Examining The Glaswegian Accent | Darren McGarvey’s Class Wars | BBC Scotland

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Darren McGarvey, aka Loki the Scottish rapper, looks at how certain regional accents - such as the Glasgow brogue - can cause us to be judged by others, raising the question about the social class system, and its impact in Scotland today.
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  • @adentzya
    @adentzya3 жыл бұрын

    To me Glasgow accent is the most interesting and beautiful accent in the world, peace

  • @NgocHan-gy8mz

    @NgocHan-gy8mz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree,

  • @lynnharrell9598

    @lynnharrell9598

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too.

  • @anti8827

    @anti8827

    2 жыл бұрын

    i like southern african better

  • @adentzya

    @adentzya

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@anti8827 second after Scottish :D

  • @ImYouMe44

    @ImYouMe44

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes thats true

  • @SmithyD86
    @SmithyD863 жыл бұрын

    As a scouser I felt your Glaswegian pain when she started talking about people judging us when we speak.

  • @fionawinderam9987
    @fionawinderam99873 жыл бұрын

    Wow great piece. As Glaswegian who has lived & worked in England for 50yrs I used to be accused of being aggressive when presenting or training. The reason "Your from Glasgow" Racism in the office.

  • @psychic_cat_production

    @psychic_cat_production

    Жыл бұрын

    Experienced similar actually in the US

  • @jerrypark236

    @jerrypark236

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello Fiona I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it

  • @paulv7041

    @paulv7041

    Ай бұрын

    Aw sick and tired of being accused of aggression just because how I speak and present to certain people. That's how everyone talked when I grew up.

  • @chelseakey7862
    @chelseakey78623 жыл бұрын

    As Appalachian in the US, it really isn’t news to me that a group can be looked down upon by their own countrymen. There’s even municipality laws in place in cities around the Appalachian mountains where people have tried to either ban discrimination against the accent, or encourage it. Children are often encouraged to shed their accents, turns of phrase and colloquialisms so they have a better chance of leaving the mountains, and the poverty, for what’s seen as a better life in the flatlands.

  • @pluviophilius2354

    @pluviophilius2354

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very sad to hear that. I've been fascinated with English dialects/accents for as long as I can remember, and Appalachian English always was one of the more interesting ones. Knowing how difficult it is to find recordings of it already, it truly is saddening to hear that the dialect is still being shunned...

  • @chelseakey7862

    @chelseakey7862

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pluviophilius2354 thank you, stranger. It’s lovely to know it’s appreciated by some.

  • @SirMrShanks

    @SirMrShanks

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love the appalachians! Your accent and speech stem from our accent here in Northern Ireland - The ulster scotch. I'm one of the Ulster Scots whose family didn't leave for the US.

  • @rapturesrevenge

    @rapturesrevenge

    9 ай бұрын

    Late to the party, but hi! Half of my family is from West Virginia/southeast Ohio. I LOVE the mountains and wish the people there were treated with the respect they deserve (though I wish the people there weren't so, shall we say, bigoted; I haven't visited my grandfather's grave in over a decade because I don't want to be killed). They deserve access to education, good food, clean water, healthcare, and employment opportunities that aren't centered around the coal mines. Just because they're "simple folk," (my mom, who is from WV, describes the people of WV this way, and she doesn't mean it in a mean or condescending way) doesn't mean they're not intelligent or undeserving of any of the things I listed.

  • @Lighthammer66
    @Lighthammer663 жыл бұрын

    I love them all. Scottish, Irish, English. All variations on each as well. It's like music to my ears.😀😀

  • @LyndseyMacPherson
    @LyndseyMacPherson3 жыл бұрын

    What an unrelentingly strange world we find ourselves in, where judgement is passed on the song of one's voice. I am not immune; I've oft' thought Glaswegian accents the most lovely of them all.

  • @katerinakemp5701
    @katerinakemp57013 жыл бұрын

    I think the Glaswegian accent is lovely. Come to that all the Scots accents are beautiful.

  • @georgejob7544

    @georgejob7544

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahm fae Lanarkshire hen,an ah speak just lik you know whit ah mean! Aw right ! Proud Scot !

  • @jerrypark236

    @jerrypark236

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it

  • @hellacoorinna9995

    @hellacoorinna9995

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgejob7544 Alreet?

  • @cimareco3617
    @cimareco36173 жыл бұрын

    I am german but I absolutely love the glasgow accent 😍 For me it sounds so rough and cool!

  • @Ma-id1nl
    @Ma-id1nl3 жыл бұрын

    Such a great vid!

  • @ydesdev1
    @ydesdev12 жыл бұрын

    French Anglophile here. Really interesting stuff, though not too sure about trusting RP speakers more than Scottish ones. I remember phone calls from my bank when I was broke and thinking how much nicer it was to hear a Scottish English speaker than a middle class RP speaker telling me effectively the same thing.

  • @catherinelawson9074
    @catherinelawson90743 жыл бұрын

    About 20 years ago, my two sons and I were on a flight to Glasgow. I picked up the accent of the two men beside us and told my Canadian boys that they were from Glasgow. My sons were unimpressed. A little while later, the two men engaged me in conversation. "We're frae Glesgeh," they said. I nodded, knowingly. My boys had to acknowledge their mother knew more than they thought she did. (My parents are from Fife, and I visited Scotland often as a child.) Also, I would never look down on a person with a Glasgow accent.

  • @jerrypark236

    @jerrypark236

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello Catherine I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it

  • @ExtraScottish
    @ExtraScottish3 жыл бұрын

    Love it! I’m always trying to do my impressions and botching a few here and there. Glaswegian is always fun!!!!

  • @peacefullyme848
    @peacefullyme848 Жыл бұрын

    Its my favorite accent. I have been reading since 3 so I wouldn't let anyone read to me except my grandmother with her accent. Its lovely to me.

  • @amangogna68
    @amangogna683 жыл бұрын

    Great video !

  • @HarcusCGTV
    @HarcusCGTV2 жыл бұрын

    The minute you go to Hamilton, Motherwell, Ayrshire it all changes... plus people in Steps and Riddrie don't talk like people from the Gorbals or Govan and certainly not like Clarkeston or Bearsden (thats due to "class" more than anything as Darren pints out)... At the end of the day there is no "Glasgow accent" in the same way there is no "Edinburgh accent" or "Scottish Accent" or "British accent". A very interesting piece none the less.

  • @bellarose6509
    @bellarose65097 ай бұрын

    I love your accent and speech, especially since it is probably how my great grandmother sounded when she spoke!❤

  • @GailsHealingHaven
    @GailsHealingHaven3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I thought I wasn't listened to because I a woman. To discover the handicap of a weedgie accent means I often won't be believed explains a lot about why Dr's never believed/listened to me to the point I'm now seeing a psychologist to deal with the trauma of medical gaslighting/abuse. Really interesting video. Recording the rerun of series.

  • @LuminalSpoon
    @LuminalSpoon2 жыл бұрын

    That moment when you recognise that bit of Pollok haha.

  • @nicom202
    @nicom2023 жыл бұрын

    So insightful, i tend to do this as well, interesting to hear an explanation for it

  • @jerrypark236

    @jerrypark236

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello Nicole I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it

  • @juanfernandocarabalicarvaj6639
    @juanfernandocarabalicarvaj66393 жыл бұрын

    Nice! I loved it!

  • @danw1374
    @danw13743 жыл бұрын

    In Glasgow people don't say 'Why?' they say 'How?'

  • @HarcusCGTV

    @HarcusCGTV

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not just in Glasgow.

  • @chriswinter6672

    @chriswinter6672

    2 ай бұрын

    And "How no?" instead of "Why not?"

  • @Michael-Bennett
    @Michael-Bennett3 жыл бұрын

    A very interesting explanation. I love his accent!

  • @autox7612
    @autox76122 жыл бұрын

    I remember my professor Kenneth in Sussex back then, loved his accent. I remember him teaching the class and he said.. theeeee firrrrrrrRSSST thing when you aNsWER the question.. hhaah hope he is well tho!

  • @bimalmagar3039
    @bimalmagar30392 жыл бұрын

    I love your accent❤️

  • @fenellainnis7216
    @fenellainnis72162 жыл бұрын

    I love my working class Glaswegian accent,I hate that we are losing some of our unique words and phrases to the more acceptable university Glasgow accent to fit in with the rest of society.Our strong accent is now looked down on by more well heeled Glaswegians ,which is a crying shame to be seen that way by your fellow Glaswegians of all people 😡.

  • @alistairthompson8311

    @alistairthompson8311

    Жыл бұрын

    Always been that way to some extent. The University of Glasgow is one of Scotland's oldest. There's always been a Glaswegian middle class, same as there's a proud Edinburgh working class. The stereotypes of each city are only half true.

  • @drrd4127
    @drrd41272 жыл бұрын

    I am not Glaswegian but from a town 20 minutes from Glasgow and I also say Societ(-ie) and then when I want to be heard and clear Societ(y). It's the same with many words, talk to my dad, Aye. Talking to my boss, Yes. It is like we instinctively switch accents to fit into appear more refined and upper class without thinking about it. There is no reason for me to say, Yes, every English speaker knows what Aye means yet my brain just does it. I think this is because our education system teaches us we can't be successful the way we talk naturally, even within Scotland. No one shames Americans for saying, Y'all.

  • @julierogers1155
    @julierogers11553 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting.

  • @bengroya2289
    @bengroya22892 жыл бұрын

    “People are still kind of ALLOWED to use accent as a vehicle to make social judgements about other people” “Allowed” - good Lord take it easy lady

  • @sothathappened
    @sothathappened3 жыл бұрын

    i love your accent!

  • @itaierrol
    @itaierrol3 жыл бұрын

    Scottish is Scottish for me as a learner. It sounds soft to my ear and very nice. It needn't be "proper English". I am actually sick of "typical British English" audiotapes teaching me some "proper English pronunciation". I can do a "proper grammar", but I am tired of listening to someone speaking as if they are robots from England speaking to a peasant.

  • @reclaimedandrested
    @reclaimedandrested3 жыл бұрын

    This gave me My Fair Lady feels!

  • @wow1221
    @wow12212 жыл бұрын

    Go on ya selt wee man!!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @plumduffy334
    @plumduffy3343 жыл бұрын

    I think the Glaswegian Accent is the best accent in Scotland

  • @samanthasanchez2156
    @samanthasanchez21562 жыл бұрын

    The most beautiful and earthy accent of the English speaking world 💗

  • @DenkyManner
    @DenkyManner3 жыл бұрын

    I love the Glasgow accent. Lots of incredibly funny Glaswegian people. And i had suspect it had become more distinctive, a deliberate move towards non-English pronunciations and slang

  • @backgroundmusic8911

    @backgroundmusic8911

    3 жыл бұрын

    It isnae so much about anti-Englishness. It's class - naebody in Glasgow wants to let on that they're middle class, they'll get slagged aff too much, cause there's sae many folk who come fae proud working class families.

  • @stefan_HEX
    @stefan_HEX2 ай бұрын

    Is not a dialect and not an accent? Iove it. Often sounds nordic like Swedish where im from. And i have lived in Glasgow. I find it very nice, smooth and kind sounding.

  • @danii6752
    @danii6752 Жыл бұрын

    I do not why but this accent has something very attractive to me!

  • @danw1374

    @danw1374

    7 ай бұрын

    It's so profound I love it.

  • @rapkae
    @rapkae Жыл бұрын

    I'm German and I'm in Glasgow right now and i really like the accent. it's unique. but I do have a hard time to understand it 😅

  • @mick2spic
    @mick2spic Жыл бұрын

    I just love Kelly Macdonald’s accent, so sexy and adorable. I think the Glasgow accent is one of the better ones in the UK

  • @yux.tn.3641
    @yux.tn.3641 Жыл бұрын

    that part the researcher said is scary

  • @harryhill8543
    @harryhill85433 жыл бұрын

    Glasgow isnt one village but many small villages. Thats been my experience. Theres no a single Glasgow accent, theres a few..

  • @backgroundmusic8911

    @backgroundmusic8911

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah'm fae Glasgow an honestly, ah couldnae tell ye the difference between Kilmarnock an Cumbernauld accents.

  • @harryhill8543

    @harryhill8543

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@backgroundmusic8911 worked in a few different bits of glasgow over the years, quite a few can. Ayrshire is easy to spot, they end a sentence with Hey!

  • @Cajkelfa

    @Cajkelfa

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@backgroundmusic8911 aye I ken I’m fae killie mate

  • @Cajkelfa

    @Cajkelfa

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@harryhill8543 we don’t end an accent with hey 😂😂 never heard that in my life mate

  • @harryhill8543

    @harryhill8543

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Cajkelfa Know guys from Beith and Kilburnie so its from the horses mouth hey lol its also down as the second worst accent on pie n bovril!

  • @melimelo4
    @melimelo46 ай бұрын

    As a French native, I find the Glaswegian accent so much more interesting and full of character...

  • @PMC2oo9
    @PMC2oo93 жыл бұрын

    Glaswegians speak english tv glasgow accent and then the true glesga accent to their own ppl

  • @Ben-db5re
    @Ben-db5re3 жыл бұрын

    Who described Glasgow as the largest village in the world?

  • @lbrtvlldr
    @lbrtvlldr2 жыл бұрын

    As a Spanish speaker living in an English-speaking country, I couldn't empathize more. And it is the same for Asians, Africans... The accent prison.

  • @AbcDef-hm6kt
    @AbcDef-hm6kt Жыл бұрын

    That sucks. I know some history of the UK but I didn't think the accent was that looked down upon. I personally like the accent and the slang to me is as good as bogan Aussie lol. Kinda crazy that it's the same chunk of land and the same language is so different and ostracized. Honestly I like how it sounds more down to earth than normal Brit, sounds less pretentious and from the heart. Coming from a dude from the US.

  • @Dan-eq6po
    @Dan-eq6po Жыл бұрын

    Belfast is

  • @keanongee2032
    @keanongee2032 Жыл бұрын

    All serious at first then she cracks up laughing at accent

  • @charifjock8179
    @charifjock81793 жыл бұрын

    Still get the girls from down south they love it 😉

  • @owen2835
    @owen28352 жыл бұрын

    whys this filmed like an episode of inside the worlds most dangerous prisons

  • @Oleksiy777
    @Oleksiy7773 жыл бұрын

    Englishmen think their variant of English is for some reason more correct and more suited for the upper class. Now I am not a native speaker, but even I see that's just wrong. Let English dialect advance to Scottish language instead.

  • @alex68vg

    @alex68vg

    3 жыл бұрын

    The majority of English people dont speak RP...we have accents too that are looked down on, particularly northern accents like mine

  • @theboi1427
    @theboi14272 жыл бұрын

    “ahnd ah whant tae no whai thatis” i love the accent with all my heart but i don’t think it’s about to do any favors romantically

  • @ImInterestedInApathy808
    @ImInterestedInApathy8082 ай бұрын

    the background music ruins the video

  • @santodiablo_pma
    @santodiablo_pma2 жыл бұрын

    heavy accent... I am panamanian, and I am improving my english all by myself with no help at all....

  • @glpro2696
    @glpro26962 жыл бұрын

    James McAvoy

  • @abw48

    @abw48

    2 жыл бұрын

    James McAvoy is from The Drum.

  • @med6789
    @med6789 Жыл бұрын

    ratio

  • @user-yf6nd4sn3k
    @user-yf6nd4sn3k2 жыл бұрын

    Without meaning to put down Glaswegians, I think it's because the accent is associated with depressingly dysfunctional and antisocial people and places, an image exacerbated by stereotypes presented by media and culture, but not without some truth to it I would say. These things aren't the fault of weegies, caused by politics and economics, but regardless of blame, that's the association now, IMO.

  • @stephenmcconnell1000

    @stephenmcconnell1000

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm from Glasgow myself and I would say that your theory of this assumption is pretty much correct.

  • @IAmKillEveryone
    @IAmKillEveryone2 жыл бұрын

    i heard glasgow is fulla speccy bams

  • @abw48
    @abw482 жыл бұрын

    I have trouble hearing both people speak because that stupid music is on top of the words... WHY have music when people are speaking?. I was born in Glesga 1948, moved away in 1966 and today people still can hear Im Scottish but they become surprised that they can understand me as they have been in Glasgow before and so my accent has mellowed out as Ive moved around the World since 1966... Glasgow today is a very different City that the one I grew up in the Toonheid part of Toon.

  • @rippedtorn2310
    @rippedtorn23102 жыл бұрын

    Says more about how English view us .Rest of the world doesn't have a natural bias against any Scots.

  • @feliscorax

    @feliscorax

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tell tha’ tae Willie!

  • @jangles8061

    @jangles8061

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ripped Torn I was just thinking the exact same thing! I'm from Glasgow, but I have what might be considered a more 'posh' Glaswegian accent. The feelings I sometimes get when conversing with people from certain (obvious) parts of England is horrible... That condescending vibe when they describe my accent as very 'broad'. Also, they apparently feel perfectly entitled to say the most obnoxious, ignorant things about my Country, and when I rightly correct them, they recoil as though I'm being overly defensive, or dare I say it, 'aggressive'. Never people from Liverpool though - I love people from Liverpool!

  • @jessmessing3146
    @jessmessing31463 жыл бұрын

    The least attractive accent in the UK? I don't believe it. The Glasgow accent is many things, but unattractive is not one of them. Who decides these things? Cosmo?

  • @jennifer2675

    @jennifer2675

    3 жыл бұрын

    individual opinions vary but the point they're trying to get across is that the accent is treated as if it were the most unattractive because of the prejudice shown towards it. the adjective is not being used as an insult but rather to explain what is happening (in society at large)

  • @robinmcewen3286

    @robinmcewen3286

    3 жыл бұрын

    The accent isn't unattractive at all. I have a Glasgow accent. But I don't use the colloquialism, dialect or vernacular that he uses. Too many Glaswegians are allowed to adopt lazy speech. Accents are irrelevant wherever you go in the UK. It's dialect and pronunciation that attracts prejudice.

  • @omarihardwick5633

    @omarihardwick5633

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jennifer2675 hello ❤❤

  • @rapturesrevenge
    @rapturesrevenge9 ай бұрын

    I admit to being guilty of judging people based on their accent here in the US. New York/New Jersey accent = rude, ignorant, impatient. Southern accent = ignorant, uneducated, stupid, bigoted, hateful, fake nice, use religion to justify racism/homophobia, out of touch. Meanwhile, because half of my family is from West Virginia, I have positive associations with the accent.

  • @loca8048
    @loca80482 жыл бұрын

    Drop the background music -it's distracting and adds nothing

  • @Hy-Brasil
    @Hy-Brasil3 жыл бұрын

    People from Scotland ....if you want to lift yourself out of whatever financial situation you're currently in, just become an audiobook narrator. Pick one of those raunchy Scottish time travel romances and get paid for speaking as naturally as possible. Millions of women will be throwing money at you. You will be the next Elon Musk (but with a wicked sexy accent)..... You could be uglier than a dog's rear end and it wouldn't make one bit of difference. Read the news paper, read the stock market report or the bible.... think of all the soul's you could save if you would read the bible and post the videos on youtube 🙌😂😍

  • @naromellow

    @naromellow

    Жыл бұрын

    I know this comment is old, but it made me laugh cuz it's so true! 😂

  • @simplyscottish7656
    @simplyscottish76563 жыл бұрын

    Loki is a prik

  • @johnknight9150
    @johnknight91503 жыл бұрын

    It's naw cos ye soond Glaswegian, it's cos ye soond like a wee ned.

  • @zeigbert1743
    @zeigbert17433 жыл бұрын

    The last acceptable prejudice 😂 In the age of intersectionality, I don't think so.

  • @siwc
    @siwc Жыл бұрын

    Not true. Not the least attractive accent in the uk. Least attractive ? That would be Scouse.

  • @shaunigothictv1003
    @shaunigothictv10033 жыл бұрын

    Nowadays most whites kids in London speak English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect which is very different from the anglo saxon dialect of English which is spoken in this t.v programme by this presenter. In the early 2000's, young white kids on council estates in London became JAMAICANISED. This is when they starting speaking with English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect. For example, Essex county is the only place in Britain where the cockney dialect/and or accent is still spoken. TO SUMMARISE: In the 1980's all the national British companies when through a process called national - PRIVATISATION - and then almost - SIMULTANEOUSLY - all the poor - NATIONAL - white kids endured a process called - JAMAICANISATION - which did indeed definitely - LEAD - to all poor - NATIONAL - white girls on estates quickly - UNDERGO - a process called Jamaican extreme - INSEMINATION - and thus all the young - RESULTING - half cast babies initiated a full - NATIONAL - process called extreme - BASTARDISATION. Remember everyone, that the last point regarding bastardisation is entirely optional, and is not my view but instead is the view of white nationalists.

  • @harryblack5041
    @harryblack5041 Жыл бұрын

    His accent is a bit shrill. Glaswegian nevertheless. Alas, a common nasal whine has found its way into the Glaswegian (lower class) accent. Verk akin to a laid back Salford brogue, but slightly more aggressive. Haud yer weesht, you...

  • @cazzi1929
    @cazzi19293 ай бұрын

    A noticed years ago a wis speakin way a British Scottish accent in ma very British university. Av been hidin fur a lang time ma accent because either folks don't ken it or don't want ta hear it. Unconsciously, it's an unconvincing accent; so, when I try to make convincing points, I always speak 'perfect' English to fool my audience that I am a rational and civilised individual. But no when a speak ta ma faimly. A think how sad it is that faimly from the Highlands that came ta Glasgow hid their accent - na their full tongue - ta. A want ta resist the oppression o culture n language - resist the assimilation inta English.

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