Certified is about 80 years behind experimrntal and for the rich.

Great show, short and succinct, thanks.

New to the channel, awesome information. Much appreciated!

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Hank! Welcome! Thanks for watching!

You just answered my questions. I'm low time pilot and an airplane is on the brink of affordability. Im going to back in to this flying thing. I cant wait. Hopefully I can find an RV i can fit in. Thank you for the video!!!

Thank you for the information

Thanks for doing this video. I appreciate you sharing. I’m a PPL wishing I owned.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

If you can swing it, its a crazy good lifestyle!

You hit on some key points. I've been around experimental aviation for many years and I have acquired the skills necessary for maintaining a homebuilt. The condition inspection by an A & P is just that. It does NOT leave he or she liable for anything if something untoward happens the next day. I like " steam gauges " because I find them comforting I guess over digital. I also like the look though I do use Avare Aviation GPS for 99 or more percent of my navigation. Now..on a different note..I consider myself an Aviator more than a pilot. I can and have flown some very nice modern aircraft and they have their place but....I prefer the classics and vintage factory builts. There is still a " golden age of aviation " alive and well if one takes the time to look and experience it. Just my 2? cents worth.

I've got a Long EZ. I just needed to replace the crankshaft seal. A&Ps quoted me about $1k to replace, but he couldn't get to it for another 6 weeks. I did it myself for a $15 seal and $100 tool, in about 2 hours of work. I'm also building a new panel for it using the Garmin G3X and a 300XL GPS. Using some used pieces, I'm less than $5k into it now. It would be 3-4 times that amount to put glass into a certified aircraft.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Ditto! Get a new A&P!

@doranjaffas9645

5 жыл бұрын

EatPezzzz I'm 58. Been Aviating for 35. Though I like my Aviation GPS...I like the old school gauges in the panel. Venturi driven suction anyone? Yes!!

Nice video. Are there any fright restrictions on experimental?

What do you think about the sonex as a beginner’s airplane ( time builder)?

Did you build that plane? How much did it cost? What is the name of it?

We can sign off our own annuals in Canada. So if everything checks out and the plane needs nothing, the cost can be as little as $80 for oil and filter plus time of course. A couple items that do need a certified check when due are the ELT and the transponder.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

That would be so nice!

@jeffcard3623

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know, as a Canadian who is considering flying in the future.

Are there restrictions flying hard IFR at night when flying experimental?

What about training? Could be a CFI and use your experimental airplane to teach students?

Do you have any idea, how much will cost me ,to put a VAN RV 10 toghether.I will buy the parts and I need some people to put it together for me and I can help.

Could answer what might be a stupid question how is the difference in insurance between the two

So you want to trust electronic ignition over a mag?

Bro I wish lived in Or near Colorado to get a free ride .Great tutorial .

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Id give ya one!

How are the insurance rates for experimental versus certificated aircraft?

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

For 100K in hull value and 1MM per incident with 500 hours in type its about 800 per year.

Were you able to find a plug and play GPS for your Garmin 150XL? I have a 300XL, and would love to upgrade as well..

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Still looking! I'll do a video when I figure out what I'm going to do. thanks for watching!

Great video! My personal objective is becoming a pilot and fly my own aircraft. Although I earn decent money as aero engineer, I still find it a challenge to support both family and this passion. How do you do it?

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

It’s all about priorities! Renting and learning online can do a lot to cut down the price of it all. Good luck to you!

A few years ago, Canada introduced the Owner Maintenance Category, where many older aircraft could be essentially decertified and become experimental. It seems like the best of both worlds with one major problem: it's illegal to fly them to the US. It would be really cool if the EAA could talk the FAA into going for something like that.

@theav8rs45

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree! I'm not an A/P, but I could certainly do an annual.

i did not checked how electronic ignition is built, but mechanical+electronic makes sense. if u'll catch good shortage/shock - both of them will burn and probably fiberglass blade u will need to rotate by yourself out of the cockpit (:

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

The problem with 1 mech and one electric is that they won't be timed the same. I get the whole reliability thing. The electronic mags have a generator in them that produces enough current at 600RPM to run the ignition. Love them!

@danblumel

4 жыл бұрын

@@theav8rs45 I have a Light Speed Engineering Plasma 2 in my Glasair 1RG plus 1 mag, it works great, the Electronic fires slightly in advance of the mag, running with both on is slightly better than the electronic alone. It's not a problem at all.

Are there any limitations on where you can fly an experimental aircraft?

@danblumel

4 жыл бұрын

No restrictions any more than a certified airplane similarly equipped.

I have been considering getting a pilot's license for some time now for when I retire. And have strongly considered an LSA. Although I have found most of the modern LSA aircraft are quite expensive. What are your take on antique LSA aircraft like An Ercoupe or a J-3 Piper Cub? Both can be quite cheap planes to purchase although I have found the most expensive ercoupe is the price of the heapest J-3. And I know that both are 80+ year old designs

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with LSA! If you're going to do day trips, its a great option. My Luscombe qualifies as LSA. My goal when I bought it was to turn it in to a cheaper LSA alternative, and I;ll probably sell it to an LSA pilot. Go get your ticket and if you want to get advanced ratings, its a perfect springboard! Thanks for watching and good luck to you!

I guess it depends on what you want to do but I have always liked the Garmin 430 waas system.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Love the 430 and the Avidyne 440. I just don't have room for one.

If your 180 HP engine dinos at 213 HP, is a High Performance endorsement required to fly that aircraft?

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Vaughn - I think the FAA goes off the data plate. But I’m not completely sure. In any event the HP endorsement is pretty easy. Thanks for the question and for watching.

How are you allowed to fly at night in a experimental? I thought only daytime flying was permitted.

@PurveyorOfCuriosities

3 жыл бұрын

Day time flight is only a restriction of the Sport Pilot category. If this gentleman is a private pilot, he can fly his plane at night. the RV-7A is not an LSA by design, but even if it was, a Private Pilot has no day time restriction.

I remembered my dad paid almost 30k for an annual on his 210

Something I've not heard mentioned is mogas.

What about reselling a certified aircraft vs experimental if you think your gonna sell / upgrade in five years?

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think there's a huge difference. Unless you're selling brand new airplanes then the price to entry will be significantly higher for new ones!

@caseyrumfelt513

5 жыл бұрын

The AV8R's I am in the market and I struggle with my “mission”. We are a family of five but how often will we all make a trip together??? I’m obsessed with the Glasair III but that will make it solely a toy and work trip airplane. To add to the confusion I have a plane that won’t be in production and available for purchase for another five years (www.raptor-aircraft.com). So I’m just trying to figure it out. Appreciate the video, and let’s go flying together! 😁

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

@@caseyrumfelt513 I flew my Bonanza roughly 4,000 hours. I can count on one hand the number of times I actually needed all 4 seats. I'd take a hard look at the RV-10. Thanks for watching!

@danblumel

4 жыл бұрын

@@theav8rs45 I prefer higher wing loading and more flexible wing, much smoother in turbulence than RV's. "Fast Glass" is where it's at.

You can do so much more with an Experimental when It comes to modifications. Draco is a perfect example.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah - It's a great series he did and an incredible plane! I saw today he's starting a new cub project. It'll be fun to watch. He's an incredibly talented guy! Thanks for the comment and for watching!

@brent1041

5 жыл бұрын

Draco is actually a certified plane. I believe he got a waiver with a ton of restrictions that allowed him to modify it. Unless him tearing it down all the way to rebuild it turned him into the manufacture

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

I think its experimental exhibition. So he has a set area he can fly and then has to notify the FAA if he leaves that designated area.

@randyvanvliet226

5 жыл бұрын

@@theav8rs45 I think the Patey brothers have a proven track record with building experimental planes. As such, being great innovators in aviation, with the awards and advancements in aviation... the FAA just leaves them alone, unless there was to be a complaint of some sort. Both brothers are too smart for that to happen.

so true

Great story

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fritz!

Are there any 6 seater experimental aircrafts??

@nunyabuizness2953

4 жыл бұрын

You might be able to get away with making a Bearhawk into a six seater at the expense of cargo room.

@nicholasboscaino6262

4 жыл бұрын

Check out Velocity VTwin. Velocityaircraft.com. right now you can only buy the 5 place Kit but I have the word of the owner of the company that they are building a 3 row 6 seater. The cabin will be displayed at Oshkosh this year. Twin redundancy and it is spin resistant. As far as I am concerned it is the safest piston aircraft out there with awesome performance range and utility.

@reinhart482

3 жыл бұрын

I would love a 6 seat experimental like a pa-32 but faster and more aerodynamic

Is your RV IFR legal?

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

No. I need to install and additional radio and CDI. Thanks for watching!

I just sold my bonanza . ( Last annual was 7k ) 4k has probably been the average . I owned it for 17 years . Retired now and just cant afford to dish out that kinda money anymore . When you said $1300 annual for your RV it put a big smile on my face . I am seriously looking at buying an Rv 6a or 7a so your insight was most helpful . I also want a glass cockpit and was amazed at how affordable an EFIS /GPS/synthetic vision unit for experimentals is . whats the cruise speed on your 7 and is that a CS prop ? thanks

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

I typically cruise around at 180-200Mph'ish. If you can swing it the bigger rudder on the 7 is a game changer. The prop is a ground adjustable. I leave it at fast cruise pitch and burn about 8gph. I still owned my V35B when I bought this. The 7 is 20mph faster and burns a lot less fuel.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, and thanks for watching!

Tripod! Loved the video though.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew - I have one but I always forget to use it! Thanks for watching!

No one is selling a Dornier Do 335 I'll have to build one

You've forgot about basic communication. Speaking to NEW or non pilots you've got to decipher the jargon or else the information gets overhead of most and fast. What's an IA? What's an annual?

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

I thought about going into detail but didn’t want the video to go an hour. I’m going to do another video on that. Maybe some basic pilot lingo. Thanks for the comment and for watching!

@Sokeresa

4 жыл бұрын

Ia - inspection agent Annual - le your car's yearly inspection

Just in performance hp to hp an experimental blows the doors off certified aircraft.

I ordered an experimental airplane recently, and the advantages are much more than this video mentions. For example, he said you can get a certified airplane that does whatever an experimental airplane can, but that's not true. For example, I can fly my tiny 2-seat airplane from California to Hawaii non-stop with 1000 mile safety margin to spare (without ferry tanks or other aftermarket products or stealing cargo volume or passenger seat). The point being, there are experimental airplanes out there that can do things no certified airplane can, my example being just one. Frankly, this should not be surprising. It costs a boatload of money to get an airplane certified (necessarily raising the price substantially), plus the certified airplane (and its components) cannot be upgraded without going through more expensive, time-consuming hassles.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

What Kit did you order?

@maxbootstrap7397

5 жыл бұрын

@@theav8rs45 : A Pipistrel Virus SW with 912iS engine, 300-liter fuel tanks (in wings), pretty much all available Dynon avionics based on HDX1100. I am not aware of any other small 2-seat airplane that can fly 5500km without refueling. It is feasible to fly even further at "economy speed" (~250kph) instead of "cruise speed", but for very long flights the usual desire is to get there as quickly as reasonable, which is 275kph "cruise speed" @ 75% power). Amazingly, this airplane has a service ceiling of 23,500 feet. Not sure if or how it can get that high, but that's the rating. However, it is nice to be able to get up fairly high to get into smoother air, or faster tailwind, or slower headwind... or just because flying higher tends to get better fuel economy (less drag). I have an oxygen tank and Mountain High pulse on demand oxygen system so I can fly high when desired. PS: I'm getting mine fully assembled, not a kit. But they do sell it as a kit too. The 3 main reasons I bought this airplane are: bush flying (for which I got extra Beringer wheels/brakes/26"_Tundra_tires), long range flying (for which I got the 300-liter tanks), and because the airplane gets 50~70 mpg (on automobile fuel) so I can actually afford to fly long trips. Plus, I'm taking the Rotax 912 service course so I can perform all the common work (oil, plugs, hoses, simple-stuff, etc). Buying a $4,000 tent hangar from China and setting up on the rural land of another pilot. Hopefully all or most of my "make owning and flying cheap" tricks work. After 6 months of flying all around the western USA and Canada [and Baja]... my plan is to fly down to the Atacama Desert and Atacama Andes in southern Peru, southwestern Bolivia, northern Chile, northwestern Argentina to spend several months exploring the extreme desert/mountain boonies flying low and slow... and some bush/short/STOL landing a hiking in awesome spots too. Then I plan to spend a few months flying across the south pacific with stops on dozens and dozens of small remote islands (some with small populations, some with zero populations). Just now trying to get up to speed on DJI Osmo Pocket cameras that I plan to mount 4 or 5 of (inside waterproof housings) on the airplane to shoot video.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Sound like a plan! 14 hours to Hawaii against the wind! Your a tougher dude than I am! Thanks for watching!

@maxbootstrap7397

5 жыл бұрын

@@theav8rs45 : Yeah, that's quite a long flight. But that's the price of being able to fly anywhere on the planet in my airplane (a few long hops). As it turns out, it looks like only 2650km (or 3000km at most) is required to fly across the south pacific... so a little better. And that's the only hop that long. Once one gets west of Easter Island, islands are a lot closer together (usually only hundreds of kilometers)... so much easier. Note that I've taken a commercial flight that lasted about 14 hours... twice. Yup, those were long flights. In this case, that's the price for weeks or months of awesome fun and exploration. You have a really good channel... just discovered it recently.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Max!

Is it an urban legend that if you build an experimental aircraft, you can't sell it? Correct me if I am wrong, If you sell it then you are considered the manufacturer, therefore if something fails and causes a crash, you are liable.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

The reality is that anyone can sue anyone. I bought mine already built. There were some things on the plane that I had re-done. I think if you are going to buy an experimental, it’s incumbent on you to make sure the quality of the build is to your standard. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

10:34 break down between experimental and certified... You're welcome 😁

Good content, but your editing is so irritating. You sound like you are interrupting yourself.

I hope this is not poor.

Experimentals have restrictions that certified lack. That's what has me leaning toward certified.

couldn't finish watching cause I was so bored... good info though.

@theav8rs45

5 жыл бұрын

HAHA! Thanks for bearing through it!

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