Every one of these Post Office people MUST GO TO PRISON!

@StuartJ

25 күн бұрын

They won't. They are too close to the civil service.

@danielchadwick-hh3cn

25 күн бұрын

None of them will go to prison, they will all just deny everything at trial and they will get away with it.

@TimComley

25 күн бұрын

Calm down ffs

@JacintasChromebook

25 күн бұрын

@@danielchadwick-hh3cn I think there will be jail sentences but sadly not this woman. She should be forced to give back her OBE and pay pay pack her pension tho

@JacintasChromebook

25 күн бұрын

@@TimComley they literally killed people mate its okay to not be calm about this lol.

posh and rich people don't go to prison even when they're obviously guilty. Prison is primarily reserved for poor people who cant afford good lawyers.

@beastylad7418

22 күн бұрын

Agree 100% Their Punishment is sitting in front of an inquiry shown on TV ‘ and maybe questioned outside court by some reporters’ but then it’s off to their Country piles to hide from justice. British justice/ joke. 😂

@DavoInMelbourne

22 күн бұрын

Yep. ‘A bit of a grilling’ at this inquiry is about all the accountability they’ll face, ever.

@rheazeus123

21 күн бұрын

Agree 💯.. and a lot of them poor people are innocent people..

@user-br2rr9tt2c

20 күн бұрын

Spot on! The CEO received (stole) a 3 million pound bonus.

@miketomlin6040

20 күн бұрын

Lots of rich and posh people in prison, plus a lot of the Post Office staff who were 'behind' the fraud were not rich or posh. Follow the inquiry!!

The disgusting thing is that nothing will happen , they are not sorry for what they did , only that they have been caught doing it

@ChrisM541

25 күн бұрын

If the yesterday's Blood Scandal report was able to damningly accuse so many of covering up the truth, and the government being forced to 'capitulate', then we fully expect the truth to be uncovered in this PO enquiry.

@JacintasChromebook

25 күн бұрын

no she isnt sorry at all

@brianlopez8855

25 күн бұрын

Well officialdom won't do anything...

@PastaSauce.

25 күн бұрын

I also feel like this will be the outcome. These upper class rats will work their way out of it like they have always done.

@jesmarina

24 күн бұрын

I'm sure a lot of them still think privately that the postmasters DID steal the money.

The post office knew there was a problem but framed them ........thats the real crime.

@rjjcms1

25 күн бұрын

And effectively robbed them and their families of everything they had in the process. Yet more amnesia when Venals has to appear tomorrow,I expect.

Prison for the criminal directors and managers!

@StuartJ

25 күн бұрын

Unlikely. They are too close to the civil service.

@StuartJ

22 күн бұрын

@@vrindersinghrandhawa6343 agreed. The Post Office is full of useful idiots, that have spent their entire life, being promoted up through the organisation. Not because they are any good, but because they toe line.

@PCDelorian

21 күн бұрын

@@StuartJ Somebody needs to go down, whether its the right people is to be seen but someone is going down for this.

@StuartJ

21 күн бұрын

@@PCDelorian if they go for corporate manslaughter, then maybe those at the top might go to jail. Otherwise they will try and make Gareth Jenkins be the fall guy, and maybe one or two others.

I want vennels in jail.

@RobertBoyle11

24 күн бұрын

Proper prison as well like all the victims had to go to. Not some suite away from all the other inmates... Holloway, Parkhurst, and her in the mix of it all.

@markrichards636

24 күн бұрын

Complicit with Governments

@RobertBoyle11

23 күн бұрын

@markrichards636 No doubt she'll be in the house of Lords, she's facing a major public scandal... that's the next step isn't it?

@johnwarne8941

22 күн бұрын

The Post Office investigators need to be arrested as they have clearly Perverted The Course Of Justice and failed to disclose legal material to the Defence that would have assisted the clients they were defending.

She should have all her bonuses confiscated under proceeds of crime and locked up

These people did nothing wrong got jailed now the people involved in this scandal have done wrong so why not them ?????

@JohnDavies-cn3ro

23 күн бұрын

Ah, but you see, these are TOP PEOPLE who MATTER - like Lord Lucan, who you may remember....... jail is only for innocent plebs like us, who unfortunately worked for the governmen........

@hubadabubbada

20 күн бұрын

And im sure they got jailed very quickly in comparison as well.

What I want to know why did these crooks send innocent people to prison.

@StuartJ

25 күн бұрын

Because they were onto a good thing. Fat salaries, and bonuses. Once they realised the gravity of the situation, they went into cover-up mode, which snowballed out of control.

@JacintasChromebook

25 күн бұрын

I think they really hate ordinary people? Like they saw themselves as better than everyone else? It's still strange tho even allowing for that tbh

@iansmith7369

25 күн бұрын

££££££££££

@rosemarymonty5399

24 күн бұрын

I believe that initially they actually thought that all these “working class” people did steal money. However, it soon became apparent within the Post Office Management that it was NOT just one person it was in the hundreds and they covered their butts by telling these individuals that it’s not happened to them nobody else complained about Horizon - An out and out LIE. The Post Office Management went out of their way to get convictions and to hide what they actually knew for years. Anybody in PO Management needs to spend significant amount of time in Jail for this terrible crime where innocent people had their entire life and reputation destroyed, some committing suicide, lost their houses and livelihood. which occurred over decades and is still unresolved. Good people and Good Management don’t spend time covering their butts. They own up to their mistakes as soon as they become aware. They don’t spend years and years trying to prove that they are right and the Sub Post Masters are thief’s!

@milo2324

24 күн бұрын

people commenting here didnt do their homework. #1. at that time it wad believed by the court systems, that the computer system cannot be wrong. If it shows that money are missinb, then it must be the postmasters. #2. Fujitsu were also saying, it is impossible to remotely add data to the system. #3. Bosses of the Post Office were always suspicious of Postmasters. THEY DID NOT TRUST THEM. YET THEY DID CHOOSE THEM!!! Also they had racist believe that because they were Indians, they were more likely to steal. And when the computer system show money missing, it was clear cut case!!!! #4. Post Office had unlimited budget for private prosecution thanks to the Governemnt NOT asking questions, why suddenly you need so much money to prosecute people, ...the same people YOU IDIOTS CHOOSE AND DID BACKGROUND CHECK ON THEM. #5. Postmasters were in position of trust. And the Post Office was NATIONAL TREASURE, beloved company. That is why the prison sentence for theft.

They (PO) thought they could get away with ruining people’s lives. Justice must be done.

She was happy to sit back and watch innocent people go to jail - now it is her turn behind bars. Her reputation (if she ever had one) is dashed to the ground and she will go to her grave knowing she was part of the worst crime in British history.

Malignant managerialism is everywhere.

@comanchio1976

22 күн бұрын

Our system rewards it. The turds float right to the top.

@dimsoneill

17 күн бұрын

Oh, well put. I'm stealing that. If people spent less time presenting results to senior management in increasingly elaborate PowerPoint presentations, and more time actually doing what they should be doing, then we would all be better off. And of course, when times get tough, the consultants come in and they aren't going to bite the hand that feeds are they, so the workers are the first to get the chop. Christ on a bike, it's farcked out there.

Jail sentence

@blackhorse8427

24 күн бұрын

Death sentence!

Paula will be suffering amnesia just like the rest 🤔

@monteceitomoocher

24 күн бұрын

Listened to quite a bit of this, collective amnesia seems to be rife among them.

@grahamhand8644

24 күн бұрын

@@monteceitomoocher She will have a serious case of CRAFT disease. Can't remember a f**king thing!

@coppershark1973

24 күн бұрын

Same as Johnson when he couldn’t recall any parties. They are all briefed to deny knowledge of anything.

@garywilson1235

23 күн бұрын

Collective, and selective amnesia, seems to be prevalent in the top people within Fujitsu and the PO

@sideshowbob5237

22 күн бұрын

And so it was - she did - the next day and the day after.

I still can't get over how somone like paula vennels gets to such a high position?

@canalboating

25 күн бұрын

It certainly wasn't through looks

@StrEetThief2

24 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@BeardLAD

24 күн бұрын

⁠@@canalboatingI’d suggest it was, but not her physical looks… …her ilk all look the same, to me, just as anyone with ‘good’ looks fills her ilk with revulsion. Funny thing about predators, is that they evolve to identify their prey, and this lot are a pack of hunter-gatherers… …e pluribus unum Additionally, not one of those ‘players’ cross-examined have a conscience, but some are easier to rattle than others; and behind closed doors or not, whether they even respect each other or not, they are a natural team. No manual, just a natural ability to identify what the pack desires and to individually play their ‘gatekeeping’ position of power - at whatever level - in satisfying those specific desires. Gatekeeping positions that are awarded because their ability to act in favour of the pack’s interest, has been recognised. Generally, it’s about gathering resources at the expense of those they hunt - sub-postmasters, taxpayers, decent human beings who have the power to improve The World, as well as actual criminals to help maintain the deception: but not all criminal enterprises - that’s why The World is the way it is… …evil knows evil, and everyone is expendable towards evil achieving what ‘it’ desires. That’s why Beauty is in the eye of The Beast: can’t destroy what can’t be seen. That’s also why you see some of them infiltrate & occupy seemingly good looking positions: camouflage. This ‘perversity’ amuses them. They have the will to endanger others (even when their employment is contingent on public ‘Health & Safety’), but at the same time they’ll protect themselves & each other to extremes: with little or no hesitation. They’re rarely if ever held accountable for this perversity. One only has to look at Loughinisland to understand this, and more. Nothing has changed, The World is still being run by ‘ugly’ people who won’t stop until it’s all attractive to them.

@conorferguson

24 күн бұрын

When you have no moral compass, you can lie, cheat your way to the top. I bet she thought she got out in time to avoid prosecution. I can’t wait to see her squirm tomorrow.

@sfsf6768

24 күн бұрын

It’s an elite club. One recommends the other. Friends in high places. You can see this happening over and over when the inquiry explores their backgrounds and career relationships.

Decent, lawful people deserve proper restitution-with interest over time. In the US the damages for each case would be in the tens of millions.

Where is the ex top lawyer, hiding overseas, drag her back, use the diplomatic tools in the box, the public is proper mad.

@fatwalletboy2

22 күн бұрын

Sir wyn will advise on why she isnt attending the inquiry today friday 24th May 2024 i believe, itll be interesting to find out. Part of me is beginning to wonder has she been bribed......she would be a key witness in all of this but amazingly is THE one witness not attending not even remotely!

The whole board need to go to prison, if anyone else çaused this much suffering and lied, causing such a massive fraud, they would be in prison. Why are they still walking free? I'm disgusted by our government, who have always known but chose to do nothing.

@le13579

18 күн бұрын

I think so, too. Not enough focus on the board - it wouldn't be because of all their political connections?

All the directors and lawyers involved all have to be sent to prison for greater than the minimum sentence that was given to all the innnocent PO staff.

@petermoss2373

25 күн бұрын

But the postmasters were wrongly accused so the sentences should be longer by far than the longest sentence received by any podtmaster.

Very, very poor effort from this witness. To say she didn’t know about prosecutions is ridiculous. Broke the world record for saying “ So “.

@sfsf6768

24 күн бұрын

Her and that witch angela (a misnomer if there ever was one). The ‘so’ amnesiacs.

@kathrynhobbs8874

21 күн бұрын

So…..you always know know you are about to hear less that the actuality

Good on that reporter for pressing for answers, should she give her OBE back...YES.....should she go to jail.....YES.

@edithflood631

14 күн бұрын

I liked the way the umbrella was close-hauled down like a hatch and then how the reporter was repeatedly lifting up the hatch to ask questions.

@edithflood631

14 күн бұрын

I liked the way the umbrella was closed down like a hatch and then how the reporter was repeatedly lifting up the hatch to ask questions.

Her life was ruined at 19. How much compensation should she receive? £10m

@Loupedelou

24 күн бұрын

That was the first figure I thought of. Only millions of pounds would be adequate compensation to make up for the bankruptcy, lost jobs, lost career opportunities due to having a criminal record, trauma, mental and emotional damage. And some prison sentences for those responsible.

@user-bl8zw4ol1j

21 күн бұрын

​@@LoupedelouNo matter how much money they receive it will never compensate the damage it has done to their lives and they need the cash now to replace their savings which they should be using to enjoy themselves. They lost livelihood houses and some a large number of family and friends so those GUILTY should NOT have any freedom or comfortable life whatsoever

@user-nx9or9do8q

10 күн бұрын

No !!! They need that money for PO bonuses ..

@Loupedelou

10 күн бұрын

@@user-bl8zw4ol1j that's how compensation is calculated though

Thank you channel 4 for your continuing coverage of this terrible scandal 👍

@coppershark1973

24 күн бұрын

Oh please go away.

@tazzie2shoos

20 күн бұрын

@@coppershark1973 isn't pretending nothing is happening and shutting people down part of the problem. 🙄🙄......

@marspp

19 күн бұрын

@@tazzie2shoosyeah but a certain demographic tend to vote for the party he also likes so we must let them do whatever they want... 😉

@kevone-eo6pq

17 күн бұрын

channel 4 are crooks too.

4:32 Well done on pushing those 2 pricks out the way to question her. You're right, you are doing your job, and doing it well 👏

@EthanZoid

25 күн бұрын

Who are they?

@123boat

25 күн бұрын

Ditto 👍

@TheLampini

25 күн бұрын

Probably the only time in her life the cow hasn't got her own way!

@Ground53

24 күн бұрын

Big man reporter, bullying people in the street

@BeardLAD

24 күн бұрын

@@Ground53 asking an evil being questions and holding ‘it’ & its ilk to account, is not bullying; and to suggest it is bullying, is nothing short of perverse & evil in itself.

I do commend channel four for keeping on producing pieces on this - and this particular journalist who clearly, rightly feels angry like everyone else. They have broken new aspects of the story during the enquiry rather than just being lazy and reporting the enquiry albeit this piece doesn’t bring anything new to the table, other than give everyone the heads up to pay attention re vennels testimony tomorrow. Well done channel 4.

@bendenisereedy7865

23 күн бұрын

None of this would have come to light without the persistence of Private Eye.

Deserved to go to prison for perjury.

On my computer screen next to this video is an advert for a Post Office credit card. I don't think I will apply.

@TheStevenWhiting

21 күн бұрын

Sign up. And when you've paid the first month off it will show successful. Then you're start getting messages from the post office that it needs to be paid. When you say you have and show proof, they'll claim its not what they see their end and that you're the only one with the issue. A joke but they've even been doing it recently with their stupid barcoded stamps. Charging people extra for "using fake stamps" then finding their scanning system is inaccurate so they've had to suspend the program. How many of those people charged have been paid back.

"I don't recall" The epitaph for the post office senior management

@amandacarter7740

22 күн бұрын

Haha spot on

Vennells must go to prison for this

Well done finally someone asked the question everyone wants to ask. Are they ready for prison.

Some of the dark hearts within the Post Office need to go to prison. Otherwise the injustice will never be made right.

For the post office management the timing could not be worse, the public are sick to death of sloppy/greedy/lying politicians & executives!

@peterhanlon8324

23 күн бұрын

-SNP malfeasance -Water companies polluting rivers and seas -Batley teacher still in hiding no support from head teacher, police or union -Cannot protect our borders -Woke BBC List goes on and on

"I hadn't seen any evidence up till this point." That's what happens when you close your eyes to the evidence before you, and you don't ask for additional evidence to look at.

Perhaps we should include the judges in these investigations. If the postmasters stole 10’s of thousands of pounds, where were the flash cars, the expensive holidays, the bloated bank accounts? Why didn’t anyone ask where the money went? If judges are complicit then that must of come from the top of Westminster, to preserve the brand that was ear marked for privatisation. So it’s share price would remain high. Horizon program in use 1999 Post master convictions 1999-2015 Postal services act 2011 Royal Mail group split in 2012 Royal Mail privatised 2013-2015 Vincent Cable knighted 2015 Alwen Lyon’s OBE 2018 Vennels CBE 2019

@dimsoneill

17 күн бұрын

I think you are onto something there. The Tory M.O at work again.....

What a horrible, conniving and dishonest person. No prison sentence is sufficient to pay for her lack of morals or ethics and vindictiveness toward honest and hard working people.

What I do not understand is how is it possible that the management of the post office could believe that so many post office branches were stealing money. Sure, I can understand a small number, one percent of them, if that, but surely alarm bells should have gone off when so many were being found. Are we still thinking that a machine, a computer, is infalable - or was the drive for profit so high that everything else is eclipsed by that need?

As well as the P.O. I hope the judge has apologised to this lady.

@lewismacdonald1516

25 күн бұрын

Those judges read out despicable things when sentencing these people, they also played their part, but that will be swiftly swept under the carpet, there is no regulator for the judiciary.

@barbs574

24 күн бұрын

Apologies are no longer enough. Prison is the poison

Apologies at this late stage are an insult and may lead people to believe that an apology now is merely spurious. What is even more vexing is that this is still dragging on. It's a further slap in the face for those wrongly accused and who had to suffer the indignities of job loss, bankruptcy, public ridicule, jail time and even loss of life. Shame on all of those who acted so horribly in this scandal.

Would love to hear a psychologist 's views on body language and avoidance/denial going on in these people's heads.

@floriaskite938

24 күн бұрын

I have asked 'the behaviour panel', hoping they do it.

@barbs574

24 күн бұрын

They need to be attached to a lie detector

Nothing is being learnt from inquiry if no one is actually accountable and going to jail. Laughable and an insult. Years of inquiries but ended up just another paper published

This poor woman was young, ill represented and very inexperienced. She's been through a terrible ordeal. I hope after all this she can rebuild her life and prosper. The post office management could do with a dose of their own medicine.

Proper journalism👏👏👏

Amazing that all the directors and lawyers involved all suffer from selective amnesia only when evidence is found against them. They are either lying or its not an act.

@charlesdale1462

23 күн бұрын

Legally briefed........

@eclectic_gamer

21 күн бұрын

must be havana syndrome

So sorry for the terrible pain this has caused. The Post Office has done a massive coverup with corruption, greed and dishonesty

These royal medals are a disgrace and should be scrapped

those judges and prosecutors who acted on "evidence" provided by a criminal organization without further scrutiny, should also face consequences.

Well done to that reporter. Make that woman feel totally ashamed. Thank you, Channel 4 for this coverage!

Horrendous what happened to these innocent people. Will those responsible be held to account?

Salaries must be clawed back.

We know why. Greed. Pure and simple GREED. Sociopaths fleecing as much as they can milk with no regard for the people wrongly charged. These people should be in jail!

"Excuse me, excuse me". What are you excusing? Unbelievable. Disgusting. No conscience to these evil people and their enablers.

God bless this poor lady. She deserves at least a million in compensation and Vennells should be sentenced to the worse jail punishment available.

Whats more disgusting is this was known years ago and nothing was done about it until they made a tv series about it.

Aren't they evil. Prison terms for them all please.

This woman should be receiving millions of pounds in compensation. It should be millions of pounds after any costs or anything of that nature.

The the Executive team and Board in prison. They can share cells with the politicians responsible also.

19. She was still a kid. Scarred for life. No amount of money will heal those wounds.

The truth here is the whole management team should be in jail, all complacent and no one spoke out when they could of. A joint enterprise of criminals...

There seems to be an outbreak of collective amnesia amongst these people.

The Post Office execs perverted the course of justice at the very least and committed perjury. They need to go to jail.

Send them down!

Never trust business management graduate degrees.

I don’t say this often - Hero journalist 👏👏👏

Another one with a bad memory, liars the lot of them.

The combined total number of years that every postmaster was sentenced to, should be evenly divided against the Executive committee members and they should serve that time.

Using comic sans - straight to jail!

@Ruth695

24 күн бұрын

I noticed that. Isn't that a Primary school font lol

@Haberdashery22

22 күн бұрын

It is! It suggests getting your message over in a fun and light-hearted way 😂😂😂

The establishment don't jail themselves - they never have done.

All these bosses should be in crown court and sent to prison for a long time

It's devastating that lady had to go to prison at 19, being falsely accused. I thinks she is showing remarkable strength by what she said, she's an inspiration to all people who have been unjustly wronged.

'I don't recall' I wonder how many times we are going to hear that?

@valeriecherylirving4048

22 күн бұрын

Fauci when questioned in the USA congress over the covid cover up .. said “ I don’t recall “ 72 times ! How’s that for a record .. Seems to be their playbook !

so , so , so , so , so , so, i do not recall , i do not remember , so so so so so , so ..... i can not remember .... she should be striped of her OBE not give it back ...... she is a coward .......

This is a serious mess

Send them down, take their money off them

Great work and fantastic reporting

Awesome reporter! Well done and keep up your good work. The cat has got these bullies and liars tongues. Cowards now hiding behind umbrellas when it’s not raining and face disguises.

No one at the post office at this time should have any honour - the OBE should be returned

He shouldn't have lifted up her umbrella. That's too aggressive.

Them folks who caused this terrible behaviour of putting a 19yr old in prison need sending down for law. Everyone involved Government down to the rats should be brought out of hiding. One disgraceful story after another. Can't believe folks or devils would act like this. This is the 20th Century not the 15th. Unbelievably disgraceful

Post Office gangsters will string this out just like the Grenfell Tower gangsters have done.

@simonheathcote4173

21 күн бұрын

Exactly

Can see evidence in jail

They ALL knew something at one point. They ALL had an opportunity to do the right thing, the just thing, but they ALL decided to ignore and cover it up.

Every single one of those dreadful senior executives - if found guilty - should give back every single penny of their bonuses. That would do for a start.

My love to you and everyone else who has had to deal with all the lies. The establishment will never allow you to get to the truth. What a sad world we live in but we must keep going just to fight the injustice.

I hope they ask Vennells if she is prepared for prison!!

Honourable people took their lives over Vennells, if she had and remorse left inside of her she would follow suit!

Everyone of the corrupt post office bosses and civil servants should be looking at 10 years prison each

Prison!!!

The government call a general election, and takes Vennells off the news. What does the government want to cover up???

@botticellirejectbotticelli2668

21 күн бұрын

Exactly this.

We need justice now

I hope justice prevails.... finally

Prison time looms!

It's not cross-examination, FFS, it's an enquiry. Only one side questioning. Amateurs...

That reporter following her 🤣🤣 legend

Everyone who has falsely been accused by the Post Office should know that those in charge of accusing the many innocent did so and with intent , and were using a known defective product.

Just the idea that these ‘untouchables’ might themselves feel that they could end up in jail … is great

Every one of the people who contributed to this conspiracy should be prosecuted and jailed. The Board should be under scrutiny for the pressures they themselves exerted

Sooo Sorry to this Lady. God Bless her! 😢🎉

It’s soo apparent the powers knew of the horizon blip yet continued to persecute the employees .what is going to happen to them surely the must get prison sentences . They’ve knowingly wrecked lives .

Lyons wants to keep her little trinket

Jail all involved start with Vennells