Everything you ever wanted to know about the production and purification of alkali metals
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I visited the Philipps University of Marburg to meet with Prof. Dr. Florian Kraus. A specialist in fluorine chemistry, uranium chemistry, alkali metals and much more. In this video, he explained a lot about the preparation of alkali metals (cesium and rubidium in particular) and their purification. It is, in my opinion, one of the most interesting and most information-dense videos I have made.
Prof. Dr. Kraus:
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Distillation of Rubidium (Thunderfoot): • Distilling Rubidium!
For my German viewers, there is a great video by “Die Laborratten” about his lab and his work on KZread. It’s worth watching!
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It's hard not to be jealous of research labs with literal pounds of cesium, rubidium, and elemental fluorine, lol. Must've been a fun trip for you, great video!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it was an awesome and very interesting day.
@BrandonSchabes
Жыл бұрын
don't you mean kilograms ;)
@izarscharf7845
Жыл бұрын
idk id get nervous next to 1kg of Cs just one mistake away from giving everyone a very very bad week ...
@Wtfinc
Жыл бұрын
So fun there is a disco light above the argon dryer
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
@@tafdiz No, I do not study at this University. But their chemistry department is great!
Every high school and college chemistry enthusiast or DYI is drooling in envy over this selection. Every kid or adult likes child who likes fire and explosions and performing chemical reactions would be in heaven with this treasure trove
Well done Prof. Dr. Florian Kraus for delivering a fascinating applied chemistry lecture while holding a giant glass apparatus that seemed poised to take out someone's eye.
Rummaging around in a drawer full of cesium/rubidium ampoules 😬
@darkmf666
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel that those ampoules should probably be stored a little better protected... :D
@ogonbio8145
Жыл бұрын
Keep crying. This guy probably has a PhD.
@darkmf666
Жыл бұрын
@@ogonbio8145 The physicists working on the demon core in Los Alamos probably also had a PhD. Its not like that kept them safe from a slipping screwdriver making it go critical. Smart people make mistakes all the time. I don't need to have a PhD to imagine its sub ideal to store glass containers like that. Besides perhaps my original remark was partly in jest :)
@ogonbio8145
Жыл бұрын
@@darkmf666 honestly, I just like the spectacle of it, and they probably do too. 😂
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
@@darkmf666 Nah, they sit on sand in a cabinet that withstands 90 minutes in a fire. Perfect place ;-)
This is on the highest level of educational videos available on KZread! Brilliant! My highest respect!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@cybercastor6873
Жыл бұрын
The calm with which Professor Kraus says at @ 9:07 "If one of these glass vials breaks open we get a fireball 3 meters in diameter, we cannot run that fast" Then proceed to throw the glass vials in the drawer without concerns. Amazing
@Wtfinc
Жыл бұрын
There was some “shitty” parts i loved lil
Please make more videos in this lab, especially about fluorine!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
I will try my best. But of course he is also very busy and the opportunity must arise.
@bfgoalie99
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering We don't mind waiting. He's great
Absolutely amazing video! It’s a pleasure listening to researchers so passionate about their work. So many small but critical details. I would definitely love to hear about their work with fluorine chemistry as well. I wonder if they work with ClF3? It would probably not be as terrifying to someone who is used to working with aggressive alkali metals. I was also intrigued by the very large freezer that said the contents are radioactive. I hope it doesn’t contain ampules with pure Cs-137 😅
@JohnDDK
Жыл бұрын
Oh my god. I just checked out his fluorineisgreat KZread channel. It has several videos with ClF3 and even BrF3. I think I’m in love 🥰 😂
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was a pleasure listening to him explain the process. As you found out yourself, they do work with ClF3 and BrF3 (The stuff you saw in the fume hood in the beginning was BrF3 with some leftover bromine as an impurity). There was no Cs-137 in that fridge ;). I have only seen a small amount of it, but as far as I can tell, it was mainly used for different uranium and thorium compounds. Yes, his channel is great! Definitely worth checking out! Sadly, most videos are relatively low quality. I hope that I will be able to refilm some of the awesome things he did.
@SciDOCMBC
11 ай бұрын
There is even a video on KZread in which Prof. Dr. Kraus shows his lab to highschool students, including fluorlab. Unfortunately it is in German.
Loved this video. When I was in grad school I was going to work in a lab that used a lot of alkali metals and exotic elements but decided to leave. Also "low temperature" in that lab was about 600C and they'd go up to I think 4,000 or 5,000C for their reactions. have always wanted to do air sensitive work since then (haven't had a chance). Amazing video and great explanations.
Super interested in his fluorine chemistry setup. This might be one of the best inorganic research lab videos related to Alkali metals I have had the opportunity to see.
This is an incredible lab, thank you and the professor for this kind of access. Not something we get to see often. This stuff, especially in this quantity is only ever seen in industry or academia. Part of me feels like those ampoules should be stored in a box, nested in form fitting closed cell foam. Just the thought of Rummaging around in a drawer full of alkali metals makes my butt pucker.
As a glassblower who makes bongs I am in awe of the skills of the lampworkers.
Holy shit I know this guy is _the_ expert but he’s reeeeaaaallly comfortable being around that much pure cesium
@-feonix48-47
Жыл бұрын
I would NOT be holy shit
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
There are worse - much worse - things in life.
What a cool video! I would absolutely like to see more of his lab and procedures. Really cool to see how that last bit of purity can be squeezed out when you have the need and the resources to do so. I think I can use the pouring idea as well to make some cleaner NaK ampoules even without a proper vacuum/argon flushing setup.
I just keep coming back. I have watched this video probably 10 times and I cannot get over it, it is simply amazing. I love chemistry and also have a special place in my heart for glassblowing, seeing the two come together in such a spectacular way is truly inspiring. I wish I could make a living as a scientific glassblower, dream job of mine but I have literally no skill in the field, just a pipe dream if you will.
This was an awesome lab tour. Thank you for getting such a good video, and thanks to Prof. Dr. Kraus for taking the time to thoroughly explain everything. I bet he has some good lab stories.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, he mentioned a few situations while showing me the lab and I would love to hear some more of his lab stories.
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Sure! However, I can't talk about that in public. ;-)
What an amazing video, I'd love to see more of his work. Those draws full of ampules of rubidium and caesium made me nervous.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will try to arrange another meeting with Prof. Kraus.
Could watch Prof Kaus all afternoon!
Thank you for posting this amazing video!
0:26 XeF2 😍 Cool video and cool equipment!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Yes! First time for me to see a noble gas compound in person. I may be able to film the synthesis of a halogenfluoride (hopefully ClF3) in the future. Maybe there is, at some point, the opportunity to film the preparation of XeF2.
@demonsheadshot8086
Жыл бұрын
Where is our xenon video mr chemicalforce :D
@ChemicalForce
Жыл бұрын
@@demonsheadshot8086
the infos on the glovebox and how it can kill certain chemicals was really eye opening
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. You often don't think about the fact, that a glovebox is far from a perfect inert environment.
This is amazing to see this.the custom glassware and the process is way beyond what I expected. I felt nervous watching. Thank you.
This channel makes nerds very happy.
@zyeborm
Жыл бұрын
caesium plasma torroid when? ;-)
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
@@zyeborm hahah maybe happen this year?
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely down for that!
This channel is a hidden gem
@AdvancedTinkering
11 ай бұрын
Thank you! :)
Absolutely loved seeing these techniques for working with the more reactive alkali metals. Thanks!
loved thiis video, and would love to see a second video with this professor! keep the great content up!
You know you're a true nerd when you chuckle at the thought of drying agents getting dried out by your reagent. 😂
Smuggled rubidium? I didn't even know people did that. Great video!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, it is smuggled to sell it to gullible people as an investment. Of course, cesium and rubidium are expensive, but they have virtually no value because the demand worldwide is incredibly low. Thanks!
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering that's kinda hilarious
@petevenuti7355
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering like tellurium?
@victordonchenko4837
Жыл бұрын
Everything that wasn't nailed down in the Soviet bloc was basically sold off during decommunization.
@antejl7925
Жыл бұрын
@@victordonchenko4837 yes that is what I am thinking, it was something stolen in the DDR. .
Some of the distilling equipment he mentioned... Mind blown 🤯 wicked video
Excellent, pleas more of this dude
Fantastic video! Those ampoules and canisters of alkali-metals are amazing!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, they are impressive. I would love to see them distill the cesium out of the large canister.
I love that the argon cylinder at the end is labeled ARRRGON.
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Pirates everywhere!
@gerardbroek1943
Жыл бұрын
More lab humor with the discolights and the safety sticker of 'do not touch... it will hurt while dying'.
Beautiful! I do want another video with him
Fantastic!
Amazing interesting video!
This was awesome!
I'm equally fascinated by all the super elaborate glass contraptions they just have lying around.
This was truly *amazing*
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Awesome video! I would love to see anything you would setup with this professor in the future! The knowledge shared with us between the two of you is amazing! You definitely gained a new subscriber!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I appreciate it!
WOW! More please.
Very interesting, liked it very much.
Awesome! Would love more of this
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I will try my best!
@pabstkkx
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering and include the Professor as well if possible please. Really sympatic Dude and great in explaining!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
@@pabstkkx I will. Yes he is a great person and you immediately know he loves what he does.
This was excellent!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Fascinating. I am working in a research lab for Li and Na Batteries. Seeing all these complecated destilation apparatus makes clear to me why we do not purify all our alkali metals ourself. We also have super pure Li. Very cool Video.
@hunterm9
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for reviving an old comment, but what lab do you work at? I'm also working in battery lab at the moment
Nice process shown here. Weekend Stuff
This video made me sub. Keep up the good stuff!
This is really cool, but also slightly terrifying. Great video.
Wonderful video, thank you for making it. I subscribed to both your channel and Prof. Dr. Kraus' channel.
@aaronclair4489
Жыл бұрын
Dude. Your channel is great.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it!
I stumbled across fluorineisgreat a few years ago, it's pretty well the best&only place I know on youtube to see bricks burn. If you plan to play with him some more and potentially do some inappropriate fluorine chemistry with your much better camera I'd be stoked.
very, very impressive.
Bravo............I'm am amazed u touch in .......cheers
Great stuff, would love to see a vid about fluorine!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I can't promise it, but I hope I will be able to film another video about fluorine at his lab.
Remember using a canister identical to one of those big rubidium containers for filling up the cooling system of an large E-beam evaporator a while back. It held NaK liquid metal alloy and used about half the container worth. 🤓
yes! more videos please!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
I will try to make it happen!
@JustinKoenigSilica
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering Thank you! I've nearly got my master's in chem but never had much to do with alkali metal chemistry / inorganic chemistry. This is quite novel and i doubt many people have ever seen something like this.
Fluorine is indeed great. Truly fascinating to learn about the role of moisture inclusions in the caesium/PTFE reaction - really makes me want to see if caesium reacts readily with more fluorinated carbon compounds like perfluoromethane, since breaking the "strongest bond in organic chemistry" is pretty useful.
I used Cs from an ampoule that was loaded into a stainless steel apparatus. Apparatus was baked under vacuum with Cs in ampoule, then break ampoule, then distill Cs into second pot, then use Cs as vapor distilled from second pot. As you can tell, we really wanted no residual moisture...
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. What was the cesium used for?
@sealpiercing8476
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering Making a photocathode
Interesting video!
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was a great day and really interesting.
Fascinating. Thank you so very much.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the video!
That's interesting, I've always thought of getters as just a way of maintaining high vacuum... I've never considered that you could use a getter to absorb a particular containment in a distillation.... And, wooooah, that's something of an amazing piece of glassware - respect to the glassblower who has to repair these over and over again.
This once again confirms my suspicion that the internet actually just consists of German speakers talking to other German speakers in English.
I love the color of cesium.
Wow super spectacular video! Those amounts of Rb and Cs are just mind blowing. Also that idea with the ultrasonic bath, Cs and Teflonpowder really needs to be tetsted. :D
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Be careful ;-)
@EliasExperiments
Жыл бұрын
@@Fluorineisgreat Haha, if you want to join us, I would love that!
Very interesting to see how professionals work with the alkaline metals, I see it's not too different from how you do it! I'm personally very curious about the one alkaline metal that is mentioned but not shown in the video and that is lithium. I need a very pure sample for an experiment I'm performing and for this purpose I've welded a steel destillation apparatus together (because I found out glass is less than ideal) to be placed in a vacuum oven with different temperature zones. I will construct a glove box to connect to the vacuum oven to extract the lithium and perform my experiment. I was planning to have a hot plate with magnetic stirrer to heat up a pressure cooker without the lid that contains molten lithium to absorb anything that could otherwise react with my destilled lithium. After the experiment I can put the lid on to safely store it. If you could ask professor Kraus to show his steel and tantalum lithium destillation apparatus and his hot plate with lithium granules next time you visit him I would really appreciate it, and I think it would make an interesting video. Thanks!
Prof. Dr. Kraus ist der beste💪 super netter und kompetenter Professor
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Definitiv! Euer Video ist auch super! Vor allem die Synthese von BrF3 sieht man nicht alle Tage.
@dielaborratten
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering danke 😊
Amazing video! Please also do a video on Uranium and Thorium chemistry with him.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@puo2123
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering you might also be able to make a video about the institute where i do my thesis. We have heavier element like Np, Pu, Am...
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
@@puo2123 I hope to meet with him again to make videos about his other projects. Sounds very interesting. In which institute are you doing your thesis? The problem is that it can't be too far away. With the channel I don't earn nearly enough to afford longer trips :D.
@puo2123
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering it is the Institute for Nuclear Waste Disposal in Karlsruhe. Or in german "Institut für Nukleare Entsorgung" at the KIT.
thanks
This video has not nearly enough the views it deserves
Chemiolis mentioned your video and here I am :)
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy your stay :)
The gas cleaner is very similar to the buffer gas scrubber for a MOCVD machine. Definitely want a follow up re Fluorine chemistry 😁
5:00 Love how they store the large very heavy bottles above the thin delicate tubes, opposite the way it should be.
Wow so awesome - the closest I have got is reacting Mg with NaOH - it is crude but works -That lab wow!! Lots of plumbing !! Very well explained, Professor, Doctor and Teacher 🙏🙏🙏👌👍 I was curious, I have heard that AlLiH4 is also pretty sensitive to moisture..
Probably the coolest glassware on youtube, and then they use it to boil scary metals in, what's not to like?
Fluorine chemistry! Yeah! Please 😁
Du machst echt super Videos, macht echt spaß dir zuzugucken. Immer weiter so👍 Vielleicht hast du ja mal Lust die Exotherme Reaktion von Basenanhydriden und Säureanhydriden zu zeigen sowas wie Li2O + MoO3 oder Na2O + P4O10 oder BaO + B2O3 nur so jetzt als Beispiele. Würde mich wirklich mal interessieren und gabs in dieser Form glaub auch noch nicht auf KZread.
A great video on how these processes are done. Not that I really completely understand. Still interesting.
Dammit I did not have time for this but here we go...
If I remember correctly, FLiBe Energy is proposing a UF6 fluorination process in his molten salt reactor designs. Kirk Sorensen has been a proponent of this type of tech for a long time.
This is SO cool. What about hydrogen embrittlement concerns for the container on last stage of the argon stage?
@KallePihlajasaari
7 ай бұрын
I would think that it is not going to be a problem. The only critical component was the Quartz tube so should not matter. As for metals it may weaken the shell a little over the years but selecting a suitable metal would reduce any potential danger. It might be a problem if there was a requirement for very critical hardness or strength parameters. Also the amount of H2 is low.
supergeiles Video. schau mal ob du bei den nächsten nicht für dich und dein Interviewpartner ein kleines Mikrofon bekommst
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank! Ja, ich habe unterschätzt, wie laut die Absaugung in dem Labor sein wird. Ich habe die Tonspur versucht zu bereinigen, aber mehr war leider nicht möglich. Für das nächste mal werde ich ein Ansteckmikrofon besorgen.
@berlinberlin4246
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedTinkering und vielleicht trotzdem einen zweiten audio recorder als Backup mitlaufen lassen? Super Video Inhalt! Bitte mehr davon.
43:20 Nice Disco light on this equipment :D
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Our music is even better
I made cesium azide before! I was too lazy to decompose it in a test tube (and I was worried of residual water being in the cesium azide and blowing up the test tube) but I burned it and it burned with a beautiful purple color!
I have gotten rid of 100 g of encrusted sodium by cutting it into small pieces and letting it sit on the bench overnight in a metal tub. It completely reacted with and dissolved in the water it drew from the atmosphere. Seems way safer than quenching it in Toluene + iPrOH or whatever, as long as you can make sure nobody else is working in the same space.
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Yes, keeping away organics is a very good idea, we also dispose alkali metals in the way you describe it.
This shit is fascinating
cool
Some interesting cans that rubidium came in. They look like they might be aluminium? And why would someone want to smuggle such a thing?
I whant to SEE more video about lab
At 44 min and ca. 40 sec I tell nonsense, the Ti sponge is not reacting with N2 at these temperatures. 1200 °C would be required, which you can't do in a silica tube. However, the N2 content in Ar 4.8 is below or equal to 10 ppm, so it doesn't matter for us.
wow what a cool and dangerous facility
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Cool yes, dangerous - certainly not ;-)
do they have NaK in larger quantities like liters?
🤩😱🤩😱🤩😱🤩
What was the value of the confiscated rubidium?
How do they store all the crazy glassware?
That place better not get flooded 🤭
@SeanCMonahan
Жыл бұрын
With the amount of rubidium and cesium, a couple raindrops would be a sufficient flood to wreak havoc.
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter, all is tightly sealed ;-)
Ein sehr tolles Video und vielen Dank für den Content. Ich frage mich nur warum ich wegen jeder Ethanolflasche und Dose Bremsenreiniger einen mega aufstand mit Gefahrstoffliste, Datenblatt, Gefährdungspotential und Betriebsanweisung mache. Und da liegen die Cäsium-Ampullen in einer Ramschkiste in der Schublade kreuz und quer übereinander. Bissel gefährlich ist das schon, oder?
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank! Der Schrank ist feuergeschützt und Borosilikatglas ist überraschend robust. Solange man die Ampullen also sorgsam handhabt, besteht keine Gefahr.
@Cineenvenordquist
Жыл бұрын
Immediately I am struck with a new impression of Marie Curie dodging 3 M fireballs of varying intensity as she finds out which equipment is ok to work with, but it's not true, bending toward optics and chirality over samples of ? pitchblende ? polonium and radium.
This is great and im not a pro-chemist
That spiky glass apparatus looks like Hallucinogenia!
And there was me thinking this video was about the production and purification of alkali metals when in fact the video is about Prof. Dr. Florian Kraus' laboratory and what he does with alkali metals.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Mh... but the main part of the video is about the production of cesium and rubidium and the distillation of those metals to purify them. And the purification of potassium and sodium. What was it, that you are missing?
What about sneezium ? Anyone have samples of sneezium ?
Do you think it is possible to recover neodymium metal from chipped or crushed neodymium magnets?
@Fluorineisgreat
Жыл бұрын
Yes, depending on what efforts you want to go through.
42:00 *ARRRGON* - This was the argon smuggled to Germany by the pirates back in the 1980s.
@AdvancedTinkering
Жыл бұрын
Haha! The best argon there is!
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