The fact you just called Segal a martial arts master just made me unsubscribe!

@VikingSamurai

8 ай бұрын

If you experienced what his most senior student Sensei Elliot Freeman can do like I did, you'd reconsider. Elliot will even be the first to say Seagal is way above his level.

@grimmmful

8 ай бұрын

@@VikingSamurai and that makes you a segal fan period haven't seen you like one comment about jean unless it was a sub saying they like both

@VikingSamurai

8 ай бұрын

​@@grimmmfulI'm a big fan of both men

@jonathanmora8208

8 ай бұрын

Seagal is a martial arts master (AIKIDO). He isnt a fighter though

@jonmacist

8 ай бұрын

@@jonathanmora8208 but he can fight a lot of martial artists dont fight for sport.

If this is for real than I’m going for team Van Damme 💯 percent

@webmasterd

8 ай бұрын

of course. how many footnotes do you need? 😄

@Venomn1

8 ай бұрын

Same

@JuTtLlA

7 ай бұрын

Don't know but I'm pretty sure you will find out for us...lol

@jasonking1284

4 ай бұрын

Once Seagull gets a hold of Van Damme's hand, it's game over....

@gokuvegeta7770

4 ай бұрын

@@jasonking1284 yeah he likes holding hands

They should've done this 30 years ago 😂

Those cops teasing Seagal 😂😂😂

20 Million! Ill step in the ring with Tyson! I wont win but a million will definitely go to medical bills.🤣🤣

@nostradamus522

8 ай бұрын

Think the same👍🏻

@richiet6381

8 ай бұрын

More like a very very extravagant funeral for you 😂🤣😂🤣😜 Rest in FAFO🤪😂🤣

@Blindsyde5762

4 ай бұрын

Same

@americanosbadassius9292

4 ай бұрын

The ones you had before the fight or the one you'll have after?

Chuck Norris and Sly both backed up the story, they had no reason to lie. Personally I think VanDamm wins young or old. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but JVCD has the speed and conditioning advantage and probably strength too. It would be a fun fight to watch.

@joeridestrijcker445

5 ай бұрын

'conditioning'? Ever seen behind the scenes of JCVD action movies? He shows up on set, tosses his cigarette away... does 2 kicks and backs off to sit down and have another cigarette; he even jokingly tells on tape that his cig smoking is really bad and it's impacting his stamina a lot (I need to look for that footage but it's certainly out there) ; flexibility and muscle toning wise he's still awesome! But when it comes to hand/arm speed and technique, I wouldn't mock SS at all.... I just don't think it would be a fun fight at all, styles are TOO different and today they are just too old, with all due respect

@alexwhite8449

4 ай бұрын

@@joeridestrijcker445 Yeah, Seagal's slap-fighting technique is so special, Van Damme would be too weak from laughter. It wouldn't be fair : )

Sucks to see all these guys old and tired now a days. I prefer to remember them in their 80s primes.

@JanKenTribeWorldWide

4 ай бұрын

Shhiitt who doesn't? I hate that they're old, a tad bit angry, and doing too much...

I loved BOTH of these guys growing up. ✊👊

I'm glad to see so many comments by people who are fans of both Van Damme and Seagal. It's a bit disappointing that this alleged fight never happened because that would have been the biggest historical event of the entire action phenomenon! Ultimately, I know who the winner of the fight would've been: the fans!

@crotchy7667

8 ай бұрын

Oh I don't know about that lol It could certainly be disappointing one way or another. One of them could get knocked out by the first punch thrown for example. If this actually happened it would not really tell us much about how their physical talent matches against each other.

@user-zo7mr3op8i

8 ай бұрын

How about Bear Grylls vs Ray Mears or Jack Reacher Cruise vs the new Reacher guy (don't think that would go the distance). Popeye would beat The Hulk unless the Hulk had a tin of spinach.

@DemiGod..

4 ай бұрын

They would have had a good laugh as segal is a fraud

This fight would look "terrible" regardless of how it turned out. We're talking about the 63-year-old JCVD vs. the 71-year-old Steven Seagal. Forget about an ambulance. There would need to be a "hearse" parked outside the arena.

@memorialgardens1664

8 ай бұрын

😂🤝 get it 🧠💪💚🙋‍♂️

I like both of them. Each has their own style. To say Segal isn’t a martial artist is completely insane. The guy has legit skills and so does Van Damme.

@wallcity318

8 ай бұрын

Have u see steven's demos

@JessicaDuBois

7 ай бұрын

​@@wallcity318😆 😂 It's fake like his spray on hair color.

@JessicaDuBois

7 ай бұрын

He knows the most unused martial art so i guess😂

@wallcity318

7 ай бұрын

@@JessicaDuBois no frick'n way! I refuse to believe that, im guessing you've never seen them either

@MrWeareone777

7 ай бұрын

@@JessicaDuBois It’s real black boot polish lol 😂

Van Damme has always been in better physical condition and would have beaten Steven at any point.

@martinkuliza

7 ай бұрын

Deliberating who would have won Van Damme vs Segal is like Deliberating Axl Rose vs Vince Neil THE ANSWER IS FUCKING OBVIOUS Van Damme and Axl Rose would have won the fight doesn't even need to happen for you to know that

@Sir_Richard_Stewart

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@eddymontero6658

7 ай бұрын

True. Jean Claude Van Damme likes to hit the gym. Steven whose last name is actually pronounced Sea-Gull instead Seagal just likes to hit the snack 🥨🍔 bar instead.

@martinkuliza

7 ай бұрын

@@eddymontero6658 the difference is when Jean Claude hits the gym He actually hits the gym Like... Before he walks in the door, he punches the bricks

@VAHOSS

7 ай бұрын

Except for the years he had a crack pipe between his lips

Since i was young i have been a big fan of JCVD!!....and also of Steven Seagal !! Everybody wants to be THAT star and Martial Arts star, of course. But i dont care who would have won, really, they are both great Martial Artists and movie stars, they have both made some of the best Martial Arts movies of all times! I respect them both...and i wish them all the best in life !! I just want to thank them for everything that they have done !!! Great role models, Martial Artists, actors and my childhood heroes ! I bow to them !

@jojotakuma4622

8 ай бұрын

Sooo true 🙏🙏🙏

To be honest, in 80's a fight between Jean Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal would have been a real event not to be missed. Seeing them together or fighting each other in a film, at the time, would have been a hit at the box office. Nowadays, being a huge fan of both, I really think we should leave them alone and move on.

@davefletch3063

7 ай бұрын

Or get the.m to do a film together now before they are gone

We all love how Segal runs 🏃‍♂️ ❤️

@Filthy_Larry

8 ай бұрын

Notice how his fat add never breaks a sweat? Only time you ever saw human Seagal was Above the Law. There, he sweats, he breaths, he bleeds. Remember that movie. You’ll never see a human seagal again.

@americanosbadassius9292

8 ай бұрын

​@@Filthy_Larry He's was sweating in Hard To Kill. You are probably watching his other movies with your eyes closed.

@willy9204

8 ай бұрын

Took plenty of damage in exit wounds as well

@mage1086

8 ай бұрын

Aikido was created by a woman.

@americanosbadassius9292

8 ай бұрын

@@mage1086 No it wasn't dumazz, that's Wing Chun, duh!

To be honest, Van Damme did have many fights in Europe. Champion or not, that is disputed, but his strength and speed is far superior in comparison. So far, Aikido never proved itself in combat sports, so I take Shotokan Karate any day, any time. Plus, Van Damme practiced boxing with powerful Qissi brothers till Van Damme carried away in fame. Good job Viking.

@chadthunderkawk1650

8 ай бұрын

I agree with all of this. Van Damme has faced opposition and it is recorded. Seagal has only been seen fighting compliant students.

@rnkmode1876

8 ай бұрын

I've never seen any Real time footage of Van Damme being crazy fast. Dude has excellent flexibility and kicking technique but fast, I never seen the speed you're referring to. I have seen Seagal in Real time speed, for a Big guy, he has very fast hands. Both different Martial Artists.

@chadthunderkawk1650

8 ай бұрын

He's fast enough for combat speed. What I haven't seen is Aikido work in combat. When I was in the service Aikido guys were getting bodied even by unskilled brawlers during smokers. Boxers, Kick boxers, Wrestlers, BJJ, even karatekas had victories. @@rnkmode1876

@Greatsport99

8 ай бұрын

@@rnkmode1876 They used slow motion in his movies, other than that, I have seen great skills he showed with his kicks.

@indyphillipconner6252

8 ай бұрын

Aikido isn't meant for sport it's a self-defense art.

Hey buddy, great video! Thanks for putting it out there. Let's try to talk soon. Keep doing what you do cuz it's been paying off and it's awesome and I'm glad I get a chance to see it

I love both guys! They gave us a lot of great movies.

Van damme has his own whiskey brand now? Sure, I'll drink it if it helps me dance like he did in kickboxer. Remember when Seagal came out with his own drink? It was some type of energy drink infused with goji berries and qi.

@jamesvaughn4126

8 ай бұрын

I didn't know that

I'm loving these comebacks of my idols when I was younger. This is great! These old timers are toughest nails, I want to see who still has it and who doesn't

Dude I WOULD LOVE to see Steven Segal vs Jean-Claude Van Damme

@VikingSamurai

8 ай бұрын

Epic!

@Christ_Of_The_Crusaders

8 ай бұрын

@@VikingSamurai it would be Epic, I'd pay to see the fight even.

@Robd07

8 ай бұрын

These so called imaginary fights Never happen

@SJ-ty5rw

8 ай бұрын

Same ! but Seagal will never fight him . He didn't want to fight him in the 90's , at Stallone's . He wouldn't accept a challenge from Bob Wall . And he turned down an offer from George Foreman in an event fight . For a guy that like's to put so many guys down and acts like their nothing . He sure doesn't want an y part of them

@peterjohnson9291

4 ай бұрын

@@SJ-ty5rwSeagal is a coward. A loudmouth that won't back up his threats.

I can see an action comedy with both Van Damme and Segal in a type of Tango and Cash movie👍 You can see them argue with each other and eventually team up and beat everyone up👊

@davefletch3063

7 ай бұрын

That would be sweet

Today is the final day of Vantober 2023! I’ve had a blast! I’d still love to see the Van Damme/Seagal movie we never got🙏🏼 Two great martial artists!

Jean made martial arts beautiful!…. Segal made martial arts comedy gold!…. I like both of their movies in the 80’s…. For different reasons!…. Both artist!…. One an awesome martial artist!…. The other an awesome comedian!…. ❤️

@korranis1

8 ай бұрын

U obviously don’t train martial arts

@aikidoboynj

8 ай бұрын

The fight scenes in Seagal's early movies were brutal, efficient and ground breaking. The joint locks, elbow and knee strikes etc. He made the movie fights feel dangerous and not like a Hollywood show, where the people can get hit so many times and seemingly never stop fighting.

@cheetahcar7855

8 ай бұрын

because he was actually striking his stuntmen on purpose, litterlly trying to inflict pain...thats messed up@@aikidoboynj

Doesn't matter how you feel about JCVD movies or his personality, but he is a genuine martial artist, who actually took part in competitions. He also trained under Dominique Valera, the champion who started kick boxing. Seagal is nothing but a showcase, a dog and pony show, he wouldn't last 5 minutes facing Van Damme.

@neo7759

7 ай бұрын

That's actually not true, Segal is a ninjitsu master and an actual ninja. He is also behind the scenes at UFC and personally responsible for most of their success and the fighters moves. He is at a master level in every single discipline of combat and has been studying the secrets of Kung fu for the last few decades getting ready for the next challenge.

@heythere6983

7 ай бұрын

King fu has no secrets and I don’t think Iv ever seen a real “ ninja” beat anyone in a fight . Steven seems like one of those dudes who lived in the religious mystique side of martial arts relying on pretending he is above stepping up to the plate in order to avoid being embarrassed

@neo7759

7 ай бұрын

@@heythere6983 I was being sarcastic 😉

@AzazelReborn81

7 ай бұрын

You serious? 😮

JCVD been on public ready and willing to fight Steven Seagal since Arsenio Hall show. Seagal wanted no part of it

@AztecUnshaven

8 ай бұрын

Van Damme never follows through. He backed out of his own challenge with an old retired Thai boxer. Seagal is a huge man, and many top level pro MMA fighters have gotten on the mats with him and stated he's very fast and powerful, the real deal. Seagal simply has a way higher level of training with world class masters, including Dan Inosanto, Ron Balicki, Fumio Demura, Tetsuhiro Hokama, etc. Seagal would end it quickly.

@isaelmahdi6593

8 ай бұрын

@@AztecUnshaven hhhhhhhh. Well in his prime at Stalone house he wasn’t trying to fight JCVD

@gordonclark4049

8 ай бұрын

Long time ago they was young and full of beans

@AztecUnshaven

8 ай бұрын

@@isaelmahdi6593 I'm a fan of Van Damme too, but his "challenge" back then was him drunk and coked out embarrassing himself. I've seen Seagal ragdoll 260 pound pro MMA fighters. Van Damme would have gotten dropped on the ground hard.

@isaelmahdi6593

8 ай бұрын

@@AztecUnshaven JCVD kick so quick he almost knocked out Cody on accident . JCVD would kick the teeth out of Seagal before aikido could move

Seagal: can i laugh in your face 😂

Can Segal even lift his leg up now without rolling backwards lol

@martinkuliza

7 ай бұрын

Steven Segal Come and cut my heart.......COME AND CUT MY HEART OUT !!!! HOW ABOUT IF I SHOW YOU WHAT I'TS LIKE TO LIFT UP MY LEG Come Get some For trying to lift up his leg We gonna call him............KORAJIO (Because... it means Courage) LOL

@jasonking1284

4 ай бұрын

Once he gets a hold of Van Damme's wrists, it's all over for Van Damme..

@blakecrosby5123

4 ай бұрын

He can't lift his leg with out craping his pants

This fight should have happened twenty years ago. But, I'd still watch them fight today.

I think you nailed the central point of this story with the part of Demolition Man, and that neither wanted to lose to the other. Also, a fight now would really prove nothing. The altercation at Stallone's had enough witnesses to probably get the story more or less straight, that VD issued a challenge and Seagal wanted to part of it in public, but has no problem talking crap in a car. As far as egos, I think we all know who owns the larger example. VD's films have shown him being mentored, having the hell beat out of him, etc. Seagal's as far as I know, he has always at the top of the game already. From the many movies I have seen, I can only recall one loss at the hands of Mike Tyson I think. It also could have been added later with a double though without his knowledge or approval as it was kinda out there anyway. Either way, it's hard to tell who would have come out on top in their prime. VD doesn't want to grapple and Seagal doesn't want a striking match. Any real rules would have given one or the other an advantage, so it's either go at it with everything or don't bother. Maybe someone with give us a great AI match of them in their hayday. Cheers.

@davefletch3063

7 ай бұрын

He got killed in Executive decision

It is erroneous to disregard the abilities of a seasoned, senior practitioner who has been training continuously for 35+ years.

@jackhammer5683

8 ай бұрын

Trained his belly?

@kaintuffin-qb5wu

8 ай бұрын

F yeah!

@BaxterGT3

8 ай бұрын

Lmao You're trolling bro

@TheRealTomahawk

8 ай бұрын

Bruce Lee did that all the time… The video with the tai chi Master versus the MMA fighter proves that it doesn’t matter if you do 35+ years of continuous training, because it’s all BS

@garethsmith8672

8 ай бұрын

@@TheRealTomahawk Interesting comment TRT. You bring up 4 different topics in one sentence. Can you please expand on what you mean regarding Bruce Lee, Xu Xiaodong and Tai Chi 'master', 35+ years of training doesn't matter, and BS. Thanks.

Thanks for posting this, Great information. You have a great channel my friend. All the best to you.

@VikingSamurai

8 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly

I grew up as a kid in the 80s, ive got respect for Segal and brother JCVD.

@EdmundSampson-pd7vi

7 ай бұрын

JCVD on VCR was mint.

Jcvd would win but at this late time who cares, the result would be the same but the encounter would be pathetic

@Shooby777

4 ай бұрын

Here Here

van Damme 63, Seagal 71. Okay... 2 guys huffing and wheezing around the dojo.

@mridlon1634

5 ай бұрын

We can make it a four-way, and throw in Zuckerberg & Musk

Steven seagal Thoughts on jai white can I laugh in your face Thoughts on van dammd can I laugh in your face Thoughts on steven seagal can I laugh in your face Wait hang on wait that's me Oops

Awesome video thanks

Respect to both...they both raised us..gave us a screen mentor/hero.. wouldve l9ved a movie with them before... and also a real fight. But I get why it never happened... creditablity ...a loss would destroy ur film career. It's also some how better to have these fights in discussions.... Bruce or Jackie or jet or yen or jcvd or norris how bout steven and syl, and arnie scott , jason statham.. etc.. ,

I was working on a script for Seagal a couple of years back which sadly never went ahead. The concept was great. The Putin ties (which actually had a direct impact on the script) have effectively blacklisted him. Though what I will say, despite what people might suggest, Seagal does recognise his 00/10's films have been poor but he still ambitions to make good movies. He cares about the quality and it probably frustrates him as much as the fans how most have turned out.

There both great its a massive loss for us we never saw them go head to head in a movie it would have been great . Thanks for the video VS you rock

When it came down to it. Van Damme was the real man and Seagal was a chicken. Seagal is all talk but no walk and extremely arrogant about it. Everything about Van Damme is better. He looks better. His physique is better. His fighting style is better. His movies are better. Even his name sounds better.

Seagal in an interview that a true martial artist wouldn’t belittle another martial artist yet it seems he either forgot he said this or he’s a lier . Anyway loved the video Viking 👍

Seagal: Fighting van Damme would be like squashing an ant. I love the man´s words😁.

Just to clear up a couple of things for people dunking on Seagal in the comments. Aikido is a legitimate martial art, and Steven Seagal was no push-over in his prime. I think Van Damme would win this fight TODAY, but back in the 80's or 90's? I'm not so sure.

I met Seagal about 10 years ago. His knuckles were like hide. Very calloused. You could tell he was active in punching bare handed. I wouldn't mess with him.

@JayP7178

4 ай бұрын

Lol

@JoseFuentes-fn3dl

4 ай бұрын

@JaredVii why does everyone not take him seriously? Lol. He isn't an mma fighter, nor could he be one since he is too old. But he could seriously hurt your average person. I have attended a couple of his school classes in Orlando. His techniques are legit. Different than what I practice but legit.

@JayP7178

4 ай бұрын

@@JoseFuentes-fn3dl He can hurt your wrist but he’s never fought anyone. Never been in full contact, either. Van Damme has which should put him over.

Benny Urquidez describes Seagal as being a very skilled fighter . If people believe Seagal is a scam they have not a single clue

@stevet5379

4 ай бұрын

What "The Jet" said is that Seagull is a legit Aikido practitioner. At no time did he call him a skilled fighter. In fact nobody has ever called Seagull a skilled fighter, but props have been given to him for his level of Aikido mastery. Aikido is NOT a combat art!

@radurobert1

4 ай бұрын

This is not true . I saw the words coming from "The Jet" own mouth . He called Seagal a very good fighter or skilled fighter. He did not mentioned the word Aikido in any way . And he was very serious . @@stevet5379

I think it really just stemmed from jealousy. Van Damme was a lot more successful. Let's be real. JCVD's movies were much more entertaining.

@dougsmith2658

4 ай бұрын

Seagal made better movies

@robbie726

4 ай бұрын

@@dougsmith2658 In your opinion.

Awesome video I gald I share with you

I would rather see these two be in a partner movie like Tango and Cash or something like that.

I hope Don and Qissi show up in shape, id hate to see our heroes just show up for a pay day...

Ah man, listen we missed Seagal's prime years or when he was a Huge Box office draw like in 1990, 91, when the fight would've been very appealing. Now, idk. Van Damme has the age advantage, I still wouldn't want Seagal to get ahold of me though and Seagal is much taller and heavier. Even Luke Rockhold said don't let Seagal get ahold of your wrist. Apparently Seagal almost broke Rockhold's wrist 🤷

@StarforceHH

8 ай бұрын

Seagal is a very large man. And not slow. He's perfected a very dangerous front mae geri with the leading leg. I've used this in goju tournaments its deadly very hard to read the hip. Jean's style is usually from a wide back stance which yes is very good but makes a very tall guy hard to read. Just my opinion

@rnkmode1876

8 ай бұрын

@StarforceHH I agree, it's funny when people say Van Damme would easily win... I always think, have you seen how fast and deadly Seagal's hands are and he has effective kicks. Just because he didn't take Van Damme up on fighting at Stallone's house doesn't mean Jack. What are you tought??. To avoid fights when you can, since it was a party and especially back then guarantee you Van Damme was buzzed. Seagal knew it I'm sure, you think he'd let Van Damme get close enough to strike him and do nothing?? Nope.

@bryanreyes7382

8 ай бұрын

Steven Seagal "accidentally" broke Sean Connery's wrist

@rnkmode1876

8 ай бұрын

@@bryanreyes7382 I heard about that.

@caza728

8 ай бұрын

@@rnkmode1876Van Damme might have been coked up.

I'm still waiting for a Jackie Chan Van Damme movie. They are passed their prime physically but I'd love to see an action comedy. Perhaps Van Damme in Rush Hour 4?

It would be over in seconds. All JCVD would have to do is his signature splits nut punch lol.

Segal and I once were on a airplane together. The pilot and co pilot both got sick. Segal and I took over and landed the plane. Saving all 47 people on board. He then taught me Russian and got me a job with the CIA.

@DemiGod..

4 ай бұрын

I heard that the CIA were all taught to fight by segal whilst he was on the toilet taking a poop.

this mess has been going on for how long? Van Damme would win because fitness matters. PLUS its obvious Van Damme can hit,kick,and has plenty of power behind it..Seagal has always been so full of himself. Like HE is the only one that knows martial arts and can fight. Thats how he's always come off. Im honestly more scared of your cat David, than i would be Seagal and im not even a fighter lol..

@johndough8115

8 ай бұрын

The reason you say such Ignorant things, is because you are not a fighter. Im a masterclass level fighter myself. Seagal has far superior technique, and technology. And while Seagal is overweight.. he can move his mass quickly, and utilize its totality, in ways that Van Damm ..can not. Seagal has dont plenty of Iron Fist conditioning.. so his hands are hard as Rocks. Yes, Seagal is a Narcissist... but, like many Narcissists, he is highly skilled, due to daily dedicated efforts. Watch Seagals clip of him toying with an MMA fighter, in a public demo. The dude tries to land some hits... and Seagal easily deflects everything.. and starts to add Counterstrikes, and then adds in some kicks as well. Raw strength alone, cant defeat superior technology. Most of my training is in Wing Chun. I also cross trained in various other arts, including boxing strikes, and TKD + Muay Thai kicking. I used to spar against fighters that were up to 2x my own mass and strength... and Id completely Outclass them.. with them rarely able to get a single hit on me. This is not to brag. Part of it was my Mastery of the Art.. but a lot of it was the fact that WC's "COMBAT" technology... is far superior to the modern "SPORTIZED" artforms. The more you understand about how the Higher level arts function... the more you will realize, just how dangerous of a man, like Seagal, can be. Typical sportized arts, are like the local Burger Flipper. Where as the high level Combat arts... are like Chef Gordon Ramsay. If you think a typical home cook / burger flipper... stands a chance against such a Chef... think again. The differences are worlds apart... just as Combat arts, are worlds apart from sportized arts. Now... Im not saying that you can be a highly skilled artist, without any fitness at all. In fact, I had a daily hardcore.. 1 hour long, CORE workout routine. But you dont have to look like a Roid'ed gym freak.. to be a Lethal Level Combat artist. These days, Im well out of shape... and likely would not have the stamina for a standard sparring match. That said, my limbs are still conditioned... and my body is still capable of the trained skillsets + lethal levels of output power. And the thing is.. in a REAL fight, you dont have to "Chase" the OP. The OP is rushing at you... so it doesnt take much effort to Dispatch them, quickly. Its very different from sport / sparring.. where the fighters "Dance" in and out of range... being extremely Careful. Ive fought against more fighters than I can actually remember. What I can tell you from this... is that you Never underestimate Any fighter. Especially one that has multi-thousands of Reps / Hours... within his limbs.

I'd love to watch a Seagal/Van Damm movie. would be cool if they made a coop last hurray hommage to the 80's with a cool story that also fits their age and some humor.

DAZN needs to get on this asap!

I haven't heard about the $20 million offer, but I do know about Van Damme's feud with Seagal, including their potential fight at Stallone's house. Van Damme used to talk about it a lot, but not so much anymore. Van Damme is open to losing on screen, as seen in his past film roles, but he refused to lose to Seagal due to their rivalry. Seagal, on the other hand, has a strict no-losing policy written into his contracts. He caused a delay in "Executive Decision" when he was told his character would die on screen, and only agreed to finish the film only out of fear of being sued and not having his death shown on screen. I believe Seagal's reluctance to lose in films may have cost him a role in "The Expendables,". Segal knows Stallone since he went to a party at his house, and even Van Damme's has endorse him saying it would be good for him to appear in the Expendables. This is very frustrating as a viewers, especially when a hero effortlessly defeats top-tier opponents without ever getting hit. I used to be a big Seagal fan, but his unwillingness to lose on screen or even get hit became a noticeable issue. In contrast, movies with actors like Scott Adkins, Keanu Reeves, Michael Jai White, Billy Blanks, Don the Dragon Wilson. Michael Jai White, Van Damme, Stallone, Arnold, etc offer more engaging action scenes, with fights becoming progressively challenging as they face stronger opponents. For instance, the intense fight between Jason Bourne and Desh in "The Bourne Ultimatum" kept the audience on edge even if the camera was a bit shaky which I am not quite a fan off.

@RTilse

8 ай бұрын

I remember Segal getting hit once or twice... "Is that all you've got? I guess I'm just going to have to kill you!"

It's easy to find out if this was legit story or not. The story said "They offered $20m to fight at the Mirage." Who is they? Ask the people who were putting up the money. However, Segal's attitude towards Van Damme is the same he has with every other martial artist who does acting. He puts out the image that he's the only legit martial artist that acts but backs down when he's called out on it.

@watchmyepics

8 ай бұрын

Facts, he discredits every martial artist that acts, his words r killing his own credibility

@doublevision84

7 ай бұрын

Sylvester Stallone & chuck norris both confirmed the story was true.

The only thing Seagal is fighting is diabetes.....

It makes me sad. Both peaked at the same time. Early movies were amazing. They both took something that was niche and made it main stream. I would love to see these two bury the hatchet like Schwarzenegger and Stallone did. People would watch these two martial art movie icons team up. Also, wouldnt it be amazing if there was some martial art. Expendables meet Red. Chan, Li, Bolo, Atkins, Wilson, Rothrock and Speakman. Too late now, but you would have to admit that would be really awesome.

JCVD 💪💯🇺🇸 JCVD would put Segal in the dirt ,💯‼️💪👍🇺🇸

This needed to be done decade's ago. It doesn't seem like too much of a big deal nowadays. They're both past their prime. I think Segal is 10 years older than JCVD.

I honestly don't know how Seagal would have done in the 80s/90s vs JCVD. I need to know more about his skillset, mainly, 1) How was his Jujitsu for taking someone down? 2) Wasn't Seagal a black belt in Judo as well (or have considerable skill in Judo)? I cant seem to confirm that beyond a Wikipedia statement, but if he was at the time, that adds CONSIDERABLE game to his arsenal, unless Van Damme takes his shirt off to fight like in half his movies 😅, then Seagal better have some wrestling takedowns. 3) How is Seagal in the clinch range? Can he throw elbows and knees to set up takedowns (or get a wristlock if he's really lucky)? 4) Did JCVD know Muay Thai at the time of Stallone's house party?? If he did, and trained it for more than a few months or especially a year, Casey F'king Ryback is probably screwed :o0 I think Van Damme took up Muay Thai after Kickboxer in 1988, so....I'll hand this one to Van Damme. But if they got into grappling range, I lean towards Seagal

@bloodlinefilms

8 ай бұрын

as an aikido master and much larger than jcvd but not a kickboxer or striker necessarily if he didnt get aced by some fast hard hits if he got control of an arm or a leg its all joint locks and manipulation. all 6’whatever of segal vs 5’something of jcvd segal with even at his fittest a significant weight advantage segal would be formidable. that said one well placed spin kick is dropping segal like a dumpster full of concrete.

I loved both of their movies in the late 80s and early 90s. I, however, took a different approach with martial arts. When I saw "Perfect Weapon" with Jeff Speakman I wanted to train American Kenpo; loved Kenpo sticks. As martial artists, Jean Claude and Steven are very different. And, in my opinion, Steven's hybrid striking akido style would be more effective in a non-choreograped fight between the two. Neither would fair well on the street or MMA. I don't really know if either can take a real punch or kick. They are actors and martial artists. Stunt performers would know best that have worked with the two. I have heard poor things about Jean Claude and Steven both from stunt performers through the years. Not to mention their actor peers. Honestly after more than 30 years of this feud, who knows. They are both actors and martial artists. As long as it keeps their names coming up in the media, I guess, it's a good thing for both of them. Regardless of what the truth really is regarding the matter. As martial artists, I would not want either as an instructor. Love the videos and insight as always Viking Samurai!

@jojotakuma4622

8 ай бұрын

Dat was a Realy Good Movie ..PW..✌🎥

Im a fan of both of them and they both have their haters but they have also given film fans years of entertainment and have both spent years of mastering their arts so it could go either way and neither is young anymore if it was for a charity exhibition match it might be fun but if im honest i wouldn't want to see them hurt each other for real And good luck with your upcoming movie career sir👍

So I seen a video on Arsenio Hall show where Steven Seagal was saying things about Jean-Claude Van Damme and Jean Claude came walking down the steps where the audience sat, and Steven Seagal just sat there. I can’t find that video anywhere, but I know I seen it.

It goes back further than the Arsinio Hall interview. Van damme and segal were apparently friendly enough at one point, until o e night in a casino. Segal was trying his best with some women and JCVD turned up and the women surrounded him. Causing a petty jealousy in segal that never left him. I heard that from someone in an interview that was there. One of those compilation videos about segal. Who exactly said it, i cant remember.

I really do hope that Seagal will make at least one more good action movie. He made too many awesome movies over the years to end it with something as tepid as Beyond the Law. If he could do one or two more like The Keeper, Urban Justice, or Pistol Whipped I'd be happy.

@UMAMIMAMU

8 ай бұрын

You'd rather see another "Urban Justice" or "Pistol Whipped" than another "Hard To Kill" or "Marked For Death".

@MatrixCobretti

8 ай бұрын

@@UMAMIMAMU Of course not, but that ship has sailed. The days of big-budget theatrically released movies like the ones you mentioned are long past. Realistically, I think something like "The Keeper" is a perfectly respectable way for him to end his career.

@RM-306

8 ай бұрын

Agreed, Even an Into the Sun type movie. I want at least one of 2 half decent movies from him and Van damme.

@MatrixCobretti

8 ай бұрын

@@RM-306 I'd be good with that too. I forget how decent Into the Sun is. That final assault sequence is gloriously brutal!

@UMAMIMAMU

8 ай бұрын

@@MatrixCobrettiI dunno man, in my personal opinion the last "half decent" thing he did was Half Past Dead (pun intended?) which was *terrible* . The last _good_ movie he did was Exit Wounds, which was supposed to be his "big return". Suffice to say that "big return" never happened, despite Exit Wounds doing really well in the movies. As far as budgets and whatnot are concerned, it's really here nor there. All the money in the world won't make a lick of difference if Seagal is determined to put in the least amount of effort possible, which is precisely what he does, and _precisely_ why his movies have sucked eggs for the past 20 years. I grew up loving Seagal as much as anyone, but when he can't be bothered to dub his own voice post production, and uses doubles for literally ANYTHING he doesn't deserve people coming to his aid. Van Damme has been making movies in that same market for about the same amount of time and plenty of them are decent flicks. Why? Cause he TRIES. I fail to see how Steven Seagal is rated unfairly in _any_ avenue. His bad reputation stems from his own actions, nothing else.

Great video! I love both of them but overall JCVD is better.

Anyone remember Kimmy on Blossom saying (during a phone conversation) "Are you kidding?! Seagal would kick Van Damme's ass!" lol. I always wanted to see the two of them either fight for real, or in the films. But like Arnold and Stallone, they were rivals in a competitive market and it never happened. I think it would have been fun, film wise.

This could be interesting all rounder vs close range both are men are heroes inspiration be good to watch both legendary

First let me say I grew up watching both of these guys and I’m a fan of both of your movies, it truly is a shame they couldn’t put their egos aside and make a movie together in the 80s it would’ve been awesome. As far as a real fight goes anybody with any short of training can see that Vandam would win very easily with the exception of Steven get a lucky. Anything can happen in a real fight but let’s be real this would favor Van Damme 95%

Whatever happened to JCVD’s planned fight with Somluck back in 2012?

@alwkicksta

8 ай бұрын

I believe JC was dealing with a hip issue at the time and couldnt ever get medically cleared/approved for the bout.

This should have happened years ago lol

It does Segal no honor to talk like that about Jean-Claude Van Damme! I mean, show some respect man! We all know that Van Damme was a karate competitor and he competed in a real tournament! So, he's not just an actor with memorized fight scenes, as Steven Segal tries to make him out to be! Also, I've heard many martial artists say that JCVD is a really big deal! 🥋

Wow that would be amazing

@VikingSamurai

8 ай бұрын

Definitely

Regardless of anything else, I don't think it's ever good to give negative opinions about others. Why not use questions that people ask as an opportunity to build friendships? Van Damme seems like a really great guy aside from being very talented. If I was Seagal I would respond by saying, "I really don't like to give opinions on people because I don't know but Van Damme seems very talented and has great screen presence. Maybe we can work together in the future". In fact, maybe today Seagal would revise some things he said years ago. And that would just mean he's matured and sees things in a more constructive way. These guys are not getting any younger so hopefully who can beat who up is not the focus and other things like working together take precedence. This isn't the 7th grade.

Houdini (Sylvester Stallone words) ran away while JCVD waited outside for him, JCVD found him again and SS pulled another Houdini.

If that fight happened...I think it would be in the top 10 fights ever

If they didn't fight when they could, they certainly will not now. Besides, I do not think Seagal would expose himself to the possibility of making a fool of himself more than he has. I do think he's got some moves and definitely knows some stuff like twisting the hand of a drunk here and there, but I don't think of Steven Seagal as a serious fighter.

I think sly would have to interfear in the fight and say NOT IN MY HOUSE, with a rocket launcher pointed at them.

To bad we never got to see Van Damme vs Khamsing.

JCVD would kick his ass, he comes from Brussels so for sure he s been in some fights and has another temperament then Steven Seagal. JCVD also has a temper Steven jusft a big talker no action... I not give Steven much chance against JCVD in a real fight.

To be honest, they both are too old for the real fight. They would probably hurt their backs if both of them try any crazy stuff in real deal fight. So yeah, I don't believe that any of them would agree to fight each other in real fight. Maybe in some movie but not in real fight. Because in the movie the stunt double can do your work for you and get hurt instead of you. So yeah, I don't believe it.

Your hair looks allot better now. Good job 👍🏻

I think Tim Allen is kind of busy these days, so maybe Steven Seagal can fill in on the Santa movies? 🤣

Seagals currently working on a documentary about the Russia/Ukraine conflict, from the pov of the Russians. Should be interesting.

This is the fight we all wanted to see 30 years ago when they were both in peak physical condition.

Oh yeea.. Steven is crazy good. Have you seen all the fighters who attempt to fight him and he sends them flying thru the air instead!? WOW.. he really is the best fighter that ever lived.

Back in the day I would have put my money on Van Damme, he would have smashed him from distance with his kicks while Seagal would have needed to get really close to win, very unlikely Van Damme would have allowed this to happen imo.

20 million each? That's a lot of money, but being action stars it may be not worth it, since your reputation could drop and that will follow you for the rest of your career. However, I believe the offer was real.

@aikidoboynj

8 ай бұрын

Van Damme also challenged Chuck Zito to a fight at a titty bar, it didn't end too well for Van Damme and it was literal front page news that he got his ass kicked.

@neotenylv09

8 ай бұрын

@@aikidoboynj Well Van Damme was drunk and maybe a little bit high, so in my opinion that doesn't really count. I mean, I hope Chuck is not proud of beating a drunk guy 😂

Did Seagal fight in the taurnaments ? Nooooo Did V Damme fight ? Yessss So who's a real man ?

Remember who started this! Segal.

In They're Prime It Would Have Been a Brilliant Fight, I Still Believe Van Damme Would Have Won, If They Were To Fight Now? Given The Physical Condition Of Both Fighters Today Van Damme Would Definitely Win, That Said It Would Be Great If Seagal and Van Damme Could Put They're Differences Aside and Work Together? It Would Be Great To See These 2 Legends On Screen Together.

Both legends, But I still think Van Damme would win in the Ring & Seagal would win in the street. Id rather see them team up for a movie then anything....I won't hold my breath

They would only work well together if the story was like Rapid Fire. Partners trying to outdo each other as friends against the bad guys.

Hey, I would gladly take a dive for $20 Million! 😄

Seagal has this fight in the bag, hands down! So long as Van Damme keeps running into him and falling over, he doesn't have a chance! 😂

Jean Claude was a world champion... he practiced a lot in Belgium..