Excellent.... all distinguished guests have explained their point of view beautifully and elegantly but Madam Jessica is outstanding in all aspects... Thanks 🙏.

EN: There was a lack of greater identification of the panelists, associating their institutional affiliation and one of their writings, whatever it may be, that defines their own feeling of themselves. ES: Faltó mayor identificacion de los panelistas, asociar su afiliación institucional y uno de sus escritos, cuallquiera que sea, que defina su su propio sentir de sí mismo.

Eckhart Tolle should join this discussion. Intense presence - The one and only God. Moving deeply into the Now ...

@TheGuiltsOfUs

2 жыл бұрын

lmao

@PaulHoward108

2 жыл бұрын

Tolle has no clue.

@kaceobrwa7039

2 жыл бұрын

everything he speak is stolen from upanishads

This was a good discussion, but felt like it was 10 pounds in a 5 lb bag. You could go deeper on one question, or less panelists. But I love that these discussions are happening

Great !!

No two people have ever even mentioned the same "God".

The African tradition is very interesting. The idea that a perfect being doesn't need worship is a good example, which could be used as counter apologetic against Christian apologists and their constant appeal to intuition. 58:10 I don't see how an individual versions of a God is a bit like studying the same universe. "Clearly they are, but they gonna get really different pictures." Now, are they? Is this actually analogous or a false analogy? The hallmark of science is to get to the same conclusion every time, independent of perspective.

Powerful point Dr Molefe

Here are questions that I think they may be in a relationship. Are God and Evils are inside every human? Are more Gods created in the good time only or both (bad time and good time)? Are evils created in the bad time only? lying in Love, Hate and Forgiven (Energies).

@itsmenotyou7526

2 жыл бұрын

+/- Balances out ?

@vitr1916

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsmenotyou7526 like a mixer?

@itsmenotyou7526

2 жыл бұрын

@@vitr1916 Yes but still distinct in that one doesn't overpower the other so they never quite blend completely together.

A Hindu philosopher would be Cherry on top.

@HumblyQuestioning

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's pretty clear what is meant by that comment and it is sad that's how it is.

@sunset2.00

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Diverse practice s n thoughts n philosophies in the indic region .

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

That would be one nasty-tasting cherry

Nice discussion

If a man were to worship and nurture a tree, and prayed every day for that tree to bear him fruit for consumption, and that tree did bear him good fruit: Then that tree would be his god. Since the tree is real and existing that would mean that his god is a real and existing god. Christians worship the Supreme God which is, ‘the cause of all creation’. Love of Christ in our hearts leads to community’s prayers which are answered with blessings including prosperity. The Holy Spirit gives us moral strength and is recognized as the Christian communities guiding influence. From a science perspective; ‘the cause of all creation’, originates from the laws of Nature. Social morals and ethics give rise to a stable society capable of social endeavors. In addition, Emotional Intelligent is responsible for the needed communication in any complex social environment. From a scientific viewpoint the worshiped Christian God is a real and existing Supreme God. Sustaining the universe, this all-powerful, present and knowing God is described by the Laws of Nature. The included source of All -Good is made evident when the Laws of Nature are used solely for the benefit of man’s survival and prosperity. The Holy Spirit accommodates this process of moral goodness and advanced communication. With this understanding, Atheism is no longer considered rational as there is now scientific evidence for the opposite view. It must be said that this view of God is not the regular supernatural view of God since science does not associate with the supernatural. With this understanding the Christian God is a real, existing God; Not supernatural. It is the lack of knowledge of the natural universe that has led to the terms, ‘supernatural’ and ‘miraculous’, to explain the unknown. Many Believers will not comprehend or endorse this view of a non-supernatural supreme God. Regardless, science evidence reveals that, 'Worshiping Christ which is in your heart leads to answered prayers'.

Jessica didn't mention Charvaks, a branch of Indian philosophy that is atheist, materialist, and deeply skeptical (eg rejection of inductive arguments). I think I understand why she chose Buddhism to stand in contrast to Brahminism but there are still ontological claims in traditional Buddhism not far away from Advaita Vedanta.

@dsbdsb6637

2 жыл бұрын

Because she was representing Hindu Philosophy & thus she focused & tried to bring forth ideas from it relevant to the discussion instead of leading the debate away from the topics by going into details of various Indic traditions & communities.

Give Robert Kuhn a Nobel.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

Robert is a member of the propaganda arm of the atheist communist party of China

Wow! Quite a surprise!

When in doubt say God did it. It's more comforting than We don't know.

@matishakabdullah5874

2 жыл бұрын

What one shall do if one fall sick ? Find medicine. So what is the medicine for "don't know illness"?

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

@@matishakabdullah5874 alcoholism, drug addiction and lots of masturbation.

Thank you very much, the information and arguments were easily digestible manner. And yes, I believe in God,my moral compass and maker. FAITH is a results in conciesness subjectively, as well as our objective selves.

@erikhviid3189

2 жыл бұрын

The Christian God ? Moral compass ? Exodus 21 (slavery), Noah’s flood (genocide), burning in Hell for eternity (pure evil) ......

@marcparenteau2902

2 жыл бұрын

faith is not a good thing. It makes people gullible; like believing that you are special and able to communicate with nonexistent gods and deserving of a nonexistent afterlife if you believe the dumbest, cruelest, and disgustingly immoral written ideas in our world's holy texts(bible, quran, tora, etc) A 12-year child of today could write a better and more moral book benefiting humankind.

Love this channel and its approach to recognizing all the different inferences about a particular subject, that said, it seems strange that Christianity (the largest religion in the world), would not be represented. Certainly the nature of the Christian God has some serious distinctives from both Judaism and Islam. Trinitarian, all-loving, mercy are three such distinctives. Perhaps it was left out because it’s been covered so significantly in the past 18 seasons.

Stop debating 'Mysticism' if you want to do a honest comparative assessment of religious beliefs.

I am. He is. God is the most intuitive and basic idea we start our lives with. Children make one mind of parents and objects and believe they exist because they are good. Santa Claus exists because he is good. Is there a spirituality without being childlike ?

@ayoubzahiri1918

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, take a ayahuasca ceremony trip and you'll wake up

@Ace0555

2 жыл бұрын

Lol or dmt?

There have been many gods over the ages yet only one Creator.

@TheGuiltsOfUs

2 жыл бұрын

Delusion

@wthomas7955

2 жыл бұрын

The idea that there was a "creator" of some sort is a ridiculous concept.

@chyfields

2 жыл бұрын

@@wthomas7955 Over two thirds of the world would argue that the idea we don't exist within the Creator's creation is ridiculous. The mere fact that everything has purpose would suggest the majority is correct

@wthomas7955

2 жыл бұрын

@@chyfields Evolution requires that everything has a purpose. It is all about survival. There's no "creator". It's a silly idea. And yes, two thirds of the world have been brainwashed since early childhood. People with functioning brains have figured out what that game is though.

@chyfields

2 жыл бұрын

@@wthomas7955In my dreams, I can create a material world with different characters and creatures, with causation and continuity. I think our Creator created our reality, using a similar but superior methodology.

The Hindu trinity comprises Brahma, the creator; Vishnu, the preserver and Shiva , the destroyer). Their trinity existed much, much longer before the Christian's. Why did not the expert on Indian' religions speak out when the topic was raised, or rather, dismissed?

@dsbdsb6637

2 жыл бұрын

Oh & also Family as well as ancestor worship too are central components in Hinduism but i believe she was more interested in presenting interesting philosophical ideas than highlighting Hindu beliefs which were comparable with other traditions.

"Arguments that rationally demonstrate the existence of God", you can't rationally "demonstrate" the existence of anything, rationality argues for or against something it doesn't demonstrate, that would be empiricism.

the truth can only be define by Logic, the past made up who we are, when we look at the past and asking for God, we just looking at what already been define be some one else's Logic, we can not fine the truth there. I hope I don't confuse a lots of peoples

The science method uses the real physical world when determining experiments and definitions of the natural universe. The view of Causality as an unknown natural event has led to the evidence of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit effects Christian life by dwelling within believers, guiding them into a righteous and faithful life. Any definition that describes the Holy Spirit as a feeling; a presences, an influence or guiding companion, has a natural event for Causality associated with this effect. Science has confirmed the benefits of being spiritual as seen in the studies by Harold G. Konenig; 'Religion, Spirituality, and Health'. Spirituality of religious people has proven health benefits over the non-spiritual. Spirituality's association with diminished egocentrism is responsible for the successful communications found in every culture and society. Emotional Intelligence includes; self-regulation, motivation, empathy and social skills. All of these traits arise naturally from successful Religious Systems in the form of individuals developing into Spiritual persons. Science studies prove the existents of the 'Holy Spirit' by means of the benefits associated with the Holy Spirit. Scientific evidence for the existence of the Christian God has been found.

Put your definition of the word god here:

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

BS!

@itsmenotyou7526

2 жыл бұрын

Easy, Fly's in the sky and is made of Spaghetti.

@IAlephI

2 жыл бұрын

The Creator

@juju5000

2 жыл бұрын

An empirically undetectable disembodied personality that centrally plans the universe

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

Spirit, Love.

I am curious as you why you did not bring an indigenous Hindu scholar, to discuss the Hindu/Dharmic point of view. I see a Jewish rabbi discussing Jewish point of view, a Muslim discussing Muslim point of view. Why not a Hindu discussing a Hindu point of view ? I sense some hypocrisy here !!

@CloserToTruthTV

2 жыл бұрын

Please see - kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXh2q85viL2uh5c.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2x7j5SFaMe_fZs.html. More coming!

@mohitkumbhat

2 жыл бұрын

@@CloserToTruthTV Thank you for the ones you shared. But my main question was, if African philosophy is represented by a scholar from Africa, Muslim philosophy from a Muslim country, Jewish philosophy from Israel, then why Hindu/Sanatan Dharm philosphy from Oxford ? There are many brilliant Indian scholars (from India, staying in Indian or displaced to USA, etc) who are experts in all 6 'Darshans' + 3 non-Vedic ones. I am sure that the Indology scholar here is a good one though ! I am hopeful you will include indigenous scholars in some of your inter-faith dialogues. Pranam. Namaste !

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

Closer to truth should do an episode on the enslavement of the uighur Muslims.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

You do all of this pandering for views within the God Paradigm all of the time. Sending out your militant trolls and causing a straw man fight that shouldn't exist. Having to tear down false arguments and defend the Bible. Making hundreds of thousands of words in thousands of comments defending the idea that God does not support slavery and the Bible doesn't teach it. Meanwhile, Robert, is a member of the propaganda arm of the atheist communist party of China who is the largest slave holder in the universe. Do an episode on hypocracy. I double dog dare you.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

KZread comment sections are a propaganda machine and closer to truth is a broken old dusty one.

Many atheists' try to argue against God by attacking the beliefs of manmade religions and the contradictions that are inherent within them. This is pointless because the existence of God does not depend on any of these religions or belief systems. I believe that humans are hardwired to know that they have a Creator but really know little else about such a deity. Through our consciousness man tries to form some conduit through which they may know God. Man will often come together in community with others who have shared beliefs and from this the great religions have come to be. We truly have no way to know the true nature of God. An exception may be for those who have had direct contact but we have no way of knowing if they actually did. I believe that a rational conscious person can look at the complexities of life, the universe and the incredibly exact natural laws that allows all to exist. Most will come away from such observations fairly certain that this all didn't happen by accident. A higher power set all in motion, a power that is outside our temporal existence and is not subject to the laws we live by. Such a power is called "God" but may be very different than our many interpretations. God is the original mover, the first cause, and does not need to be created. As my devote mother used to say "God was, is and always will be".

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

In other words, you were indoctrinated from birth, can't even imagine rational parents raised their kids with the notion God is only and idea and many people are still superstitious, or they work in humanitarian organizations, because they can't find something better to do with their lives.

@TheBruces56

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 I was far from "indoctrinated", in fact I am not active in any organized religion. However, that has nothing to do with my knowing that I have a creator, a power far beyond my understanding. Many never exposed to any religion come to the same conclusion through their own consciousness. Maybe you will be one of them.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBruces56 that KZread account is a member of China's 50 Cent Army. You are commenting with a propagandist.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBruces56 Perhaps try to focus on your mama and your papa, figure out how they did the creator's job. We were all created because humans are around for some time. They didn't get born from other humans, but they evolved from other species. And more fact, only our body was born at first, our self perception evolved over first years of growth. So not only you were not created by God, everybody creates himself, in a sense we're building up our personality since our brains became capable enough for intelligent perception.

@TheBruces56

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 These concepts are obviously a little too deep for you to understand. I am reminded of something someone once said to me and it may inform you. "The first thing you need to know about a higher power is that it isn't YOU!" I do wish you the best in your life's journey

Ahura Mazda is feeling left out.

It is normally accepted that God knows the WHOLE future and is here interacting with us. You should distinguish between "possible futures" (that God could maybe modify) and "THE ONE actual future" (including the modifications by God) that will ACTUALLY take place. Thus, God is supposed to perfectly know that One future which will ACTUALLY come true. Once again, that actual future is ALREADY AMENDED in accordance with the God's wishes. But this implies a SEPARATION of God from the world and mankind: God would simply BOREDLY STARE at what happens in the world, doing NOTHING MORE than staring at that well-known film which simply regularly UNFOLDS. God had really NOTHING to do because even the God's voice is ALREADY RECORDED on that film: his power will AUTOMATICALLY do what needed. This means that BEFORE that there has been a "first phase" where God did NOT know the WHOLE future. Indeed (1) KNOWING the ACTUAL future and (2) being FREE TO DECIDE are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, God can have either one, but not the two of them AT THE SAME TIME for logical reasons: if God "reserved the right" to change the future whenever He likes, this would mean He doesn't really know what will happen. God knows what will happen instead, the item is concluded. Since God is ONLY FREE TO DECIDE WHEN HE IS IN THE FIRST PHASE, this means that we have a relationship with Him when He is in that phase, thus we could even succeed when insisting with our prayers. But this means we have a relationship with God who is IN THE PAST, in a very distant past, the mankind was not born yet ("the world has not known you") ("no one ever saw God"). But from that past God is able to REACH US HERE NOW with his words and actions. Since there is NO ONE HERE to speak those words, you can say that the God's presence here corresponds to the presence of a SPIRIT: He is the SPIRIT OF GOD. From what set out above, the conclusion of the God's work in that remote past would coincide with His SEPARATION from us, because the future known to Him would simply automatically come true, simply UNFOLDING without any further God's intervention. Instead, at the conclusion of that work, God got rid of his power to become like a normal person, without any power: the Son of God. Thus, "Son" only means that He DERIVES from God, He is no "normal Son". Therefore Jesus INHERITS the reign of God, EVERYTHING "The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.". Jesus - who is a man now - is DIFFERENT from the Father since He has no power at all “ I from myself am not able to do a thing”. However, He is NOT DISTINCT from the Father either, since He DERIVES from Him "He who has seen me has seen the Father.". Thus, for Father + Son you cannot use the pronoun "He", you cannot use the pronoun "They" either. You can say that God is more than One and less than Two in number.

Oh no I missed it Curseeeee you algorithm overlords......

@Jeweliedear

2 жыл бұрын

😂

Existence of 'God'? When will they get that there is no 'One Personal God' - there are many personal Gods! Maybe trillions!

@bigboyshit1

2 жыл бұрын

I am god you idiot!

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

This channel would die without these social media employees populating the comment sections. KZread comment sections are a propaganda machine.

@bigboyshit1

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 I hope you’re not allowed to walk the streets.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter, I'm walking in that space inside of your head.

@bigboyshit1

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 wow you believe a cerebral cortex is key to that. I thought it was all spirits controlling us 🤣

The issue with philosophy is that it looks god(ilah/اله)in human perspective so it won't take anyone to the true religion (aldeenu/الدين) of The God as it is varied with time, place and culture. To come the truth of the true God one must look through The God perspective. That is The God way/methodology He teaches in His Books of Revelation (of course scholarly reserves to the authentic one).

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we call yours whatever the universe now, nature is the ultimate law and also finally something we can understand.

Theists talking about the non existence of God's? Not their strong point.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

It's good to see actual names coming out of the shadows and not using anonymity. I like your bravery.

@redmed10

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 Real names can be made up too. I don't really react to names but to what they say.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't allow a single person on the planet Earth to use social media without a publicly verifiable identification that shows the nation of habitation, and actual name.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

No more militant propagandists putting on their US citizen costumes and tricking voters.

Selling the God Fantasy is still very lucrative. Eternal Life is an easy pitch. Who would not want that?

@francesco5581

2 жыл бұрын

so you want it ("who would not want that") but are you shy to think about it because is not "cool" enough ?

@sneakyswiftfaze1548

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldnt. Being stuck here forever sounds like purgatory IMO.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

That's a horrible idea, eternal life in an eternal universe would be an eternal nightmare.

@francesco5581

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 no one is talking of an eternal life in a material universe, i think

@ApPersonaNonGrata

2 жыл бұрын

@@sneakyswiftfaze1548 But if you were always allowed to opt-out at any time, wouldn't you then welcome the power to remain physically and mentally fit, with no way to die except by choice?

When I rubbed, the fluid emerged When I pushed, a brown cylinder emerged But when I blinked, this KZread video emerged

Define god! is the only way we can only know the truth. God is a creation by humanity when time of need. God only be real when time is right, example, if you believe, god is there, if you are not believe in God, he is not there or not exist. did you all know, GOD is grand scale of what we believed, which is watching from a 3rd person perspective philosophy?

God can never be conceived. He can only be realized. After all, though we give them for granted, even the material elements are inconceivable. If they were conceivable, we could create them.

Never seen or recognized any gods or dieties, but we do have an active imagination that serves us, often selfishly.

God Almighty and other gods are primates, mortal, and closely enough related to us as Homo sapiens. Historically He gave us technology etcetera and in return we gave him sacrifice etcetera. His children have nothing to offer God today but perhaps His protection. "The King is dead long live the King". The God of Abraham reigns Supreme...still. I DO BELIEVE SOMETIMES. I am being sincere and I am almost sane, sober, and a devout atheist. Jesus may have been His Son and an immaculate conception could easily happen today. I don't intend to create a religion since it has existed as old as mankind. Aliens incounters are incounters with God's people and miracles are very high technology and selective breeding has been happening forever. E.T. phone home. Good day. I love you all and l love all of you.

Alan Watts is all you need baby

Why are Scientologists never featured in these discussions? Hubbard's ontological, cosmological, and epistemolgical intuitions have just as much validity as those of these people. Where are the Wiccans?

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

My thought exactly, why not hear from science fiction religion, would be awesome if Mr.Kuhn could make an interview with famous philosopher Tom Cruise :)

@publiusovidius7386

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 Exactly. Cruise can speak with as much authority about theological matters as these folks. He's also better looking and richer. Certainly Scientology has truly blessed him.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@publiusovidius7386 Perhaps they could invite him after the premiere of Top gun 2, he might think it's about that stupid movie and fall for it.

@itsmenotyou7526

2 жыл бұрын

Or what about the Mormon's ? Joseph Smith was called a prophet... Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum!

@thedudegrowsfood284

2 жыл бұрын

Dudeist here, feeling underrepresented as usual, man,

Knowledge without humility is hell***

Consistency isn't religions strong suite. Religious beliefs are all over the place. All were built on a foundation of previous religious beliefs. None were born whole. But, had too be fought over for generations.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

Where is all this religious fighting? Every time you get a chance you puke crap like that through your fingertips. For one time in your dishonest life support your claim or just be the social media employee liar that you are.

@ezbody

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 Were you, like, born yesterday?

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

The idea that the world is plagued with a bunch of religious end fighting is a quip with no basis in reality. Go away social media employee.

@thomasridley8675

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 So you don't even understand the beginnings of your own religion ? Somehow i am not surprised.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Nero burning Christians as if they were candles to light the Roman games? Fully aware.

I greedy and proud politician is a Fallen Angel***

I am the Goddess, i am the All in all***

I am the Infinitely Simple Natural Goddess***

I am the Goddess the Seat of Wisdom and the Gate of Heaven***

I am the unifying Goddess***

So much from the B team, would be great if we could hear debate in major league now, with representatives from the most successful nation on the planet. Only kidding, but richest cultures are Catholic, Evangelical, Chinese Taoists and also atheists. What makes those nations and cultures so successful, in a material sense, Perhaps there is a common denominator. They're all religious, but only on paper, the perception of ultimate divine being is almost completely gone from their daily practices. There are many religious objects, but they serve as museums or tourist attractions. Church communities are very strong, but their role is mostly humanitarian, dedicated to support of the weak, disabled, homeless and poor. It's not only about benevolence, the richest countries have excellent government social services. Additional church community support is often a replacement for recovery of those who committed ultimate sins. But not sins against good, they broke the law, religious moral guides are already integrated into a legal system, community helps with reintegration of the wicked back into civilized society. You won’t find this is any modern book of law or constitution, but this is how it really is. Atheist nation are no exception, most atheists will follow general Christian ethics, regardless if an individual is aware where those moral principles came from or not. Successful religions today are focused primarily on humanism, in the widest possible sense of this term. Ideology is much more present than in actual religious states, but it's hidden in sublime components, like in movies, music, industrial and fine arts, media, politics, finances, consumerism and economy, everywhere means exactly that. It's not only because all of them humanize God, this part originate from European Roman Empire legacy, utilizing science in civilian societies has played even more important part. People don't learn about facts of life from parents or in churches, they go to school and must work hard to get a diploma.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

Social media employee

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

Member of China's 50 Cent Army

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 I get it, you picked up some conspiracy theory somewhere and not idea is manifesting inside your mind in everything you see.

@williamesselman3102

2 жыл бұрын

It's what you are

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamesselman3102 Why would you say that, perhaps your faith is not strong enough, your thought are not clean, you're giving in to the dark side.

But after thousands and thousands of years, "Gods" still stay invisible and unreachable, other than in personal fantasy.

@patinho5589

2 жыл бұрын

Personal yes. Fantasy no.

@robertdevos7

2 жыл бұрын

@@patinho5589 Oh sorry, delusional.

@patinho5589

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertdevos7 why do you say I’m delusional?

@robertdevos7

2 жыл бұрын

@@patinho5589 delusional | dɪˈluːʒ(ə)n(ə)l | adjectivecharacterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder: hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia | he was diagnosed with a delusional disorder. • based on or having faulty judgement; mistaken: their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers | I think the guy is being a bit delusional here.

Science without humility is hellish***

God and "other" deities lmao...

Knowledge without wisdom and humility causes men to go to hell***

I am the Goddess, my religion is Love and Humility***

@o2xb

2 жыл бұрын

love for rapists, murderers and pedophiles too?

A philosophy is bullshit, gonnledygook just useless words if they cannot experience first hand God the Light

your twisting words and philosophy - 'gods' are not found in nature! they do not exist, oxymorons

There is no god

@o2xb

2 жыл бұрын

Proof?

@pittmannn1

2 жыл бұрын

@@o2xb exactally

A greedy Philosopher is false prophet***

My God will outrun your God, all the way to the bank.

The global philosophy of incarnations of primitive and childish superstitions. Imho.