It’s incredible to see the thought and engineering that goes into these machines, regardless of brand!

I think Cole forgot about all the problems they had the first year with the Case. I also think it is a learning curve for the John Deere and 50 hours isn't that long. After all it took almost 2 years to get the Case dialed in where they liked it. That first year they with the case they had so many problems with break downs and loss. However, the man knows what he likes, you can't fault him for that. Seriously each brand has its own good points and bad points. No one brand is better or worse than the other. I operated Deere, Case, Massey, New Holland they all have their own good and bad points.

@stoneshrink

Жыл бұрын

hmm, but maybe you forgot this was the 2nd John Deere combine. Seems to me that's kind of a wash - but if really we want to be honest, that would mean John Deere wasn't even in the game. And sure, 'supply issues' but supply issues is euphemism to "company thought they could save money by outsourcing; thus, this "supply issues" totally their fault."

@knoxreichling6841

Жыл бұрын

U see there all good but nh Is best

@connorhemenway8967

Жыл бұрын

@@stoneshrink they all break down

@stoneshrink

Жыл бұрын

@@connorhemenway8967 I completely agree - but it seems the person who wrote the original comment didn't remember that....

@stakman78

Жыл бұрын

That used to be so but all we've seen is the build quality of the red ones is down the tube, just look at Ivers this year, they bought 2 brand new 9250s and had major issue's all season, they ended up with 3 different combines on loan to get done, the Deere is still built to a lot higher standard.

The editing just gets better and better. Very informative.

I'm a 62 year old woman who has never run any type of equipment, although I've been around all types of logging equipment (my late husband's business). You kept my attention and did a great job explaining all this. A+ Cole!

@ccole9080

Жыл бұрын

im a 99 year old great great great grandpa and I drive a CCC cement mixer up and down Ventura Blvd in my skiveys on Thursday afternoons in May , wanna meet up for coffee and a bite to eat at the 7 11 ?

@jzlharvey

Жыл бұрын

Dude has the Facebook boomer market cornered.

BTW: We like Scott from TITAN TIRE. Darn nice guy, knowledgeable and always leaves a big imprint where ever his tires roll.

@iamtheonenonly250

Жыл бұрын

but isn't he trying to avoid leaving big imprints 🤔

@therealhellkitty5388

Жыл бұрын

10/10 Scott is a great dude and he always brings pizza!

@StrikeReyhi

Жыл бұрын

@@iamtheonenonly250 it's just because he leaves a bigger imprint than the tires do

Red, green, purple or lavender. I’d like to tip my hat to all the engineers, designers and other brainiacs who are responsible for these marvels of modern technology. The capabilities of these machines are crazy! They can steer themselves, pick your crop, remove kernels from cobs (or beans from pods), determine the yield, spit & spread trash out the back, etc., etc. All while you are cool & comfy in the cab. And if that weren’t impressive enough, they look pretty cool in drone shots, too! Kudos to anyone who has a hand in designing & creating these fantastic beasts!

@shawnwildt3360

Жыл бұрын

Hats off to the technology for sure… engineers could of put a few ideas in to make them easier to work on for Joe’s like me.

@destroyedsoul1791

9 ай бұрын

Which ones are purple & lavender?

For the case funnels, just press on them and set the sensitivity. You'd change the sensitivity per the crop you're doing and possibly even conditions you're in. That scales what it shows you per the colors.

I work in the auto industry and have always wanted to know how a combine works as they amaze me. I learned a huge amount. My father worked in the auto industry in Europe and for years supplied a tractor-maker. The fact that auto steer is something like 40+years old was one of the things that blew my mind about farming. I regret not following my dream and giving agricultural college a go. What I'd give to drive a Case IH today...!

I’m a firm case ih fan but you did a great job of pointing out both sides pros and cons. It was also very informative and interesting. Good job

@SenselessUsername

9 ай бұрын

I expected at the "maintenance/repairs" part there to be a strike against Deere for trying to stop self-repairs? Making downtimes and ginormous trips to authorised dealers inevitable? I mean the right-to-repair case against Deere was won last January, but it's the same juggernaut run by the same people; I'd be very wary. [Not running any equipment myself so it's second- thirdhand opinions, hence I ask.]

This was really well done. Kept my attention all the way through.

Very interesting - thank you for taking the time and effort to run through the detailed comparison Cole.

Thank you for making this video. Very well thought out and executed. Extremely informative and yet still very entertaining.

As somebody who was around 1660s, 2366s, and 2388s, the amount of room and luxuries in those cabs blows my mind. In the 1660 I was around you were lucky if the AC even worked. It didn't have the beeper to warn when the bin was full. The 23's did but still didn't have all those amenities.

@williamcorleu5839

9 ай бұрын

You must have seen a lot broke down too They are 2 of them around here and they stay Broke down an that's ant because I don't like them it's just that u can't see one run very long

@LMDProductionsOfficial

9 ай бұрын

@@williamcorleu5839 actually the ones I was around didn’t break down much at all. I can count about four major incidents over the course of 10 years

Very nicely done Cole!

This was a very thorough and meticulous. It kind of describes you Cole. You spent a lot of time filming and editing this. Thanks.

I'm a noob video game farmer and loved every second of this! You did a fantastic job and I appreciate how many hours it actually took to make this. Thank you.

I was raised with Green and I couldn’t agree more with your final conclusion. If they melted these two machines together just like you stated, it would be the perfect machine.

The spreader on the Deere folds right up out of the way. So once you put a hitch on, towing a trailer is no worries

Outstanding job of comparing these 2 combines

Awesome Content Cole! A very fair review and comparison of both machines IMHO. Probably one of your longest videos, and one of the most interesting.

Great overview of both machines but comparing anything 2014 to 2021 is not apple's to apple's. I'd be curious to see what a 21 case looks like

@Muffin_Masher

Жыл бұрын

THIS! Some red dealer is surely watching this and needs to come to the party next season :P The colour really doesn't matter these days, they all work, and they all break down, the most important thing is how well your dealer looks after you, and with the treatment the Cornstars are getting from VanWall you couldn't blame them if they turned the whole farm green :D

@bzs187

Жыл бұрын

@@Muffin_Masher Yep, what is really matter to us, farmers is which is the closest dealer that we have a good relationship is. The color is just a second thing in this matter.

@VorlMaldor

Жыл бұрын

agreed, in terms of tech, that's a few generations..

@tonyracine4952

Жыл бұрын

I can tell ya right now that the new cases put the older ones to shame, lots of good upgrades!

@joefudd

Жыл бұрын

The Case was the 2014 I believe?

COOPER deserves a raise and have his pick of red or green!

@ChevyC-hf6km

Жыл бұрын

Especially when he doesn't have to pay a dime to use the green equipment for the season.

Fun comparison! It's amazing how similar some of the things on each machine are, and then how many are so different. I learned a lot and I don't even farm.

Thought, Time and Effort went into this. Well done Cole. I watched the whole thing!

One thing I noticed watching these videos all year is it seemed like something went wrong on the case almost every episode.

@LtColDaddy71

Жыл бұрын

True, but the case is a 2014. The previous owner got rid of it right before all those mid life hassles popped up. They made it through it though. Things should smooth out. That’s why a 2014 is 200k cheaper.

@jerodengblom4331

Жыл бұрын

Or when cole priced the 9250’s they were all 2nd when comparing 4wd machines new vs old

@nick4506

Жыл бұрын

it is well used. they are deep into the regular mantince period of that thing. but the deer is in its brand new mechiene honeymoon before you gotta start replacing stuff.

@pmphone2057

Жыл бұрын

They got a Lemon. I wish they had of compared the s790 with the 9230, both being class 9. It seems the Larsons and Millenial favor the green machines for harvest. Would have been more interesting if they had went a little more empirical . Speculative ratings are tough.

@jackbannock3458

Жыл бұрын

@Pm Phone Larsons and Zacks channels are sponsored by Deere, thats why they sound like they love them. Plus the dealers are 15min or so away from their farms.

The Deere back chopper opens real easy with a rocker switch

@rustysimms5583

Жыл бұрын

That's right

Great comparisons! Enjoyed the video as always!

@jimbroderick2732

Жыл бұрын

And still awaiting the winner…. Lol

@jimbroderick2732

Жыл бұрын

When watched it all. Tie!

Great job on the video Cole!! Very detailed!

I have owned both these combines over the last 8 years. 3 case 9230 then 3 790 JD. I think you did an excellent job at comparing. Nailed it. Technology on JD is amazing. Simplicity, grain quality, setting on case are awesome. Just waiting for case to come out with something comparable to the x9!🤞

@shoresharp8349

Жыл бұрын

They have new Holland twin rotors . Check them out lol.

@kevinlillico48

Жыл бұрын

@@shoresharp8349 We have looked at New Holland twin rotors. But we have a poor dealership in our area. Dealership support is important to us!

@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinlillico48 the class 9 new Holland is a bad boy! But where they have good dealers they thrive pretty good... same thing for a claas...cause I’d run either if had good service here... But I’m partial to my 8230 also!..

Wonderful day when Cole posts.

Good video and interesting seeing how these machines work. My place borders 200 acres and they grow either corn or cotton. They have an attachment for cotton that drops the huge round bails which is cool to watch. Being simple to operate is open for debate…I’m still trying to cipher the new radio controls in my truck.

Great job Mr. Cole. Enjoyed every min. of the movie.

Can never go wrong with Green

There is a switch to raise the tail board. You can pull header trailers with a John Deere’s as well

AMAZING video, you covered everything that people never talk about on these machines.

Thank you for this complete review!

Really appreciate the time you put into this comparison video! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

It’s almost like one is simple and from 2014 and one is super technical from 2021. One being easier to work on, and one more complicated with more capabilities. I wonder if you had the newer case if things would be more hidden or technical? Just curious.

@rickchristianson3536

Жыл бұрын

Red will still be just red, there is reason Mercedes & Chevy are both at the auto mall.

WOW!! That was quite an indepth analysis!

Well done Cole. That is a lot of hours that went into this!

I know it will get a lot of laughs, would love to see a side by side of a Gleaner S98, yep it’s just a Class 8 due to less horse power but there’s a reason it needs less horse power to due the same job. Also would have been nice to see fuel consumption between the Case & Deer, unless I missed it. Maybe do a Gleaner next year since 2023 is its 100th Anniversary. Also the new larger Cases come with a different monitor & also have new Auto Control settings for Adjusting settings, most agree that using auto control on the 9250 is equal to or better then the most experienced operator.

When it comes to price, there is no such thing as a cheap combine!

@joshuabrown2543

Жыл бұрын

Nope or a better one

@timnichols9015

Жыл бұрын

My cheapest machine- International 1480, bought in 2006 for $9500, put $2500 in repairs, sold in 2011 for $7500. Total acres ran through it was 2500. Less than $2/A (plus fuel and lubricants)

@Lightning613

Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@tommathews3964

Жыл бұрын

walt66a right you are, but you want real heart failure, spec out a new Deere CP770 cotton picker. Time we got ours like we wanted it, it was 1.1 million. It's being built now. We did get a nice trade in number on the 2019 CP690 though.

@joshuabrown2543

Жыл бұрын

@@tommathews3964 that is ridiculous

Like he said they all break so pick your color and be happy with it!

This seems like like the old F-150/ Silverado debate. Each has their pluses and minuses, but, you like what you like.

Thank You for our wonderful comparison. Very enjoyable

Outstanding job. Especially the lead-in black & white video

Cole both red combines you found to match the price for case are both 2 wheel drive and that surly changes the price and I’m assuming tue deere has 4 wheel drive so that’s not a fair price comparison, other than that good video!

Maybe you should review a top of the line John deere cab and seats as well

Thank you for your tour of both machines

Excellent presentation, covers all the items which really matter.

If this comparison would have been done after your first fifty hours with your Case combine, which one would have won?

Cole you forgot the biggest technology on the 2021 Case is the afs self learning tech is a huge bonus for the combine. Triple R farms has a new 8250 and he was blown away by the tech and self adjustment his Case performance is awesome. BTW he has all Deere tractors and a ago sprayer he has all the colors.

@lmsendit9531

Жыл бұрын

But don't leave out his brand new combine did not even have 3 hours on it when the rotor up inside it blew up and they had to take it to the company and replace it

Cole you did it. I would love for Chet or any green farmer do the same comparison. Time to get all the color together Cole.

I liked the final franken-combine graphic. Great way to make the CASE that nothing is perfect and any combine comes with tradeoffs. The one thing I have heard over and over on these channels is how much farmers like the bigger JD grain storage.

@williamcorleu5839

Жыл бұрын

I love the John Deere combined that's all I want to run

Honestly I think the Case was at a disadvantage being several years older, but then they were more familiar with it and have added aftermarket addons. I would say JD is Apple and Case is Android.

@dantethunderstone2118

Жыл бұрын

From what I’ve heard Deere and Apple have the same right to repair policy- you don’t have it

@pmphone2057

Жыл бұрын

a fair comparison, apple doesnt play with anything other than apple, and has proprietary repair.

@kendall959

Жыл бұрын

And apple sucks

Well I think you should try other ones too. Like for example Claas. Those are incredibly popular here in Europe. Or New Holland for instance. Those are fine too. Once you stared reviewing combines in my opinion you should keep doing that. People will watch that gladly. And now I am curious how would a Gleaner look in comparision to the red one. Those look to be really simple and I think they are priced very well based on their simplicity and unique design.

@tjmfarming9584

Жыл бұрын

Oh Ho, talking about those grey ones are we? I’ve learned from experience going from an older case to a gleaner. I’ve never run corn with it, because it’s only ever cut Wheat, Barley, lupins and oats, but it’s definitely not standing a chance against the case 1. The feeder house is oddly small and offset compared to other combines, making compatibility with header fronts difficult 2. In order to work on the combine you need to open out the auger just to get to the covers and access points to the separators sivs and concave, plus you’d spend a lot longer opening up the ladder and lifting up the engine bay roof on the gleaner than you would for any other combine ever, the Deere in that regard is much much faster. Case hands down wins in my opinion

@MarcinRC6070

Жыл бұрын

@@tjmfarming9584 I never had a chance to even laid my eyes on one of them gleaners since they are not available here in Europe but I saw one on youtube the other day and I immediatly noticed the odd feeder house. As far as I know some of the older Fendts had thar feature too and Gleaner is a part og AGCO so the feature might be directly copied from the older fendt models. And I am a bit concerned about the overall quality of the combine. Those are AGCO products and seeing how terrible are those new Ideals I can't imagine that AGCO is using better metals and components in Gleaner. I might be wrong tho! Like I said: Never touched and never run one of those. But honestly I would love to try and at least take a closer peak at them

@jasonrathgeber5999

Жыл бұрын

A gleaner the silver sided seeder. If you want to plant next year's crop behind you yah I would get a Gleaner junk

@MarcinRC6070

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonrathgeber5999 are those really that bad? I mean I saw a video from a channel called Brian's farming videos (or something like that) and he seems to be preatty happy about his Gleaner. And I think he switched from Claas. And Claas combines in my opinion are one of the best on the market

@jasonrathgeber5999

Жыл бұрын

@Perez_Tymczasem they don't call it junk for nothing, I live in Saskatchewan Canada and I have yet to see a new one around here. Their threshing system is not good. The older late 80's might be ok but no dealers around to fix even if you had to

Fun video and my Great Grandfather in 1890 would love to have either one. lol Thank you and the discussions about red or green shall go on forever. In the end it is about harvesting into a bin, nothing more.

Great video!!!!!!! That took a lot of doing. Good comparison. And I use to think the old 4 row combind was complicated. Wow times have changed. I guess for the better😒 may be.

Gotta love it, the John Deere dealership gives them a combine to use for the harvesting season and Cole craps all over it. Will Cooper have to give his season long bailer and tractor back as well? Maybe Cole can talk the dealer into giving them a tractor and seeder to use this spring.

Cole, excellent comparison between the combines.

WE LOVE YOU CORN THE COLESTAR!

This is probably the best combine comparison i ever saw. And not just combine of i think about it but to compare any machine in general. Nice work. I watched everything and I'm not even a farmer... I just miss claas combines, here in Europe claas is nr. 1 i think.

As a case mechanic i'd be intrested in what you would think about a newer 21 model 9250 to compare to an x9 1000 or 1100 i've heard a lot of good and bad about both but the hype over the x9 seems to be just HP nothing else seems to have changed. Great video keep it up

@kozy41

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, would have been nice to have both of them being the same model year.

@ryanbeiler6777

Жыл бұрын

X9 is basically a copycat of New Holland CR10 Twin Rotor. John Deere seems to have a knack for copying other manufactures. But Zach Johnson claimed that the X9 that they demoed with around 600 Hp needed more power.

Not a fair comparison a c2021 machine to a 2014 machine 2021 case will have improvements to compare to the 2021 deere

Great job! Would like to see a same year comparison of track v. track

OUTSTANDING JOB COLE

Wow, what a detailed review!

And today's episode I'm gonna teach you how to run your farm into the ground, going into massive amounts of debt, being one year from going bankrupt, and losing everything. I'm Cole the debt star, and know nothing about profitable farming!

@clodhopper946

Жыл бұрын

Thats why so many of these century farms are lost to the banks,,,,,, got to have new more fancy toys...

A field education on a really complex rolling factory. Both machines do an incredible job at increasing productivity considering the challenges of hand harvesting grains.

As always, you keep the attention of this city boy who wishes he grow old in the country. Your channel content is vitally important for city folks to understand where their food comes from. Keep this up, you may reach a wider audience someday.

The best combines are galvanized... compare either to a Gleaner

I worked for a case ih dealer and moved a lot of both of them and the case is more operated friendly over the John Deere and the back ladder is definitely a pain and a finger getter and I’m a big fan of of the tracks for loading and unloading on a detach in rain or snow and even ice but ice is scarier in its self

This is a very detailed review. Good job

Color doesn't matter: Dealer support does. If your dealer will go an extra mile, then you buy the color they sell. A true comparison would have nearly identical size machines run by operator's with near equal experience in the same field. Not knowing what the seat controls are in both machines is a clue that you aren't familiar with them, so other controls may be strange, hence hard to compare. Great video, though! And your commentary is hilarious! Loved it!

Are you excited about being a dad Cole? Don't worry to much man, your going to make a great father.

@johnwolicki7131

Жыл бұрын

What Nava Is pregnant

@jarrettfullerton2580

Жыл бұрын

Cole knows everything...he should master it

@Gwaycee

Жыл бұрын

He should be excited. He did after do the "planting", so he should be ready for the harvest. 😁😁😁

@tanianorkunas782

Жыл бұрын

Only just found out from this they had married a few months ago. Wonder why not spoken about on this channel

@jackbannock3458

Жыл бұрын

@@tanianorkunas782 because they probably dont care if they tell random people on youtube about the prego or wedding when his channel is about farming.

Hello Cole have you ever considered testing a drago gt corn header? It is an italian product that promises to have almost no header loss. I've worked with it and it's a dream to use because it adjusts to each plant so almost nothing is lost.

@jacoblandis4535

Жыл бұрын

They are also popular in the US. Good heads.

@ccole9080

Жыл бұрын

acchhh du lieber mein fruende

@agger838

Жыл бұрын

No such thing as no header loss. I runa gt. It's good but not perfect

@ccole9080

Жыл бұрын

@@agger838 no such thing As a header, its a shidder, i run a gloknspeilerflugen flopper and i get 13.5489 bushels per acre in the Sahara desert on Tuesdays

@derschwarzbrennerausdember8746

Жыл бұрын

@@ccole9080 ?

I have never known anyone so productive.😊

Thank you Cole for your honest review

That whole entire back spreader lifts up to give access to the back of the combine

This is a good video although a lot of it is subjective plus the year difference plays a big part.

I wish Cole would have talked about dealerships. A great dealer is priceless.

@FROSTY2588

Жыл бұрын

Gotta have a Deere dealer 20 minutes away for when something goes boom. Case IH is meant for field service. Can’t be running it down to the dealer 4 times in a harvest.

Awesome Video and Much Love as Always 🌽 🌟

I think that the ag leader shouldve been left out because it wasnt a factory option. And you are able to lift the spreader on the back up with one of those buttons on the side to get at the sieves

Try a Gleaner you will love it

hi cole hope all is well you should try a gleaner for comparison i think you would love the simplicity and everything just talking from a gleaner family for 60 years totally not biased

Great video thanks for sharing

I wonder if you'd look at the 'other' brands of combines like Fendt or New Holland.

This LIVE comparison is a pure gold....!!!!!

Well guess I'm changing my plans. Looks like I'm watching the Cornstars get stuff done instead. Edit: Well maybe not getting stuff done, but I did work the brain muscle quite a bit! ...ever thought of becoming a teacher Cole?

I really have enjoyed this particular video. Your very entertaining, keep it up.

That was fun ! And I'm not even a farmer. But pops was and we always had a mix of Red snd Green on the Ole Farm . But pops used to say "If ya wanna ware out a good set a Snapon Tools. GO GREEN ! 😏

The work that Cooper did on Case IH not ever body can . Where would you be with out Cooper last year . Renting a machine next ? At a hell price per hour next ?

TLDR: You prefer Case

I never being in combine just like to play farm sim22 and use to search about different stuff about farms but none of them hooked me like cole did simple language and engaging. Keep it up my farmer.

43:30 that switch box raises the tail board up clear out of way. Case looks alot faster. I think this is your best video in a long time good work

So, in other words, go Green 👍

SILVER!!!!

Combine Olympics in Iowa! Thank's Cornstar family!

very nice video. thank you Cole

An excellent review under the circumstances of comparing new with old. Perhaps next year Case will lend you a new one of the same spec as the Deere for a proper comparison.

@RK-fh1zb

Жыл бұрын

Proper comparison? He has a series 8 & a series 9 & 1 is stock with a 2x4 & the other is loaded with aftermarket upgrades

@adrianchetwynd1334

Жыл бұрын

@@RK-fh1zb Which why I said:"Perhaps next year Case will lend you a new one of the same spec as the Deere for a proper comparison".

@adrianchetwynd1334

Жыл бұрын

@@RK-fh1zb Also Cole's review was unfair to both manufacturers for many reasons which is why I suggested that next year he could do a more realistic and fair review if Case lends him their up to date model of a similar spec. Tires are tires, tracks are tracks, so they should not be included in the review.