"Sistering" a Cracked Broken Floor Joist
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In this video I "sister" up a cracked floor joist. All I wanted to accomplish with this was to remove the previous repair and add some strength to the existing joist. Though I do talk about leveling the floor, I do not level mine because I am only supporting this one spot. If I was to level the floor (as much as my 1946 built house would allow) I would have to sister every single joist and that is not necessary in my case. I hope you enjoy the video! Thanks for watching!
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I had to look into the term "sistering". There were a few but the one I liked best was, when one is having trouble carrying the load, the other comes along to help bear the burden = sistering. As always, I love these videos! 👍🏼
@Marcelo-56
2 жыл бұрын
What happens with the expression "twinning" is that it is an old Latin word that is used in the field language🤷♂️
I’m a professor and mesmerized on how smooth and professional you present a technical solution to a problem.
@neoasura
3 ай бұрын
I'm a plumber and I was also mesmerized.
I learnt it the hard way, attaching the support with a couple of screws so that it doesn’t fall and create damages. I was working with my son to replace a porch 4x4 post. Didn’t screw the temporary support sitting on a jack. When we made a small adjustment the support fell down and hit a garden shovel in the vicinity. The broken metal spade portion was thrown off about 10’ and the remaining broken handle swung and made a hash on my son’s shin. Fortunately he has forgiven his father for his stupidity
I would have C-Clamped them together rather than using screws to pull together. This assure a better bond for the adhesive. So First apply the adhesive, then C-clamp together, then finally add screws to finish. Hear in Texas we call that a Sandwiched Beam or Rafter if 2 sided. Sistering if 1 sided. Other wise.....Very Clear Detail and Running Explanation and Video.!! Scott Briggs, 82. Luxury Custom Home Builder 38 years.
I love these videos. You tackle real world problems that the average homeowner, myself included, face. You also are realistic and practical with solutions. Not everything needs to be a 12 month project. Sometimes you just need to get it done
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for noticing and pointing that out. I always have you guys in mind, otherwise I just wouldn’t make videos. I sincerely want to help you to be able to do these repairs yourself.
@chemcorps272
7 ай бұрын
This comment is highly under rated
Watched this video a couple years ago to help with my kitchen project 👍 FYI, Sisters hold each other up!
Where I’m from we call that ‘marrying two boards’. Also, I’ve used a couple of C-clamps to bring 2 boards together. I only know that because about 4 years ago I had to strengthen some floor joists in my 1972 mobile home under what had been the bathroom. The original floor joists were rotten on top in places and so there wasn’t much area to nail down the plywood. The solution, I felt, was to marry (in one instance sandwich) new boards to the old ones. I used large C-clamps to force the boards together while I ran screws into them.
I've sistered every second joist in my century home and boy it was a fun experience. I used bessy clamps to suck the 2 boards together which helped a lot. Great video bro!👍
@markkuhar1188
Жыл бұрын
Good clamps especially the padded kitchen cabinet clamps to help align as you secure the cabinet to the wall
You are definitely a Disaster Avoidance person, as opposed to disaster recovery. I will be doing something similar using 1/4” lag screws. Thanks for sharing this insightful video. Wishing you and your family a blessed Christmas season. Cheers
Most useful content I’ve seen so far pertaining to old houses and the surprises we can find. I’ve got all the similar issues with my house. I enjoy watching your videos.
Enjoy watching your videos and knowing people can help educating others. You are a man with character.
Came back here to say - THANK YOU. You saved me a bunch of missteps. And you're the only one I saw that advised to screw the jack to the old joist, that trick saved my TV several times for sure. I was repairing a 16' span and the jack kept getting lifted and became useless, so I quit using it and used a 2lb sledge to whack the joist into place. Floor is rock solid now! Thanks a ton, man.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
12 күн бұрын
Happy to hear you got it done! And happy I could help out! 👍
Love how down to earth you are and how well you explain things.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Larry!!
@noble5wins
2 жыл бұрын
good man mister fixer
Love how you explain I am learning more as I watch as a home owner when I hire a handyman for small jobs they are surprised as how well I explained what I wanted to be done thanks for sharing 💙
The only thing I would do differently is nail it as well. Screws have alot of clamping force, but can shear vs nails which can pull out, but have better shear resistance.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I will probably add a bunch of nails. I wasn’t satisfied with what I had there after an hour or so and I have a bunch of spikes so probably gonna go nuts with the nail gun. 😁😁👍
@fev3rd
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the screw or situation. We don't know what is above or the load but all he did was make a double. Some screws are structural, but he did say construction screws. I'm thinking home Depot there cheap construction screws looks like the expensive grx sold at Lowes. Spax at home Depot are said to be structural screws
@Loonypapa
2 жыл бұрын
Depending on what brand and rating of structural screw you chose, screws will actually handle quite a bit of shear if you array them properly.
@dougmiyamoto3109
Жыл бұрын
You can use GRK screws that have the shear strength of a nail, with the clamp of a screw. Expensive though. And I always clamp the boards together as well before fastening.
@ajmedeiros77
Жыл бұрын
Timber locks or head locks are way way stronger than any nail. They make the red ones specifically to attach lvl’s together, but people are in a hurry and want to cut corners and use Nails
Love the dog at 3:53. I work on a lot of old houses and all the little things I see are really cool. There is a lot of history in them.
Good job! Thanks for taking the time to share,so important and helpful.
Always interesting projects .... you do a great job with the vids Mr Fixer! I'm doing this on a 1911 building that has longer spans and split joists ... hope your week is perfect!
Try using end cutting nippers and grabbing one leg at a time to pull the wire staple out without having to put pressure in any part of the wire.
Love the wisdom I glean from you! Thanks!
Thank you! I have a cracked/broken joists in my basement; your video has helped me understand what I might encounter.
Love the care you are putting into this little house. You must be so attached to it now! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼❤️🙏
Awesome video with a clear explanation. The video was very clear. Thank you.
I had to do the same in my house (built in 1929) the only thing I did different was C-clamped it before adding screws to ensure adhesive contact along the length. It looks like it will be fine!
@mikemiller9891
Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing this tomorrow on a 1910 home... but I WILL be raising that joist which has sagged in the process...
Awesome video! clean understandable instruction with options thru experience. Thanks.
I did this exact same thing pretty much except in my crawl space. Instead of using screws to bring the boards closer together I used half inch wide 8 inch bolts with washers on each side and impacted them together
Definitely learned something. My kid and I are restoring an old house and found floor joists for the second floor bad I think we’ll use this method. Looks better than patching in a piece
Great video. Lots of small details and tips that clearly came from real experience. This is going to help with a repair I need to make.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Good luck with the project! Let me know how it goes!
Very good, cool calm approach,- well presented video, thank you.
Thanks for explaining this so clearly! I have this problem in my basement - one of the rafters is splintered and I need to fix it. Thanks!
Yup I have two in my basement, I am please two see my plan for repairing them is correct. Thank you again, I also wanted to let you know that instead of repairing the basement access door, I built a enclosed porch over the steps and I love it. I have to install a door at the foundation and a storm door at the entrance and it will be finished.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Oh that is great! I bet it feels good to be getting that project out of the way! Thank you for sharing!
Great job. Thank you.
That construction adhesive helps a lot good job bud..God Bless
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Ol Mike Holmes always says "Glue It And Screw It!" lol As a railroader, when replacing wood cross ties, I called the ties on either side of the replaced tie "it's sisters". So you put in a new tie to "Help It's Sisters".
Awesome explanation . I need to sister about 6 joist due to leaning out foundation
Great work , Matt. 👍
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jennifer!
Basement shop is looking good!
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gregory!
Good job. Thanks for the info.
Hi The Fixer, Happy Holidays To You And Family.🌲🧑🎄💚
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Phyllis! Same to you and yours! 😀🎅
@Von135
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair Thank you!💙
Well done.
I definitely enjoyed this video. Still always learning things. And I gave it a thumbs up, but then again, I always do. 😊
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
😁😁 thanks so much, Sharon!
Great video ,thanks !!
Great! So simple ...
NICE JOB!!
My nickel on the ground, Sister is a shipwright term when pairing up the frames of wooden boats to strength them as each frame is different form the next they have to be made individually to mate together. By the way i was taught wiring cleats have to be a hammer length apart with the nail underneath to support the wire.🔨⚒🛠
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Had the same issue in my 1975 house... right in the middle of the dinning room floor. One 2x10" joist had a huge knot that weakened and cracked all the way through, top to bottom. The builder never should have used it in the first place. I added a 3/4" plywood "sister" on *both* sides after carefully jacking it back up in place about 3/4"... construction glued and screwed, 48x10". Did the trick and solid as new.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Plywood on both sides with glue almost turns the joist into an engineered piece of lumber! Does a great job! Thanks for sharing!!
@mikemiller9891
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair How do you come up with a piece of 3/4" OSB that's as long as a joist? Or can multiple pieces be butted together?
Looks great!
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Deanna!!
That's great work thanks a lot. It is awesome 👍
Those floor joists look familiar and I have a few above our kitchen that need repair too due to bath remodel plumbing. I did one of the over notched joists a foot of two from the corner of the house under the second story floor. It was not fun. The other is under the tub and the joist is already sistered, and both are notched so much the floor sags while in the shower and the plumbing leaks almost even time, unless we stand back far enough from the tub drain to keep the floor from bowing. If it were the only problem I would have tackled it long ago like some of the other plumbing I've adjusted to reduce other code issues. but I'm still left with 3 that I know I need to address. It's nice to see a youtube about a house that was built with similar materials as mine and I look forward to searching your channel for more ideas on how to address my future attempts to repair our houses bath remodel issues. :) And possibly some other ideas besides.
Thank you sir
I use threaded rod with large thick washers either side at alternating heights. Find it quite pleasing to look at for some reason.
@KleinHeister
Жыл бұрын
Can you explain that more?
Awesome video! This helped me a lot. Thank you.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the video.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, James!
Having had to do a similar job I used G clamps as well as glue,in this case I would put some gap filling glue to the top and nailed and pilot drilled for screws to avoid overstressing.Maybe treated the old joists for termites as well.👍
I bolt the joists together
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Good technique! Thanks!
I really wish that contractors would stop drilling holes in floor joists unless absolutely necessary. Love that wires here are all stapled rather than through holes.
Really good video! Enjoyed that
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thank you!
I appreciate you sir
It is a relationship thing. Much like you have motherboards and daughter boards, this describes the main use item and the secondary item such as video cards, PCI cards, etc, you also have sister items, they are the same but different. In this case, they are the same board, doing the same job, side by side, but not the same item. So they are sisters. In order to be a sister, there must be at least 2 of them.
Close by as in touching, contiguous. = sistering. Leaner that back in early mid 80s when I started framing n construction
Merry Christmas Mr Fixer
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you, Shannon!!
@shannonwray4033
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Excellent video my friend
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching, as always!!
Love it, full Sister Bearing to Bearing. Lol.
I really enjoy your videos. I don't know why but I hope you finish the stairs to the basement from bulkhead video. You did such a good job on everything else :-) I guess I just want to see the finished product.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have said this actually. No worries, It will happen! Working my way over to it as I reorganize the basement. Stay tuned!
It’s amazing how much extra time has to be spent on building because we can’t get straight lumber. I know green wood chances as it dries but I’ve almost had to fight local hardware store managers because I was sorting through lumber that I was using to pour concrete sidewalks with. I needed straight boards.
That's great
I learned something!
thanks for your video help me to reinforce my house,,,'
I need to level my house and the contractor that i may hire suggesting i can do it myself to save money instead of having him and his guys doing it. this video gave a great visual of how to do it though the only difference is i have a crawl space and not a basement
Nice. I like to use lag screws, but everyone is different on that.
Lol 1 minute in, liked and subscribed. Great video!
Here in South Florida, it’s all slab on grade. We don’t have such issue, but I enjoy watching you work. Good job.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Lucky! Only thing I get nervous about with slabs is plumbing repairs… I have heard stories. Thanks for your continued support of my channel! 👍
@1styoudummy
2 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say that. I just had 16’ of 65 year old cast iron sanitary line replace with PVC. They hydroblast a 3’ x 3’ tunnel under my house, fill shot blasted back in. Expensive, $330 per foot. No way around it, I just had to bite the bullet and do it. About $8k with permitting and engineer’s report.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
@@1styoudummy wow. Yeah that is pricey! I guess you take the bad with the good. 65 years is not bad in pipe years. At least it is done, one less thing to worry about!
@maxmanx1294
Жыл бұрын
Its not all that way. I've done a few renos that involved crawlspace work to beef up the load capacity for granite & tile. Fun! /s
yep i agree with TheNixonotification ...screws do NOT have the shearing strength that nails do. In fact screws shear off really easy. Adding nails will increase the strength of that sistered beam immensely.
@fev3rd
2 жыл бұрын
Shear still wouldn't matter it's a double. New beam is carrying half the load from above.
Sittin' on the beam, doo do do do doo!
Dude, some people say that when spiders live in à house it's à good house.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Then apparently I have a great house! Haha
@Mrdealornodeal618
2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this saying before.
Yeah I did learn something new thanks man.
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear! And I love the name by the way! Master Blaster is a decent NES game. 😁👍👍
@egg110905
2 жыл бұрын
Let me see what you got in your garage?!
Only problem I ever had was floor squeak between the joists and subfloor, adhesive is needed there also. Sister or marry can be used interchangeably.
If you really want to add additional strength I would suggest adding a piece of 1/2" OSB sandwiched between the two joists and alternate ledge locker screws installed from opposite sides. The OSB is incredibly strong in the vertical orientation and is found in most new construction for that reason. I did this in my home when replacing a shower stall with a large 2 person jetted tub in a bathroom remodeling project.
@maxmanx1294
Жыл бұрын
That's the way I do it as well, but I typically sandwich with ply.
Contracter installing 4×6 support by 6×6 for water tanks Definitely shut power off when moving boards
Nice Job Bro
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for checking it out!
a couple of c clamps and lag bolts might of made that a bit easier. job well done!!!!
Great video! Sisters stick together lol
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Haha Thanks a lot!
Professionals generally consider nailing two boards together a double girder, while adding an identical board to an existing joist, a sister. I suppose the boards have to be dimensionally identical for it to be “sistering”.
C- Clamp would have pulled them tight before screwing together, but job well done sir
sistering means to come alongside and help carry the load... check out "If my sister's in trouble" by Lady Soul (on the Sister Act soundtrack)
Any recommendations on what to use for shims on the bearing ends? I have a similar repair I am doing, but the original floor joist is 7 3/4” (mine vary from 7-8” throughout the house) so there is enough room after slipping in the 2x8 that you can move it up/down easily.
if you pre-drilled the holes in the new sister board it might have pulled in to the old board better?
Man this guy keeps making videos on what not to do. The crown will level out over time that's the whole reason you put the crown up. Putting the crown down will eventually cause sagging in the floor
It’s actually called laminating boards. Makes it stronger together.
I like what you did, I used bolt to sister my joist. I also use outdoor paint on the joist because why not help prevent the damage from happening again.
Well there is a lot of meaning to sistering. But when it comes to building it the mirror image of what's there.
My attic floor has a peak right in the middle down the center following the main beam. To level that out would I sister all of the joists connected to this beam that hold that floor up?
I am so inspired! You have access at both ends for the new sistered joist to sit on. Would your be comfortable if you only had access on one end? Also what’s the difference between the screws you used here vs the Timberlok you used in a different video?
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Hey! If I only had access to one end it would depend on the situation. In this case, for example, if the end I had access to was on the side that the joist was broken then I would be ok with just attaching it to the old joist. If it was the opposite I would be less comfortable. As far as the screws, these ones are smaller and do not have as much shear strength as the timberloks. I would have used timberloks on this but didn't have them on hand. That is ok though because there was not much weight on this joist. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!!
It’s a boat building term for doing the same thing on a boat member
Pull the two boards together with a big "C" clamp as you go across. Screws are very hard (brittle) so the will shear. Nails aren't hardened, so they will not. I would have checked the straightness of the original vertically with a taught string. Looks like your floor has a sag in the middle. Best way would have been through bolting with big fender washers with 3/8 bolts.
@mikemiller9891
Жыл бұрын
Is there a video that you know of that shows this?
i got a guy comming to fix 15 joist the seal plate and ledger beam and im here trying to learn so i can help properly .... you should be proud your the first chanel i thought of for my schooling ... i now feel like a pro thank you sir for quality content il be sure to toss out the sistering term lmao... dont worry im only there for the grunt work i got a three foot crawl space and those timbers wont drag them selves under lol hes a bit long in the tooth
@TheFixerHomeRepair
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That means a lot. Thank you. Yeah, aren’t crawl spaces fun!? Haha I do wish you the best of luck. Let me know how it goes! Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words!
@theproudamerican4719
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair you do good work man i watch all your how to videos iv have learned a lot im the guy who turns to youtube . i sure will man and no sir my crawl space sucks i have an adition so they just busted a small whole in the block that only a child could fit thrue haha the old part of the house just has a small trench around the stem wall so things will be tight but luckily uncle sam tought me to belly crawl haha so not looking forward to it .. have a good night stay safe my friend
@theproudamerican4719
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair well good sir .. it went well we sisterd 15 joist replaced the seal plate and ledger turns out i had some wall and floor board rott aswell and who ever put the siding on didnt put up tar paper my gutters suck and the shingles dont over lay enough so iv had water wicking that caused this mess to begin with luckily i need new shingles so that will be adressed they are about 15 years old lol aaannd i had to rip up half my back deck that was freshley painted to replace the ledger and three joist but it only cost me 2000 due to him being family and a real good man plus i did all the back work but he offerd me a job and i took it ... went from min wage to balling hahaha thanks again for the great content you are trully changing lives JESUS BLESS YOU
Daaang you good
@1:09 Mayyyybe sistering comes from the ZZ Top song Tube Snake Boogie: "I got a gal that lives on the hill. She won't do it but her sister will." Think about it. A busted joist won't safely carry a load...."but her sister will."🙊
There's a joist that has some rot on the bottom of it. I fear that in the future, if we were to sell the house an inspector would want this repaired. Do you think this method of repairing would pass inspection? Thanks
I have discoloration like the ends of these floor joists do. Do you know if it is anything to be concerned about? I was thinking I should just sister every single one of my floor joists.