My Works Aren't Gonna Save Me.

@havefaith4382

6 ай бұрын

facts dont believe this guy he is a pharisee put your faith in christ alone to get saved Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

@michaelnelson9211

6 ай бұрын

@@havefaith4382 Amen 💖✝️💖

@2Chronicles714_

5 ай бұрын

Paul says show evidence of your repentance by your works/deeds. Is Paul preaching a works based salvation?

@havefaith4382

5 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_ give verses bc these verses seem to contradict that Romans 4:2 “For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.” Galatians 2:21 “I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”

@michaelnelson9211

5 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_ are you reading NIV?

Grace. Unmerited favor. A gift.

@thejerichoconnection3473

9 ай бұрын

Yes, agreed.

@jammer4578

7 ай бұрын

@Keepitoriginalministry still a gift. And you sin. Do you use the gift as a license to sin?

@Keepitoriginalministry

7 ай бұрын

@@jammer4578 a gift 🎁 can be stolen, lost, despised. No I use the gift of Salvation and his loving grace to become a new creature. In which HE DID in me. It literally happened. Yes I still sin less. But that just shows me that I MUST trust him by following him, abide, obey because without him I’m lost again and going back to the world. The gift showed me that my righteousness is as rags. So I’m ONLY considered righteous when I ABIDE in the ONLY RIGHTEOUS ONE. And that’s GOD! Do you agree

@jammer4578

7 ай бұрын

@@Keepitoriginalministry stolen, lost no. Despised yes. Abiding is a gift. All good things come from God. 1 Cor 4:7. Only God is good. No boasting allowed for abiding.

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@Keepitoriginalministry No one who teaches salvation by grace alone through faith teaches people to go out and commit every sin. You grace deniers are the ones who come up with that. This is the same old slander that Paul faced in his day for teaching that our salvation costs us nothing (Romans 3.8). It's evil and wicked. Hebrews warns us that those that reject the gospel will not enter into God's rest. You reject the gospel when you try to slide in works, either as a prerequisite to salvation or as a fruit of salvation. No salvation is promised to people who partially believe in Christ. One must believe/trust/full rest on the perfect work of redemption that Christ accomplished on the cross for payment of their sins. Then and only then can they be saved.

It was apostle paul who taught free grace theolgy. He said if if its of works its not of grace and if its grace its not of works.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

the point is to understand what "it" is. Definitely not the inheritance in the kingdom of heaven.

@wib50

3 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 "it" is salvation or justification before God.

@jamesvan2201

3 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 the bible literally says, as does jesus and paul, "IT" IS salvation. let me ask you this, if salvation was by obedience to the law and turning from sins in the old testament, then jesus came and died for the forgiveness of our sins, but you say salvation is still by works and turning from sin, then pray you tell me, What was the purpose for which jesus died? nothing changed, then why did jesus come to die? wouldn't he have been better off just sticking to heaven and telling us the same stuff??? it makes no sense man, and you have to see that because if you don't, then you are quite literally blind.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

@@wib50 That’s right: the *initial* act of justification (or salvation) where God in his infinite mercy takes away all our sins and makes us new by pouring down his Holy Spirit in us, is apart from works. No one can merit or earn that grace. However, once we have been justified (or “saved”) we must, by the grace of God, obey Jesus’s commands (love God and love each other as Jesus loved us) in order to inherit eternal life in the kingdom of God. Hebrew 5:9: “And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that *obey* him” Initial justification is apart from work. Inheritance of eternal life in the kingdom of heaven is not.

@wib50

3 ай бұрын

@thejerichoconnection3473 that makes no sense, if initial justification is a free gift only by grace through faith but we have to somhow keep it by being as christ was as you say, that would for one mean that justification by faith meant nothing, and also one would have to be 100 percent perfect to obtain eternal life. Pure works salvation heresy.

So sick of these self righteous hypocrites and reprobates. You really think you are good enough to earn heaven? You are going to fail miserably by trusting yourself. It's sad really ad frustrating at the same time

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

I would ask you to please refrain from throwing around insults. And no, I don’t think I can earn heaven.

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 l am sorry. At this point in my life l hate false teachings that prevent people from getting saved, and instills fear into the brethren.

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Ok, you agree that salvation is a free gift, totally unmerited, by faith in the finished work of Christ alone. So at what point does one lose it? and what should they do to be "re born again"? See how ridiculous this is? Christ said, l will never leave thee nor forsake thee, but you are saying, He can leave you. Christ said he who believes in me already has eternal life now ( John 6:47, John 5:24, 1 John 5:13) , you are saying no, they don't! .Come on man, you making me call you names, but l am sorry l won't call you names anymore, but l honestly feel like rejecting eternal security is blasphemy. You are implying that there are some sin the work of Christ won't atone for, thus trembling His blood underfoot and treating it as an unholy thing. It's being double minded honestly. Yes the brethren can be carnal, read Corinthians and you be shocked. Should the brethren live carnally? No? Can they be carnal , yes? Will they lose their salvation, No! The Corinthians died prematurely and some were sick, because of being carnal. We are saved by grace, period, there is no if or but. We don't maintain our salvation, neither are good works evidence of salvation. Saved people should do good works because its our reasonable service (Romans 12:1)

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Actually you do. You are a double talking man who is very deceptive in your speech. You say no salvation is free but once you receive it you have to keep it(by living right i.e keeping the law) otherwise you will lose it, that's not a free gift!! You are a double minded man, always learning but never arriving to the knowledge of the truth. It's spiritual adultery, to think you can receive a free gift and also earn it by the law.

@GRACE4LYFE

7 ай бұрын

​@@thejerichoconnection3473you think your good enough to keep ur salvation because one sin condemns you to hell but as long as I go to a preacher an say I'm sorry I'm okay? You think that makes more sense then god having love that once we're saved he don't see our sins no more because all three Galatians it talks about Christ not seeing the circumcised or uncircumcised actually so many books talk about being saved by grace it actually tells us straight up we're saved by it but with ur beliefs u make the bible contradict itself an god doesn't contradict with free grace theology there's not one verse u can give make it contradict it unless u take it outta context

I just don’t understand why people speak of eternal salvation when they really mean probation. Usually those who go against Free Grace are those who really believe they can lose their salvation. Let me make this simple: All sin was imputed to Christ 2000 yrs ago. Believe this and you’ll receive Christ’s perfection thus justifying you before the Father. Nothing you do or don’t do can take away your position in Christ. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, made this clear. 2 Cor. 5:19+

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

So let me give you a simple example that exposes the outrageous conclusions of "free grace theology". A teenager raised up in a Christian family honestly puts his faith in Christ at the age of 12 and gets saved once and for all. Then, later in life, he abandons the faith like many young people unfortunately do, gets convinced Christianity is fake, gets involved in satanic circles, and spends the rest of his life sacrificing children to Satan. When he dies and stands in front of Jesus, what is Jesus going to tell him? A. Come my child, inherit the kingdom my Father prepared for you since the beginning of time! B. Off to hell, you wicked man! A or B?

@GRACE4LYFE

7 ай бұрын

​@@thejerichoconnection3473 well if you believe God is all knowing an all seeing he knows that this kid was never true believer therefore never sealed because God knows our hearts so me nor you can truly know if someone really believed but God does so there's that for ya

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

@@GRACE4LYFE so you are not a free grace. You are a Calvinist. Please choose one.

@GRACE4LYFE

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 absolutely not Calvinist but as bible says god knows our heart an just like bible says we are giving holy spirit when we are believers an if they was never truly believe they never got holy spirit we don't know that just because someone says it they truly mean it an only god knows that so you can throw that example out the window because no man knows if the next man truly believes

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

@@GRACE4LYFE I’m glad you feel uncomfortable with the example I gave you. It means there’s still common sense in you and the heresy of “free grace theology” has not bought you yet 100%. Unfortunately, the real “free grace theology” teaches the answer is A, with no doubt and no shame. Please, stay away from it.

How do you lose faith? Faith is KNOWING! How do you UNknow something? It is the pure and simple Gospel that is the power unto salvation. There is no other foundation. Anyone who preaches ANOTHER gospel is cursed. If it is by works, it is not of grace. You HAVE to pick one or the other. You can't choose both! This guy denies the Gospel of salvation. It is the only foundation you can build on. If you don't have the Gospel right, you got nothing. It won't matter what you do or don't do. It won't matter what else you believe or don't believe if you aren't building it all on the simple Gospel. He is frustrating the grace of God. He is making God's grace and the death of Jesus Christ worthless. He is the one who is twisted. Please believe the Gospel! He is making works the foundation. You can't put the foundation on top of works. If the Gospel is the foundation, at least when you fall, you will fall on Christ. But, if the Rock falls on you, you will be crushed.

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

This is an interesting perspective. Are you saying that having faith in Jesus equals knowing that he is the Son of God?

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

I wonder how this guy pays for his sins when blood is required? 😆

@graftme3168

6 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Interesting question. But, I am not going to feed your ego with a reply. I can read between these lines.

@jamesvan2201

4 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 "having faith means that you know who he is and believe he has done it all ALREADY" we dont need to because HE ALREADY DID.

@BloodofChrist-jx8te

Ай бұрын

Exactly eternal security is the gospel

"They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that!"

@PROJECT.LUKE.ONE.75

9 ай бұрын

Amen. II Timothy 3:5

@graftme3168

7 ай бұрын

What power is that?

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

Correct, the turn from your sins crowd act all godly and deny the power thereof (that being, The Gospel)

@havefaith4382

6 ай бұрын

the hypocrisy of you modern day pharisees is hilarious you think your work will save you yet by your logic you yourself wouldnt be saved as you havent stopped sinning since you cannot stop sinning its impossible it even says so in the bible

@irunsauce6437

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂act godly can't be serious turn to free grace the truth all of yah

If grace is not a gift, then we are all doomed to hell. Yes, thank you, Jesus, I receive your free gift of grace that you revealed to me through your death on the cross! I can't do anything to earn salvation and I can't do anything to keep it. Your Word says that you are the author and finisher of my faith. Your word says that you have delivered me from the power of the enemy. Your word says that you have perfected me forever! Your word says that the Holy Spirit works in me to WILL and to DO His good pleasures. The work is all you, Lord, and I thank you!

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@Keepitoriginalministry

7 ай бұрын

FREE GRACE teaching is evil and twisted

@graftme3168

7 ай бұрын

@@Keepitoriginalministry I'll let Jesus know you refused His sacrifice. I'm sure He will be disappointed.

@Keepitoriginalministry

7 ай бұрын

@@graftme3168 well don’t assume that prove it? So you believe in OSAS? or free grace? Funny how twisted you are. You’re the one who preaches that one can get saved then refuse Jesus Christ after salvation and supposedly you’re still saved 🤔 the one that disappointed is the Holy Spirit. In which your teaching only considers Jesus Christ our Lord. Yes let’s believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Then what does the bible tell us about the Holy Spirit? Blasphemy is what yall do. Look up the word Blasphemy. You see the finished work of the cross is finished for salvation. But then we receive the Holy Ghost and his word in us is not finished. We MUST FOLLOW HIM TO STAY SAVED

@Keepitoriginalministry

7 ай бұрын

@@graftme3168 see how easy your false doctrine gets exposed? You believe I’m once saved always saved. Then you say “I’ll let Jesus know that you refused his sacrifice” Jesus Christ is my savior. I believe on him. Who he is what he did for me. That he resurrected. So tell me what is the CONDITION TO GET SAVED?

Would have been a whole lot easier if he would have just been honest and told everyone from the get go that he’s a catholic or a Greek Orthodox Arminian. The Catholic Church has denied all the doctrines that he’s railing about since it’s inception so nothing new here.The sad thing is that his whole case is built on stories and human reasoning but then again that’s to be expected.

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

Not sure what’s me being Catholic got to do with the fact that free grace is heresy. The two things are totally unrelated.

@jamesvan2201

4 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 because catholicism is the religion of the beast. you guys think you are literally eaten jesus when you take communion. catholicism is a cult and not christian. the catholic church persecuted real believers for centuries, even with holding the bible from everyone who wasnt top tier in the church. ever heard of the dark ages? yep, when the catholic church made it illegal on pain of death and imprisonment and torture for owning or reading a bible. why? because satan didnt want the truth to be known. you are in what revelation calls the "whore religion of babylon" you know, the one god pleads and warns his people to "come out of so that you dont share in gods wrath against her"?

@jamesvan2201

4 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 someone in a heretical religion calling the gospel "heretical"....laughable.

@jamesvan2201

4 ай бұрын

yep...shameful indeed.

@pittymaster496

Ай бұрын

​​@@thejerichoconnection3473this is what being a Roman Catholic has to do with your heresy... Galatians 1;8 "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed."

I dont know any free grace teachers who say " dont feel sorry for you sin" as this guy said. Because anyone who has come to see themselves as a sinner and in Need of forgiveness from Christ's sacrifice obviously feels sorry for sin.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

It’s not that. The point is that they say that if you think that you need to feel sorry to be saved, then you are not saved.

@wib50

6 ай бұрын

​@thejerichoconnection3473 the point is, somone saying to God or showing God they are sorry for thier sins by striving to do better won't save anyone.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

@@wib50 I would argue it’s exactly the opposite: if you say to “believe” in Christ but you don’t feel sorry for your sins, it probably means your “faith” is nothing more than a mental acknowledgment. Mental acknowledgments will not save anyone.

@wib50

6 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 as I said before, the only sense in wich sorrow for sin is salvific is that one realizes they a sinner and in Need of Christ's forgiveness. That why belief in jesus is the qualifier for salvation throughout the bible.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

@@wib50 I like the direction you are going. You are at least moving away from free-grace fundamentalism.

"I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain." Galatians 2:21 "For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." Romans 10:3-4

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

Love these verses.

"You are saved by grace, through faith alone, and not by works, so that no man may boast." "Sirs, what must we do to be saved?" They replied, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten Son, that whomever believes on him will have Eternal Life." Anyone saying that something needs to be added to belief is anathema. Faith alone. Sola Fida.

@robertemard9452

5 ай бұрын

Your first quote is a misquote of Ephesians 2:8. It does not say faith alone. That is a common addin by those in the so called free grace movement. And James 2:24 says "not by faith alone". The point James is trying to make is not that we earn our salvation but rather that true faith must lead to works otherwise it is not true fatih. You do need faith every time however for everything that does not proceed from faith is sin (Romans 14:23). You need gas in your car every time you go to city Y but gas alone won't take you there.

@GraceAloneThroughFaithAlone

4 ай бұрын

It's not a "misqoute" lol... KJV "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" "Sirs what must we do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." Jesus alone is what saves, not works. If you think works must be done, then how many works? Jesus rails against works being saving grace theology so many times.@@robertemard9452

@dough3821

2 ай бұрын

@@robertemard9452 Eph. 2:8-9 says, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Salvation is not some kind of cooperative effort. It's a FREE GIFT that is received by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5). James 2:14-26 is written to BELIEVERS to urge them to make their faith PROFITABLE to themselves and others. While justification before God is through faith alone (Rom. 4:5), other people cannot see our faith; rather, they can only see our works. Furthermore, there will be great profit in the form of future reward for the believer in Jesus Christ who walks according to good works in this life. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zn-bstyyZZnKYto.html

@BloodofChrist-jx8te

Ай бұрын

Well done it clearly teaches faith alone

You are not saved.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the heads up

@teodorogarcia3036

2 ай бұрын

Ephesian 4:30 through H.S we sealed for redemption. Through H.S is the Mark and our helper.

@teodorogarcia3036

2 ай бұрын

John 6:40 for the will of the father is that everyone who looks to the son and believes has has eternal life

@teodorogarcia3036

2 ай бұрын

Jesus and Paul makes it clear we are save by believing

@teodorogarcia3036

2 ай бұрын

Abraham was credit because he believed in God the father of faith

Do you agree to formally debate me on this topic?

@thejerichoconnection3473

8 ай бұрын

Sounds good to me! Never had a formal debate before, so it should be fun.

@Keepitoriginalministry

7 ай бұрын

He said yes

@albertjmajor1973

Ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 To be very clear, free grace is not heresy because the Bible itself says we cannot work for our salvation or obey the works of the law to get into Heaven. Our self righteous works or human self efforts or changed life or behavior cannot save you or keep you saved. Salvation is a free gift 🎁 of God per Romans 6:23. Only the blood🩸of Jesus Christ saves you the moment you believe the Gospel and trust in what Jesus did for you. God is looking only for the blood of His only begotten Son, NOT your own filthy rags - that’s why your good works/obedience to the law are FILTHY RAGS in the eyes of God. Only Jesus’ blood atones for all our sins is 💯 sufficient. Romans 4:4-5 (KJB) 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Hebrews 9:22 (KJB) 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Romans 3:24 proves that free grace is a biblical doctrine 💯✅✝️❤️ Romans 3:24 (KJB) 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: You DO NOT work for a gift, you simply receive it by FAITH, that's IT 💯 Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJB) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. If you say God’s grace is heresy, you are calling God a liar 🤥 Your video have errors, that’s sad.

Ephesians 1:13-14 For by grace ye are saved, through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, IT IS THE GIFT of God, (not faith) NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. Romans 3:26-28. Romans 4:5-8. Romans 1:16. John 6:47. Period. Romans 11:6. The gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4. That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to EVERYONE THAT BELEVETH, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Galatians 1:6-9. Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you, than that we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. To add to grace is a perverted gospel of works salvation which God will not accept. He only accepts the one blood sacrifice of His Son, Jesus, as the only means of salvation apart from any works. Romans 4:5 Man can do nothing to save himself. We have to have a sinless blood sacrifice for our sin debt we owe God. Jesus is that sin bearer. He took the punishment we deserve by paying the penalty for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. First John 2:2. John 3:18. Believers are no longer condemned, but UNBELIEVERS are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

I love all those verses you quoted. I agree with pretty much everything you said.

Acts 8:36 As they were traveling down the road, they came to some water. The eunuch said, “Look, there’s water! What would keep me from being baptized?” [37 And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart you may.” And he replied, “I believe that Yahusha is the Son of Yahuah.”][e] 38 Then he ordered the chariot to stop, and both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Adoni carried Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him any longer. But he went on his way rejoicing. 40 Philip appeared in[f] Azotus,[g] and he was traveling and evangelizing all the towns until he came to Caesarea.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more What part of the Lords covenant to us that he says our sins he will remember no more is confusing is Jesus lying to us when he says he will rember them no more

@christianforreal

5 ай бұрын

ayyyy!

@Ethan-jd3qt

4 ай бұрын

Amen, they don’t trust his words. Which means they trust in their self

@1Nathoo

23 күн бұрын

”Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭17‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭

The word of God says harlots and republicans will enter the kingdom of heaven before these self righteous hypocrites (Mat 21:31) , because they think they can keep their salvation by adding to the perfect and finished work of Christ. The self righteous has no need of a saviour, they feel they can either do it all by themselves or they can help Christ. They add repentance from sin, but nowhere in scripture is repentance of sin mentioned. One must repent from unbelief (i.e believing you need to be baptised, turn from sin, keep the law etc to be saved) to resting solely on the perfect and finished work of Christ. It took the Son of God physical death and punishment on the cross, and the Father raised Him from the dead, approving of His atoning sacrifice. That is the ONLY payment for sin, period . Adding anything to that is perverting the gospel and those that do, like this gentleman are accursed We know we are saved and secure in Christ because we love the brethren. These guys hate the brethren. They accuse the brethren who have trusted in Christ by calling them fake christians thus hating the brethren. The unregenerate will redefine repentance to mean it's turning from sins, or grace by abusing titus 2.

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

Talking about harlots, have you ever read John 8:11: “And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and *sin no more.* “

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Yah, what did you want Him to say? Go and sleep around some more? You guys are ridiculous. You make it as if free grace tells people to go out and live like the devil. It's ironic. You are the ones that love wickedness because you are the first to suggest, so should we do abc and still be saved? It shows what you truly want to do. But once again, salvation is a free gift of God, it can't be earned. Adding works perverts the gospel. But you can never see it, The gospel is something you either get or don't. This is just another goat which appears to be a sheep, but salvation is only found in Christ sir. You can reform all you want and "clean up" your life all you want and still be lost and in darkness.

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Apostles - "God gave His Son to die for your sins because no one is righteous, rest upon the Son of God for salvation, His death, burial and resurrection, and you are saved and sealed with the Holy Ghost" Reprobates---- So does it mean l should go rape, kill and murder and just live like the devil? SMH.

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

@@thomaskangai2068 of course not. But you know what the shameful thing is? That your “free grace theology” teaches that those that do these things will still inherit the kingdom of God, if they happen to have believed, even for just a second, in Jesus once in their life. This is what went absolutely wrong in the “free grace theology.”

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 There is nothing shameful about Christ dying to redeem us. The shame is upon the reprobate that denies His free gift. The gospel teaches that we are saved by grace through faith in the finished work of Christ period. Full stop. Period. Yes if you believed in Christ for a second you get saved, that nanosecond. God honours that. At this point you have no other option but to hang on to a scripture that l have explained, and make strawman arguments against the gospel. It's clear that you might be a reprobate at this point, but only God knows who is a reprobate, but l know that continuing to reject the gospel hardens the heart to a point where you won't accept it ever, so tread careful. Nowhere in scripture is a believer called the unrighteous. The believer is called righteous because God does not impute sin to him anymore, that faith in Christ is counted for righteousness, not by keeping the law. If you had read the verses l showed you you wouldn't be making these silly arguments. You keep going back to that verse because you have nothing else but self righteousness to hold on to, but your own beliefs will damn you in the end. That same law that you keep will be used to judge you. You think that just because you are not a homosexual, thief or murder, you are going to heaven? One sin is enough to have you doomed. This is not Islam where your good has to outweigh your bad deeds. You have to be perfectly righteous to enter heaven. That sin you think is not worse that murder, is going to lead you straight to hell. That's why you need Christ's righteousness imputed to you.

some of my comments were deleted by truth hate. i did have a typo but the point of being a disciple is to deny yourself, bear your cross and follow Jesus luke 14:27 matthew 11:38.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

Please understand that I don’t delete any comments. If some of your comments didn’t post, it could be due to YT automatic filters or glitches. You are welcome to resubmit.

Once saved always saved absolutely cannot be true. I’ve been saved at least 15 to 20 times in the last 35 years since I first got saved.

I’m a Protestant but I totally agree with you. I’m not Calvinist or “Free Grace” both are errors. James is clear that “faith without works is dead”

@thetrigger8086

10 ай бұрын

You take “Faith without works is dead” out of context here. It is not talking about faith in relation to salvation, it is talking about faith in relation to other believers. “Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭4‬:‭4‬-‭5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

@thejerichoconnection3473

10 ай бұрын

@@thetrigger8086 James 2, taken in context, is indeed "about faith in relation to salvation." "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? *can faith save him?* " (James 2:14)

@Eloign

10 ай бұрын

@@thetrigger8086 Luther himself would disagree with you here and say that faith that has no fruit is not saving faith. No fruit = no root.

@zacy-t2771

9 ай бұрын

@@Eloign Lucky we follow Christ and not Luther

@3rd-Samuel

8 ай бұрын

​@@thetrigger8086Yes Sir! It really is sad that masses of people go the self- righteous route....That's like trusting in the wind!

Peter denied Jesus - three times .

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

Yes

@halcyon289

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 So did he lose his salvation ?

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

@@halcyon289 of course not, because he repented (Luke 24:61-62) and was forgiven by Jesus (John 21:15-19).

@halcyon289

7 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Luke ?

@thejerichoconnection3473

7 ай бұрын

@@halcyon289 yes, the gospel of Luke. You can find Peter repenting and crying about his denial in Luke 24:61-62.

Grace is not the same as believing, Grace comes in stages, as one person pursues their Christian life, the lord sends more grace, and with more grace, you are elevated and strengthen even more to combat evil and to connect with the lord. Grace on the high levels is earned. Amen brother

@thejerichoconnection3473

5 ай бұрын

I definitely agree with the general idea that you are describing. This concept of “dynamic” grace is beautiful but it’s also something that many Protestants have a hard time grasping. However, I would be careful in using terms like “earning” because it may give the wrong impression that we are somehow entitled to receive these graces. We are not. Those graces are simply rewards that God is pleased to distribute out of his love for us, but they are still gifts and are not “earned”, since God doesn’t owe us anything.

@jamesvan2201

4 ай бұрын

dude...no...no...just no. grace is not a stage. grace means "mercy without just cause" or "free gift" for simple terms. grace is something that is given to someone who doesnt deserve it.....wow you twisted that badly...

@jasonfabillar

3 ай бұрын

No. Grace is the Cross. All has given to us in the finished work of the Cross. Its our understanding of the grace that is growing overtime.

THE MOMENT YOU BELIEVE IN THE LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST AND WHAT HE DID ON THE CROSS AND IS ALIVE IN HEAVEN YOU ARE SAVED AND HAVE HIS CRACE ITS A FREE GIFT

repent is a word that has lost its meaning over time. repentance inherently has nothing to do with sin! read all about the verses where God repented. john 3:16 3:36 believe in Jesus Christ and He will save your soul from all sins eternally. repenting of sins is also the work the Holy Spirit does in us and can gradually save us from sin in our flesh right now if we truly want its all because of God that we can be saved and sanctified

@ironhide_487

2 ай бұрын

‭Luke 17:3-4 [3] Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him, [4] and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.”

@1Nathoo

23 күн бұрын

@@ironhide_487Amen

Your teaching is so on point! And as you said, this "Free Grace" theory is so dangerous and misleading. My prayers are that many will open their eyes to the truth and not continue to listen to this lie.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

The lie is that your dead works and turning from sin actually pays for sin.

@emmanuelgarcia8992

5 ай бұрын

According to free grace a believer can be a murderer and still be saved! Such a wicked doctrine.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

5 ай бұрын

@@emmanuelgarcia8992 This is for you: ➡️ And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) *Let us do evil, that good may come?* whose damnation is just. Romans 3:8 ➡️ 'They say that we say, 'let us do evil that good may come?' ➡️ 'You just want a license to sin!!' 🛑Sound familiar? Thats cause Paul dealt with you legalists back in the day too 😂

@2Chronicles714_

5 ай бұрын

​@philippians117 Dead works is sin.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

5 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_ Yeah and turning from your sins is defined as a WORK, according to Jonah 3:10 Oops.

Salvation is only achieved through repenting (changing your mind) about your belief (or non-belief) about what it takes to go to heaven (or not to hell where everyone not saved is going) and believing that Jesus died on the cross (and rose again) as an atonement for ALL of your sins. Once that happens you become a child of God and no one can ever snatch you out of the Father’s hand. Even though we (humans) will inevitably continue to sin, God will honor his word and because of that, we cannot lose our salvation.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Every Christian that ever lived believed that Jesus died on the cross and rose again as an atonement for all our sins (that’s the core of being Christian). So according to you, all Christians are in heaven. Is that what you’re saying?

@scottw3039

Ай бұрын

Anyone who accepts what Jesus did for him (or her) on the cross as an atonement for their sins is forever sealed as a child of God and nothing can ever snatch them out of the Father’s hand. Anything different is straight from the devil. That why its called the good news.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

@@scottw3039 it sounds like you didn’t answer my question. What you described is a bare minimum belief every single Christian always professed, with no exceptions (there’s no point in being “Christian” if you don’t believe in Jesus’ resurrection and atoning sacrifice). If what you say is true, 100% of Christians that ever lived are in heaven. Is that what your position?

@scottw3039

Ай бұрын

I answered your question I would study what the bible actually says making sure to read it in context and concentrate on your own salvation and loving others and bringing others into the kingdom.

Wow, he say " free grace no thanks" i say " free grace thank you Jesus"

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

I would advise you to please watch the video before commenting.

If this is the case, then Peter, Paul, and the thief on the cross are not in heaven.

@thejerichoconnection3473

5 ай бұрын

Why wouldn’t they?

@2Chronicles714_

5 ай бұрын

The all humbled themselves and repented of their sinfulled lives.

@b2l421

5 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_ They all sinned until there very last day on earth. Saved by grace.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

5 ай бұрын

@@b2l421 Lol, got him. Good one.

@Ethan-jd3qt

4 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_the phrase repent of your sin is not in the Bible lol

Strange that the so called free grace movement teaches "faith alone" but James specifically says "not by faith alone".

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

James wasn't even about salvation 😆

@robertemard9452

6 ай бұрын

@@Bro_Mike_Phil117 The verse literally says "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.". And James had just finished saying in verse 14: "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?". James is most certainly talking about salvation. James, John, Paul, all taught the same gospel of Jesus Christ.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

@@robertemard9452 James 2 was referring to works of service accompanying faith, in order to be of service to mankind - hence the given examples of feeding the poor, clothing the naked, etc If one singular passage promoting works salvation was present, you'd have a contradicting book when the rest of the book states 'Justification by faith, not of works', if it be of works, it is no more grace, no flesh shall be justified by the law etc etc Is that your argument? For a contradicting book?

@robertemard9452

6 ай бұрын

@@Bro_Mike_Phil117 Spare me the straw man arguments which is typical by the so called free grace movement. If you read the bible as a disciple instead of as a theologian or lawyer with pre-conceived doctrines, you will find that the bible is consistent in teaching the gospel. Justification is by faith. In fact that which does not proceed from faith is sin (Romans 14:23). We are not justified by the works of the law (Galatians 2:16). A lot of the teaching in the epistles was against those who mixed the gospel of Jesus Christ with Judaizing. Requiring faith every time does not mean faith alone. You might require gas every time you take your car to get to the city but gas alone will not take you there. Get it? Your "service to mankind" is a serious watering down of the gospel and that was not the point of James. You do not have to only look at James. In 1 Cor 5:1-5, clearly Paul describes a saved perosn in danger of losing his salvation because of what can be refered to as matured sin. James even warned christians that (1:15): "Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.". James was not concerned about physical death of matured sin which some in your camp twist. The context is spiritual death. When Paul says to Christians in Col 1:23, if indeed you continue in the faith, the context is made clear when you read the verses before. Paul is talking about salvation. James 5:19-20, there is no other way to interpret these verses other than what they are saying. To bring back a sinner from his wandering means he was saved. That's what it means if you know how to read. 1 Tim 4:1: some will depart from the faith. Depart from the faith only has one interpretation. It means they were of the faith and no longer of the faith. Jesus said, if you forgive others their trespasses then he will forgive yours. Jesus even becomes more clear when he says if you do not forgive others, he will not forgive you. You see, the whole bible is against OSAS. In fact OSAS is against the character of God. God will not force people onto himself against their will. There are hundreds of other verses that clearly and in no uncertain terms teach against OSAS.

@Bobepc

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@Bro_Mike_Phil117- James 2 isn’t promoting a works “based” salvation, but works as the resulting “evidence” of saving faith. If a persons supposed faith in Christ does not result in the evidence of good works, it is dead, dead, dead….and unable to save.

It's not just free grace it's greasy free grace. So greasy and buttery that we just slip right through life! I have no clue what this video says I just read the comments. And I see a bunch of arguing and people trying to prove each other right and wrong. Jesus is the savior of all people. People are always identifying as insiders and outsiders. Jesus is lord. Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess. Glory bombs

"But what if someone is really REALLY bad?! Not like me! My sins are just little ones!" Every sin is an act of Satanism. You cheapen your own sin.

According to Jesus, if you bilieve the Gospel the Holly Spirit dwells in you FOREVER, and as Paul said in Romans 8, those who have the Spirit in them are not in the flesh anymore. 😉 John 14:16-17 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. Romans 8:9-11 9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you. So yeah, even when you sin, if you are saved, to God you are counted as righteous because you trust not in your capacity to overcome your dead flesh, but in Jesus Christ as your Savior. We are not trying to make it to heaven, what we want is fellowship with Christ in this life, not just after we die, because the saved are already everlasting creatures, and no everlasting thing can ever become not everlasting. Focus on Christ, not on your works and sins.

@thejerichoconnection3473

9 ай бұрын

Hi! Thanks for providing your point of view in a respectful way. I do not agree with your interpretation of Romans 8, though. When Paul says “although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness”, he does not mean that, even though you keep sinning-maybe even more than before having come to Christ-you have nothing to fear because you will eventually make it to heaven no matter what. The context is obviously about resurrection to eternal life. Paul is simply saying that, even though our body is mortal and will die as a consequence of original sin, if, when we die, the Spirit of God dwells in us, God will resurrect us as he resurrected his Son, because the Spirit is what gives eternal life. You simply need to read a couple of verses more and you’ll get your answer. Romans 8:12-13: “Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation-but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.” The expression “brothers and sisters” means true believers-Christians that supposedly are already saved and eternally secured. And yet Paul is warning them that if they live according to the flesh, they will perish. You see that Romans 8 plainly refutes osas.

@ByGraceThroughFaith777

9 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Don’t you see how it is “by the Spirit” that the deeds of the body are mortified in verse 13? It is precisely because we are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit that we have life, because the Spirit renders the body dead. Unless you have the Spirit in you, you cannot put to death the misdeeds of the body and live. And Jesus said that the believers have the Spirit in them forever, so we can never perish because of the deeds of the flesh. Is that simple. That’s the whole point Paul is trying to make by identifying believers having the Holy Spirit dwelling in them (to be in the Spirit), in contrast to those who “are in the flesh” and cannot please God, because they have not believed the gospel of salvation, and have not been sealed with the promised Holy Spirit as a down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession (Ephesians 1:13-14). Again, Jesus tells us in John 14 that the Holy Spirit will be with the believer forever. That means the believer can NEVER be in the flesh again AFTER getting sealed by the Holy Ghost (because He is with us forever), and it is through the Holy Ghost (Not by your works nor mine) that the deeds of the flesh are made dead.

@thejerichoconnection3473

9 ай бұрын

@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 you have not addressed my objection. Why is Paul warning faithful Christians (that supposedly will never perish no matter what) that, if they live by the flesh, they will perish?

@ByGraceThroughFaith777

9 ай бұрын

@thejerichoconnection3473 Because he's explaining to other Christians what happens when we don't have the Spirit in us to mortify the deeds of the body. He already told them not to worry since they are already in Christ in verse 9. In verse 12 he tells us that we are not obligated to the flesh, and in 13 he explains why that is. And verse 10 reads, "But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness." All you need is Christ, He makes you righteous, not your works, because it is the Holy Spirit in you the one who kills the deeds of the flesh, not your attempt to not sin. It's not a license to sin as some put it, it simply put, is the freedom of the Gospel of salvation that Jesus did it all for us, so we can have fellowship with Him with no condemnation, as Romans 8:1 puts it. 1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. Peace and take care. God bless.

@thejerichoconnection3473

9 ай бұрын

@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 Thanks for articulating your position! However, I don’t find your response to my objection convincing. Your solution is that when Paul tells his fellow Christians that if they live by the flesh they will perish, he is talking *to them* but he is not talking *about them.* I understand this is your only possible way out of a passage that seems to clearly contradict osas. But still it sounds like a very arbitrary, ad hoc explanation. There is nothing in the text that suggests that Paul is not referring to them. In fact, the text is clear: Paul is warning them. If it were not so, you would probably agree that Paul’s message would sound extremely confusing, if not deceiving. Also, I don’t find your articulation correct. Paul is not “explaining other Christians what happens when you don’t have the Spirit.” That’s not what Paul says. Paul is explaining other Christians what happens *when you live by the flesh.* The two concepts are obviously linked but not the same. In verse 12 he says we are not obligated to the flesh: true. But in verse 13 he does not explain “why.” That is not what Paul is saying. He explains the *consequence* of being in the Spirit. If we have received the Spirit of Christ, now we are not slave to sin anymore, we are not obligated to it anymore. We have a tool to put to death the misdeeds of our body. And that “tool” is precisely the Spirit. But verse 13 clearly states that it’s up to us to do that “by the Spirit.” It’s not the Spirit that puts to death our sins automatically: this is not what Paul is saying. It’s us (through the Spirit): Paul is clear also here. Having the Spirit doesn’t automatically prevent us from living by the flesh. But if we want to, now we are able to resist the flesh, because we have the Spirit. The Spirit enables us to resist, but he doesn’t force us. We can still choose to disobey the Spirit and live by the flesh, and if we do that we will perish. According to Paul, eternal life is conditional to a big IF. “If *you* put to death the misdeeds of your body by the Spirit, you will live.” From which it follows that if *you* don’t put to death the misdeeds of your body, even though God gave you his Spirit to enable you to do so, you will perish. This has nothing to do with “work-based” salvation. We are called to *collaborate* with the Spirit that is in us to make sure we don’t follow the flesh anymore. If we don’t, it’s our responsibility and we will perish. If we do, it’s not by our merit, but just because God gave us the Spirit to do that. It’s all very clear. But hey, thanks for engaging. It was a nice conversation. God bless you.

I really like Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

I really like it too.

I say, yes and thank you Lord to free grace. If I have to pay for it, it's not a gift and if I had to pay for that gift, it would be something I could never afford.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Totally agree. Nobody can buy grace.

So if it is not by faith, but by faith and works, how can Romans 8 state nothing can separate us from God? If works are necessary is grace still freely given or is it exactly like the old covenant a "do this and live" agreement? Please repent and believe the Gospel, the Good News. Jesus did say it is finished, and He has.

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

What is that “it” that you say is by faith? That’s the whole confusion. That “it” is the initial grace of justification which reconciles us with God and opens up the gates of heaven for us. This unmerited gift is thanks to Christ’s sacrifice on the cross which is finished and complete. However, the Bible makes it abundantly clear that the entrance into heaven is not by faith alone and is contingent on whether we keep persevering in the faith that works through love or not. Romans 8, which you quoted, states it clearly: “For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” (Rom 8:13).

@Bobepc

2 ай бұрын

No external force or entity can separate us from God, but we can separate ourselves from God by not staying faithful and following Him.....

@blessed4019

2 ай бұрын

​@thejerichoconnection3473 I think you are really confused. Here's my question to you; after Jesus promised the thief on the cross paradise and died shortly after, do you know the thief stayed alive for a couple of hours? So before he eventually died later in the day, do you think he did not sin in his thoughts, words or action given the verbal taunting and physical abuse the Roman soldiers metted out to him? Note that this was a thief who had lived his life doing all manner of evil, including cursing, insults, jesting, etc

@Bobepc

2 ай бұрын

@@blessed4019 - The thief on the cross remained faithful to the Lord to the end (albeit short end). Had he been let down from the cross and allowed to live, but returned to a life of thieving and debauchery, he would have surely been condemned and denied entrance into heaven.

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

@@blessed4019 this is the weirdest argument I’ve heard so far about the thief on the cross (and I’ve heard many). It’s based on many errors: 1. You are assuming that any sin (even the most insignificant one) would damn us to hell. That’s not what Jesus taught (take the sermon on the mount as an example). Only grave sins committed with an unrepentant attitude (mortal) would damn us. 2. You are double guessing the thief on the cross (which is horrible). We have no idea what he thought or said (even though we definitely know what he did: nothing, because he was nailed). And even assuming for sake of argument that he mortally sinned with his words or thoughts, if we repented of those mortal sins and asked God for forgiveness, then he would have been fine anyway. 3. He died under the old covenant (the Holy Spirit would come down only on Pentecost 53 days later) so the way he was saved (whatever it was) may not have much to do with the way we (that are part of the new covenant) are saved -> every argument around the thief on the cross is mute.

the doctrine of justification that was agreed among protestants by the end of the 16th century was a total novelty, which had never been sustained in the history of Christianity

The turning away from the " gospel of the grace of God" as Christ Jesus revealed to our apostle Paul began in Paul's day 2 Timothy 1:15 " This thou knowest, that all those in Asia be turned away from me.." Turned from what he reminded Timothy of earlier in this chapter in verse 9 " Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began."

I'm glad that people are starting to realize the true Gospel. It's by faith thru grace alone, once saved always saved. In fact, if this isn't the faith you have for salvation, you are not saved and you don't know the true Gospel or the true Jesus for that matter. Works for salvation is a sneaky wolf in sheeps clothing.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

“By faith through grace” has nothing to do with osas. The former is biblical, the latter is not.

“Justified” does NOT mean “declared righteous”! Nobody thinks that sanctification is a declaration of being holy, so why should we think that justification is a declaration of being just? Both words indicate a process, a direction of change. Most of the time Paul is using justification as the act of setting something right that was wrong. This is due to faith "ek pistis" - out from faith, a product of faith. It is a functional faith that influences how we think, reason, feel, and act. It is in that sense that we are justified by faith, set right by faith. The Greek word “dikaioō” (Strongs #1344) should be more accurately translated as “set right,” “rectified,” or “corrected,” as it is a CHANGE from wrong to right, whether in our minds or in other ways, like justifying a line of text or a crooked picture that is set right. Belief in Jesus sets us right, corrects us, rectifies us. For example... Galatians 2:17 "But if, in our ENDEAVOR to be justified in Christ, we too were found to be sinners..." 2 Thessalonians 2:13, "God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, THROUGH sanctification..." Romans 6:19, "present your members as slaves to righteousness [dikaiosynē] LEADING to sanctification." Romans 6:20 “For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness [dikaiosynē].” 1 Corinthians 6:10-11 “Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified [set right, Gr. edikaiōthētet] in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” The word translated as “justified” is being used as a synonym for being sanctified and washed clean. Romans 4:25-5:1 “Who was delivered up for [Gr. dia, through] our trespasses and raised for our justification [dikaiōsin/correction]. Therefore, since we have been justified [dikaiōthentes/set right] through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” Romans 4:25-5:1 says that Jesus died through our sin and he was raised to correct, to rectify (or justify, if you prefer) us. We are not merely declared righteousness, but rather we become righteous because of his resurrection and that due to having been set right we are able to obtain peace with God. This means that the life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Jesus motivated us to live lives pleasing to God. It is our “having been set right [dikaiōthentes] therefore [oun] out of [ek] faith [pisteōs]” that “we have peace with God.” It is not God declaring us right and then we find peace, but rather us first setting something right that was previously wrong which enables us to have peace with God as a byproduct, the result. Read more in the book “Atonement and Reconciliation”.

”Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭17‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭ What does this verse means if “Repenting” isn’t turning away from sin and only unbelief to belief ? (Question to free grace theology ppl).

These guys love their sins and invent a theology to be able to sleep at night

The words "by faith" are misleading. The Greeks often says, "ek pistis," where the "ek" means "out of" or "out from." “Ek” is the opposite of the word “eis” which means “into.” In other words, righteousness, and hence justification (setting right that which was wrong), comes out from, or out of faith, as a product of faith. This means that genuine faith produces righteousness because it is a FUNCTIONAL faith. This faith is not a neutral intellectual belief, it is operational, active, and productive, causing a change from unrighteous living to righteous living. By this a person is justified - set right from a previous state of living wrong. It is amazing to hear some Bible teachers say things like, “Theology affects the way we live” and “You mostly live according to the theology you believe”, and yet these same teachers speak of “salvation by faith” as if faith as something that happens external to you and has no required byproduct of righteous living. "By faith" is often understood as nearly a passive idea, where we are made to have faith and God does something called "justification," a legal arrangement or accounting act on His end. That is not what is intended by "ek pistis." Teachers of Reformed Theology and Penal Substitutionary Atonement have a problem with active, functional faith because they typically see this as works. To avoid this, the weaker translation is used, changing “out from faith” to “by faith.” "Ek pistis" or "ek pisteo" is in Romans 1:17, 3:30, 4:16, 5:1, 9:30,32, 10:6, Gal. 2:16,3:7,11, Heb. 10:38, James 2:24. These all show that faith is presumed to be active - affecting the mind, will, emotions, and actions of the believer. There are passages that do say “by faith,” which is “dia pisteo,” but “dia” means "through,” so faith in these cases is still an active mechanism, not a passive idea. Peter states it well in Acts 15:9, “…having cleansed their hearts by faith.” In this case the “by faith” is “te pistei”, which is simply “the faith,” making the phrase say that faith is the active thing that cleansed their hearts. Faith is not some external property like a salve or clothing that has no internal effect on the person. The single exception is found in the example of James 2:17-20 where demons have inactive faith, a dead faith that produces nothing.

For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV

👍Once Saved Aways Saved for the Church = Gal 5:21 Context is very important to understand the scriptures. In the beginning of the letter of Galatians, Paul is addressing the Churches of Galatia and in these Churches not everyone is saved. 👉Can you say everyone in your Church is saved? Every Church that's of God has people that are not saved. Next, Paul mentions the gospel of Christ in Gal 1:7, in this gospel Salvation is Today. In 2Corinthians 6:2, the word (Now) means = at this time, the present. Acts 13:39. And by Him all that believe (are) justified (from all things), from which ye could (not) be justified by the law of Moses. (justified) in the Greek is (dikaioō), which means to render righteous, declared righteous. 👉What does (justified from all things) means? in Acts 13:39 In Gal 5:16, we can put out the Spirit = 1THESSALONIANS 5:19,and walk in the flesh. In Gal 5:19 it mentions (works). In the Judgment seat of Christ, which is a Judgment for the Church only in = 2CORINTHIANS 5:10/1Cor 3:11-15, this judgment is for rewards, based on our (works), not a lost of salvation. Verse 15 supports this. In Galatians 5:21, Paul uses the word (they), not us or we, (they) meaning those that are not saved in the Churches of Galatia.

@robertemard9452

5 ай бұрын

The church headed by Jesus Christ is all those whom are his. I agree that the meetings in what people call "churches" today have a mix of saved and non-saved but at the times the epistles were written, it was mainly Christians meeting in homes. Missionary work was generally separate from Christians meeting together in their homes.

1 John 2:4 [4]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Saved by Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Eph.2:8-9, Titus 3:5, Gal.2:16, Matt. 7:20-22, Rom.11:6, Rom. 6:23, 2nd Cor. 11:3 etc.etc.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Let me guess. You yourself added all those “alone”, didn’t you? Why are you Protestants so obsessed with the word “alone” that you have to throw it into the Bible every other word? The only place where that word *actually* appears in the Bible is James 2:14, and unfortunately it has a “not” in front.

@HerbieJames

Ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 GOD is the Saviour not man.. MAN CAN NOT SAVE HIMSELF. That is why I use the word alone. Hebrews ch.1:2 " Did by HIMSELF purge us of all our sins" 2nd Cor 5:21 " He became sin for us".. GAL.1:4 " WHO GAVE HIMSELF" according to the will of GOD and our FATHER. Why do I have to be classified under the auspices of " protestant"? Because I believe what GOD says about His plan of salvation. I do not make the rules. I just a cheap radio transmitter with a message from Heaven. Please read the first 3 ch.s of Galatians to understand what it means to front load or back load the Gospel of Grace with works and make void the Grace of GOD. 1 work added to the GOSPEL keeps a person in bondage with a yoke of iron and they will never understand Grace or Eternal Security. Please consider what you are doing and the consequences for teaching a false GOSPEL. ✝️

@HerbieJames

Ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 I want you to know the truth about GODS plan of salvation. Eternal destinations are no joke. Please consider the consequences for not only teaching a false GOSPEL, but also everyone that is indoctrinated with a lie and gonna suffer because some man thought he was smarter then GOD...

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

@@HerbieJames I appreciate the effort, but I’m not preaching any gospel. I’m not a preacher. I’m just pointing out dangerous heresies that are infiltrating the Church. One of these is free grace theology.

@HerbieJames

Ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 How is GODS Grace a heresy? Please tell me how a lost person becomes saved?

That why Jesus was so hard on the pharisees that they were self righteous and think they knew all. Remember the man on the left of Jesus he did earn and didn't repent but believe how easy and free that was

Interesting. The problem with all other alternatives that offer no Eternal Security to believers is this: Only false hope for multitudes and small hope for few. Run, run race, oops wasn't able to finish race good and now burning in Lake of Fire for whole eternity? Many called and few chosen. Sorry U wasn't chosen and now it is time to burn? Why even start something like following Jesus Christ by sacrificing everything, denying Urself if the end would be a Lake of Fire? If life is short and after death the end of a particular individual would be still a Lake of Fire, despite whether this particular individual try to follow Jesus Christ or lived as he/she wants, including total wickedness, then what is the point to him/her to act right in this life? U want Loterry or Eternal Life? If Lottery then go ahead and play with Ur life using all in option but know that most likely U will end up in a bad place. Jesus Christ promised Eternal Life a a gift and not reward just by believing Him or no? Ask and U will receive (or this is somehow not working in this particular situation regarding Eternal life)? Even if Ur start in the race was good that doesn't mean U end up in a good Eternal place. Many believe that he/she is chosen and is a plant that planted in good soil, yet forgetting that he/she might be entirely wrong and end up in a bad place. If he/she believe that any child of God can perish in a Lake of Fire then there are no guarantees for him/she also. To sum up, there is no salvation in Lordship Salvation irrespective whether it is calvinistic, arminian or other type contexts. Many so called christians believe they going to Heaven when they never believed that because of Jesus Christ all (past, present and future) sins were forgiven. If future sins are not forgiven already then what is the point of particular individual past and present sins forgiveness when 1 sin is enough for him/her to end up in a Lake of Fire and after just one day there will be thousand or more sins comited by him/her by act, deed, mind and so on? If this writing was helpful give thanks to God in the name of Jesus Christ.

@DVN5381

4 ай бұрын

Right, if security isn't eternal, it isn't security.

What part in Ephesians 2:8-9 these people dont understand.

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 күн бұрын

@@jenkinsgenetia6708 the verse right after-the one free gracers always forget to quote-Ephesians 2:10.

God doesn’t need to see physical works of faith to know your faith and belief in Him are true God sees the heart every thought and feeling of every man

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

True, but if God sees only sterile mental faith that doesn’t translate into acts of mercy, that sterile faith will never ultimately justify you.

@stickmandrip6951

6 ай бұрын

​@thejerichoconnection3473 so you still say works are the proof of your salvation

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

@@stickmandrip6951 works are not proof of your salvation either, as Calvinists believe. Simply because salvation is not a one point in time thing. Salvation is a process. Faith *working* through mercy is the only thing that matters (Gal 5:6).

@stickmandrip6951

6 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 salvation is a process? NO. Its a one time event.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

@@stickmandrip6951 ok, let’s verify if that’s true in Scripture. When did Abraham put his faith in God for the very first time and was justified once and for all?

Can a good tree produce bad fruit? can a bad fruit produce good fruit?

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

It cannot. That’s exactly why free grace theology is false.

Breakdown exactly how much works and the quality of the works needed to determine if my or your salvation is authentic. Please tell me who so you KNOW that you yourself are saved?

@thejerichoconnection3473

5 ай бұрын

You are assuming I endorse lordship salvation. I don’t.

@2Chronicles714_

5 ай бұрын

Is there evidence of you repentance? Free grace rejects God's command that all people everywhere must repent of sin.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

5 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_ Unfortunately for you, 'repent of your sins to be saved' appears absolutely NOWHERE in the bible. Here's why and it's incredibly simple: 1 John 3:4 - Sin is transgression of the law. In order for you to turn from your sins, you must KEEP THE LAW. Are you keeping the law?

@2Chronicles714_

5 ай бұрын

@philippians117 Sin is transgression of God's perfect law. Without repentance you will not receive grace and are still under the law. So let's continue to live in unrepentant sin, which happens to be the only thing that will keep you eternally separated from God? To be saved, sins must be forgiven. How did Jesus,John the Baptist Peter, and Paul say sins are forgiven? Only by repentance. Luke 24:47 Acts 2:38 Acts 3:19 Acts 22:16 Acts 26:18-20.

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

5 ай бұрын

@@2Chronicles714_ Repentance isn't a turning from your sins, since sin is transgression of the law, in order to turn from your sins you must KEEP THE LAW. Too simple.

After a person is saved by faith and sins willfully, there is chastisement or chastening. In most cases you will never know how God will deal with his sin because you won’t see him live his life 24/7. It’s God who determines HOW He will chasten him, not you. You don’t decide what you want to see how God will chasten him; It’s way below your pay grade.

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

Not sure why you are assuming I think I can decide how God may chasten whoever goes astray. Why would I even claim anything like that?

When Jesus said it is finished the expensive price was paid in full. When you are saved it is eternal. You should live a life pleasing to the lord.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

That “it’s finished” means “it’s paid in full” (why?) is one of the most widespread unbiblical misconceptions of Protestantism. Christ’s sacrifice is not an automatic free pass for all our future sins. Scripture is clear about that.

@kjvbiblebelievertal7431

6 ай бұрын

ALL sin has been dealt with-PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE Romans 4:6-8 KJV proves this. Verse 7 whose iniquities are forgiven-PAST Verse 7 whose sins are covered-PRESENT Verse 8 to whom the Lord will not impute sin-FUTURE. @@thejerichoconnection3473

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

​@thejerichoconnection3473 TETELESTAI, or it is FINISHED, also means it is paid in full, or do you not believe that, you heretic? You don't pay an imaginary remaining amount off yourself.

@kjvbiblebelievertal7431

6 ай бұрын

So according to your very own words in your comment you are calling Christ's very own statement unbiblical when He clearly says IT IS FINISHED John 19:30 KJV. You heretic.@@thejerichoconnection3473

@ThetaMinistries

6 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473respectfully I think you forgot the book of hebrews and psalms. When he forgives you, it’s once for all. Praying that you turn away from a works based gospel.

1 John 3:10 [10]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

acts 16:29-32 john 3:16-21 3:36 these verses are King Jesus and some early disciples sharing the true gospel of Christ. i trust that Jesus shared His own gospel correctly and completely 🤍

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

Yes I agree

Stop spending time arguing and to prove works, works does not save you. However we need to show so people can profit by seeing works so you live. According to Roman's Jesus will judge the hearts of man According to what Paul says

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

Are you referring to Romans 2:16?

They not only twist the meaning of repentance to be "belief in Jesus," they really are saying "belief in the power of his shed blood to cancel out our sins and make the Greatest Commandments of Jesus not really Commandments, not really important, necessary, or even possible." It’s the true "doctrine of demons."

You are either FREE GRACE OR EARNED GRACE. There is no in-between

@thejerichoconnection3473

24 күн бұрын

A few things: 1. Grace is free by definition. Saying “free grace” is redundant. It’s like saying “wet water.” 2. Believing that grace is unmerited (free) is totally different from being a “free grace”. Being a “free grace” means adhering to a very specific theological framework invented in the last 80 years that destroys the gospel and makes a joke out of it. In other words, it’s adhering to heresy. 3. There’s a fundamental, logical misunderstanding in thinking that since something is free we don’t have to do absolutely anything to get it, otherwise it wouldn’t be free anymore. This is just so contrary to common sense. If I, out of my infinite love for you, gave you the winning lottery ticket, would you say that, since you yourself had to go and redeem the prize using the ticket I gave you, you earned the prize? You see how terribly simplistic this “free vs earned” dilemma is?

Grace, by definition, is unmeritted, or in other words, free.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Correct

The gospel call to faith presupposes that sinners must repent of their sin and yield to Christ’s authority.” In other words, a sinner who refuses to repent is not saved, for he cannot cling to his sin and the Savior at the same time. And a sinner who rejects Christ’s authority in his life does not have saving faith, for true faith encompasses a surrender to God. Thus the gospel requires more than making an intellectual decision or mouthing a prayer; the gospel message is a call to discipleship. The sheep will follow their Shepherd in submissive obedience. Jesus’ repeated warnings to the religious hypocrites of His day as proof that simply agreeing to spiritual facts does not save a person. There must be a heart change. Jesus emphasized the high cost of discipleship: “Whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple” (Luke 14:27), and “Those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples” (verse 33). In the same passage, Jesus speaks of counting the cost; elsewhere, He stresses total commitment: “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:62). In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says that eternal life is a narrow path found by “only a few” (Matthew 7:14); in contrast, some seek to broaden the path so that anyone who has a profession of faith can enter. Jesus says that “every good tree bears good fruit” (verse 17); in contrast, some say that a tree can still be good and bear nothing but bad fruit. Jesus says that many who say “Lord, Lord” will not enter the kingdom (verses 21-23); in contrast, some teach that saying “Lord, Lord” is good enough. Paul and James taught that a true profession of faith will be backed up by evidence of faith. If a person is truly following the Lord, then they will obey the Lord’s instructions. A person who is living in willful, unrepentant sin has obviously not chosen to follow Christ, because Christ calls us out of sin and into righteousness. Indeed, the Bible clearly teaches that faith in Christ will result in a changed life 2 Corinthians 5:15,17 Galatians 5:22-24 James 2:14-26.

@Ethan-jd3qt

4 ай бұрын

Repent of your sins is no where in the Bible.

@2Chronicles714_

4 ай бұрын

@@Ethan-jd3qt You are either a liar or never read the Bible

The Jews wore mad gentiles wore accepted into the new covenant today gentiles are mad other gentiles are accepted into the new covenant. Thank God he sows the good seed and not us.

Ephesian 2:8-9

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

Love those verses

@biblebinge

3 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 You deny these verses by rejecting free grace, the Bible cannot contradict itself.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

@@biblebinge I don’t deny free grace. I deny “free grace theology”, which is a completely different thing, exactly for the reason you mentioned: the Bible cannot contradict itself.

Those in the so called free grace movement would have one believe that belief in a few facts for 15 seconds 15 years ago is all that is required for salvation. Satan knows the facts as well so the belief of John 3:16 has to go further. It means to put your trust in Jesus Christ daily. It means that we repent or no longer sin but if we sin, we have an advocate in Jesus Christ (1 John 2).

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. But 15 seconds is already too much, they may argue. If you try to keep your faith for more than a “nanosecond” then it becomes a work you do. It becomes a work-based salvation, so you are not saved anymore. 🤦🏻

@robertemard9452

6 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 It's a fairly new false doctrine as you say which is a red flag in of itself. I can see Christians disagreeing with eschatology or with how to view the 10 commandments or maybe even ECT vs Annihilation, etc. But something like OSAS is so well directly refuted by the entire scriptures that it takes a certain amount of blindness or brain washing to swallow that one. Don't get me wrong - you can't accidentally burp out your salvation and God will discipline his children sometimes with great consequences to get them back on track; but God will never force one onto himself and into heaven.

@wib50

6 ай бұрын

Free grace is about personal trust in Christ. Not believing a few facts.

@robertemard9452

6 ай бұрын

@@wib50 I can live with that explanation. I would add "continuing" as in Colossians 1:23 "If you continue in your faith...".

@wib50

6 ай бұрын

@robertemard9452 yes, Paul said do not be removed from the hope of the gospel in that verse. So that is what he means by continuing.

Someone tell me why satan does not have salvation. With this answer we will settle free grace theology. I am looking for your answers, thanks you.

@kybersaber2088

Ай бұрын

Jesus did not die for the devil and his angels.

@Daven8

Ай бұрын

Good answer. Next: what happens to our sinful nature when in eternity with our Lord?

@kybersaber2088

Ай бұрын

@@Daven8 we will have incorruptible bodies and thus can’t sin.

@Daven8

Ай бұрын

Why bring our bodies into submission?

On the other hand what does it say in the Book of Revelation? Revelation 2:5 "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." We too are fallen and to compare our level of fallen-ness to that Muslem or that Jew or that backslidden Christian is not wise. My sins are stacked up as high as theirs when I consider both what I committed and omitted. Whatever my works I attempt for God or through God, I have no clue if God will accept them or despise them. He gives no indication at this point in my life if He will reward me for them or despise me for attempting to find trust in them instead of the free grace offered and provided in His cross alone. In fact I do not know if all my words on this you tube are pleasing or not to Him. Without that person who received Jesus Christ as a child then decided for some other religion or that one who's life thereafter was committed to every form of destruction of fellow man, in the final analysis is mine any better? Though I am no universalist I always wonder about Barabbas the murderer who went free while Jesus received the condemnation that Barabbas deserved. How can a murderer in a near death experience not go to Hell when he admitted He was such and had shot to death two people because he did not like them? Listen to the first minute of this => kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIel0tZ9Z8aric4.html Why did not did not this man split hell wide open when he left his body? Was God being merciful to this man who was confused because he knew and admitted he belonged in Hell? Or was God being cruel to this man by not sending him straight to Hell? Was this then an act of God's mercy or an act of God's wrath? What about Barabbas? What then do you trust to get you to Heaven? Do you trust Jesus and His free grace or do you trust some kind of merit that you purchased through your hard work and good deeds the right to claim grace? Yes I do not want to be fruitless in this life but I do not want to make myself out as being more worthy of Heaven and the grace of God than the most wicked persons in the world who maybe just maybe as a child once believed. Whatever my standing in Christ I do not want to have my prayers ignored here on earth ignored either. I am uncertain if I were to abuse my mercies on earth that it would be easy to get God to stop ignoring me which I struggle with all the time. Yet in the parable of the prodigal God welcomed the backslider back with open arms. I hope I have some works that may follow me into heaven and survive the Judgment seat of Christ. I do not want to be a tool God uses to destroy His mission fields on this earth while I stumble into Heaven like Manasseh son of Hezekiah.

your works can be proof to fleshly people of your salvation but works can also be fake and self righteousness

Was solomon saved?

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

I have no idea. Scripture is silent. That’s something that only God knows.

@wib50

6 ай бұрын

@thejerichoconnection3473 I think it pretty plain from scripture that no one deserves heaven. That was to the question if heaven is for those who deserve.

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

@@wib50 I agree. No one deserves heaven. It’s only because of God’s grace if we make it to heaven.

@johndoe.wutang4life.274

6 ай бұрын

Solomon was indeed saved. It's all over the Bible the Bible is not silent in anyway on that

@theeternalslayer

5 ай бұрын

Jesus descending into hell and preaching the gospel message to the dead in paradise, the idea wasn't just to "save" people from condemnation, it's to resurrect the dead and save them.from the second death. Even if we are born again we aren't "saved" yet. We have to abide in him we have to endure until either Jesus returns or our Mortal life ends. If Solomon was in paradise yes he is. It's easier to say "only God knows"😮

Once saved always saved is true when we are in heaven. In this world we have to go through a time in the desert and many will fall away 1 Cor 10. Paul says we are by grace invited and engrafted into the covenant community. And our allegiance/pistis to Christ is counted/logizo as our faithfulness to the covenant/dikaiosyne. Romans 3,28. It is not so that the believer gets a foreign righteousness imputed. The phrase Paul is using is a defined term in Second Tempel Judaism meaning "a certain behaviour is counted as faithfulness to the covenant". Therefore pistis must be translated as a behaviour, but neither faith nor faith alone are a behaviour. But this is no problem, for pistis also means faithfulness, obeying trust, allegiance. For further studies: Wikipedia: New Perspective on Paul. Or " Salvation by Allegiance alone" by Matthew Bates.

I expect you to not understand. You have your eyes on yourself and not Christ. Hardly if at all mentioned scripture and gave wisdom of men. “Logical” in man’s eyes. ”but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence.“ ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1‬:‭27‬-‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬ He did all the work…repent of your idea of repentance, turn from unbelief to belief in Christ ALONE and you can be saved. No religion will save you. Jesus Christ will. Romans is a good book. Romans 4:5 is something you should dwell on too.

Jesus Loves You

There is only ONE condition to receive eternal life according to the Word of God. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31). In contrast, there are multiple conditions for becoming a disciple or follower of Christ. Self-denial, fruitfulness, water baptism, hating your family, taking up your cross daily, loving others, etc. Whereas eternal life is a FREE GIFT, discipleship involves WORKS. Those who persevere in discipleship will be greatly rewarded in heaven, while those believers who fail to walk in discipleship will be ashamed at Christ's coming (1 John 2:28). Whereas eternal life is received once at the very moment a person places their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, the discipleship decision must be made repeatedly over one's lifetime. If you mix up salvation and discipleship, the result will be a false gospel of works which is an accursed message according to Gal. 1:6-9. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqSrlKN8etO7l5s.html

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

What you affirm is easily disproved by Scripture. There are at least two conditions: “He that believeth *and is baptized* shall be saved” (Mark 16:16). “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, *and be baptized* every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” (Acts 2:38)

also i love my journey of repentance and sanctification i just know it has not effect on my salvation

@2Chronicles714_

5 ай бұрын

Repentance and faith will save you.

Free gracers believe that all you have to do is change your mind or other words world view and believe in Jesus then your saved. They also believe in once saved always saved which I do too but if decide later on to change your mind again and say I don't believe anymore are you still saved if you do that? This makes absolutely no sense.

@spangledsky777

2 ай бұрын

I am not sure if this is even possible. If someone fully Trusts Jesus for their Salvation and is truly saved, The Holy Ghost is real and he can cause a believer a HUGE amount of pain in this life if they backslide or start to stumble into disbelief- so much mental pain that that person would probably relent before doing so or find their way back before death. This is also why I doubt that someone would turn their back on Jesus, become a Muslim then murder loads of people - I think the Holy Ghost would cause them so much pain they would relent - or he would end their life before doing anything too bad. I believe Jesus truly takes care of His own and helps them to stay Faithful. Even so I am not saying someone who did manage to commit a lot of sin and fall into unbelief will necessarily lose their salvation - nobody knows who is saved and who not as is stated in the letters of the NT.

"You don't care about repentance." Tell me, how does "repent" mean "repent for your sins" if God repented in Exodus and Jonah as God has no sins? Repent just means to change your mind or have a change of heart.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Words are not monoliths. Their meaning can vary according to the context and the people they refer to. METANOIA literally means “change of mind”. So when it refers to God, it simply means that God decided not to exercise the chastisement that he had previously threatened (God is not sinful, so God cannot repent of any sin). However, when the same word is applied to men, the idea of METANOIA is always associated with something they have done wrong. It’s in fact a repentance of sins. It means that men realize they did something terribly wrong before God and firmly resolve not to do it again because they understand the gravity of their offense to God. This is biblical repentance. Biblical repentance is not a simple acknowledgment of a truth that is discovered for the first time (belief vs unbelief). Biblical repentance, as I show in the video, is always associated with grief and penance.

@Noviraptor

Ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Penance? You a Catholic or something? Anyway, only the unbelievers are convicted of sin. The Law in general is to convict you so our foolish human minds can understand we need a Savior. John 16:7-9 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me;" God is the One who gives us faith, we cannot believe on our own. The faith is "His." I can't do anything of my own, if I do good works it is not I, though through Christ that works through me. The only reason I believe is by the grace of God. No way I, a foolish fleshly human can comprehend unless God works through me. Habakkuk 2:4 "Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith." John 6:29 "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."

@1Nathoo

23 күн бұрын

⁠@@NoviraptorThe Holy Spirit convicts believers of sins a-swell. Through ur Free grace theology, tell me what this verse means if Repentance means a change of mind. ”Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭17‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

@Noviraptor

22 күн бұрын

@@1Nathoo I don't care about theology or doctrine, all that is just vain human understanding that is of Satan. I go by what the Bible says and what Jesus chooses to reveal to me, spirit and truth. Though I will entertain your question as it is within your realm of understanding: The Greek word metanoeō used means "to change one's mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins."

@1Nathoo

22 күн бұрын

@@Noviraptor so u agree us humans are Repenting from sins ?

Intellect - Holy Spirit = "FREE GRACE Theology"

@thomaskangai2068

7 ай бұрын

Unsaved Self Righteous reprobate = "We Don't need free grace, we can earn our own salvation"

@Bro_Mike_Phil117

6 ай бұрын

You don't work for the Holy Spirit, so it must be free grace since grace is not of works. Your intellect took -100

justification and sanctification are seperate and we can only be sanctified if we are truly saved. we cannot be saved by our works and grace because Jesus is coming for a spotless bride not a bride wearing mixed fabrics. you can try to become spotless by repenting of sins perpetually but will always fail

Free grace is not heresy...the fact that our works are but filthy rags, means we add absolutely zero toward or maintaining our salvation ..by default placing our trust { belief } in the finished WORKS of Jesus Christ must be true for God's plan by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone is accomplished....the old man died { law } and am alive in christ { grace } abiding in this truth of his AMAZING GRACE, feasting as a son of the most high on the simplicity of the true gospel.

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

Would you consider “believing in the finished works of Jesus Christ for the rest of our life” as an example of filthy rag?

This doctrine is growing too which is scary I feel like the Bible prophesied this: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (1 Timothy 4:1) People don’t want to turn from their sin and follow Christ but they want to go to heaven and live like the rest of the world we should all mark and avoid this heresey

@havefaith4382

6 ай бұрын

the bible never says turn from sin also turning from your sin is impossible you are a pharisee hypocrite if you think you can or have stop sinning and the truth is not in you 1 John 1:8 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

@stevenaguilera9202

5 ай бұрын

@@havefaith4382 We are to SANCTIFY ourselves. Of course we cannot stop sinning completely. This is where sanctification comes in. It means to CLEANSE ONESELF FROM SIN OVER TIME until glorification comes in the next life. The Scriptures make a stark contrast between struggling in sin, and PRACTICING SIN. Do you know what Paul says about BELIEVERS who practice sin ? Does the prayer of a righteous man avail much if he sins a bunch ? How am I going to have a person who claims to follow Jesus, yet commits grave sins in his heart every day, pray for me ? What is his prayer going to do ? Free Grace makes 0 sense. Just like the blind man said to the Pharisees "We know that GOD does not listen to sinners." in John 9:31 When we are IN JESUS, we DON''T WANT and SHOULD NOT want to sin anymore. Otherwise what good is the Holy Spirit for ? It's to CONVICT us of our sin.

@havefaith4382

5 ай бұрын

@@stevenaguilera9202 the bible never said stop practicing sin thats impossible like i said you will sin until you are dead and 1 sin gets you thrown into hell 1 sin not practicing sin just 1 single sin also you are reading the wrong bible version read the king james not the evil satanic version ESV jesus is the only way he is the only door stop trying to get to heaven your own way there is only one way and thats jesus and through his sacrifice he paid for all of your sins ALL OF THEM you will not be boasting on judgement day christ will get all the praise for saving you it is not of your works salvation is a gift not a reward you do not earn salvation you do not earn a free gift

@stevenaguilera9202

5 ай бұрын

@@havefaith4382 I am not using the ESV but why would you call the Bible, evil ? Are you a Christian ? You're post doesn't make sense. When someone gives a gift to someone, that person receiving it NEEDS to keep it. It As long as you stay IN JESUS, you are eternally secure. However, it is the persons choice to walk in the ways of Satan if they choose to abandon the gift. 1 John 3:9 says that those born of God DO NOT sin. And the context here is about intention. We ARE NOT to intentionally sin no longer since OUR BODY is now continually to be sanctified and glorify God.

Jesus died on the cross to provide us a way to eternal life...why does everyone want to complicate a very simple message....you don't have to do anything, you didn't do anything....Jesus did it all....Jesus doesn't need us,we need him....let's not twist it

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

I agree that Jesus died to provide us a way to eternal life. I disagree that we don’t have to anything to inherit eternal life. At a bare minimum, we must maintain our belief in Christ until we die. Nobody can enter heaven apart from Christ. If we are not in Christ when we die, there’s no way we can enter.

Actually we dont need any debate upon this. Look at the fruit of what you believe in your life. Are you free from sin? Are you more focus on yourself rather than Jesus? Do you have the fruit of the Spirit without being conscious about it? A right belief will always lead to good fruit. If you are a parent do you think you want your child not to be secure in you? I dont really understand why this thing become so complicated. Religion always wants to complicate things.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

Are you saying you are not religious?

@jasonfabillar

3 ай бұрын

​@@thejerichoconnection3473 Yep. Look bro. I encountered the presence of the Holy Spirit and i was in fire for 3 days straight. I saw many healings and deliverance etc I even flow in the gifts of the Spirit. Im not saying that to boast or to prove. Im just saying i cannot experience those things if I don't believe in his finish work and relying upon myself. You received the Holy Spirit as a seal that you are saved when you believe in his finish work.

@jasonfabillar

3 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 You need to know the difference of the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. New covenant started when Jesus finished his work and rose again from the grave. He need to live under the Old Covenant so that he can buy us from law into the grace.

@jasonfabillar

3 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 If your gospel doesn't lead you to freedom, without joy, more self focus and sin concious your gospel is trash.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

@@jasonfabillar not sure why you think I don’t believe in the new covenant. You cannot be a Christian if you don’t believe in the new covenant. Also, why do you consider “religion” a bad word? I suspect you confuse religion with liturgy. Religion pertains to the worshiping of God. If you worship God you are automatically a religious person. “If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” James 1:26-27

Jesus was sent to the house of Israel...so His earthly ministry was under their old covenant...however under any time the just shall live by faith... Of course acknowledgeding we're a sinner and need to have Christs righteousness imputed to us is a prerequisite to believing the gospel... Like someone else pointed out this is the true gospel Paul Peter John Timothy etc preached...but judaizers came in and corrupted the chuches ...

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

in a word, we need to repent. Yes, repentance is preached throughout the NT.

@RobertMclaren68

4 ай бұрын

@thejerichoconnection3473 yes changing our minds from whatever we're believing in or even not believing in...to> believing the true gospel!🙏✝️

👍Once Saved Aways Saved for the Church. In 1John 3:6, when it says (Whoever abides in Him does not sin), that's talking about our (new man), our new man does not sin. When it says (Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor knows Him) that's talking about the person that's not saved. *Now look at 1JOHN 1:8, our flesh sins. *We can walk in darkness, 1JOHN 1:6, cross reference with Romans 13:12 The Lukewarm: Jesus could wish they were cold or hot not Lukewarm. =Revelation 3:15 The Lukewarm, are people who are not saved. *The Lukewarm people are naked, they have no garments on.= Revelation 3:17,18 *There are some believers that have defiled their garments, they are not naked= Revelation 3:4 Now go back to Revelation 3:21 = (to him who overcomes,) cross reference that with 1JOHN 5:4,5, (we overcome the world, through our faith.)

This is some hell bound reprobate .

Romans 4:5❤

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

James 2:24 ❤️ (You see how silly a Bible verse fight is?)

@erikfreezer6282

4 ай бұрын

​@thejerichoconnection347 Why you delete me? I come in love 3

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

@@erikfreezer6282 I didn’t delete your message. I saw it and then it was gone. Please, understand that I generally never delete any comments, even the most aggressive ones. If any comments get deleted, it’s likely because of YT glitches.

Bible verse not personal opinion

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

The list wouldn’t fit the comment section. Pretty much the entire NT is one great argument against free grace theology. Randomly: all Jesus’ parables and speeches in all four gospels, all Peter’s sermons in Acts, the entire first epistle of John, the entire epistle of James, 2 Peter 2, 1 Corinthians 6, Ephesians 5, Galatians 5 and 6, Romans 2, Hebrews 10, Revelation 3, etc.

You can't buy or earn your way into heaven....everyone wants to add to and make everything so complicated..its a no wonder Gods people are constantly locked in a constant purgatory

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

I agree. Nobody can buy or earn heaven.

@spangledsky777

2 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473What then is using your own efforts not to sin- if you cannot earn your way into Heaven then it is of Grace and Grace alone. I’m not saying people should sin - God forbid - Sin brings disaster on people and may end someone’s life early. Also for mature believers (or even for strong newer converts) behaving soberly and manifesting good works brings glory to God therefore hopefully converting non-believers when they see how good Christians can be. The opposite of Faith is Doubt. As soon as you doubt your salvation you feel the weight of all yours past and present sins. There is only one solution to this and that is to have unwavering Faith that you are saved no matter what. Many people who receive Salvation are weak and cowardly - they cannot turn form their sins, although they may have realised through the Word that they are sinners and thus turn to Jesus to be forgiven and sealed. Peter was Jesus disciple but he denied Him three times and later was reprimanded for his cowardliness in Acts (God knows I am not worthy to criticise St.Peter). In Jesus’ parable about the Tax Collector and the Pharisee - the Tax Collector did not go away, get another job, stop all his sinning, then come back to the synagogue as a changed, repented man- he REMAINED a Tax Collector and asked God for mercy whilst he was still wilfully sinning. The Pharisee tithed, fasted, tried to keep the law and purified himself. He was rejected.

This video is sad I will pray for this man 😢

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Can you please elaborate on why you think this video is sad? Did you actually watch the video?

We are to look Jesus Chist for everything according to the Bible and not ourselves or anybody else. Learn from Him.We follow Him . He walks ahead of us. He is the good shepherd. Our works are dirty rags. Pray and read the Bible. Many false prophets have gone out into the world. They point to themselves so that you will seek them.Read book of John. The Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth. Ask the Father for discernment and guidance. Nobody is strong enough to snatch us from Jesus hand. Our works is that we believe in the One God has sent. We have victory over all sin in Christ.

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for all your suggestions. The only thing I disagree with is that our works are dirty rags. This is a typical misconception. Isaiah was talking about the Israelites that had fallen out of God’s grace because of their idolatrous practices. No works is acceptable to God when we are not in his grace. However, once we are in God’s grace our works, performed in faith, are not filthy rags anymore. They are pleasing to God. Do you think God justified us through grace by faith in order to produce filthy rags?

@luly5915

2 ай бұрын

I don't trust in my works to lead me to salvation only in Jesus. He will lead me to do what pleases the Father, but I must abide in Him.Apart from Him I could do nothing. In Him I will bear much fruit. It pleases the Father that I bear much fruit. I don't have to watch the fruit I trust and look to Jesus my Lord and Savior to complete the work in me.

@thejerichoconnection3473

2 ай бұрын

@@luly5915 glad to know you didn’t buy into the free grace theology heresy.

Salvation is Gods free gift to us so we need to receive it. As sinful human beings we stand condemned to perish for eternity, only by receiving everlasting life can one receive salvation from eternal punishment. Jesus is the Son of God, the promised Christ, who died on the cross for our sin and rose again, he removed the sin barrier between us and God, so that everyone who believes in Him shall, never perish but, have everlasting life. His promise to those who believe in Him for it, is that you shall, never perish, never hunger, never thirst, never come into judgement and have everlasting life. God said it. Believe it. Romans 6:23 John 1:12 John 3:16-17 John 6:35 Romans 4:20-22 (NKJV) 20 He did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to perform. 22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Totally agree.

Take it up with God He alone made it a free gift it was his idea plan his will his love for us to do so Reject it and you call God a liar 1st John 5 v 10

so, you are accusing us as they accused paul? a license to sin? romans 3:8 buddy.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

In fact, I’m not. You likely didn’t watch the vid.

@jamesvan2201

3 ай бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 sounds like it to me. You don't have to say it to say it. When you say things like "turn from sin to be saved" that is exactly what you are saying. P.s. I watched the entire video. I can read between lines also.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

@@jamesvan2201 before reading between the lines, it would be wise to pay attention to what’s on the lines. I clearly stated that free gracers do not say you should not perform good works, but at the sane time they say good works have nothing to do with your final destination in heaven.

@jamesvan2201

3 ай бұрын

@thejerichoconnection3473 because they don't. Good works are not how we earn salvation. But God working through us. When you tell someone that they will have good works when they are "truly saved" it causes them to focus on their works to see if they are truly saved. Thereby causing one to focus on works for salvation. It's the same thing calvinists say. Yours is just another way of saying it.

Built out of nowere??? Have you ever heard of the reformation??

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

None of the reformers believed in free grace theology, which was invented not more than 100 years ago, maybe less.

@wib50

3 ай бұрын

​@@thejerichoconnection3473marten Luther's whole premise was soli fida, or faith alone.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

@@wib50 Luther’s sola fide is not the same as free grace theology. Ask a Lutheran if you can lose your salvation and you’ll see for yourself.

Ephesian 2: 8-9 John 3:16 is that easy and fundamental. Paul says it's his gospel we need to go by. It's that simple. Understand this Jesus was speaking to Jewish Christians and only to the house of Israel is through Paul that he sent to the Gentiles. Stop trying to change what it is already written. God has made it simple so He gets the glory glory

@thejerichoconnection3473

Ай бұрын

Wait, if John 3:16 is the gospel of Paul (and not of Jesus) for the Gentiles, why is Jesus teaching it to a Jew?

Faith without works is dead. Free grace is not sola fide taken to its logical conclusion because anyone who holds to a true notion of sola fide knows works must follow faith. Free grace is actually a perversion of sola fide. Nice try.

@thejerichoconnection3473

3 ай бұрын

Yes, faith without works is dead. I totally agree with you. However, once you start playing with these cheap slogans, “sola fide!”, which don’t really mean what they mean, you shouldn’t get surprised when people take you literally, run away with your cheap slogan, and bring it to the most extreme conclusions. Free grace theology, as perverted as it is, is a natural evolution of Protestantism.

Eph 2: 8-9 For it is by free grace (God's unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment {and} made partakers of Christ's salvation) through [your] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God; The Philippian Jailor… Acts 16:31 And they answered, Believe in the Lord Jesus {Christ} [give yourself up to Him, take yourself out of your own keeping and entrust yourself into His keeping] and you will be saved, [and this applies both to] you and your household as well. This guy is mixing Calvinism with Free Grace.. He is preaching doctrines applicable to the tribulation... Learn the bible pal..

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

No worries, both Calvinism and free grace theology are false doctrines.

@vicglazewski5928

4 ай бұрын

Sorry Free Grace is NOT a false theology.. Its all about what Jesus Christ did NOT what we can do.. Never has been.. Rightly divide the word.. The Books that apply to the Church age, TO US ONLY are Romans to Philemon... Hebrews to Revelation apply to the Tribulation on and Acts is a transition to the Age of GRACE... Know how to rightly divide mate...(and one more thing... How much of you works is enough???)

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

@@vicglazewski5928 sorry I don’t follow dispensationalism nonsense either. Free grace, Calvinism, dispensationalism are all man made traditions that literally nullify the Word of God.

@vicglazewski5928

4 ай бұрын

@ichoconnection3473 Dispensations are NOT nonsense.. Its fact.. No wonder your teachings are confusing & contradictory...Just shows that you proved that you do not know the Bible... 2 Timothy 2: 15 NKJV Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth...It says RIGHTLY DIVIDE the WORD of TRUTH...and also to Prove & reprove what you teach in Hebrews 4: 12....We are in the Age of Grace a dispensation which is the mystery until ACTS the transitional book...The books of Romans to Philemon apply TO US NOW... Please stop misleading people you preach to..As for dispensations to be man made doctrines please stop the crap.. So tell me when are you going to build an ark?? or are you still sacrificing animals? or are you going to build a tabernackle?? You are an ignorant preacher and thats so sad..

@thejerichoconnection3473

4 ай бұрын

@@vicglazewski5928 no, actually 2 Tim 2:15 doesn’t say “divide” in the sense of “butcher”. The Greek term is ORTHOTOMEO which means “handle correctly.” (Stop basing your theology on a weak translation of kjv) Paul is not teaching to butcher the word of God (this book is for me, this book is not for me) but to handle it and explain it correctly.

Paul is the author of Free grace. You are saying Jesus is a lyer and paul

john 6:37

@thejerichoconnection3473

6 ай бұрын

What about it?

The bible literally says free grace Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

@thejerichoconnection3473

17 күн бұрын

True. In fact, I’m not rejecting grace, which is by definition free. I’m rejecting “free grace theology”, which is a distortion of the gospel. Two completely different things.

@brianbrowning5680

17 күн бұрын

I don't. If God is who he says he is, our father who is in heaven and adopted us (Ephesians 1:5), would God then go on and abandon a child who he chose to adopt in the first place? Or would he be patient with us and help us work through our problems?

@brianbrowning5680

17 күн бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 A disobedient son is still a son.

@thejerichoconnection3473

17 күн бұрын

@@brianbrowning5680 absolutely. However, if the son is totally unrepentant and stubbornly rejects his father grace, mercy, and forgiveness, there’s no place the son unfortunately will end up other than hell. Keep in mind the parable of the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32). The son that goes astray was still a son, but Jesus says he was “dead”. Of course, since the son was physically alive, Jesus is talking about spiritual death. Did the father stop loving his son and waiting for his return? No! However, the son was dead. Only when he converted, repented, turned around and went back to his father with a contrite heart to ask for mercy, only then he became alive again. Unrepentant sin leads us to spiritual death, no matter if we are sons or not. Repentance leads us to life.

@brianbrowning5680

17 күн бұрын

Remeber, we established grace is free. If you have to do something to earn it, it isn't free. It's a reward. Heaven is God's gift to give, not our reward to earn. Ephesians 2:8-9.