You can’t expect a traumatized person to be able to be “a brave ally”

@zivaray

2 ай бұрын

This!!!

@Whooshta

2 ай бұрын

100%

@debracurry612

2 ай бұрын

Well said!

@CloroxBleachCompany

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think Ariana Grande is a traumatized person but more of an opportunist. She does not want to talk about Dan Schneider shooting foot play scenes with her because she doesn’t want her brand to be associated with the abuse others are finally speaking out about. The problem is she has a big enough platform to get the ball rolling on accountability but she is choosing to leave others out to dry because she is set financially so this doesn’t NEED to be resolved for her. When Amanda Bynes gets blacklisted for speaking up everyone says “but Ariana worked with Dan too doing similar scenes and she wasn’t bothered by it so you’re probably exaggerating” so yes bigger celebrities have an impact even when they think they don’t.

@galfisher2499

2 ай бұрын

@@CloroxBleachCompany I’m glad to have gotten an insider’s perspective on this 🙄😒

Who remembers when Cory Feldman came on this show and tried to be a whistle blower for child abuse in Hollywood and Barbra Walters shut him down and diminished his claims live on national tv? I do. Have several seats everyone here on the view

@sarahlara8420

2 ай бұрын

And said he was trying to end an entire industry 🙄 stupid stupid moment for Barb

@leongardner710

2 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯 💯 💯 me too!

@jjeennnnnn

2 ай бұрын

Poor Corey. He was ignored and continues to be ignored.

@patriciabouchard5296

2 ай бұрын

I remember, that was wrong

@peachesandpoets

2 ай бұрын

What does that have to do with these women? And why didn't anybody else do something if they were so concerned? I'll tell you why. Because it was a different time and both audiences, the media, and adults in general were normalized into a culture that didn't care very much what happened behind closed doors. You say you remember it happening.. You weren't too bothered to keep watching the View. Should we blame you? Progress is a thing. People learn more and understand more and do better. Also, again, none of the women at the table are Barbara Walters. All that your moronic comment serves to do is deflect from a very important situation that is finally being addressed. You are adding nothing to that discussion, just trying to rage farm. And yes, I'm aware you're likely too pea brained to have read this far, hopefully people who do want to engage their frontal lobe will, and they'll think twice before deflecting from this topic.

Was this a joke? Why are they debating celebrities speaking out and not spending this time condemning the assaulters. WHAT IS THIS??

@bretth404

2 ай бұрын

These people live in a cloud so far and high above the rest of us that we simply just have nothing in common

@LucienWhite-fb5qk

2 ай бұрын

it's victim blaming is what it is

@unbothered5240

2 ай бұрын

I think that's the point. They're literally arguing Sarahs point.. there's no need to force public conversation when it's only the private talking points that will have any real impact on the victim's well-being. It's already a no brainer that no one will publicly support the assailant and those that do support...will do our silently. So forcing everyone to speak out is redundant.

@erictalbert4633

2 ай бұрын

You are so full of it. They happen to be debating if it’s fair or not to go public against sexual predators if you witness it as a child yourself. It’s a talk show they debate topics. Is this your first time hearing about a tv show called the “view?” It’s literally been on the air for almost 30 years! Of course they don’t stand for sexual assaulting minors or anyone!Stop gaslighting and trying to twist the topic for your political grandstanding.

@m.w.njoroge7438

2 ай бұрын

Amy, this happens a lot on this show. The View co-hosts get distracted by a tangential aspect of the main topic they brought up and never get around to the main topic. So sad when it's about a serious issue like child abuse in a workplace setting, in this case.🤷🏾‍♀️😐😑

Sunny’s take makes sense if you don’t understand the emotional burden of trauma at all.

@MISNM0

2 ай бұрын

I fucking love you for saying this.

@peterlee584

2 ай бұрын

So true!!

@MoveMountains10

2 ай бұрын

This is shocking since she LOVES to remind everybody that they sje prosecuted sex crimes for years

@DAN-lo7fz

2 ай бұрын

@@MoveMountains10. What does that have to do with trauma victims speaking out??? Prosecuting sex crimes isn’t in itself a traumatic experience. Jeez.

@missydonald6381

2 ай бұрын

@@MoveMountains10you sound dumb lmao

It's so clear that nobody was briefed adequately for this segment. Except maybe Alyssa. So sad.

@mariarosemarie

2 ай бұрын

I was going to comment the same. Amanda Bynes was getting dragged for not speaking out, which is wild. The abuse she endured and her issues she deals with daily...and she's getting harassed over not giving a statement on this? So messed up. But yeah, can't believe she wasn't part of this conversation. I think Sunny would rethink her position if she knew this full context.

@dannysaur17

2 ай бұрын

@@mariarosemarie 100% agree!

@Little-Dude

2 ай бұрын

It sounds like nobody even watched the documentary or even told the bare basics about it.

@mlynettepinky595

2 ай бұрын

They should have watched the documentary on ID Channel or Max Joy asking what did Arianna had to do with this🤦🏽‍♀️. You can tell they only saw clips or heard about it The adults who worked on the show were scared to and didn't speak up, so why do they think kids would They don't know what these kids had to go through When one of the mom's spoke up, about how Dan was acting, they fired her son Bryan Hearne from All That. So the abuse still went on by Dan and the 3 predators like Brian Peck.

@thulanemboyisa7667

2 ай бұрын

The topic only started to make sense to me when it got to Alyssah

Wow! Sunny doesn't seem to understand TRAUMA?

@SteadyruReady

27 күн бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing.

When Sara made the comment about looking back and processing things at the age you were at then, it jarred me. I had to shut off the video and process that for a while. That was deep!!! Love that lady ❤

@sheldoncole1151

2 ай бұрын

Yes ❤

@darnellwilliams1139

2 ай бұрын

Very deep and as a child who watched that network we are even trying to process it all. It’s a lot

@DeeDiamond2981

2 ай бұрын

Yeah as a child, u can be manipulated by adults. Til adulthood, and what the adults did was wrong; it will be tough to break your "idea" of a person.

They're conflating two different issues. They clearly didn't watch the doc.

Sunny isn’t getting it. This isn’t a matter of making a public statement. All of those kids were CHILDREN in the public eye and whether or not they witnessed or experienced abuse, it is not their obligation to speak on it bc the public demands it. The public has no true idea what they experienced. Sunny needs to take a seat. You can stand for what’s right but their voices are not owed to people who aren’t in their shoes.

@merissadoesstuff

2 ай бұрын

She claims to be an advocate for child abuse victims, but this just sours me on that notion. Frankly, I question if she had a traumatizing childhood. I did, and can say from experience that I would not be able to speak publicly on some things. With regards to Drake, I could tell that he was sometimes having to remind himself to breathe. Imagine if he had tried to speak out at the height of his mental issues or drug addiction. Bottom line is that we just don't know what the kids went through, what they remember and what they can currently cope with facing.

I agreed with Sara the most in this segment

@jaysand962

2 ай бұрын

No certain folk twisted the oath of skull and bone for all races and covered it up with not in front of the kids . 👁️

@1212CSmith

2 ай бұрын

Predators bank on folks remaining quiet. I do not agree with Sara.

@npguru

2 ай бұрын

Then you must also be a clueless, whyte woman because she contradicted herself, as well as making absolutely no sense.

@loganchugg6847

2 ай бұрын

Many such cases. She is the only reasonable one on this panel well and Alyssa. Everyone else is mean, hateful and aggressive

@RoSen344

2 ай бұрын

And Alyssa.

Sara and Alyssa are the only ones at that table that make any sense.

@Mandrake591

2 ай бұрын

I think they’re the only ones on the panel who do research, the rest just wing it and fall in to self righteous cliches.

@jillrb7638

2 ай бұрын

@@Mandrake591 I agree. Joy is 81 years old so I cut her some slack, she's been doing this for so long & is still a great moderator on Fridays. However, Anna and Sunny? Like were they just not listening during the meetings before the show? Good lord, it's ridiculous at times.

@matthewwood481

Ай бұрын

I agree.. outside of what Sara and Alyssa were saying the rest of this is very tone deaf and borderline ridiculous. Especially Sunny, she should understand the intricacy and complexity of this better than anyone at this table.

This would have been a much better segment if a child trauma and sexual abuse professional/expert was part of the panel. Some of the panel members’ opinions are uninformed.

@yankeegirl3380

Ай бұрын

I agree. We need people that are educated and trained in these situations.

Speaking up against wrongdoings is not easy on any level and the consequences can be huge. The powerful are always protected.

@shayshay7409

2 ай бұрын

Until the METOO movement

@Dickens58

2 ай бұрын

@@shayshay7409 I thought so too, but speaking up as an ally for women got me nowhere.

@kylesummers2462

2 ай бұрын

But there is power in numbers. If 90% of the stars of Nickelodeon came out and told the truth there’s no choice but to believe them and investigate…. duhhhhh When you leave one or two lone small voices out in the wild, their vices are swallowed by the wind. The only reason Harvey Weinstein went down was because everyone came out. Only reason bill Cosby went down was because everyone came out. The only reason r Kelly went down was because everyone came out… it’s very simple math. And it’s not that only the victims need to come out because yes it’s hard for them - but the friends they told, the production assistants who witnessed things, the costars who saw inappropriate behavior, the drivers who were taking them to the hotel. The amalgamation of people AROUND THE victims is what supports the story. Please stop with the keep quiet mentality. That’s why there are decades long track records of abuse.

It’s so embarrassing when they do these segments that it’s clear no one was briefed on, there job is for an hour a day, you can’t read up on what it is you’re talking about?

@BrianPatrickOMalley

2 ай бұрын

Good point! This is a big subject to give no briefing.

Sara, once again, the most empathetic person on the panel. It’s apparent she spends time thinking about what she will say, instead of ‘blurting’ out

@SomethingSomethingg

Ай бұрын

Well, I attribute this to the fact that she's an independent and therefore she actually uses her brain instead of having this ridiculous bias or very close-minded thinking.

5:55 Alyssa is right. The story of Ariana weighing in publicly will overshadow the whole story

Sarah is always the most reasonable and modern in her thinking out of this group...

@naylas3908

2 ай бұрын

She’s often extremely naive.

@lindiwengwevela524

2 ай бұрын

Not always, sometimes she can be a little tone deaf. I agree with her in this, though.

I find it really offputting that Sunny is demanding that children victims speak out now as adults because it's their duty for having a platform... when I remember Sunny only last year refusing to denounce Don Lemon for his verified abuse/harassment of women because Don was her friend. Her hypocrisy really grates.

@TY-zv5we

2 ай бұрын

I can't believe how tone deaf Sunny was in this segment. Simone Biles (and I'm sure many other gymnasts) didn't speak out about her experience with Nassar until a few years after he was exposed because she needed therapy and years to process it - according to Sunny does that mean she wasn't an ally when she didn't immediately speak out?

@naylas3908

2 ай бұрын

Sunny used to prosecute these crimes!

@naylas3908

2 ай бұрын

Don Lemon didn’t abuse or harrass women. He’s gay.

@mayelthiane6876

2 ай бұрын

@@naylas3908Sexuality has nothing to do with abusing and harassing women. Abuse and harassment is not limited to inappropriate sexual acts

I have to disagree with Sunny because while former employees and former actors like Jennette McCurdy, Alexa Nikolas and Drake Bell have told their stories and their experiences on Nickelodeon, I don’t think we should bully people into telling their stories and they should be allowed to tell their stories if and when they are comfortable and ready. However Nickelodeon deserves all the criticism they are getting.

Wow, they're so lost. They have no idea what they're talking about. (besides Sara and Alyssa)

You can’t tell Sunny anything. She thinks she knows everything.

@jaysand962

2 ай бұрын

Yeah when children are bred to be dumb and rated R before PG . We’ll see what good are the schools they attend .

I'm sorry but I disagree with Sunny Hostin here

@beatnickblanket

2 ай бұрын

That's because she's BEYOND wrong.

@galfisher2499

2 ай бұрын

@@beatnickblanketas usual.

@1212CSmith

2 ай бұрын

She's prosecuted predators and she knows their method of operation. They bank on the silence and fear of victims and those who witness the abuse.

@galfisher2499

2 ай бұрын

@@1212CSmith … and she’s also spoken to victims and she should know better. Forcing traumatized people, especially by guilting them into it, is not the way to go. Supporting the victims until they’re ready is how you’re supposed to do it.

@CJM2702

2 ай бұрын

@@1212CSmithSunny that u?

This was painful to watch. For the last 3 years I have worked as a victim advocate for young adults who are victims of rape and sexual assault - by definition - these are two different things. We are the experts in our own lives; no one else's. Demanding someone come forward as a victim or someone who witnessed the abuse is never the right thing to do. We drive our own busses. We cave take someone's consent away when it's convenient.

Sunny has a lot of judgment about what others "should" do.

@galfisher2499

2 ай бұрын

Her takes are always ridiculous. I wish they’d replace her.

@richardc8795

2 ай бұрын

It’s probably that Christian thing 😆

@lioneljohnson1825

2 ай бұрын

So anti catholic

@camara1194

2 ай бұрын

@@richardc8795her as a Christian? please.

@richardc8795

2 ай бұрын

@@camara1194 She is a christian. Hence all the judgement nonsense.

Why does Sonny always act like she knows what she's talking about?

@1212CSmith

2 ай бұрын

She knows what she's talking about.

@hardthyne2135

2 ай бұрын

Because she's a former prosecutor, reason why she knows what she's talking about.

@stephaniev83

2 ай бұрын

Then she should know not to victim shame individuals who might still be trying to process or traumatized what happened to them into a “you should speak out”. Not everyone works on the same timeline.

@lisalisa8882

2 ай бұрын

Because she's a former DA

@mykoniichistorychannel

2 ай бұрын

It’s her opinion, so she knows what she’s talking about.

I don’t think Sunny knew what the topic was about

@mercuryangel5632

2 ай бұрын

Umm, she prosecuted people who sexually abused others so I am pretty sure she knows more than you about this topic.

@Nat-lb8nu

2 ай бұрын

@@mercuryangel5632this wasn’t just an sexual abuse case, they are saying she didn’t know how THIS SPECIFIC topic.

@UrbanDecayLova247

2 ай бұрын

That has to be it cuz her, Joy and Ana’s opinions were all over the place 🤨 this isn’t about whistleblowing.

@sailorsister211

2 ай бұрын

I dont think no one in that table knew the topic was about expect for Sara and Alyssa. Questioning on why Ariana Grande is hot topic in this? Like didn't u even watch the documentary or saw clips of it

I disagree with Sunny as usual. Someone should not be forced to speak up especially a child.

@sheldoncole1151

2 ай бұрын

Right

@Joyjoyjoy4

2 ай бұрын

Shes not talking about current children.

@Smartkid2387

2 ай бұрын

So as a parent you would tell you son or daughter to remain silent if they are being molested?

@mykoniichistorychannel

2 ай бұрын

I get what she’s saying, it was just stated clunky.

@muslimsister5613

2 ай бұрын

I think she meant speaking up as the adults they are now

1. Trauma victims go through a lifelong healing journey. 2. Witnessing and experiencing as children are not the same. 3. I’m an adult who’s not yet healed of childhood trauma, but I always stand up. 4. No victim ever had to come out publicly. 5. Having a public persona does come with responsibility to speak out, but with limits stated above. 6. We can’t ever bully victims to speak out about their own trauma.

@MarCapa-ed5uv

2 ай бұрын

I agree

Sara is always so levelheaded

Sunny Hostin I don't think if people feel okay or don't want to talk about publicly what happened then they shouldn't have to

@abby4027

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. She isn’t wrong that people CAN speak out if they a platform which incites change. However, I don’t believe you should be obligated to.

A bit frustrating to hear Sara making and everyone at the table not understanding the point she was making.

@ardeanholt2319

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean everyone at the table Alyssa understood it the others did not

Joy: "What does Ariana Grande have to do with this" LOL. Clearly no one did their homework for this segment, except for maybe Alyssa.

Sorry Anna, Ashley Judd did not start "Me Too" movement. It was Tarana Burke. She claimed it like it was her idea. Co-oping someone else's activism.

@hellisotherpeople929

2 ай бұрын

It was Rose McGowen that spoke up first when Harvey W. raped her in the 90s and no one believed her not even Melissa Malono when they worked on Charmes that's why she hates her.

Sunny had ZERO idea of what she was talking about!!!

Sunny's self entitlement showing again by her demanding that people do something they arent ready to do.

@ebonywagner1682

2 ай бұрын

Man she sounds stupid

@KarenBitzer-fj2uh

2 ай бұрын

This! Sometimes people are not ready to take a stand for whatever reason. Maybe they haven't processed what happened, at all or fully. Maybe they honestly didn't know... Maybe they have a lot to lose like a job, their livelihood or their family's livelihood... While that last one may not be or seem relevant to some, it is pretty impactful. Every action has a consequence, even good ones. And that all has to be weighed when speaking out. Yes, doing good and being a good ally is most important, but before speaking out or weighing in, you must process fully and honestly, make sure you are in a position to do so.

@devondivine1083

2 ай бұрын

but, not speaking allows for something to KEEP happening.. .at some point you become a Coward.

@shayshay7409

2 ай бұрын

​@@devondivine1083 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽

@1212CSmith

2 ай бұрын

Predators bank on the silence of victims and the silence of those who know about predatory acts.

I agreed the most with Sara Haines in this segment

@bebesomething

2 ай бұрын

Most people agree with Sara.

Felt bad for what the former child stars went through during their time on Nickelodeon. I grew up on those shows as a 90s kid. Hopefully they'll find peace in their lives.

Sunny, please refrain from feeling entitled to this matter. Trauma runs deep, especially when experienced as a child at the hands of adults who were supposed to protect them. Let go of that entitlement, Sunny.

@naylas3908

2 ай бұрын

Get off your high horse. She used to prosecute these crimes. She’s asking witnesses to speak up.

@FreeCandy979

2 ай бұрын

@naylas3908, as a prosecutor, she should have been clearer in her communication, but unfortunately, she failed to make a distinction, which came across as victim-blaming. I'm aware of her background, and the discussion revolved around victims of abuse by adults and the importance of them speaking up when they are ready. She asserted that remaining silent is tantamount to complicity. However, despite her legal training, her words echoed a sentiment suggesting that young people dealing with trauma should simply move on and speak out as adults.

Would it kill Joy and Whoopi to do some kind of research on the non-political topics they discuss on the show? "What does Ariana Grande have to do with this?" 🤦‍♀️

@sheldoncole1151

2 ай бұрын

Lol right

@gabelogan5877

2 ай бұрын

That’s the producer’s job. And the fact is some of these hot topics aren’t being prepped until hours before camera time.

@A.K.M.A.J.

2 ай бұрын

I actually appreciated the question because I didn't know the connection either

@JWilson-up2eu

2 ай бұрын

Because Ariana was at Nickleodeon during these times. She knows, she remained quiet to have her career.

@melody2378

2 ай бұрын

@@JWilson-up2euor have you ever thought that it’s her trauma and if she’s not ready or doesn’t want to share it that’s completely up to her. peoples traumas aren’t yall entertainment

I think people are forgetting that in the 80’s and 90’s it was a different time. Sunny talking about speaking up? To who? Who would listen? Not even the news would cover the take down of powerful people and companies in those days. Like guy be real please.

No one can or should tell your story. Or say "you should "

@MISNM0

2 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❣

@MarCapa-ed5uv

2 ай бұрын

EXACTLY

When Sunny doesn’t understand something she then just blames the person.

Victims of abuse are targeted when they’re at their most vulnerable and powerless to protect themselves. To suggest that they should come out and speak of their abuse, is to suggest they come out and voluntarily put themselves in another vulnerable position. Not everyone can do that. That’s why it’s considered courageous when a person does, even if it’s decades after.

Ana Navarro asking this is not Drake the rapper is it 😂🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

@mikedavis8008

2 ай бұрын

No it's someone with actual talent

Doesn’t Sunny bully Alyssa all the time lol

@sheldoncole1151

2 ай бұрын

I didn't see any bullying

@rachelmartin5187

2 ай бұрын

Not on this one, but for the most part, yeah. Joy and Anna do to tbh. The only people that seem to treat her with any kind of respect are Whoopi and Sara.

I feel like no matter what Ariana, Josh Peck or any other big star that hasn’t come forward says people will come for their heads. If they say they were abused they’ll be blamed for taking the attention away from other victims. If they say they weren’t abused they’ll be accused of covering for the abusers or invalidating other victims. It’s like Sara said “damned if they do,damned if they don’t.”

@javiruiz8365

2 ай бұрын

Well Josh was making fun of the situation!

@javiruiz8365

2 ай бұрын

Josh was making fun of Drake! 🤷‍♂️

Notice how the panelists completely went off topic and refuse to discuss the Drake Bell case. James Marsden, the cast of Growing Pains and Boy Meets World, and other famous celebrities wrote letters of support to get lenient sentence for this pedophile. These were grown adults. Not children.

@TheModelpreneurCoach

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

"I don't think you should be bullied to speak out" isn't that what you did to Kate Middleton...

Hey Sonny. You don’t know what it’s like to be abused or been traumatized so sit down. If you have been victimized you wouldn’t be so high on yourself. When you are in it you are trying to survive and being MADE to talk may retraumatize you. Victims need their own way of healing. Victims are terrified. You don’t owe anyone anything when you are trying to survive and move on. Get off your high horse Sonny. You don’t know what they are going through.

It is painfully obvious most of them did not watch this documentary

Sunny is 100% WRONG. Kids should not be expected to announce to the public information about sexual abuse even if they are adults later on. Especially not the same kids that could also be victims of sexual abuse from the same person. So disappointed in Sunny.

Sunny is her usual sanctimonious self. She has no idea what these people went through as children.

No one owes us an explanation. It would be nice for them to support each other bcuz they are the ones who actively went thru it, but it doesnt need to be done on the world stage. I know people get deeply invested in this stuff, but these were shows we watched while those kids were living thru the trauma. You cant expect everyone to be ready, if ever, to speak on their trauma just because society is demanding it. This documentary and situation is probably retraumatizing some of them. Look at the adults and parents who were complacent in their childrens trauma.

Sunny comes across as uncaring and sanctimonious in this. *Nobody* is obligated to speak out on anything publicly, just to make others feel good. These things happened when they were kids, which by witnessing it made them victims too.

Its extremely clear that Sonny has never experienced trauma for her to be so flippant about people speaking about theirs. At least I didn't have to hear her say the work Catholic in this segment. How many syllables does she think is in the word?

My abuser and abuse was real. I lived it. I'm a nobody. I am survivor. I am almost 60 years old and still struggling with it. Now, I am using this to write. I will no longer be silent.

These women are so clueless on the topics there supposed to be discussing. Nobody does research on topics there given whatsoever. Sunny is so entitled, Ana & joy are so lost, Sara & Alyssa were only ones that looked like they know somewhat of what they are talking about, & Whoopi if she were they would be clueless too.

One common denominator that wasn’t mentioned is Dan Schneider. He worked directly with everyone mentioned in this video, Drake, Josh, Ariana. As well as Jeanette McCurdy, Amanda Bynes and those featured in the Quiet on Set doc. They make it seem like Ariana is just a Nick star who got famous but she worked directly with the man who is the common denominator with all these actors.

I’m 31 , just this year I told my story to my friend about his dad. (step dad) Hearing Drake speak hit a part of me. Almost similar story , I was asleep and woke up to someone doing something to me and I just froze and stayed quiet Everyone should speak when they are ready.

If you see something, say something. If you are the victim, you do what you need to survive. It's disgusting what I just saw Sunny say. Not everyone has the strength to do it. They just want to get through life. What she said is bullying towards victims. Anyone, including me, as a victim shouldn't be pressured to talk about their experiences. Took me a lifetime to speak, yet still, family doesn't know. The shame is real. Some can find the strength, others struggle with mental health issues until the day they die. Some by their own hands. Can't believe I just saw this. Love the show, but I can never watch again knowing Joy's and Sunnys views on this. I can never respect them after this. Gross.

Thank God for Sarah. Once again Sunny is so disconnected.

These women are in no position to lecture about what's "right" when they're doing the bidding of their ABC bosses by being silent on other issues

I get what Sunny is saying but she's wrong there. Trauma is personal. People can CHOOSE to be public but it's not an OBLIGATION.

I am a rape survivor and wouldn't want ANYONE to harrass me about "coming out". I do that when I'm comfortable with the circumstances. Sunny needs to take it down a notch.

@jarvismane6700

2 ай бұрын

You’re not a survivor of anything. If you were, you wouldn’t be supporting this predator. He groomed a 12 year old girl by sending explicit messages to her, which both him and his attorney admitted to. Then he was found guilty of Felony Child Endangerment. Guess you didn’t know about any of that, huh? Or are you gonna be one of the other predators and make excuses for his behavior? Because he admitted to it. He didn’t make excuses so it’s crazy to see so many others doing it for him. Lot of closet predators out here waiting for their time.

@joscar062

Ай бұрын

​@@jarvismane6700 He pled guilty with responding to the text messages, as soon as he found out about her age he avoided contact and didn't exchange explicit pictures or harmed anyone And how are you going to speak on her experience when you can't even get your facts straight?

I wholeheartedly disagree with Sunny. Don't tell people what to do or how to act in a situation. Good if you have a public platform and you use it to speak up! But not everyone feels comfortable having that spotlight on them

This show famously SHAMED Cory Feldman when he spoke up on this very topic about some of the same ppl! Why are they so weird when it comes to this issue?!?!

Sunny, wtf

@hannahwalmer1124

2 ай бұрын

Lmao.

THEY RUINED AMANDA BYNES LIFE

@rachelmartin5187

2 ай бұрын

They really did smh. My heart breaks when I see photos of her now. 💔

I had the biggest chuckle when Sunny mentioned standing up to racist comments when she is the most racist woman on cable tv.

I don't think you should demand any of the victims to speak up, it's a different process for everyone. I do think you should SHAME all the adults involved in the abuse and the enablers and the ones that saw everything and did nothing!! That was the documentary is all about! They totally lost the biggest problem with the HOLLYWOOD industry in this segment! 🤐😒😒

People have to handle things at their own pace.

Sunny's arrogance in this segment left me speechless. You're talking about kids in a very abusive enviorment and you expect them to be "whistle-blowers". I cannot believe someone can be dense enough to demand victims to speak up when they're dealing with the fallout of what happened to them. And we do not know who was a victim and who was a witness. What Sunny did here was the revictimization of those kids and the prime example of virtue signaling. Shame on her.

Woah, Sunny victim shaming and re-abusing victims.

They clearly don't understand how hard the situation is for the victims

@NellieKAdaba

2 ай бұрын

True

I would love to hear them talk about how their employer then hired the person who admitted and served time for sexual assault after he was released from prison.

That was a wasted segment of confusion and misunderstanding

Ana and Sara are right. Sunny is as close minded as usual. People heal in their own way and in their own time. You cannot force anyone to speak if they are not ready.

I think the ladies only like certain kind of whistle blowers.

In agreement with Sara. Unless we experienced what others experienced we cannot know.

People shouldn’t be forced to relive their trauma.

I like Alyssa comment “ would you like me to speak out to help ?”

well said Alyssa

Ana Navarro at the end of the segment "they sound like the catholic church" 😂🤦🤦🤦‍♂️

Sara is 100% right! Just because you have it doesn’t mean you need to take the line lightly away from others you can support the victim in other ways that doesn’t diminish their story. Some of the big ones mentioned would have taken the light away from drake like Ariana or even Josh. You can use your platform for good but also know that a time and place is needed as Sonny said “heavy is the head that wears the crown”

When we say someone’s brave for speaking out, we mean it. It takes so much courage and strength. It is not easy. Trauma runs deep. Most things go unreported. The shame, the guilt for not saying sooner or just wishing if we ignore it, it never happened. Sara is open about her depression, so that’s why she gets it.

Totally agree with and Alyssa on this one. Why would you push someone who have already been traumatized into potential more trauma? It should totally be up to them as to whether they feel they are able to and want to.

Thank God for Sara and Alyssa during this segment. The ignorance of the reality of trauma and the lack of empathy amongst the other three panelists is deeply disappointing.

Our beautiful future Queen Kate has been forced to admit that she's suffering with Cancer. Shame on _all of you_ who engaged in wild conspiracies that pushed her into having to share this highly personal information before she was ready. Sunny has been particularly disgusting while speculating on a very private, difficult & family matter. Get well soon YRH! 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

It would be great if these women actually looked into the topic they’re talking about before they came on national tv to lecture us all about things…

Everything about all the shows growing up on. I don’t know what those poor kids went through. Now that these creators getting ruined. Heck I can’t even watch those anymore.

For everyone who is saying Sunny knows what she is talking about because she is a former federal prosecutor, please understand that unless Sunny has been sexualized abused as a child star she DOES NOT know what she is talking about. Even as a ADA or DA the victims in a case testifying to a grand jury then during a trial is not in the same category as a child star or someone STILL working in the entertainment business who comes forward to tell the world their trauma that may or may not have been addressed. This allows that person to be a punching bag for anyone to comment their thoughts on very damaging, personal trauma. Their name moving forward will have some form of attachment to it when people Google them. Then there is the nastiness of the internet and how they treat victims of any form of abuse. Unless during her time as a prosecutor she worked cases on a regular or semi-regular basis, with former child actors or celebrities that are recognizable in the street at the time she was working with she does not know what she is talking about.

Staying quiet is the worst thing you can do.

@NellieKAdaba

2 ай бұрын

I agree.

No Sunny

It’s really sad that such a serious topic was discussed by people who seem to not have watched the 4 part series prior to the discussion. They really came to class without doing the reading and then improvised.

I think Sunny’s referring to the adults on Nickelodeon should be speaking out as ally’s when they saw it happen

@MISNM0

2 ай бұрын

If so, then yes

The lack of emotional intelligence here is honestly concerning. It's evident that Sarah & Alyssa are the only ones who have gone to therapy.

The show needs to do a better job briefing the hosts ahead of time if they’re going to speak on such a traumatic story. This was so aggravating to watch

Sunny is wrong!!!! Sometimes it takes years to speak up. Sometimes never. Those of us who have been there.....know.

Ally of what?! Sexual trauma? Sunny’s opinion makes no sense - we have no idea who was abused and who wasn’t so to even say someone like Ariana should come out is ridiculous and VERY classless.

Sunny is crazy on this one. You have no clue what someone who has witnessed something as a child has gone through. You don't know if they themselves have experienced it or are embarrassed about it. They have to work through it in their own time. Don't let someone who hasn't walked in your shoes in any way tell you how to overcome your trauma.