Excuses or a confession? ***WHY WERE THE FLOOR JOISTS OUT OF LEVEL?***

In this video I try and explain a little as to the reason for the floor joists being out of level at one end of a newly installed floor.
This is a prime example of not taking enough time to digest what's going on with a job before rushing to get it completed.

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  • @chrisneville7310
    @chrisneville731010 ай бұрын

    Hi Del, we sort out issues and make it work. That's the beauty of the job. You sorted it just like a pro👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    You're spot on Chris👊Cheers bud🤩

  • @michaelplays2449
    @michaelplays244910 ай бұрын

    Magic Carpentry Del !!! At the top of youre profession..........You make problems go away , they are lucky to have such a gifted person on site !!!

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    As usual Michael, you're too kind🤗

  • @jruk1981
    @jruk198110 ай бұрын

    Fair play to you Del. Don’t sweat it, compromises have to be made when the original building is so wonky. As you said perhaps a small break down in communication concerning the height of the RSJ but it will be spot on once finished

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    IF I had been afforded more time when I was called in to help fix the timber into the steel beam, and consequently, fit the joists and floor, I would have picked this issue up and dealt with it then🤨I will learn from this, and just slow everyone down for a moment on the next one👍Cheers Del

  • @mauricecasey866
    @mauricecasey86610 ай бұрын

    Project manager is at fault for not communicating the issue before installation had started. I appreciate you don't want to upset anyone though.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    What's a 'project manager'😆Jokes aside, you are spot on🤔Cheers Del

  • @julietphillips1991
    @julietphillips199110 ай бұрын

    Such is life Del...we have all sorts of "characters" to contend with, even properties have character, some more than others! True to your character Del, you handled it all like a gentleman!

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for you kind comment, (as usual)🤩

  • @bricklayersworldwithandy6277
    @bricklayersworldwithandy627710 ай бұрын

    Ive came across this situation many times over the years and what was done is correct, just unfortunate the stairs were there. Some may say it's a bodge but it's modern technology these days, a good 2 part flexible self leveling floor compound will get over that. Either way you will get over it Del because you can 😉👍👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    I bet you've seen it all Andy🤔and there is probably nothing you couldn't get round or over👍When are going to have a meet up then mate🤞

  • @bricklayersworldwithandy6277

    @bricklayersworldwithandy6277

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter Anytime Del, ime not that far away 👍👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    @@bricklayersworldwithandy6277 How to get in touch

  • @bricklayersworldwithandy6277

    @bricklayersworldwithandy6277

    10 ай бұрын

    I put my email address up Del but youtube just delete it, I'm on FB👍

  • @Goodwithwood69
    @Goodwithwood699 ай бұрын

    A tidy site is a rare sight!

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    9 ай бұрын

    Tell me about it bud😬Cheers Del

  • @Pete.Ty1
    @Pete.Ty110 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍.Thank you

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure🤩

  • @adriandotsmall
    @adriandotsmall10 ай бұрын

    👍 - think you answered my question I asked in the comments in part 2.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    🫡👍

  • @davetaylor4741
    @davetaylor474110 ай бұрын

    The village I come from is in the doomsday book. There are a lot of very old houses. When I was doing my time it was often on houses hundreds of years old. Never seen one straight and level. I was taught from the start you work with them. Not against them. Such as hanging doors with four bevelled sides. And floors that go from A to B in the same plane. But not necessarily level. There is a limit to what can be done cost effectively. And in my opinion what should be done. Example. Heritage buildings in Australia often convict built. There are some nice ones. Went to work for a heritage building firm. Thought that is up my alley. Until I see their version of heritage restoration. The most extreme modern methods and materials to physically force the old buildings to comply. And leaving them with the scars to prove it. I left out of sympathy for the old structures. You get two types of people. The one that restores the old car and strip's everything back. Shiny new paint and trim. Then the other sort that clear coats the patina. And shows off the previous life of the vehicle. Houses are the same.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    As usual Dave, a great and thought provoking comment👍You're so right about working with old buildings and not against them👊Cheers Del

  • @Wattsjoinerybarn
    @Wattsjoinerybarn10 ай бұрын

    Superb keeping in with character work there😂 I thought you handled it very well in part 2! I hate those stomach drop moments

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi there🖐It's obviously annoying when things aren't going to plan, but certainly not the worst issue I've created/had to sort out😶Cheers Del

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi10 ай бұрын

    30 years ago we knocked through to a kitchen from a bedroom and changed it into a dining room. Kitchen had suspended concrete floor and dining room had normal timber floor over joists. Builders couldn't figure out why the kitchen floor was about 3cm higher than the new dining room. Joiner has just fitted new laminate floor and had to fit a small ramp. Don't know how he got away with it. House built 1929.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Your comment sounds very familiar with older properties, and all these things will eventually cause some sort of headache further down the line for someone🤨Thanks for watching😎Cheers

  • @amazing451
    @amazing45110 ай бұрын

    Not much you could have there Del, something's got to be out of level somewhere. The stairs look fine and I think your solution with the ply and maybe latex will easily overcome the issue. The brickies should be on speaking terms with you now. 😀😀👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Kevin🖐hope you are well bud🤞I don't suppose anyone needs to hauled over the coals here, but it could have been better😶Cheers Del

  • @amazing451

    @amazing451

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter Thanks Del keeping as well as possible these days mate. Look forward to seeing you soon. 👍

  • @johnwaby4321
    @johnwaby432110 ай бұрын

    Just one of those problems del you have to overcome 👍👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    I've got over much worse John😮Cheers Del

  • @paulcloona9331
    @paulcloona933110 ай бұрын

    Who ever decided the beam follow the old floor i think should have told other trades. Falling at the stairs was the worse place for it. I'm actually doing a job at the minute a porch being refitted with new windows 8ft long reveals. Im not joking nothings is plumb or level or equal measurements 😢. Im putting stud walls around inside and insulated plaster boards. Head scratching and challenging 😅. It seems the carpenter has to solve get over problems. I think if you are in a trade where finishing stuff is involved, you'd think more about details forward thinking. But in Ireland block layers or plasters dont give a 💩.a carpenter make the best builder. He can set out stuff cause he can see whats facing him in the second fix comes his way 😅🇮🇪. Good video Del shows nothing is perfect specially in old house, but how to think and get around a problem. 👌👏

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    So much of what you say is spot on Paul, and in many cases, it falls to the carpenters to pull a job back on track😶Great comment bud and thanks for watching😎Cheers

  • @stephendeakin2714
    @stephendeakin271410 ай бұрын

    The floor level is now what it is, short of lifting the joists up in the brickwork. The ceiling however can be corrected, just batten the joists.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Stephen🖐It had already been suggested to lift the joists, but they then would have been out of level along the end wall which would have shown on the door and window heads😬The other issue is that both floors are already tight for head room, to battening out either the floor or ceiling isn't really an option😵‍💫Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del

  • @SME_Ste
    @SME_Ste10 ай бұрын

    Be right Del. Belt sander on the stairs where it meets the landing floor, be reet once carpeted👍🏻

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Great suggestion👊and I think that is what might well be done as the isn't structural and is fully supported and fixed to the joist👍Cheers bud😎

  • @mattfitzgerald3745
    @mattfitzgerald374510 ай бұрын

    Hello. do you have a video about spacing out battens for slate? Will you always end up with a full slate on top. I’m worried that when I put my ridge cap on it might be sitting a few mill above my last slate which won’t look so good. Great video again.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Matt🖐The roof structure is as far as I go I'm afraid, but I have got a roof being slated in the next couple of weeks, do I can ask the roofer if he wouldn't mind explaining in on camera🤞Cheers Del

  • @SuperWayneyb
    @SuperWayneyb10 ай бұрын

    🤘😎🤘

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Wassup Wayne👊

  • @SuperWayneyb

    @SuperWayneyb

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter 👊😎

  • @SteveAndAlexBuild
    @SteveAndAlexBuild10 ай бұрын

    Can we have that in writing Del ? A carpenter am saying it’s not the brickies fault 🤔✍️🤣🤣🧱👍🏽

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    My default position always has been, remains and always will be, 'BLAME THE BRICKIES' (I cant find the 'sticking 2 fingers up emoji😆) Love you😍

  • @SteveAndAlexBuild

    @SteveAndAlexBuild

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter 🤣🤣🥰🥰🧱👍🏽

  • @paddy120
    @paddy12010 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    🤩😎🤩

  • @adrianaosirish6065
    @adrianaosirish606510 ай бұрын

    Plumb ,level ,square ...and if not ...good to the eye it'll be 👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    There is a lot to that statement Adrian🤔because ultimately, its your eye that will tell you if it doesn't look right👍Thanks for your comment😎

  • @disklamer
    @disklamer10 ай бұрын

    There is no right way. There is no wrong way. Whatever is the least problematic in the moment, there’s your solution. Unless you fix /everything…

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    A very pragmatic comment👌

  • @disklamer

    @disklamer

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter Cheers! I don’t think I’ve ever had a client ask to fix /everything/ once they saw the tag on that 😅

  • @leeedwards9994
    @leeedwards999410 ай бұрын

    is there a wall built on the floor upstairs ? ..... reason im asking is if that floor was clear of skirting walls etc it could have been forced level using the steel and props with the joist ends in the web .... looks like you have solved it nice job .....

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    That's a great solution, but the existing joists were used to support the original brickwork as the new beam was fitted, so would have been almost impossible 😬 Great comment and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

  • @leeedwards9994

    @leeedwards9994

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter understood .. thanks for the reply ... and nice job on the stairs .....

  • @denty32
    @denty3210 ай бұрын

    Nar mate, I’m still blaming the brickies 🤣🤣🤣

  • @disklamer

    @disklamer

    10 ай бұрын

    Brickies should have “ignored the next guy and do their part to spec” like a normal person and install everything level for the carpenter to fudge the slope, I mean if the carpenter insists on being that way 😎 or just leave it.

  • @jonylevitt90

    @jonylevitt90

    10 ай бұрын

    Nah blame sparks

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    We cant help it, its like an involuntary reaction😆

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    To be fair, that is the ONLY way to avoid any comeback as you'll never be criticized for putting something in right👍

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Great idea, as they weren't there to defend themselves😆

  • @daraghwarde156
    @daraghwarde15610 ай бұрын

    Hi del , do you need to do an apprenticeship in carpentry or can you just learn it from someone?

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Daragh🖐You can just learn this from without an apprenticeship, but only if you can find someone to teach you for long enough. The trouble comes, that without recognised training/apprenticeship you will not get accepted to work on many building sites😬Cheers Del

  • @Mee10792
    @Mee1079210 ай бұрын

    The brickies 'have' to build their walls level. The steel should have been put in the level and that old floor either levelled up or removed and reinstalled level.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    In an ideal world, yes, but there is client expectation as well financial considerations plus retaining the original properties character🤔Thanks for your comment👍Cheers Del

  • @mikedurham4448
    @mikedurham444810 ай бұрын

    as u say .. communication breakdown.. but u would think that anything like that which moves from standard (eg .. building LEVEL .. ) should be a reference point NOTED / highlighted on the plan as it is an EXCEPTION to standard assumptions... i know .. i kniow .. ass , me .. u .. lol.. the skill is in the remediation

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Shoulda, woulda, coulda I guess Mike🤔If it was my house it would, as you suggest, have been considered from the start😉Cheers Del

  • @hendrax5889
    @hendrax588910 ай бұрын

    could you not have attached the existing joists to the steel and then jacked the steel up in the pocket with some metal shims. either way, not the end of the world. bit of self level. bosh. Edit: you didn't fit the steel. nvm. Brickies are always going to follow the floor i guess.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    The existing floor was used to support the back wall while the beam was being fitted👍otherwise, your suggestion would have been the way to go👊Thanks for your comment and for watching😎Cheers Del

  • @richardstevenson2727
    @richardstevenson272710 ай бұрын

    🫡

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Cheers Richard🤩

  • @JACKATTACKED
    @JACKATTACKED10 ай бұрын

    If you had known, you may have done something different or nothing at all. But not knowing curbed your options.

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    I guess it was not knowing when I should have known😶Thanks for your comment 😎

  • @shaneelson
    @shaneelson10 ай бұрын

    It takes "balls of steel" to correct the public record so now you dont have to go climing transmission towers 😊

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Shane🖐I'm a pretty honest guy, and it's just not realistic to only ever show things that go perfectly on my channel🤔I don't make that many mistakes nowadays, but I still make them like everyone else🙃Cheers Del

  • @shaneelson

    @shaneelson

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thetallcarpenter Yep. As someone far wiser than me once said, 'anyone who says they've never made a mistake has never made anything.'

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    @@shaneelson Love that 👊

  • @alberttatlock5104
    @alberttatlock510410 ай бұрын

    Who cares plasterboard paint no body looks 😀

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    And ultimately Albert, you're spot on🙃Cheers Del

  • @johnmorrissey1675
    @johnmorrissey167510 ай бұрын

    👍 these problems always crop up with old builds it always falls to the carpenters to sort out, comprise 👌👏👏☘️🇮🇪🩼

  • @thetallcarpenter

    @thetallcarpenter

    10 ай бұрын

    Just part of our job eh John😉Cheers fella