a useless load that no one can use. I don't see it popping out icecubes for my maragrita so it even fails at that. How about attaching a generator head to it?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@etherealrose2139 Watch my other videos.

RIP my ears.

@aggabus

4 жыл бұрын

RPMing to

Are you still selling turbines?

Do they work with steam???

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

we had 120 degree water vapor and air entering, we could have turned up the heat on the incoming gas quite a bit , it would have increased the power and decreased the freezing. I don't know if you want to use pure steam, we would have to see with this nozzle how effective it would be in auto cooling. If it was a metal turbine it would be perfect.

Does Iit have torque so you can run a car on it?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Tesla claimed that a larger engine of the same design installed at the New York Edison Company’s Waterside station made 200hp off of 125 pounds of steam pressure, and that he could develop engines that would weigh between one and four pounds per horsepower. He later revised his estimates upward to 10 horsepower to the pound. However, this target is a little vague, based on the weights of the two engines as reported in The Automobile: 20 pounds for the 110hp engine and 400 pounds for the 200hp engine. The 110hp engine likely weighed 200 pounds (1.82 pounds per horsepower; otherwise it would be 5.5 horsepower per pound). Either way, the focus on weight versus output leads one to believe that Tesla was also eyeballing the engine for use in airplanes, as has been suggested elsewhere.

@bonguy3461

4 жыл бұрын

torque is measured by rpm

@bonguy3461

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply replying to wrong person. reply to anxiety channel it was his question.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Power = torque x rpm/5252. So if your rpm is say 20000 and your torque is 5, you have more power then if your torque is 20000 and your rpm is 1. The actual equation is HP = Torque x RPM ÷ 5252

Was denkt Ihr über magnetische Lagerung ?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what you mean by magnetic storage. Can you please elaborate?

@electricusinterruptus6302

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply Entschuldige bitte, dass ich deutsch schreibe, aber mein technisch bezogenes Englisch lässt doch eher zu wünschen übrig. Ich kann nur hoffen, dass Google oder wer auch immer, Alles richtig übersetzt. Also : In Deinem Video sieht es so aus, als ob der Rotor auch auf Grund der Überforderung der Lager kaputt geht. Deshalb mein Vorschlag, mit magnetischen Lagern zu arbeiten. Der Rotor würde sich dann selbst auswuchten und stabilisieren und es wären extrem hohe Drehzahlen möglich. Was die Vereisung betrifft, ist dieser Vorgang im Video schwer nachzuvollziehen. Hast Du da noch ein paar Info`s darüber. Vielen Dank, dass Du auf meinen Kommentar geantwortet hast. Viel Grüße, Tino

I saw turbine who run more than 70k RPM ... Start slow till reached 50k RPM then changed sound and become super sonic to 70k RPM less tham 1 secound

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

please see our latest supersonic run, it jumps 90k rpm in a split second.

Hello, if I want to buy one from you, it is possible. Thank you for answering.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

We are starting our testing and need to tune everything up before we will be selling any turbines.

@om6859

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply I will probably need two or four if you please let me know the average price and delivery time after the final test if possib

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@om6859 If you would send an email to ienergysupply@gmail.com we can archive the message so that we can send you quote when we are ready.

I found the best heat engine

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Empirical data is happening :-)

Sounds just like an "airplane" starts the engines. Compressed air engines not fuel engines lol Oh and might explain "ice on the wings" 👍

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

Fuel can be burned inside a combustion chamber to produce the same effect though.

What is the rpm 17k?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

ha?

Can, How Much and how can you harvest electric energy from it ? in some other video ?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

I show a small amount of energy being created in this another video, here is a link. In the future we will be generating much more energy. studio.kzread.info-MPrytDmFow/edit

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@Cameron Dierking I have another video showing the heat from the bearings caused by friction is actually converted into motive force. It was surprising to us when we noticed it happening. You're absolutely right about the fact that you can't get more then 100% But is more then 100% efficiency really that important? Here is the video, this is surprising because normally any energy lost due to the friction of the bearings can't be recovered and in our case it can. So 98% efficiency is really not that far fetched. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKaJs7Wek5STfLg.html

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@Cameron Dierking Good thinking there!

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@Cameron Dierking Yeah That is what the solar energy is for lol. Also we have moved past using compressed air as we have found a better way to store the energy. Water is a extremely good option for storing energy. Using heat panels from the sun, we will be able to heat large quantities of water efficiently, and can then use that heat energy to run the turbine.

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@Cameron Dierking Ok I see where you're going, but we aren't trying to create free energy here, and The 100% efficiency number came right from Nikola Tesla's patent. I believe it is possible to convert 100% of an energy source to another form of energy. Energy can't be created or destroyed but it can be 100% converted to a different form don't you think? So another note here, most people talk about one of the biggest reasons you can't reach 100% efficiency is because of friction losses, but if friction causes heat and that heat can be converted into motive force, then you can recover that energy loss, so theoretically you can convert that 2% loss and go from 98% efficiency to 100% I guess this is in a perfect world ha?

if a gigantic tesla turbine will be created. Will it be able to use in dams and rotate by water force? instead of air

@iEnergySupply

2 жыл бұрын

yes, but this system is for converting cold steam into energy.

@zavian4443

2 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply like how? can briefly describe it ? i just don't getting it that why we can't use it for production of electricity

Could this handle steam?

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

It loves steam! Turns it into water!

@mattdonahue9516

5 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply i was searching for a tesla turbine in the interest of reclaiming some energy potentially lost in a future solar thermal system.what you're developing is blowing my mind!thanks!is there a pressure drop from inlet to outlet? what is the temp range of the output water?

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

@@mattdonahue9516Unfortunately we didn't take temperature readings in turbine, other then the input, we got ice to form at 120 degrees . We now have a laser thermometer that we hope will get readings of the exhaust. The hard part to get this reading has been trying not to interrupt laminar flow inside the turbine. the although We do know it was extremely cold to the hand. In the future we will have this information. Thank you for being interested and good luck with your system.

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

pressure drop was from about 80 psi to 29 psi With pressure reducer valve.

@fbi4236

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply can we make a full cycle system with it? a heat source - turbine - condenser - heat source something like that???

Probably a stupid question but how efficient would this thing be as an air conditioner?

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

Actually that's a good question, and it depends on how much energy you use, the more energy you use, the cooler you'll make the room. If Nikola Tesla is correct, we should be able to run this thing on ambient air, he claims 100% efficiency with his vacuum patent installed, as far as I know know-one else has tested this theory, and we plan to have the entire prototype built in a couple weeks. The difference between this prototype and our new prototype will be the propulsion patent and the vacuum patent. On our next prototype we will have it exactly as Nikola Tesla intended which is the Turbie coupled with vacuum.

@tomfommber

5 жыл бұрын

God I would love to know the answer to this. When you say ambient air what does that mean exactly?

@tomfommber

5 жыл бұрын

Also, totally looking forward to the new unit!

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomfommber Ambient air typically refers to outdoor air, but I mean the air we breathe.

@tomfommber

5 жыл бұрын

I Energy Supply so running a compressor to run a scaled up version of this would qualify?

where is the ice? in the turbine?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I have it bookmarked here. Just click the link. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lWmC3Kqvd9u6o9Y.html

@ScaniaFung

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply what power source in this model?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScaniaFung This was water vapor and compressed air.

Hello sir! Where can i get the design for free??

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

I have them on my patreon. Patreon.com/ienergysupply

@resadindipa2369

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply sorry 😐 Where can I get design for FREE?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

@@resadindipa2369 If I give it away for free I won't be able to continue r&d very well.

How is this a variant of the original i the only difference is hot humid air, and how are we supposed to guess the efficiency by looking at rpm

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

This is a variant because the air spirals around to the center of the exhaust, just like the Tesla Turbine. We also have 2 propulsion patents on the exhaust on both sides, this is our twist, as well as having curved blades instead of disks. We now have a 5 disk turbine modeled exactly as his latest turbine patent. It is a rule of thumb, the greater the reduction in temperature the higher the efficiency. We will be showing more to prove this, as well as temperature drop from inlet to exhaust. The temperature at inlet was 120 F and exhaust was below freezing.

@jmister28

5 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply Hi, I think that this technology would be really good in a rocket engine turbo pump. The turbo pump is pump driven by a turbine and the turbine is powered by 1000 degree (F) gas so I think it would work well. Also, could you post a tutorial on how to build one of these?

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

​@@jmister28 Your absolutely correct, in the future we will build an aluminum prototype that will handle the temperatures required. We plan to make DIY videos in the future, at the moment we are rapid prototyping to get the best design, so it will be well worth the wait. Basically we will end up with a new pulse jet engine to fuel the turbine to power the propulsion patent for flying. We also plan to fuel the pulse jet engine with garbage atomized by plasma via high voltage discharges.

Max rpm speed plz

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

See my newest video, my supersonic run.

I get this message when i go to your website : ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning. Try another browser, we had this happen in the past.

That is not a tesla turbine. It is just an impeller turbine

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

It's a Tesla turbine variant like it says in the title. The fluid spirals around to the center of the exhaust space, also there are two Tesla pumps, one on either side of the turbine. We recently finished the genuine Tesla Turbine as I've become more skilled the rotor construction. Here is the link kzread.info/dash/bejne/nGt4sK2Co8eoisY.html

What exactly you are doing? I don't understand, you are restricting the air flow and creating vacuum? I want to understand what you actually do

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

I have a vacuum pump stage on the exhaust of the turbine. The vacuum pump stage sucks back pressure from the exhaust of the turbine and is powered by the turbine. In the development of power by thermodynamic prime movers, as steam engines and turbines, a low back pressure is essential to good economy, the performance of the machine being increased from fifty to one hundred per cent, by reducing the absolute pressure in the exhaust space from fifteen to about one pound per square inch.

@brenomarcilio1549

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply ok but you are using compressed air? The valve restricts the flow?

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@brenomarcilio1549 The valve isn't used in this demonstration yet, we have it on the way. Right now we created the pulse detonation engine to be used in-conjunction with cold steam and a dual stage Tesla turbine.

@brenomarcilio1549

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply I'm talking about the ball valve on the line that you turns during the video

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

@@brenomarcilio1549 110-120 psi before nozzle that enters turbine.

why is tesla turbine not in use in many real life application? i wonder why?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it's too simple and efficient. We would use less fuel and that's bad for oil companies.

extremely wut? "Turbine efficiency is the ratio of actual work output of the turbine to the net input energy supplied in the form of fuel. "

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

You will have to wait and see the load tests, stay tuned. To understand the projected capabilities you need to understand how energy is converted from heat to usable energy. The more heat you extract the more energy you produce. The work being done here is the rotor scraping on the side of the casing, and working through the ice build up. The reason the rotor exploded is because it was grinding the walls of the casing at high frequencies. Thank you for your comment.

@karabinjr

5 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply well i am as embarrassed as you probably think i should be. youtube comments spirit got me. i'm but a man

@karabinjr

5 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply i am as embarrassed as you probably think i should be the spriti of youtube comments got me i'm but a man sometimes i talk when not talking is totally an option and must be carefully considered =)

This is actually not a Tesla Turbine. Its just a normal Turbine.

@iEnergySupply

2 жыл бұрын

agreed.

Huh? The compressed air from the compressor is expanding and dropping the temperature in the turbine. Nothing to do with the turbine. A deodorant can does the same thing. SMH

@crackedemerald4930

3 жыл бұрын

a deodorant doesn't use compressed air though, it uses some hydrocarbons pressurised so much they stay liquid. that turbine was running at like, 15psi, with wet air.

@iEnergySupply

2 жыл бұрын

The turbine drops the temperature even further then it would without the turbine due to the lower pressure created by the second stage.

beware head phone users

If these Tesla ever shatter someone's goin to get seriously injured if not

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

the new turbine's don't have enough clearance to stretch and shatter. they just make sparks.

you use/lose energy by removing heat. Why not to use sterling engine to actually use the heat? I think that's what he meant by removing the energy. It's not more efficient when running cold. You get ice crystals because of decompression of the gas. It's BS. Running more RPM has little in common with a load efficiency anyway

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Heat is energy, the more heat you remove from the fluid in motion, the more energy you extract. Here is an example, when a steam engine runs, it removes only a small amount of heat from the steam, and therefore it is less efficient. This is seen by temperature of the exhaust, the steam enters at a very high temperature, and exits at a high temperature, steam goes in, and steam comes out. What you need is steam to go in, and water to come out. If you have a steady stream of water exiting the engine, you know you are running at more efficient levels. Running at higher rpm = higher energy output. It is like amps and volts with electricity. Speed of the rotor = volts and amps = torque. If you have 500 volts and 2 amp, you have more energy then 1v at 500 amps. This means at higher speeds you don't need to draw as much torque from the rotor to get the same amount of power output/watts. 500v x 2 amps = 1000w Dc where as 1v x 500 amps only equals 500 watts. Rpm or speed of the rotor has a direct effect on the efficiency of in this situation.

@trollmcclure1884

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply no, steam generators must be pre-heated. When you run water from exhaust it's less efficient. It's the pressure what's providing power - lower temp=lower pressure. That's why they have cooling towers - you need a pressure differential. Yes the heat is energy and it should be used other than pre-heating the water or heating buildings but cooling down turbine or something does no good

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

​@@trollmcclure1884 When you say "When you run water from exhaust it's less efficient. " I think you mean, when water is produced in your exhaust from water vapor/steam, the turbine gets less efficient, That is simply not true and I will do my best to explain why. When you decompress a pressurized fluid it cools, you are correct. The reason that it cools is because the heat is being given up to velocity, and the particles begin to move in almost uniform velocity while their kinetic energy is increased ready to do work. They lose their kinetic energy afterwards by doing some form of work. The more work you that the particles do, the colder they become. Only when you're efficiency is high enough will you cool it down below ambient temperatures. Gay-Lussac's Law: The Pressure Temperature Law. This law states that the pressure of a given amount of gas held at constant volume is directly proportional to the Kelvin temperature. As the pressure goes up, the temperature also goes up, and vice-versa. This only applys when you trap the fluid in a container, then when you change the temperature, you change the pressure. If it is already pressurized and at room temperature, it is possible to extract energy When you say"- lower temp=lower pressure." It doesn't apply in every case, For example outside I have an air tank, not related to this system, it has 120 PSI air/atmosphere, and it's 30°F , Inside I have another tank at 87 °F but the pressure is only 20 PSI. The tank outside has a higher pressure and is colder then the tank inside that has lower pressure and is only 87°F.

@trollmcclure1884

4 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply It's not complicated. You dont wanna lose pressure/temperature before it does the work inside a cylinder against the low atmospheric pressure outside a cylinder. Here is a beautiful WW2 steam engine from a ship. They knew it has less horse power when it's cold solarhomestead.com/our-steam-engine-battery-charger/

If what you are saying is happening is actually happening then hook this up to a generator and a heat pump and you've solved the world's energy needs. Or am I nuts?

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

That's what we are doing. With our latest testing Ill be proving this.

@jeffjefferson3364

3 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply I'm really looking forward to seeing this. You get that it's hard to believe though right? If you have this tech we're talking the largest breakthrough in anything ever. It's just hard to fathom that if I buy one of these machines I can have energy forever.

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

​@@jeffjefferson3364 Thanks! Yeah it's hard to believe, it's coming together, there have been many challenges but we are solving them :) Thanks to everyone who has supported us.

@theoneshot236

2 жыл бұрын

@@iEnergySupply can you really simplify what is going on here? I`m totally new to this channel. Is is like.. by generating power you are getting lower temperatures than higher? Which would be miracle device? For example if heated CPUs could cooled themselves down, it will be a game changer. I was thinking about holy grail as chemical when electricity is being presented then it would cool down itself, is it what is kind of going on here, but without any electricity?

@clintondcosta

2 жыл бұрын

@@theoneshot236 this can be used to create electricity, steam to rotational mechanical energy, and since he’s using a vacuum, water doesn’t need to be boiled to super heated steam levels, plus teslas turbine was a highly efficient machine at faster speeds which means all the hot steam energy gets converted to ice, combustion engines are max 30-40% efficient

This is not a Tesla turbine

@iEnergySupply

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct, it's a Tesla turbine variant, like it says in the title.

Get behind a safety screen 🙄+safety glasses……..

So is it possible to live off the air we breath. Directly turning gases into energy. Breathrians.

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure exactly what your asking but its interesting. Here is a response. In the future I believe this would be possible, although I think it would need to be turned into electrical energy and fed into a feed back loop that amplifies our energy singles it receives then sends the power into the body via frequency matching so we can live on the extra energy we received from the output of the turbine. I don't know.

@iEnergySupply

5 жыл бұрын

Or we can use it to power a greenhouse all year long, and eat the food we receive from the plants that the energy allows to grow.

just another scammer

@iEnergySupply

4 жыл бұрын

Just another troll.

Rotors exploding when there is friction. Where friction takes place, there is not such efficiency to create ice from water vapors. You are a total clickbaiter.

@iEnergySupply

2 жыл бұрын

When someone gains experience, they improve their design.