Why Did The Roman Empire Collapse With Mary Beard | Empire Without Limit | Odyssey
The fall of the Roman Empire is still shrouded in controversy and mystery. Mary Beard delves into if this superpower of the Ancient World really collapsed and if so why and when.
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@EarthSurferUSA
Жыл бұрын
Not a mystery to me, and I don't have to study it. Today, any nation that does not protect individual liberty and free enterprise will collapse much in the same way, but to communism today. The USA is standing next in line now. We have not learned a thing---that lasted.
@ossiedunstan4419
Жыл бұрын
rubbish.
@johnchornyTheOnly
Жыл бұрын
It was neither Holy nor Roman, and the day they couldn't pay the Jack-boots. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it fell overnight
@terryhoath1983
Жыл бұрын
The Roman Empire did NOT collapse with Mary Beard. The Western Empire collapsed about 1,500 years before she was born, the Eastern Empire, about 500 years before she was born !
@daveatkinson1042
Жыл бұрын
netflix' documentaries suck, don't make that comparison!
I took a course in grad school on the historiography of the Fall of the Roman Empire. As the professor said, "If I do my job right, by the end of this seminar you won't know what the word 'Fall' means, what the word 'Roman' means, what the word 'Empire' means, and you may have trouble with 'of' and 'the'."
"Why Did The Roman Empire Collapse With Mary Beard"? I don't think Mary Beard was around at the time. It's a bit mean to blame her for the empires collapse. :D
@raydziesinski7165
Жыл бұрын
The missing punctuation simply recognizes the implied impact of the good professor. Had she been on hand in the day we might’ve still be wearing a toga.
@petersack5074
Жыл бұрын
READ the 6 volumes, of THE FALL OF ROME by Edward Gibbon. TAKE C A R E Author Edward Gibbon Country England Language English Subject History of the Roman Empire and Fall of the Western Roman Empire Publisher Strahan & Cadell, London Publication date 1776-1789
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
Жыл бұрын
Bit cruel, to describe Mary as “collapsed”! 😂
@brucesim2003
Жыл бұрын
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Nobody said Mary had collapsed, lol.
@kutulu1976
Жыл бұрын
She knows what she did.
The fact that an entire empire collapsed with her and Mary Beard was able to dodge all that debris and live to tell the story is truly extraordinary. GIBBON NEVER MENTIONED THIS!
@Gertyutz
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I just saw that too. Beard survived the Fall well, and writes regularly for the UK Times Literary Supplement (TLS) She's a joy to read.
@haldorasgirson9463
11 ай бұрын
That is because she was behind the downfall. Naughty Mary.
@williampaz2092
11 ай бұрын
Ummm….not to be impolite, but…respectfully, how old is she?…. I mean if she lived through all that she must have been born, at the latest, in 30 BC. Right? …..
@nomdefamille4807
11 ай бұрын
@@williampaz2092 That is exactly what I thought on reading the title. If only she could/would explain how she has managed such amazing longevity.
@sharcon3891
11 ай бұрын
Gibbon
Mary Beard has such a light touch when discussing what is really dense material. Such a talent and she always takes it in interesting directions.
@tim7052
8 ай бұрын
She is an outstanding historian and teacher. 👍
@fabiengerard8142
8 ай бұрын
Smart, sensitive, witty, and highly reliable. In short, definitely irreplaceable! Thank you so much for your passion and commitment, Prof. Beard. 🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏
@tim7052
8 ай бұрын
@@fabiengerard8142 Agreed!👍
@speedtrls
8 ай бұрын
@@tim7052 a wonderful communicator and her passion and deep knowledge is plain to see. I love that she doesn't infantilize, she assumes if you're watching that you are familiar with the basics and we can jump right in with the material. Her choice of artefacts to demonstrate her narrative are really impactful and feel so different from the usual documentaries which often limit themselves to busts, statues, paintings and the like.
@tim7052
8 ай бұрын
@@speedtrls Agreed!! 👍
Mary Beard has to be one of the most legendary historians ever absolutely adore her
@johanswed74
6 ай бұрын
Yes, I just love to listen this lady
@lw3646
6 ай бұрын
Such a fascinating time. The bits we recognise today, armies, christinanity, trade, law, politics, but so much thats different too like the gladiator games, public executions, tribes roaming across Europe....all in about 15 minutes though, too rushed.
@latenightpog
4 ай бұрын
With the exception that she gets simple things wrong. Like the birth of Julias Ceasar. This is just literally the script from the previous programs about Rome. *yawn* its remarkable that she doesn't mention the plagues. Measles and Smallpox.
@bend3rbot
3 ай бұрын
EXCEPT THAT she starts with the large premise of explaining the collapse of The Roman Empire and gets stuck in the Weeds of Judeo Christianity without getting any more macro than a pizza metaphor. GARBAGE STREAM OF CONSCIOUS aided by convenient talking heads
@TEAMGETHELP
Ай бұрын
Meh, just reading.
I learned more about Rome in 59 mins and 19 secs than I ever did through education. Mary beard should be on the school curriculum. She does for history what sister Wendy Beckett did for art. Superb.
@RoseMary-vs3io
Жыл бұрын
Wow, your easy
@healthyone100
Жыл бұрын
The slaughter of Gods innocent animals for your lust for flesh destroys all Empires america is next!
@jamesjefferies3762
Жыл бұрын
@@healthyone100 So I take it you're a vegetarian?
@jamesjefferies3762
Жыл бұрын
@@healthyone100 and actually, if you watched the video you'd know Rome didn't collapse. It just transformed into something different. So you're wrong.
@healthyone100
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjefferies3762 No i'm not wrong where are the Roman Ceasers today they all gone!
Absolutely theee best doc so far. Love your work Mary. Taking us into niches and places not yet seen. Hidden corners and tucked away places. Insights into the minds of those who coloured our history. Awesome facts and stories.
Love Mary Beard, she's taught me a lot. Love the pride and love in her voice as she introduces ' my tour guide, who knows more than me and he's my husband ' ❤
Mary Beard's outstanding storytelling has created in me an interest of history where none existed before. Thank you for such an enriching gift!
@lisalking2476
Жыл бұрын
I love her too !
@redpoppy4816
Жыл бұрын
She is brilliant
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
she is the lightweight historian for the causal viewer, story teller is about right
@redpoppy4816
Жыл бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354 If you are so well informed, make a video. Otherwise, keep your judgmental thoughts to yourself.
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
@@redpoppy4816 Are you the owner of Google then? People can say what they like about second class woke historians so far without being cancelled
She did it again with the Romans, fantastic every time. I'm lucky enough to have her book "SPQR" autographed by her, very nice person.
@theaxe6198
Жыл бұрын
I emailed Mary Beard after getting SPQR and she emailed me back!
@marcoss6212
Жыл бұрын
@@theaxe6198 Nice, overall she is a friendly decent person. Somehow I imaging her on the late 60s and early 70s with bell bottom pants and tank top with a peace sign on it, little be of a rebel, just a hunch :).
@DBEdwards
Жыл бұрын
SPQR. Lucky you to have a personal volume!
@bradrichards8122
Жыл бұрын
She does seem very nice. However she isn't very accurate. Storyteller, 100%. Historian, unfortunately not.
@marcoss6212
Жыл бұрын
@@bradrichards8122 Hm, a few things escapes everybody here and there, but I would like to hear where is she not a good historian. Keep in mind that I was born in Rome, Italy and understand quite a bit of Latin, maybe that's what you're referring to, I heard a coupe of times she was off a little bit there. Not an attack, just curious.
You can see the changing roles of centre vs periphery of the Empire also in the arts. Provincial styles started to influence Roman art instead of the earlier dominance of Roman aesthetic values influencing the Barbarians on the outskirts. Fascinating stuff.
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
4 ай бұрын
Good point, that was the most German Roman Throne Room I ever done seen.
I did not know Mary beard collapsed! I wasn't aware she was as old as the Roman empire. Hopefully she will regain strength.
I WISH she had been one of my professors in college or grad school because I already love history, but she's like a rock star of the intellect!
@gailhandschuh1138
Жыл бұрын
The passion that Mary Beard expresses in relation to history of Ancient Rome and the real people is addictive to say the least, perhaps if more youngsters developed a truer understanding of the past, the world would be more tolerant of the present. LOVE hearing her talks and she is a go to for me ALWAYS learn new things about the world and myself listening to her talk. 😊
@mikaelafox6106
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!! She makes me excited about history.
@Gertyutz
11 ай бұрын
I went to college in the '60's, and I hated history. It was boring. Of course, 30 years before the invention of the video.
“It’s intriguingly complicated…so bear with me…” I was hooked. Delightful, informative, and fascinating documentary. Thank you! ❤
@geoffreyharris5931
Жыл бұрын
We wouldn't accept any less.
@voraciousreader3341
Жыл бұрын
Admit it….the woman is a genius, beyond a genius. And I’m totally serious.
@williamanderson8932
11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love anything by Mary Beard, her knowledge is outstanding and although getting on a bit, hope she does more of these documetaries.
This is the first time that Rome was ever presented as an "idea" rather than a physical place. Growing up as a Roman Catholic, the concept of Rome evolving (transcending) rather than disappearing really makes sense.
@williammitchell5058
Жыл бұрын
Has Rome evolved? I see little difference, spiritually, between pagan Rome and papal Rome.
@ChrisLawton66
Жыл бұрын
"This is the first time"? No one has ever expressed such a thought before this? Really?
@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272
Жыл бұрын
How can a murder cult transcend ? 😂 ah now I remember into pedophile priesthood and a solid hate for Jesus Christ 🤠
@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272
Жыл бұрын
@@williammitchell5058 there is none - murder then & now
@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769
Жыл бұрын
The killers of Jesus.
"There's a little bit of the Romans inside the heads of every one of us." Wonderful.
@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769
Жыл бұрын
They should go home in my opinion.
@guitarslim56
Жыл бұрын
You mean "lead poisoning"?
@giovanniacuto2688
11 ай бұрын
Especially if you studied Latin at school and then ended up marrying a Roman
@MrPeterhe
2 ай бұрын
@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769 so Romanes eunt domus?
@newgreatcreation5964
Ай бұрын
I don't think so
One of the many reasons to visit modern Istanbul is to see that this is where the Roman Empire went for several hundred years. It still has miles of Roman walls, Roman Aqueducts, and some Roman monuments and buildings, such as the great cistern through which James Bond paddles in "From Russia with Love", and the Hippodrome, featuring an immense Egyptian obelisk of Thutmose III, erected by Theodosius I in the 4th century AD. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk_of_Theodosius
Brilliant. Mary's delivery makes it all the more enjoyable!
I could listen to Mary all day 🤓❤️
Mary Beards series about Rome and all the day to day lives of Romans has got to be one of if not the best informative documentaries out there. Her lectures must be wonderful.
@darinarnold6976
Жыл бұрын
There's several lectures of hers here on YT, they're good. She's very engaging
@taroman7100
10 ай бұрын
It must be pure confidence to not care about your appearance as Mary Beard does not. I find English women are like that.
@juliaorr8503
9 ай бұрын
@@taroman7100 huh? Have you been to Walmart?
@po-cf1ut
8 ай бұрын
Her book SPQR is one of the most engaging history books I have ever read. It concerns the history of the Roman Republic and it almost read like a thriller. @@darinarnold6976
@briane3657
7 ай бұрын
So are her books. She is a wonderful, informative, and entertaining writer. She has just had a new book come now as I write this in early October 2023.
A fascinating, insightful, and very well presented documentary.
Beautiful footage, excellent host! Thanks for posting/sharing!
@hhwippedcream
11 ай бұрын
I find it fascinating that the Lion became a symbol of Jesus given the role lions played in early Christian persecution
Mary Beard is one of my favorite story tellers her take on the romans is so overwhelming i love this series thank you
@IanReynolds-ip7hb
9 ай бұрын
She's an old hag
Absolutely loving this stream of Mary Beard content on Rome!
The ebb and flow of power. A non-ending story.
What an excellent presentation. Thanks much for this.
I've always wondered why the Roman empire collapsed with Mary Beard... Couldn't it have collapsed without her? It's a dangerous world, with all these people and things collapsing everywhere! I hope she'll be ok! (Mary, that is... Rome will be fine; she's been collapsing for centuries, we're used to it.)😆
@petersack5074
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Giuseppe. For a very detailed, examination of Rome, its' people; its past, its' downfall; check out '' The Fall of Rome '' by Edward Gibbon. Here, is a sample........... According to Gibbon, the Roman Empire succumbed to barbarian invasions in large part due to the gradual loss of civic virtue among its citizens.[8] He began an ongoing controversy about the role of Christianity, but he gave great weight to other causes of internal decline and to attacks from outside the Empire. The story of its ruin is simple and obvious; and, instead of inquiring why the Roman empire was destroyed, we should rather be surprised that it had subsisted so long. The victorious legions, who, in distant wars, acquired the vices of strangers and mercenaries, first oppressed the freedom of the republic, and afterwards violated the majesty of the purple. The emperors, anxious for their personal safety and the public peace, were reduced to the base expedient of corrupting the discipline which rendered them alike formidable to their sovereign and to the enemy; the vigour of the military government was relaxed, and finally dissolved, by the partial institutions of Constantine; and the Roman world was overwhelmed by a deluge of Barbarians.
@zodwraith5745
Жыл бұрын
@@petersack5074 I don't think you got the joke. Reread the title and what it _might_ mean.
@giuseppelogiurato5718
Жыл бұрын
@@zodwraith5745 ty 👍🤣
@devintaylor8702
Жыл бұрын
We Mammals will reclaim our world again Rise up all fury Mammals 🦊🐺
@gloriamontgomery6900
Жыл бұрын
😂
I've been waiting for her next story!! I cherish this woman and her passion for history and for the way she tells it. Thank you!!
@Gertyutz
11 ай бұрын
Beard writes regularly for the UK Times Literary Supplement (TLS) She's a joy to read.
Mary Beard is great. I love her doing the narration. I will watch just because it's her doing the documentary.
@janel342
9 ай бұрын
For those who were ( rightly imho) critical of the chap doing The Odyssey- THIS is what an English academic looks like!
Very good documentary. A good description of the religious changes in the later Empire. Not a lot, however, about the political collapse and cultural change which brought about the end of the Western Roman Empire...
all empires fall. facts of life. LOVED the video
@The_Space_Born
Жыл бұрын
Because of multiculturalism.
@OdeInWessex
Жыл бұрын
@@The_Space_Born No, usually because of economics. The Roman Empire existed on the basis of Multiculturalism, bringing in groups of diverse cultures and making local big-wigs Romans to administer their Empire for them. It was a process of assimilation that worked until the Empire just got too big to manage.
LOVE Mary Beard! Thank you for posting this episode.
Gorgeously presented. Mary Beard is one of the historical geniuses of our times.
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
For the Daily Mail readers perhaps
@rolandhawken6628
Жыл бұрын
And a liar or fantasist which ever you prefer. the is in reality very little that exists in evidence to prove what she says , she does not mention immigration and how it culturally diluted Rome
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
@@rolandhawken6628 Yes she is very woke and even reuses to use BC and AD
@rolandhawken6628
Жыл бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354 Glad some one else noticed
@bradrichards8122
Жыл бұрын
She is no historian. This borders on fiction.
Glad you having fun Mary God bless you and xo
This is such a huge and complicated question. Keep watching videos and even better, read lots of books. Understanding this question and its many answers is one of my personal quests. Good luck!
So many layers to the fall of this empire. Great job pulling all these threads together.
Such a pleasure to follow someone making imaginative, well-founded sense of history.
@brutaldisciplin6805
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@emmaponymous
Жыл бұрын
If you're a fan of Mary Beard's work, I recommend her book that this (originally a BBC) documentary series is based on, "SPQR" 🤓 ...Unfortunately the audiobook version is not read by her. Absolute travesty that. 🙃
@TW-fg4kt
Жыл бұрын
Imaginative…
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
Yeah ... well that's the problem with Mary: Imagination -> History = !(not) History; and Mary's imagination always appeals to the 'current thing'.
@OdeInWessex
Жыл бұрын
@@frankyyaggabot6222 So where are your books on Roman history, where are your degrees, Professorship and PROOF of your learning from prestigious schools? Where is the EVIDENCE of your Scholarship?
What an excellent production, well done Mary.
Fabulous documentary! Great job Mary, but in that pizza scene at the restaurant I was thinking that old adage, "You're not suppose to play with your food!" LOL just kidding! I'm fascinated with Roman history and had a photo of me taken while standing between the columns at the ancient ruins when I was in romantic historical Rome many moons ago! Great experience and the very best way to learn about history....travel! ♥♥
Ook what will we do without our Professor Mary narrating and knowledge. I love her Wish I knew of her early works . I am enjoying her now .
@petersack5074
Жыл бұрын
THE FALL OF ROME by Edward Gibbon. ( You could be one of his family ! ) TAKE C A R E Author Edward Gibbon Country England Language English Subject History of the Roman Empire and Fall of the Western Roman Empire Publisher Strahan & Cadell, London Publication date 1776-1789
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
@@petersack5074 Yes. Great work ... unfortunately a narrative that is increasingly destined to be consigned with the diminution of the human mind ... to history!
I could watch her 24/7/365 Oh how I wish she would make a million documentaries!
@patrickmccormack4318
Жыл бұрын
Her deliver is awesome. She was destined to do what she does.
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmccormack4318 I think that was irony from WizzardOfPaws ... he is alluding to her capacity to reinvent History and the Orwellian nature of how that might be cast into the world 24/7!
@insertgenericnamehere7774
Жыл бұрын
Simp
@sawingwithsammy6059
Жыл бұрын
Really
@mikereger1186
Жыл бұрын
Ancient History’s answer to David Fletcher.
Waves of refugees, waves of economic migrants...hmmm, sounds familiar
Fascinating. Well done.
Thanks Mary. Love this Roman stuff.
Great to see Mary's husband make an appearance in this documentary! And it looks like he's a ancient civilisations expert too!
@williamwilliam5066
11 ай бұрын
Don't be unkind. She's not that old!
@emilya4841
11 ай бұрын
No Mary’s husband is a historian too, I don’t think Mr H was referring to her as old lol
@mrh8279
11 ай бұрын
@williamwilliam5066 I was referring to them both being historians, not their ages😂😂😂
@williamwilliam5066
10 ай бұрын
@@mrh8279 I know!! It's my dry sense of humour!
Her documentaries are excellent, especially the one on the Roman slums.
Very informative documentary. Thank you.
"To ravage, to slaughter, to steal, this they give the false name of empire; and where they create a desert, they call it peace." ― Tacitus
@mrnice7570
Жыл бұрын
No one conquered Calgacus
@OdeInWessex
Жыл бұрын
@@mrnice7570 Couldn't cope with the weather. The soldiers posted on Hadrian's wall complained about it constantly.
@bertplank9892
Жыл бұрын
Not very tactful from Tacitus...
@TNord.
Жыл бұрын
@@mrnice7570 dougie McClean wrote a beautiful song called Caledonia. If you’re into all things Scottish then it’s worth a listen…
@mrnice7570
Жыл бұрын
@@TNord. he comes from my hometown of Perth, Caledonia's calling me now I'm.going home 😊👍
Love this channel.....and Love Mary Beard!
Fantastic production thank you.
Great work, thank you!
Mary Beard extraordinary. She is always creative and provocative. I so enjoyed the views of the Northern Gate. Never saw it before. Full of surprises, splendour and wonder. My regret is that when I was to University, I never attended a lecture by Mary Beard. Question. Which is more the treasure? The empire of Rome or she? Answer. Allow me a moment. I'm thinking.
Mary, you rock! I love your excitement the way you teach us history
Love your fascinating documentaries.
I have look at this via Tv and now KZread and all seemed fresh and relevant
Marvelous! Answering questions I have had but were never answered; been a while that I saw such a good documentary!
Reading SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome, Mary's book, currently and it's a great introduction into Roman Socieity highly recommend it as essential reading for everyone
Bravo! What an impressive documentary. Mary is the quintessential classicist. I could listen to her speak all day.
Excellent. Thank you. One suggestion. Include dates for those of us who can't remember precisely when various things happened in the Roman empire.
Brilliant as usual!
Marvellous! A great summary of the factors at play 2,000 years ago.
Mary Beard's teaching style is great! The videographer and video editor are gifted as well.
Amazing! Thank you, Mary.
I'd like to thnak Mary Beard because your book SPQR was of great benefit to me having read it before I read Mommsen's History of Rome. So thanks again.
Excellent again❤
To me, it's incredible that the Empire held together as long as it did, without the benefit of modern electronic communication.
@robs2579
Жыл бұрын
Without technology creating more impatient people, people were more patient
@signodeinterrogacion8361
Жыл бұрын
@@robs2579 Of course, back then things were expected to take longer than nowadays, but we aren't talking about casual communication. It was about fighting with constant rebels and invaders that could organize quickly on the local level they operated in while you where a very big chunky empire which headquarters were weeks away. To me decentralization was basically inevitable, honestly, it just makes more sense for fighting with enemies below the size of Rome (pro tip, there weren't any enemies the size of Rome, just lots and lots and lots of smaller local enemies).
@dsplodge86
Жыл бұрын
@@robs2579this is KZread. You don’t need permission.
@signodeinterrogacion8361
Жыл бұрын
@@robs2579 Sorry, I forgot to ask for the 12.43.45 form at the desk 109 in the Cunt Department for Very Very Very Important Opinions that Should Never Ever Ever be Challenged (C.D.V.V.V.I.O.S.N.E.E.C.). May the law be merciful with me!!!
@juliantheapostate8295
Жыл бұрын
@@robs2579 I did, actually. Thanks Signo
So GLAD she has done this. I love Roman History and her narrative of history in General, although I do NOT think she was DIRECTLY involved with Rome's fall.
@warfarenotwarfair5655
10 ай бұрын
She is a fraud and a diversity hire.
@skadiwarrior2053
8 ай бұрын
I don't know. She is getting on a bit now isn't she.
Mary Beard is a Roman goddess and should get her own temple!
Fabulous with a unique perspective!
Anything by Mary Beard is always worth watching
One of my favorite historians. Thank for explaining what happened at the end Roman Empire. It’s very complicated but you really explained it.
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
She is a populist historian, not a serious one
@bradrichards8122
Жыл бұрын
She is no historian. Anyone with knowledge of the time she is talking about recognizes she is just telling a story. Not quite fiction but in no way history or documentary.
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
@@bradrichards8122 The ignorant are easily impressed though!
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
Oh good! That's all settled then (note to all Historians on Ancient Rome ... you can go home now)!
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320
Жыл бұрын
@@bradrichards8122 She has a PhD from Cambridge, and teaches there. Can't wait to hear what your qualifications are.
Just excellent. What finesse and grace at discussing so many really "Byzantine" aspects of the history of Rome. Thank you!
Excellent and I learnt a lot.
It is incredible, so good! I love Mary Beard!!
Mary Beard's book is one of the best ones I've read on the subject.
I do enjoy listening to Mary Beard. I learn so much.
Interesting video, clear explanation, but in particular,very nice presenter💯💯💯💯
Oh how I love her 💕 She is so excited about Roman History and it's infectious! I know most agree and comment the same but Mary Beard and Joann Fletcher (Egyptologist) are my fave two women in the history field. I love their videos. I'd love to see a filmed lunch with them just talking
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
The uninformed and easily impressed love her of course!
@brendouhtredo425
Жыл бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354 go on then... astound us with your vast knowledge.
@megw7312
Жыл бұрын
@@brendouhtredo425 Can she read the hieroglyphs? Can she read old Hebrew? Can she read Cymraeg? Because that’s the language that tells all.
@bradrichards8122
Жыл бұрын
@@brendouhtredo425 Careful. She is highly inaccurate. Don't mistake esthetics for credibility.
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes ... love always blinds reason and excitement is typically the prelude to nonsense!
If I had 3 wishes, one of them would be to be gifted for a day with Mary's brilliant mind, and walk through Rome being able to read ALL the old words etched in stone.
@DBEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Mary Beard reading Latin on epitaphs and monuments and art is always revelation.
@megw7312
Жыл бұрын
Ask her what the Lemnos stele says 😂
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
Actually I would delight in that fantasy myself with the condition that Mary was at my side. The juxtaposition between the realities of the Roman World and the picture that exists in Mary's mind would be actually something worth observing.
@flutelady101
Жыл бұрын
And if while standing next to Mary, you touch her arm, perhaps it's like being transported through an historic "wormhole" back in time. The people will become alive again....
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
Жыл бұрын
I took Latin at school but I wasn’t clever enough to absorb anything further than the vocabulary. All the declensions and conjugations were above me, sadly.
That was excellent thanks
Wonderfull storytelling thanks very much
What a time to be alive. Mary is incredible.
@DBEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
She certainly is ... must be god-awful to be History!
@OdeInWessex
Жыл бұрын
@@frankyyaggabot6222 So where are your books on Roman history, where are your degrees, Professorship and PROOF of your learning from prestigious schools? Where is the EVIDENCE of your Scholarship?
@frankyyaggabot6222
Жыл бұрын
@@OdeInWessex 😂 Modesty prevents me replying to that ... but if you only knew!
I suggest The Fate of Rome Climate, Disease, and the End of An Empire by Harper, Kyle as a current idea based on the most current science.
@megw7312
Жыл бұрын
The murder - by Gratian - of Macsen Wledig (a.k.a. Magnus Maximus - true heir). 383 a,d.
Every few months I check to see if she's made a new documentary or not... Love Mary! She's got a new book out!
That gate is in my mothers home town of Trier Germany. It’s called Porta Negra or Black Gate. My father loved that building and did several oil paintings of it.
More emphasis need to be on the manpower shortages starting in the late 2nd century; the why & how. "THE FATE OF ROME" makes some very convincing arguments. Among many other things, Harper has a very new & different take on why Christianity became the popular religion of the people. A history book for our time as much as a new explanation of Rome's fall.
I love that the title is worded like it was her fault. I forgot who Mary was at first and saw it in my feed and thought "OMG what did she DO?!" I still watched of course cause Mary rocks, even if she did bring upon Rome's collapse.
@juliaforsyth8332
Жыл бұрын
I read it like that too and got a little chuckle from it.
Thank you!!!
Mary Beard is a great historian and story teller!
Wonderful narration.It's like living in those time periods...my she had my full attention throughout...Thank you so much Professor Mary Beard!
@megw7312
Жыл бұрын
What is she a professor of ?
@bradrichards8122
Жыл бұрын
I remember a time when the title of Professor had gravitas. Please know this narrative isn't factual. It isn't quite fiction but it is widely inaccurate.
@giovanniacuto2688
11 ай бұрын
@@bradrichards8122 History should be written with care and precision so that it is only comprehensible to other scholars. With fewer readers hopefully less public funding will be available for this field of research and greater priority will be allocated to more important disciplines. As for involving the plebs, their understanding of Roman history should be satisfied by the output of Hollywood and its ilk. The last thing we need are actual academically qualified professors who feel it's important to share their passion outside the educated elite by selection and simplification in order to give the general public at least some understanding of the subject in which they specialise
@bradrichards8122
11 ай бұрын
@@giovanniacuto2688 More bloviating. Pseudo intellectualism seems to be a theme in the commentary.
Loved your presentation. One name that should also be listed is Emperor Galerius. He wrote the Edict of Tolerance 2 years prior to the Edict of Milan. Its a very interesting document and has a sadness to it. He seems to be handing over the keys to a new generation as the temples to the old Gods are bankrupted. He appeals the the new keepers to respect the older Roman traditions.
@SuperRobertoClemente
Жыл бұрын
One reason the empire "collapsed" was its adoption of Christianity-- a foreign religion turning the culture upside down from within. It wasn't just the Gauls and Visigoths "invading"-- the very nature of the empire was to fold its margins into the center, and so its very essence was self-transformation. Christianity helped to correct some of the cruelty of pagan Rome, so this "collapse" was also good in some ways.
@CHAS1422
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperRobertoClemente "...fold its margins into the center..." Very profound and succinct observation. I think also many Romans wanted to distance themselves from the cruelty, cultural and martial arrogance of the past. Christianity offered a political/religious compromising-peace to the various demographics who already had converted and controlled so much of the empire. By the late 5th century Romans turned on paganism of their ancestors as demonic, burning down temples and smashing statues.
@SuperRobertoClemente
Жыл бұрын
@@CHAS1422 Yes, it's a complicated story, as befits the duality of Christianity: one part God's mercy personified, one part righteous vengeance. Fast forward to the Crusades, and its "Christendom" that has the monopoly on cruelty and imperialism.
@CHAS1422
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperRobertoClemente The Crusades also have a context. In the end Christianity was ubiquitous in the final stages of the Roman Empire. In the post Rome Byzantine Empire the eastern provinces, Levant, Egypt and North Africa remained Roman hands. By the sword the Rashidun warriors removed 2/3 of the territories. They invaded the underside of Europe conquering Andalusia and nearly conquering Gaul. They persistently raided south Europe for plunder and Slaves. They even tried to take Rome in 846 AD. There was precedent to the Crusades. Prior to that time, they were not the imperialists, they were the subjects.
@SuperRobertoClemente
Жыл бұрын
@@CHAS1422 Given that the subsequent millennium was one of crusade, conquest and colonialism mostly led by Christian nations, one does forget those periods of Muslim expansion and occasional Empire. Certainly, plunder doesn't justify plunder, right? And what did the indigenous peoples of the Americas do to the Catholics, Puritans and other visitors who merrily genocided them? I'm personally always curious why the Revolutions of the Enlightenment so idealized the Romans. Perhaps, deep down, they were already yearning for Empires of their own.
In reading the title, I had no idea that Mary was present there at the time or even she's that old. No wonder she's so knowledgeable on the subject!
@emdiar6588
11 ай бұрын
LOL. Came to say exactly that. What a difference punctuation makes. One comma after ''Collapse'' and we'd have been saved the confusion.
What an awesome documentary
Great video document of the greatest empire in human history, i think rome is a marvelous representation of human evolution from hunters gatherers to metropoliteans
@OdeInWessex
Жыл бұрын
Rubbish, the British Empire spanned far more of the world than Rome and modernised wherever it landed by introducing sustainable transport systems in Railways, a common language and civil services that later independent Governments all made us of.
@charlesghannoumlb2959
Жыл бұрын
@@OdeInWessex thats ur opinion but lemme tell you that everybody in the world even uneducated ppl know bout the roman empire and just ask urself how many movies were made about the roman empire and era and how many movies are made about the british plus the roman empire was great way before, its in ancient history my man vs the british empire was yesterday 😁
I have to confess; I’m madly, wildly jealous of Ms. Mary Beard, professor and narrating goddess. She gets into so many lovely, rarefied places, and is able to be close to so many wonderful and obscure items from history, I can’t help but be a tad green about it! I’m so grateful that she shares with us. She pockets us and takes us with her, as intimately as is possible, along on her excursions. This is the closest and best I’ll ever experience, as far as having access to these wonderful places and things that teach us so much about ourselves… The small votive figures are absolutely fabulous! So often in her videos, we’re allowed to view things that are simply not on display in museums. But thanks to her, we are allowed to view them. Thank you, dear lady Beard!
@susiehulcher1494
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t she just the best?! Pockets us, yes!
I walked Hadrian's Wall walk. Its a fantastic challenge and learning experience.
I'm reading her book S.P.Q.R. right now! Excellent thus far, I'd recommend it.
Great topic,l predict costly wars.