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@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd

Ай бұрын

Are you guys planning on making a compilation of the post Caesar Civil Wars?

@death-istic9586

Ай бұрын

Yo

@ghtermzo

Ай бұрын

Make video about Battle of Forbie, crusaders and ayyubids. If not maybe consuder just making youtube short please ❤

Loved this, could you do a similar video on other religions such as the Egyptian one?

@KingsandGenerals

Ай бұрын

At some point

@TheHomelessDreamer

Ай бұрын

​@@KingsandGeneralsAzura bless you!

@SafavidAfsharid3197

Ай бұрын

​@@KingsandGeneralsany upcoming video on india? Like on Mughals, perhaps a video explaining relationship between Mughals and Ottomans?

@KingsandGenerals

Ай бұрын

@@SafavidAfsharid3197 added to the list. Working on the Nader Shah series.

@andreray2784

Ай бұрын

And ancient Ethiopia and surrounding area please 🙏

Thanks for your hard work KnG! love these 1h+ videos!

Great video as always. As I understand it, Christianity initially spread among the poor and the slaves and particularly women and then the rich . The "middle class" of the Roman Empire adopted Christianity last. Also, Christianity first spread among Roman cities and particularly the larger ones along the Mediterranean coast. This can be attributed to the fact that the Apostles sought to gain as many converts as quickly as possible. This meant that they and their followers traveld across the trading routes by sea to the major cities where they could both find large populations who disproportionally spoke either Greek or Latin. Many more people in the cities or their close ancestors had migrated to their cities and were therefore more often detatched from the religions of their ethnic origin. More people in the cities were ethnically mixed and for that reason as well had less clear cut affinity to particular ethnically based religions. Christianity preached equality under God in the life hereafter and therefore attracted poor and a great number of slaves and women. As mentioned in the documentary, Christianity initially required far less expenses since it had no real temples and no effective taxation system. Christianity often had female congregation leaders. In essence early Christianity was a religion of the dispossessed, the rejected, the alienated, rootless and segregated. In the early Christian congregations, both poor,rich. slaves and women could all sit together, eat and have sermons. Many of the rich got attracted to Christianity through the slaves in their households and these rich quite early on became leaders of their congregations. As the rich started to dominate Christian leadership, that religion finally started to gain political power. As it eventually became clear that the Roman Empire was waning with decreasing wealth, invasions from various nomadic people, civil war, plague and poverty, Cirstianity as a religion of salvation from doom must have attracted lots of people. Only when Christianity started to become mainstream, was forcefully backed by the state, the political and intellectual elite, did Christianity spread out into the countryside and established intself among the ordinary peasants, artisans and small merchants.

@user-pp6fx7si4g

12 күн бұрын

True enough, but when it comes to other peoples, it was mostly by the sword. For example look at the Franks and Saxons: Only by the sword and after a thirty year war, did the Christianisation of the Saxons finally get seriously started. It was very simple: Become Christian or die.

@thabomuso2575

12 күн бұрын

Yes I completely agree. The spread of Christianity since it became a state religion of both Roman Empires was largely done by the sword and alliances with the local ruling elites. And that trend intensifiedacross the world at least until the 17th century. The best example of all being the spread of Christianity in South America, accompanied with large scale enslavement, conquests and genocide by the Spanish and Portugese empires. Couldn't agree with you more.@@user-pp6fx7si4g

This was a fantastic video. It went far more into minute detail than I expected. Great job!

You're delightful and your episodes on the religious and social aspects of the world are sensationally done. Keep it up! 👐🏼

What a great video. I wasn't expecting the story to start from the big bang but it's such a thorough video. Fantastic work.

Excellent work as always

Another amazing longform video; keep up the great work, K&G!

I thought there would be more mention of Sol Invictus and Mithras and the trend towards all powerful solo gods in the 200s. Anyway, great video!

I am extremely grateful for your work, this channel is a true gem. Thank you SO much!

Another IMPORTANT reason why Christianity expanded is that it did not require animal sacrifices. It’s not mentioned in the video. A huge pro for the populace, specially the poor ones. Christian rituals are “free”.

@xo-1320

Ай бұрын

Roman Peasant: Lets see I can sacrifice my prized Bull to the God Jupiter or I can go to this mass for this God Jesus whose only required sacrifice is to praise him in a mass with his follow follwers and partake in a bit of bread and wine... yeah I am going with this Jesus.

@michaelhorn6029

Ай бұрын

At many festivals the sarifics provided food for a public feast.

@sonqasawa2622

Ай бұрын

The Hebrews came up with the concept of "The Messiah", which was meant to end all human and animal sacrifices. But the Christians hijacked this concept and made it their own.

@Ccdddttt

Ай бұрын

It was replaced with a 10% tax that still exists today, it’s called tithes.

@KennethKelley-ni1hg

Ай бұрын

Except for those they didn't like from the start with Hypatia it cost them, their lives. Free? Get real😅. Nothing more costly than the mind-rape of any god ya do.

A one hour long Kings and Generals video. I guess everything can wait now BECAUSE I'M BUSY!

@Jean_Jacques148

Ай бұрын

Guys pls make a series on the Haitian revolution

Fascinating and well made as always. The long format is great too. One friendly suggestion though, the audio clip of a crowd of people shouting that played frequently throughout was distracting and seemed out of place. It also made the narrator hard to hear. I personally feel that it detracted rather than added to the video. Just my opinion.

@truthseeker-nv6ny

Ай бұрын

I feel like the sound of the crowds makes the video more realistic. To each their own I guess

I enjoyed this and learnt a lot. Thank you K&G

Thanks for the video it was very interesting

Please make a video like this on the Persian gods before Cyrus the Great it is so confusing to follow, however your videos make so much so easy to understand ❤

@chalinofalcone871

Ай бұрын

The father of [JudeoChristianIslamo] monotheism... huh? I second this. Until reading this, I never even wondered what was before Cyrus. Kudos.

@chalinofalcone871

Ай бұрын

""... its striking resemblance to the 'Theogony' of the Greek poet Hesiod. There the Earth (Gaia) gives birth to Heaven (Uranos); then Uranos and Gaia together become the parents of Kronos and the Titans. Uranos hates his children and seeks to prevent their birth, but Kronos, incited by Gaia, emasculates his father with a sickle, and out of the blood which flows comes forth the Erinyes (Furies), the Giants, and the Melian nymphs, while Aphrodite is born from the foam what's arises when the severed member falls into the sea. Kronos and his wife Rhea then beget the Olympian gods, foremost among whom is Zeus. Kronos swallows all his children except Zeus, who is saved by the substitution of a stone which Kronos swallows instead of him. Zeus, on growing to manhood, forces Kronos to spit out the gods whom he has swallowed, and the stone, which comes out first, is set up as a cult-object at Pytho (Delphi). The poem ends with the Battle of the Gods and Titans and the final victory of the Olympians. Hesiod's sequence Uranus-Kronos-Zeus is matched in the hittite version by the sequence: Anu (Sumerian 'an'= heaven)- Kumarbi, father of the gods,- Weather-god, though Alalu in the Hittite version represent a still older generation unknown to Hesiod. The emasculation of the Sky-god occurs in both myths, though the motif of the swallowing and spitting out seems to have become attached to a different incident. In the broken part of the tablet there is some reference to Kumarbi eating and to a stone which may possibly correspond to the Pythian 'omphalos' of Hesiod's version; & it is probable that the Hittite myth ends with the victory of the Weather-god. These points of resemblance are enough to establish a strong probability that both versions derive ultimately from the same Hurrian myth. The 'Song of Ullikummi'..."" [The Hittites, O. R. Gurney, 1966, Ch. VIII. LITERATURE; §. Myths, Legends, & Romance, p. 190-191]

You're videos are so helpful and engaging! I'm working on a fantasy novel that draws inspiration from ancient Roman, the Roman Republic and antiquity rather than a feudal society and medieval times. I'm working on creating the religions of the world at the moment so this is perfect timing. Though I'm drawing more inspiration from the cannanites and Babylonia gods and from eastern religions but this still will be interesting and potentially useful

I found this to be fascinating and genuinely interesting, but it is all called into question with the dive into Christmas and Saturnalia. Not only does Christianity have independent basis for Christmas in December, Saturnalia and Christmas don't really overlap. This isn't to point out the chronological discrepencies, or the fact that these connections are largely superficial. Germanic Heathenry literally calls that season "Jol" as in "Jolly", and have a feast somewhat proximate to Winter Solstice. Ermagerd, I bet Christmas Trees were based off the Irminsul chopped down by St BoNiFeR. /s (They were not, Christmas trees weren't a thing until the 16th century ce)

@christianwalton7080

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I really think they mishandled a good portion of the Christian part of their video, with the Christmas example being a prime example. Saying "Christians just co-opted pagan celebrations" is really surface level and I'd argue a-historical since a lot of early Christians were very interested in separating themselves from pagan practice; alongside using the Gospel of Luke's chronology alongside the Hebraic calendar to conclude for somewhere between late December and early January (depending on if you were using the Julian or the later Gregorian calendar).

@maxanderson9293

Ай бұрын

​@@christianwalton7080 but they didn't a lot of things Christianity did is adopted from Paganism

@christopherbravo1813

Ай бұрын

@@maxanderson9293 name them.

@toddlund

Ай бұрын

i was coming comment this, thank you

@truthseeker-nv6ny

Ай бұрын

​@@christopherbravo1813like the concept of trinity for example. Ancient Roman religion already had a trinitarian concept of the father son which Christianity adopted

Good to see the old intro back!!!❤❤❤

A great video! Lot of important and useful information. Still, I figured there would be some mention of the mysterious origins of Janus, the examples of non-Greek fusion of polytheism (i.e Sulis and Minerva), or the rise of monolatrism with Sol Invictus

Part about Christmas coming from Saturnalia is wrong. Religion for Breakfast explains it all very well. It would be awesome if yall worked with him since both your channels are my favorites

@thomaswillard6267

Ай бұрын

Dan McClellan also has several pieces explaining Christianity's independent inspirations for Christmas.

Can you make a video about legends featuring brothers founding new nations/cities in the ancient world? Like Hengist and Horsa, Romulus and Remus, etc? There are several more examples, but i cant remember them now. Similar legends existed all over europe. Would be an interesting topic.

Thank you! this has been very helpful, have you any plans of making a documentary on the cult of minerva? I am very interested in the day to day happening at the temple and how it fitted in the roman government.

The Romans weren't big on mythology or stories like the Greeks (unless there was a moral in them). But they were big on superstition, and this part should have been emphasized more: The Romans had false-positive tests on EVERYTHING. They were obsessed with knowing and anticipating the future, and everything in nature had predictive power. They would read tea leaves, chicken bones, animal entrails, water droplets, bird flight patterns (or any animal behavior really), eclipses and unusual weather phenomenon -- everything had meaning to it if you paid the right auger to explain/interpret/decipher it for you. Even animal sacrifices had predictive powers, depending on how the sacrifice was performed. Roman armies were so superstitious that when they got within scouting distance of the enemy they would release a bird in the sky and which direction it flew spelled success or doom in battle. If the sign was good, they'd engage the enemy. If the sign was bad, they would retreat for the day. Sometimes they'd retreat for several days because the bird kept giving bad omens.

The Romans' had a fairly narrow idea of what constituted a "proper" religion and were highly intolerant of any that did not fit these ideas. These included religions that practised human sacrifice and any "new" cult that they considered to be a superstitio. So the Druidic cult within Celtic religion was savagely repressed and ultimately wiped out by the Romans. There were also the periodic outbreaks of Bacchanalian cults, which were subjected to savage persecutions in the Second Century BC on the grounds they were "impious" and a threat to the Roman state. Cults that were more or less like those of the Romans were tolerated, though sometimes foreign cults were periodically expelled from Rome itself or placed under restrictions. Christianity fell into the category of superstitio on the grounds that it was a "novel cult", since for the Romans the more ancient a religion was the more legitimacy it had. It was for this reason that Christian apologists stressed the Jewish origins of their faith, since Judaism was tolerated by Rome on the grounds of its antiquity, despite its odd monotheism. What really brought Christianity undone though was not just its novelty (since the Romans generally didn't buy the Christians' argument about the Jewish origin of their sect) but its refusal to practice sacrifices for the good of the Empire. Ancient religion was generally based on orthopraxis rather than orthodoxy. In other words, what you believed didn't matter to others as much as what you did in the practice of your beliefs. Regardless of what you believed, if you sacrificed or made other offerings for the health of the Emperor and the safety of the Empire, the Romans left you alone. The fact that Christians, or at least the more zealous ones, refused to do this was the main thing that brought down the wrath of the Empire on Christianity, though active persecution was only intermittent and patchy. Judaism was not actually persecuted by the Romans. As noted above, it was generally respected and tolerated as an ancient faith and therefore a religio licitia. What was not tolerated was political insurrection against Rome, which the Jews engaged in vigorously on several occasions. The Romans crushed these rebellions with great force both in 66-70 AD and again in 132-136 AD. By the time of this second major uprising the Romans realised that much of the political resistance to Roman rule by the Jews was religiously inspired and their razing of the Temple and depopulation and destruction of Jerusalem was in response to this recognition, but the Romans never made Judaism illegal or persecuted it the way they did with the Bachannals, the Christians or the Manichaeans. The idea that the Romans were totally tolerant when it came to religion is a myth perpetuated since the Enlightenment. They tolerated faiths sufficiently like their own or which were sufficiently ancient, but were savagely intolerant to faiths that did not fall into these parameters. That included Christianity but it did not include Judaism. PS: The specific offense for which the Roman government executed Christians was the Christian refusal to sacrifice to or even burn incense to the "genius" or soul of the Roman emperor. Pagan Romans considered this ritual an oath of allegiance; Christians considered it blasphemy. But Christian apologists who wrote in Latin (except Tertullian) were at pains to make clear that they indeed prayed for the health and success of the emperor but could not sacrifice to him. In Greek, the entire New Testament, except the Book of Revelations (Apocalypse), is colored by the Christian defense against Roman charges of disloyalty. A further detail: Christian anti-Semitism probably began in response to an act of the Jewish (Sanhedrin) Council of Jamnia (Yavnia?) in about 77 A.D. There the Sanhedrin declared that Christians were not a Jewish sect and so not part of the "religio licita" which was the Roman legal basis for Roman tolerance. Once the Sanhedrin (recognized by the Romans) authoritatively declared that Christians were not 'Jewish,' the Christian refusal to deify the emperor could not be legally tolerated (as it was for the Jews). Then the Roman persecution began in earnest (Nero's persecution was a one-time event limited to the city of Rome).

There were many celebratory days in ancient Rome, including probably the most famous one, the Saturnalia, a predecessor of Christmas, the ancient Roman festival of Saturn in December, which was a period of general merrymaking, gift-giving, feasting, and letting the slaves be masters for a day. Then there were rather bloody feast days, such as the Equus October, the October Horse. Two-horse chariot races (bigae) were held in the Campus Martius, the area of Rome named for Mars, after which the right-hand horse of the winning team was transfixed by a spear, then sacrificed. The horse's head (caput) and tail (cauda) were cut off and used separately in the two subsequent parts of the ceremonies: two neighborhoods staged a fight for the right to display the head, and the freshly bloodied cauda was carried to the Regia for sprinkling the sacred hearth of Rome tended by the Vestal Virgins. But perhaps one festival stands out among the rest because of its spurious association with a modern celebration of love. Lupercalia The festival of Lupercalia was observed in the city of Rome between 13-15 February to avert evil spirits and purify the city, releasing health and fertility. Lupercalia was also called dies Februatus, after the instruments of purification called februa, which gave February (Februarius) its name. The name Lupercalia was believed in antiquity to evince some connection with the Ancient Greek festival of the Arcadian Lycaia, a wolf festival (Greek: λύκος, lýkos; Latin: lupus), and the worship of Lycaean Pan, assumed to be a Greek equivalent to Faunus. According to ancient narratives, there was a cult image of "the Lycaean god, whom the Greeks call Pan and the Romans Lupercus," described as nude, save for a goatskin girdle. It stood in the Lupercal, the cave where tradition held that Romulus and Remus were suckled by the she-wolf (Lupa). The cave lay at the foot of the Palatine Hill, on which Romulus was thought to have founded Rome. Each Lupercalia began with the sacrifice by the priests known as the Luperci (”brothers of the wolf”) of goats and a dog, after which two of the Luperci were led to the altar, their foreheads were touched with a bloody knife, and the blood was wiped off with wool dipped in milk; the ritual required that the two young men laugh. The sacrificial feast followed, after which the Luperci cut thongs (known as februa) from the flayed skin of the animals, and ran with these, naked or near-naked, along the old Palatine boundary, in an anticlockwise direction around the hill. In Plutarch's description of the Lupercalia, written during the early Empire, ...many of the noble youths and of the magistrates run up and down through the city naked, for sport and laughter striking those they meet with shaggy thongs. And many women of rank also purposely get in their way, and like children at school present their hands to be struck, believing that the pregnant will thus be helped in delivery, and the barren to pregnancy. Plutarch, Life of Caesar. One interesting historical event took place during the festival. The story of Caesar being offered a crown is recorded by Plutarch, who explains (in chapter 61 of his life of Caesar) that Caesar was offered a crown several times by Marcus Antonius (Shakespeare's Antony), who was one of the runners at the Lupercalia in 44BC. Now, what about the connection between Lupercalia and Valentine’s Day? The coincidence of the calendar has led to frequent speculation that the Lupercalia festival is one of the earliest ancestors of Valentine’s Day. The ancient festival’s association with fertility rituals has only added to that idea. But in fact, the relationship between Lupercalia and Valentine’s Day remains unclear - and some historians argue that there is no relationship at all. Fanciful claims have grown around the celebration, such as that of Alban Butler in “The Lives of the Fathers, Martyrs and Other Principal Saints ("Butler's Lives"),” where he writes of a practice during Lupercalia in which men and women would place their names in jars and the names would be drawn to create pairings, which was the start of the ritual of exchanging Valentine’s Day love notes. However, there is no evidence linking Valentine’s Day to Lupercalia, or to the practice of pulling names to pair men and women into couples. The earliest record of Valentine’s Day as a celebration of love and fertility so far as is know is from the 14th century. In 1382, Geoffrey Chaucer authored “ Parlement of Foules,” within which he wrote: For this was on seynt Volantynys day Whan euery bryd comyth there to chese his make. This translates to “ For this was on St. Valentine's Day, when every bird cometh there to choose his mate.” There has been an assumption that Chaucer was referring to February 14 as Valentine’s Day, but there are many arguments under which Chaucer could have been referring to any number of days during the year. For example, it is unlikely that birds in the area would be choosing a mate during the winter month of February. Another possibility for the origin of Valentine’s Day involves Christian priest, St. Valentine. It is alleged that at one point, Roman emperor Claudius II banned marriage to prevent young men from avoiding the draft by marrying. Valentinus, a Christian priest, agreed to perform secret marriages for those who wished to become married. However, it has been argued that no such ban on marriage ever took place, and that Claudius II, in fact, urged his men to take multiple wives. In the end, the link between a day of chocolates and roses and romance with sacrificing dogs and goats and then using thongs made from their hides to have naked young men run through the streets striking women with the bloody whips seems very incongruous.

Nice one! I’d like to see a video about the Cult of Mithras in the furture. You could also debunk some of the myths surrounding this organisation

You made a mistake with Saturnalia. It was held on December 19 (or 17 depending on the time period) and most academic experts on early Christianity disagree that Christmas is related to Saturnalia as the earliest source that claims this was a document written by an Orthodox monk complaining about Catholics sometime during the 800 A.D. several centuries after Saturnalia ceased to be an important holiday in the Roman Empire.

I hope you will cover other pre-christian religions of Europe.

nice video, complex subject and i know you could not put everything in there. some questions i am left with: 1. I know the Romans worshiped ancestors, when did this start and end? 2. Did the priests of Mars have a problem with the cult of Mithades, which seemed to supplement them? Were there any other conflicts between the cults and established gods, besides Bacchus?

@MrWaterlionmonkey

Ай бұрын

The Roman government really didn't like the cult of Isis but it was too popular and the didn't like the druids or Manichism

Love Your Catalog !!!!!!

Dear @KingsandGenerals what is the music you used at 50:24? It’s very evocative. If you could provide the track name to find out more about it, that would be awesome. Thanks! ❤

The date of Christmas was not meant to coincide with Saturnalia, that has been debunked. And people giving each other gifts doesn't belong to paganism, nor does dancing, despite one theological opinion. Those are universal human expressions that can't be claimed by one or another culture or religious group.

@thomaswillard6267

Ай бұрын

Love this mentality

@iippo06

Ай бұрын

Go wash feet.

@istvansipos9940

Ай бұрын

"The date of Christmas was not meant to coincide with Saturnalia, that has been debunked" and there must be sources about that debunking, I am sure. "...Those are universal human expressions that can't be claimed by one or another culture or religious group." And they are NOT claimed by any particular group. And nobody said they were claimed by a particular group. They come from pre- PRE-christian times. Thus, they have pagan origins. Probably a bazillion different origins. All pagan.

@arethmaran1279

Ай бұрын

@istvansipos9940 several church fathers have various discourses with pagans and jewish scholars about the subject. When David danced before the Lord, was he a pagan? Shouldn't he have been struck down by God in that moment for worshipping like the canaanites?

@istvansipos9940

Ай бұрын

@@arethmaran1279 irrelevant questions about mythology. Even in this thread. We were talking about the pagan origins of dancing, right? Pagans did that stuff LOOOOOONG before christianity all over the world. maybe re-read the comments. I quoted you. It is really not that hard to follow.

the economic history of rome like this would be amazing. tenney frank.

As much as I like the military history, cultural history is probably even more interesting. Excited to see more!

"Greek and Roman mythology are interwoven, and to many, they appear to be one and the same. While the names of the gods and goddesses may be different - Zeus morphed into Jupiter while Hades became Pluto - their diverse roles and positions in society are fairly consistent... After Zeus and his brothers (Poseidon and Hades) became victorious over the Titans, Saturn was expelled from the home of the Greek gods, Mt. Olympus... According to legend, Saturn settled in Latium on the future site of Rome. His arrival was welcomed by the Roman god Janus, the two-faced deity, the god of the beginnings and ends. Saturn quickly established himself there, even founding the nearby city of Saturnia." [Saturn: Definition, by Donald L. Wasson, 16 Oct 2015, World History Encyclopedia]

The drawing of Marcus Aurelius @ 55:49 min, looks like Lil Dickey the rapper

@VoidLantadd

Ай бұрын

It's also the same illustration they used for his son, Commodus.

This was a very educational video - loving it

I think the most telling example of the contradictory Roman historiography has to be the Cult of Quirinus. Quirinus, a Sabine war-god not unlike Mars or Ares, was celebrated and worshipped in Rome. Yet contemporary Roman history said that the Romans ruled the Sabines and had always ruled the Sabines. So to explain that they had always ruled the Sabines. They just claimed that Quirinus was Romulus' name after his deification. And the cult of the divine Romulus was thus co-opted with the cult of Quirinus, the Sabine God of War.

@weirdofromhalo

Ай бұрын

What evidence do we have that Quirinus was a fod of the Sabines?

Its impossible to talk of Christianity's rise in rome without mentioning cyprians plague. It had an overwhelming effect in turning alot of the empires populace towards Christianity. Alot of the survivors of cyprians plague were christian communities that preached charity and went a long way to conduct paliative care this increasing survivability. Christianity was actually in the decline thanks to all the persecutions xstians experienced at the hands of roman emperors before the plague.

This was ɡreat! Would love to see more history of reliɡion videos! An interestinɡ one would be the lonɡ history of reliɡious turnover in Mesopotamia - ancient Sumerian and Babylonian reliɡions, Zoroastrianism, Hellenistic religion, Christianity, Sunni and Shia Islam, as well as Judaism in Mesopotamia and various smaller religions like the Manichaeans.

@runajain5773

Ай бұрын

He already made on how sunni and shia split and early muslim expansion in middle to persia to north Africa to Iberia peninsula

"The tradition that Romulus & Remus were suckled by a wolf in a dark recess on the side of the Aventine Hill which was swallowed by an overhanging grove, rendered this spot scared in the eyes of the Romans. Here was formerly celebrated the festival of the Lupercalia in honour of the god Pan, & riotous & lavacious scenes were annually witnessed there. After Rome became Christian this festival was celebrated even until the end of the Fifth century. In the course of the centuries, that sylvan spot became covered with the stately buildings of the Forum, the seat of justice of Imperial Rome. Tacitus mentions the Lucus Asyli, or the grove of the Asylum, because Romulus, wishing to gather foreigners into his new State, made a sanctuary there. It was situated between the two rocks of the Capitoline Hill, & now the Piazza del Campidoglio occupies its site. On one of the rocks the temple of Jupiter Capitoline was built, & on the other that of Feretrian Jove*." [The Forest: In Folklore & Mythology, Alexander Porteous, 1928/2002, p. 67-68](*John Dryden)

I have a question I wanted to ask: Would you consider the WWI series? Because July 28 of this year would be exactly 110 years since WWI began.

@KingsandGenerals

Ай бұрын

We are considering it

@josephsarra4320

Ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals It would be great because this war is actually the foundation of the modern world today and it'll be very intriguing to know about it, especially with your animations and in depth analysis of the reasons why it started, the battles and other related events during and after the war such as two Russian Revoltions, Irish Civil War, Russian Civil War, Greco-Turkish War, the 1918-1920 flu pandemic, etc. So, I'm excited about that and it helps to keep things fresh besides relying on Indy Neidell's Great War Coverage uploaded 10 years ago in the Great War Channel.

It would also be beneficial to a multi-cultural empire to practice a common faith which advocates tolerance and an understanding that everyone who shares this faith is a child of God with inherent value. It’s a strategic way of unifying an otherwise too diverse and too different of people together. Clever if you are cold blooded enough just to think of a way to band a nation together.

@PcCAvioN

Ай бұрын

Its almost as if organized religion is just a tool the priest class uses to control the populace

I'd love a video on an overview of Tengrism

Mater Matuta.....what a wonderful phrase,🎵

Good video, just one correction. Saturnalia never dropped on 25th December, it was celebrated on 17th December, on 25th was celebrated Sol Invictus, birthday of the sun, a roman cult promoted by emperor Aurelian in 270 AD...

@thomaswillard6267

Ай бұрын

This is not any more correct than what he said

@imperiumgrim4717

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Any books about this stuff sounds interesting af.

Originally, the Romans worshiped noumena, or spirits. The original religion of the region was animistic. With time, the Romans adopted a number of deities. The cult of Vesta, for example goes back to before the founding of Rome, as Rhea Silvia, the mother of Rome’s founders, Romulus and Remus, had been a Vestal. The Salian Rites, honoring the God Mars, also go back far into Roman history. Lupercalia, the feast celebrating the she wolf who suckled Romulus and Remus as infants, is a fertility rite that goes back to shortly after Rome was founded. Other native gods were Janus, Saturn, and the Bona Dea, a cult specifically followed by women. The Romans also borrowed a number of gods from the Greeks. Jupiter is probably borrowed from the Greek Zeus, Neptune from Poseidon, Minerva from Athena, and Diana from Artemis. Some deities were borrowed without changing the names, such as Apollo, Castor and Pollux. Roman priests consulted the Sibylline books, especially in times of turmoil. During the Second Punic War, when Hannibal was laying waste to much of the Italian peninsula, they consulted the Sibylline books and determined that if they were to win the war, they must bring to Rome a large rock representing Cybele, the Mother Goddess. They sent their most worthy young man, a cousin of Scipio Africanus, to Anatolia to retrieve the goddess. The Romans also routinely consulted the Greek Oracle at Delphi. Some Romans had an affinity for foreign cults. The cult of Bacchus (Dionysus) was popular early in the second century BCE and was persecuted by more traditional elements of Roman society. Later on, some Romans adopted the cult of Isis. In the early years of the Empire the cult of Mithras was very popular with legionaries. When the republic ceased and Rome became a monarchy, the Caesars came to be deified. Cults of worship sprang up around these deified Caesars. Part of the problem with Judea was that the Jews refused to worship Caesar as a god because they were monotheistic and were not permitted to worship any but their own God. This led to a series of revolts. Other Roman provinces had no problem with worshiping the Emperors because they were polytheistic and to a polytheist adding one more god poses no dilemma. The Romans were generally tolerant of other people’s religions, the exceptions being the aforementioned cult of Bacchus, and the Druids. The Druids posed a barrier to Roman occupation, and the Romans condemned them, accusing them of human sacrifice. In 60 AD the Roman General Gnaeus Julius Agricola destroyed the Druid stronghold on the Island of Mona. Did the Romans ever practice human sacrifice? It was frowned upon but there is at least one incident mentioned in Livy in which two slave couples, one Greek and one Celtic were buried alive in the Forum Boarium. This took place during the Second Punic War when the threat from Hannibal was at its height. It may be argued that gladiatorial contests in the arena and public executions in the arena may have derived from, or been justified by Roman religious customs even if they were not considered to be human sacrifices.

12:14 That's uh... some divine negotiation 😂

Thank you for yet another excellent educational video! I'm happy to hear that one important reason for Christianity's spread was the kindness Christians showed to others during hard times. Jesus said the most important things are to love God and love your neighbor. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)

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"What a man desires he actually fancies to be true, but the reality follows no such principle" - Demosthenes (3rd Olynthian)

Don't leave anything for later. Later, the coffee gets cold Later, you lose interest Later, the day turns into night Later, people grow up. Later, people grow old. Later, life goes by. Later, you regret not doing something... And you had the chance.

35:38 Great uncle and adoptive father, not step-father.

Christians did a number of things which annoyed the Romans. For example, in much of the ancient world, religion was something you did as part of a community. You worshiped the gods of your city and your nation because that’s part of what defined that community. The Christians didn’t participate in that, which looked to the Romans like shirking their civic duty. Religion was also something done out in the open. Greco-Roman temples were essentially sacred warehouses for images and tribute, but the actual worship happened outdoors. Christians, however, held there ceremonies indoors, in private, where they were surely (to the Roman mind, anyway) engaging in orgies or something indecent like that. That said, the persecution of Christians has been greatly exaggerated by Christians as part of their historical narrative. There were brief periods of broad imperial persecution against Christians under Nero (Christianity was legally categorized as superstition rather than, like many other faiths including Judaism, a real religion entitled to protection) and again late in the empire and there were periodic local persecutions, but for most of antiquity they were more or less free to practice their religion.

Extremely impressive video.

14:49 It is important to note that the Rex Sacrorum is a republican institution, during the Monarchy the King had these roles. After the Republic was born the King's political duties went to the Consuls and his priestly duties to the newly created Rex Sacrorum

This man is onto something. I think this channel will be the go to factual unbiased history in this polarized world. Thank you man.

What's your reasoning for going with the Saturnalia origin for Christmas and not the Perfect life origin?

Sant'Omobono is now a very quaint thermal spa location, with a nice church in a cave.

Comfy Sunday

GREAT VIDEO !

pretty good video so far. My only problem is the part about Christmas. As a history channel i would have expected a bit more research on this when it was pretty clear that Christians choosing 25 Dec as more in line of Jewish understanding of when prophets and great men were born and died rather than just co opting a pagan celebration. There just isn't any evidence in antiquity to suggest that.

Jupiter and Zeus, at least etymologically, descended from the same Proto Indo European sky figure prior to Greek influence on the Roman religion, so at least in that case, there was good reason to equate them.

31:49 Umm I’m pretty sure the Baktun in the Mayan calendar is the most accurate and most ancient then Julius’s calendar.

I love this topic

Constantine, Sylvester Stallone look alike

@MM22966

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"Yoooo, Adriananus!!!!!!!"

Pontiff be with you.

Funny, Nota Bene made one or two videos about this a few weeks ago...

This was a great video! I would love to see one on the related topic of how Greek influence slowly changes Roman culture, from its Latin origins to finally the Byzantine use of Greek as the official language. I suppose I would like to know more about the process of the old phrase: Rome may have conquered Greece, but the Greeks conquered Rome.

There is a scifi book called Household Gods where a modern woman from L.A. gets isekai'd back to Roman times in the 3rd century. She's a reasonably bland and devout Christain, but there is a bit in the book where she runs into underground Christians, and finds them...very fanatical & unreasonable, not at all like she was taught in Sunday school.

There is linguistic evidence that Jupiter was originally pronounced Deus Pater, or Sky Father. This deity might have originated with the Porto-Indo-European culture 7000 BCE. This culture spread from what is now Ukraine; west to Europe, where it is the source of various religions including the Greek and Viking. PIE also spread south into Iran and India, forming the original templates for some Hindu deities. The similarities between Greek/Roman and Hindu pantheons are too numerous to be coincidence.

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Great topic, i'm a big fan.

great video

Great video. But you forgot to mention Sun God. This religion had great influence in the army.

Very interesting video. I had no idea just how many of our customs are leftover from the Romans. Its hard to imagine a world where Christianity doesnt influence The West

@wes4736

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Where Christianity what now??

@dawsonindustries

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They are not. Does western roman catholicism and eastern catholicism and some have unbiblical and even pagan influences and indulgences, yes. But that is not Christian. The sum of some is not, and should not be, the sum of the whole.

@Native_Creation

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And much of it continued to spread around the world through the Catholic colonial powers; Spain, Portugal, and France.

@bfdiepictennisballbfdi2359

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​@@wes4736 I'm guessing he meant "doesn't influence the west"

@dawsonindustries

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Like singing amd dancing is not exclusively pagan

very good

Guys please make a series on the Haitian revolution

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Julian Calander and its corrected form Gregorian Calendar are not the most accurate calendars. Gregorian calendar rounded 5 hours 48 minutes and 46 seconds to 5 hours 49 minutes and 12 seconds. They limited error to 0.12 days in 400 years, but it still gets 1.2 days error in every 4000 years. They are most accurate predictable calanders. There are more precise calanders such as Hayyam's calander. However, Hayyam's calanderr is not predictable since it depends on observation.

Would love to see the evolution of ancient greek religion

Not now wife and kids! A new King and Generals just dropped!

The 'DNA' of the Roman gods is Etruscan but the outer appearance and veneer is Greek. Roman religion is a lot more basic, and is more about a legal contract. 'I agree to do this for you if you do this for me'

@user-fl5mq9kp7g

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Romans: Then why the racism against Northern Europeans and gay Greeks?

@shaggycan

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@@user-fl5mq9kp7g because you first borrow then disparage, and pretend you came up with it in the first place. The Roman way!

@Moribus_Artibus

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No festival of Dionysus, I see, I will be on my way to splendor-loving Athens!

@MM22966

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@@user-fl5mq9kp7gBecause they were tougher than the Greeks by then and the Germans and Celts kept trying to play "human sacrifice pinata" with captured Romans.

@user-fl5mq9kp7g

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@@MM22966 What is strange is that the Romans said that the Greeks were gay and women. It seems that the Romans were very arrogant and racist

There is no connection between saturnalia and Christmas and causes me physical pain when this myth is repeated

@freddekl1102

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ughh care to elaborate? Maybe with sources?

@nathanoliver9237

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@@freddekl1102 yes I will saturnalia is celebrated on December 17th or in that week while Christ’s mass is celebrated on the 25th in catholic and Protestant countries while orthodox communities celebrate it on January 7th these holidays don’t overlap and if you need a source for that I’ll provide them

@freddekl1102

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@@nathanoliver9237 From a quick glance I see it was originally 17th and gradually moved into 17th-23rd range, tbf I find it less compelling that days/week of the difference matter here, still looks like Christian alternative to those festivities, and apparently since 274ce Romans also had a festival on 25th fot Sol Invictus And the date also doubles as winter solstice so it just seems plausible there was a lot of shared ideas for it

@nathanoliver9237

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@@freddekl1102 festival of sol is not the same as saturnalia and if the first mention of a pagan holiday is 241 years after the start of Christianity why can’t we say the pagans are making alternative holidays to Christmas and what’s the explanation to most Christians were celebrating Christmas in January

@freddekl1102

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@@nathanoliver9237We can say quite easy what's alternative to what when in 270s ce state is hosting it's events and christians (who are not more than single digit % of population) decide on that also + it seems like date of christmas was declared by church in 400s "what’s the explanation most Christians were celebrating Christmas in January" tf you on about, only eastern christians (and it's a serious minority) celebrate it on January because it's legacy of not updating to Gregorian calendar soon enough, and yeah, that's the explanation Are you russian and religious fundamentalist or what's going on here?

Really want to know what every roman emperor view to jesus christ despite he was also roman citizen. I am so curious to this please make video about this.

There are a few flaws in the video, but that's to be expected. Overall, well done. Christianity was never proclaimed as the official religion of the Roman Empire, and Christmas was not chosen to coincide with Saturnalia.

@GorthMohogany

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Emperor Theodosius I issued the Eddict of Thessalonica in AD 380, of which made Nicene Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire. All other Christian creeds were deemed to be heresies and all non-Christian religions were deemed to be heretical.

@GorthMohogany

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@@Gift-ll4nv ahh, you are correct. I stand corrected on that point. Thanks!

Most interesting. An aspect of history not often spoken of

""... its striking resemblance to the 'Theogony' of the Greek poet Hesiod. There the Earth (Gaia) gives birth to Heaven (Uranos); then Uranos and Gaia together become the parents of Kronos and the Titans. Uranos hates his children and seeks to prevent their birth, but Kronos, incited by Gaia, emasculates his father with a sickle, and out of the blood which flows comes forth the Erinyes (Furies), the Giants, and the Melian nymphs, while Aphrodite is born from the foam what's arises when the severed member falls into the sea. Kronos and his wife Rhea then beget the Olympian gods, foremost among whom is Zeus. Kronos swallows all his children except Zeus, who is saved by the substitution of a stone which Kronos swallows instead of him. Zeus, on growing to manhood, forces Kronos to spit out the gods whom he has swallowed, and the stone, which comes out first, is set up as a cult-object at Pytho (Delphi). The poem ends with the Battle of the Gods and Titans and the final victory of the Olympians. Hesiod's sequence Uranus-Kronos-Zeus is matched in the hittite version by the sequence: Anu (Sumerian 'an'= heaven)- Kumarbi, father of the gods,- Weather-god, though Alalu in the Hittite version represent a still older generation unknown to Hesiod. The emasculation of the Sky-god occurs in both myths, though the motif of the swallowing and spitting out seems to have become attached to a different incident. In the broken part of the tablet there is some reference to Kumarbi eating and to a stone which may possibly correspond to the Pythian 'omphalos' of Hesiod's version; & it is probable that the Hittite myth ends with the victory of the Weather-god. These points of resemblance are enough to establish a strong probability that both versions derive ultimately from the same Hurrian myth. The 'Song of Ullikummi'..."" [The Hittites, O. R. Gurney, 1966, Ch. VIII. LITERATURE; §. Myths, Legends, & Romance, p. 190-191]

Regarding 1:00:00 as an Orthodox Christian: There are several theories surrounding the question as to why 25 December was chosen as the day to celebrate the nativity of our Lord. One theory is that 25 December was chosen to Christianise the pagan festival which some Christians were still celebrating, even as late as the 4th Century. This festival was the “birthday of the unconquered sun” ; Christ came into the world and when he healed the blind man he said in John 9:1-12 : As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” But symbolically we can say Jesus is the unconquered sun. Our God the Logos of the universe Both Fully man and Divine the Word of God (Greek: Λόγος) is one person in two natures, both fully divine and fully human, perfectly God (τέλειος Θεός) and perfectly man (τέλειος άνθρωπος) united in the person of Jesus Christ, in a unique event known as "the Incarnation". As when he was born on the 25th of December the Unconquerable Sun was born in a metaphor but in truth God became flesh through the Holy Theotokos to fulfill the prophecies and save mankind from the darkness. December 25th might have also been chosen because the Winter Solstice and the ancient pagan Roman midwinter festivals called ‘Saturnalia’ and ‘Dies Natalis Solis Invicti’ took place in December around this date. It was also the time of the Jewish festival of lights called Hanukkah. So, it was a time when people already celebrated things and it was good to give a Christian focus in that period of the year. Also that the 25 December is exactly nine months from the Annunciation by Archangel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary that she would give birth to Christ. 25 March had already been chosen by the Church and it was only natural to put Christmas nine months later. By the end of the fourth century, most Church jurisdictions all over the known world had agreed to celebrate the nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ on 25 December.

During the Republican era and Princeps Imperial era Rome was polytheistic. They believed to an extent that all gods from all cultures were as real as their own. Rome would often incorporate foreign gods into their own pantheon even. This religion was decentralized though meaning there was no strict leadership at all. Every god had a cult and cults sprang up constantly. Different Emperors had different patron gods and donating to the cult an Emperor preferred was a great way to get on his good side. Christianity and Judaism had a hard time finding a place in the Empire which may be surprising considering how religiously tolerant Rome was. There were issues that kept them at arm's length though They maintained that all other gods- including the Caesar’s- were not gods at all and only their god was real. Since Christians and Jews maintained that the Emperors were not gods the mere existence of their religion was an act of rebellion. They were always the minority and always on the outside of Roman culture making them easy targets The fact Rome killed Christ made the religion problematic. Worshipping a guy executed by authorities can cause issues Eventually though Christianity would grow. There were a number of factors here that caused this. During the crisis of the 3rd century, the government broke down. Christians offered relief to the poor and assistance to the starving during these tumultuous years- gaining thousands of converts. The man who put the Empire back together, Aurelian, named his patron god Sol Invictus (the unconquered sun). This was the start of the Imperial government recognizing monotheism. Diocletian, the man who rebuilt Rome, would reform the tax system. A big reform was getting rid of loopholes that rich people could use to duck taxes. The rich now had to pay their share and this meant there was less money to donate to the cults. This weakened the cults ability to compete with Christianity This is ironic because Diocletian hated Christianity and tried to destroy it. In reality, his actions only strengthened it though. The decentralized nature and mixed messaging of traditional Roman religion made it hard to follow. Christianity meanwhile had 1 message- clear and focused. It was a far easier religion to follow and it was better at advertising. The Roman education system was horrid and basically made people hate anything to do with academia or traditional Roman life. People would turn to Eastern mystery religions for the answers in droves and one of these religions was Christianity All of this means Christianity was growing quickly in the final centuries of the Roman Empire. Then we get to Constantine the Great. Constantine fought civil wars for decades. First, he fought to make himself Emperor of the West, and then he fought to unite the whole Empire (East and West) under himself. Once he was able to unite Rome under his rule he turned his eye to religion. There is a story about him having his army paint the cross on their shields and winning a battle but this is a myth. In reality, Constantine realized that Rome needed an organized focused religion that could unite the people and provide a purpose. More importantly, a strong and organized religion meant the Imperial government could exert control using religion. Thus Constantine got rid of every law designed to attack Christians. Temples became churches and Constantine began to favor Christianity more than traditional religions. This of course caused Christianity to boom. Emperors after Constantine were full-on Christians that combatted traditional old Roman polytheism. The exception here is Julian the Apostate but again, that is an exception. This is a basic outline keep in mind.

Roman Citizen: Hi, I live on the roman empire and I was wondering.... 🎶 *IS LOVING JESUS LEGAL YET?* 🎶

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The Roman pagans would not be especially pleased to imagine anyone thinking that 'Christianity' - a form of atheism to them - would come out of (evolve from) their highly ingenious (and at times disingenuous) religions. No, Christianity was and is still an affront to the religious sentiments of the Romans; however, Catholicism had no such animus toward ancient wisdom .. the Jewish prophets, the Greek poets, the Roman moralists, the German custom-ists, etc. It is here that Rome - and its genius - became the still existing Rome .. of the Church; a kind of catholicism that is still a stumbling stone for many purists and puritans, and an affront still to the religion of man's own will, a universal (and until recently a universalist) repudiation of the spirt of : 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law' (the basic polytheist premise and atheistic model of .. religion, and all irreligious religion; btw, this latter format is the prevailing 'religion' of Western Man). God bless. ;o)

@istvansipos9940

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"...Catholicism had no such animus toward ancient wisdom." worry not. They have compensated and then some. They have more than enough animus towards 17th century and later wisdom. Even against the wisdom of 20th century 5th graders. Based on magic, of course. without lies, religi0n dies.

@TheLeonhamm

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@@istvansipos9940 Very nearly true; the Masonic 'Enlightenment' (a bit of a dimming of the Catholic 'Renaissance' with its energetic glow and the Protestant 'Reformation' fully burst of flame) did not and (despite some rather awkward recent rapprochement) still does not sit well with Rome's Catholicism. Remember, Galileo was a faithful Roman Catholic - and chastised as such by the Inquisition for presenting as if 'fact' his then unproven 'theories'; the Inquisition's stance btw has been the standard basis for all academic published research 'I shall not believe it - until it is demonstrated to me', cf. Card. Bellarmine to Foscarini (on the Galileo Dispute). And then, of course, there's Descartes and Pascal, Vico and even 'Febronius' who faired, perhaps, rather better than their actual worth deserved; of de Boodt, Picard, Mendel, Asclepi, Prokop Diviš, (Andrew) Gordan, (Antonio) Neri ... etc .. you may be unfamiliar. No, the Roman Church is eclectic - and a little eccentric - in its approvals and disapprovals, however, it is decidedly (maybe 'obdurately') consistent in its demand for moral reason, demonstrable theory, and discernible wisdom withal* ..... ;o) * Unless the case is one of clerical wickedness, then a different hat is taken up. From the Black Cap to a Ditsy Bonnet, these hats can be swapped with dizzying speed. Nonetheless, it is solidly consistent in its inconsistency ....

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There are few things to correct. You said that Greek religio was higly mythologised. This view is a view from outside, politheism isn't a religion in Christian sens. All hymns and stories which we know as a greek mythology in that time used to be parts of culture and certaind disconnented cults. It wasn't a system of holly texts as the bible. The magority of our sources like e.g. Hesiod's Theogony and other were not even religios texts. On the other hand the story of the indoeuropean religion which was the part of the Greek and Roman system of believes. Another part was some religion of european/anatolian farmers who lived there befire indoeuropeans came.

There was a post on r/historymemes talking about the rise of Islam and someone made a comment about how even without Constantine Christianity would've spread across the empire because of its message compared to the oppression the pagan religion caused. That was about two days ago. Very interesting timing.

@Hwje1111

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Interesting. I think that it was because people lost faith in the old ways because of the 3rd century crisis.

@cariopuppetmaster

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The message is just as "oppressive" as the pagan one.

@401Revan

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@@cariopuppetmaster keep your reddit tier commentary where it came from...

@cariopuppetmaster

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@@401Revan yes your ignorance is worthy of reddit

@alejandromaldonado6159

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​@@cariopuppetmasterLove thy neighbors, do unto others as you want others do unto you, Heaven, forgiveness. There were no such thing as oppression when Pagan religion is basically might is right. While Christianity says strong must protect the weak not harm them.