Building the most dangerous fountain in the world - Periodic Videos homage

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A few years ago, I watched a video by periodic videos about the sodium potassium alloy called NaK. In this video I saw something I always wanted to recreate. A fountain that uses this liquid alloy instead of water. The pump is especially interesting because it uses no moving parts. It is a magnetohydrodynamic pump.
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  • @poppyrider5541
    @poppyrider55417 ай бұрын

    The forbidden fountain of youth. I certainly would stop you aging. Great work.

  • @AldoCortesi
    @AldoCortesi Жыл бұрын

    Another amazing video. Regarding your question - I probably speak for everyone here when I say that we would like to see as much detail as possible on all the steps that go into achieving your amazing work. Personally, if this video was 2 hours long and 1 hour of that was loving closeups of the glass blowing, I would be completely on board with it. Well done, and keep going!

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! And thank you for supporting me on patreon! I appreciate it! I am thinking about releasing a second video where I show the flameworking in detail. So people can decide if they are interested to see it.

  • @djspacecake

    @djspacecake

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering actually that video drew me to your channel, amazing !!

  • @EliasExperiments
    @EliasExperiments Жыл бұрын

    Very cool looking fountain! Knowing how dangerous NaK really is, makes this video quite scary to watch. XD

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 Жыл бұрын

    Now i want a full Architectural Water Fountain Sized one! Imagine going to a park, or transit station and seeing something like *this* shooting a dazzling display of *metal* ! Maybe if i ever make that (kids- ) science museum…

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    That would definitely be one of those things I would spend my money on if I were a billionaire. Haha. But I am actually planning on building a second version that's a bit larger and looks better.

  • @prapanthebachelorette6803

    @prapanthebachelorette6803

    9 ай бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering looking forward to that 😊

  • @alexlabs4858
    @alexlabs4858 Жыл бұрын

    Now this……. This is cool. And plenty dangerous. I like it.

  • @whatisnuclear
    @whatisnuclear6 ай бұрын

    Congrats, this is fantastic work! I really love the end scene with it working in full glory. Thanks so much. I'm a nuclear engineer, and we used pumps like this to force coolant around specialized reactors, especially back in the old days like at EBR-1 in Idaho, which also used NaK.

  • @Lindsays-tech
    @Lindsays-tech Жыл бұрын

    Fabulous! I wish I could 'like' this more than once!! I'd be interested in seeing more of the glassworking as you go along. Very, very, well done.

  • @sealpiercing8476
    @sealpiercing8476 Жыл бұрын

    It seems like you've got the tungsten rod sealing under control, but there's also the option of an induction pump using alternating magnetic fields, including the circle arc duct electromagnetic pump--a spinning magnet array next to a circular arc tube pushes along the fluid inside. Might be a good option later or not. See Sodium-NaK Engineering Handbook Volume 4 Section 1-3, either for an overview or just because all those books are a cool overview of the state of the art of 1970s NaK engineering.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the literature tip! I will definitely have a look!

  • @contomo5710

    @contomo5710

    Жыл бұрын

    while i agree that doing it inductively would certainly be more convenient, the high currents induced in the NaK would also mean a lot of heat produced. i believe that is what is commonly used in big aluminum smelters to heat and stir the metal slurry

  • @sealpiercing8476

    @sealpiercing8476

    Жыл бұрын

    @@contomo5710 No you're thinking of using higher frequency oscillating magnetic fields to produce heat. You know how if you drop a magnet down a piece of copper pipe it moves very slowly? Likewise if you move the magnet you can push on a conductive object. NaK is conductive so if you move the magnets along the tube it pushes the NaK. My description may not do it justice but real pumps for liquid metals exist, using that operating principle.

  • @contomo5710

    @contomo5710

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sealpiercing8476 yes I do know, which is because of the same reason, the magnetic field induces eddy currents, go to your shed try it out the copper tube will get hot after dropping it many times :P

  • @sealpiercing8476

    @sealpiercing8476

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@contomo5710 Ok true but not a lot of pumping work is needed here so even if the pump is only 10% efficient (I think that is an achievable result for this style) the heat buildup will not be severe. I don't know for sure without actually doing the math.

  • @johnputnam3826
    @johnputnam3826 Жыл бұрын

    The glass working is really cool and not many people do it.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, am am glad you liked it!

  • @mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav5094
    @mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav509411 ай бұрын

    Mr. Your setup is freaking beautiful. Quite the craftsman.

  • @KallePihlajasaari
    @KallePihlajasaari7 ай бұрын

    Beautiful. Next step a High Power Microfocus X-Ray source.

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 Жыл бұрын

    13:45 I personally LOVE the Glasswork, but either way people could skip/scrub through it if they don’t enjoy it as some of us. An alternative would be posting a basic project video, and a very thorough/raw footage build video. Either way, keep up the great work!

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!:)

  • @drhaese
    @drhaese Жыл бұрын

    And all the hard work finally turned out to be successful. You have created another unique tutorial. Many thanks.

  • @jesscorbin5981
    @jesscorbin5981 Жыл бұрын

    A man of culture!

  • @SodiumInteresting
    @SodiumInteresting Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful NaK fountain And yes more flameworking videos please, this is exactly the kind of thing I want to learn how to do. Most flameworking videos on KZread aren't chemistry related

  • @EdwardTriesToScience
    @EdwardTriesToScience Жыл бұрын

    you can always make a second channel and post unedited/minimalist edited videos of the glassblowing like thunderf00t

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, that may be a good idea!

  • @mikeconnery4652
    @mikeconnery4652 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent idea and demonstration. The use of the oil kept the metal from oxidizing and I think that it would make it safer too.

  • @MisterIkkus
    @MisterIkkus Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are amazing. I'm so glad I found you.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad you like the videos!

  • @nomcopterlabs
    @nomcopterlabs Жыл бұрын

    Amazing! You pulled it off! Love the making of and the showreel of the final product. What a jet. I'd definitely enjoy more of the flameworking and making of, perhaps you could use KZread chapters or a separate making of video?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I wanted to add chapters to this video but I honestly forgot. I may release a second video where I show the flameworking in detail.

  • @nomcopterlabs

    @nomcopterlabs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering heh I bet - this video must've taken so much time to put together already. I think you can add them after just by editing the description? I'll definitely watch that video if you make it! The craftsmanship is super interesting.

  • @Meerschwein
    @Meerschwein Жыл бұрын

    Cooles Projekt und besonders interessant finde ich den Entwicklungsprozess. Hab früher viel mit NaK gespielt, auf sowas bin ich jedoch nie gekommen.

  • @robertlapointe4093
    @robertlapointe4093 Жыл бұрын

    Nicely done. A tip for creating glass tubing loops more easily: make it in two halves that can then be joined at two points simultaneously. I've made some Schlenk-ware and Klein bottles that way.

  • @CM-xr9oq

    @CM-xr9oq

    7 ай бұрын

    Does that require 2 torches?

  • @robertlapointe4093

    @robertlapointe4093

    7 ай бұрын

    @@CM-xr9oq No, just alternate heating between the two locations (two pairs of open ends) to be joined. When both are hot enough to stick, make connection and then work the joins individually to get smooth seals. Requires a bit of dexterity and maybe a slightly hotter flame.

  • @GCarterStokum
    @GCarterStokum Жыл бұрын

    I really love the lamp work (if it's even called that with lab glasswork) I'd never seen the foil tape technique before, and find it quite fascinating! perhaps just another 10% that you used anyway apologizing! hopefully just good friendly constructive criticism. Thank You for Sharing!!! (subscribed and looking forward to more!)

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints Жыл бұрын

    Gratz in getting it going so well! Really well done mate 👏👏👏👍

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! There will be a second even better version.

  • @manuelcuesta7072
    @manuelcuesta7072 Жыл бұрын

    Love the glass working 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @pattheplanter
    @pattheplanter Жыл бұрын

    Another remarkable achievement. Quite beautiful, as well.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @4560123678
    @4560123678 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool! I would love to watch more of the process of how you do your glassworking, a second video might be a good idea, with or without commentary I would definitely watch it!

  • @PghFlip
    @PghFlip Жыл бұрын

    Personally i'd like to see more of the flamework! Fun project!

  • @PghFlip

    @PghFlip

    Жыл бұрын

    Could you have used CO2 instead of argon for an easier purge/anti-oxidant or would the NaK strip the O2 from it?

  • @mandardeodhar400
    @mandardeodhar400 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely amazing. Loved it.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @stephenreeves9025
    @stephenreeves9025 Жыл бұрын

    applauding...

  • @rickcreamer8193
    @rickcreamer8193 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome fountain! I believe that the one on Periodic Elements was a mercury fountain, which I had considered building myself. I thought about using NaK, but I didn't know if it would have enough mass to go that high while running. I see that it does!! 😁 Great videos! Just found your channel and look forward to watching all of your videos!

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you a lot! The periodic videos video was about a NaK fountain. You can still find the video by searching for "NaK". I was wondering if it would work with mercury but I think the density would be too high. You may be able to move it, but I don't think you would get a nice fountain.

  • @rickcreamer8193

    @rickcreamer8193

    Жыл бұрын

    I may just have to try it. I have almost 20 pounds of mercury available to try it with. Of course it will have to be a small setup due to the weight of the mercury! 🤔😉

  • @Phred_Phlintstoner
    @Phred_Phlintstoner Жыл бұрын

    I just wanna say GREAT JOB! i for one would love to see the whole glass blowing process, but i realize its hard to edit so it isn't just all glass blowing. If it wasn't so much extra work, I'd love to see the extra glass blowing in an extended video, or maybe stuck on the end of the main video, but i know that would make your video editing time go up exponentially... either way, great job! Keep up the excellent work!

  • @ryanatkinson2978
    @ryanatkinson29785 ай бұрын

    Love this channel!

  • @oneilgoisot9615
    @oneilgoisot9615 Жыл бұрын

    I love to see flame working continue like that your videos are perfect!

  • @JoeSmith-cy9wj
    @JoeSmith-cy9wj Жыл бұрын

    You seem pretty handy with a torch. I would suggest trying your hand at making bullet proof glass now. Either that, or NEVER EVER serving alcohol.

  • @benjaminmatte5225
    @benjaminmatte522511 ай бұрын

    This channel is amazing

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I appreciate hearing that :)

  • @kennethwcole2879
    @kennethwcole287910 ай бұрын

    Most interested with your skills very beautiful and and deadly good show

  • @crabcrab2024
    @crabcrab2024 Жыл бұрын

    You are just amazing! I am very glad to find your channel. Keep it up with your wonderful job. 🙂⛲️

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I appreciate the kind words :)

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын

    And to think the cooling system in an E-beam evaporator used to make halfmium and magnesium flouride coatings on laser optics used about 4 liters of the stuff. Pump is exactly the same type used in your fountain . Magnets with a couple of electrodes to create the flow. 🤓❤

  • @DanielGBenesScienceShows
    @DanielGBenesScienceShows Жыл бұрын

    Well done on something not many people have done! The music at the end was a nice match.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @DanielGBenesScienceShows

    @DanielGBenesScienceShows

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering You’re welcome! I can’t wait to see more of your work.

  • @jafinch78
    @jafinch78 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice! Excellent work! Wow, that's impressive. Guessing in relation to the comment below for a first regarding a Cs fountain; maybe better to try an alloy of Cs with Na, K or both... where the minimal amount of Cs is used just to say was done? 🙂 Now I'm wondering what the graphs look like regarding the Cs concentration and related properties.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! No, if I do it with cesium, it will be pure cesium ;)

  • @tristan795
    @tristan795 Жыл бұрын

    Now we need a cesium fountain

  • @NormReitzel
    @NormReitzel Жыл бұрын

    I still have dreams about the years I fumbled around with lampwork. I got to the point wehere I could make maria and seals reliably - not good looking, but usable. Nothing I could sell. I love watching professional glassblowers work. James E. Hammesfahr's book. "Creative Glassblowing" was an enormous help, I recommend it to your viewers. Copies are still available on the used book market as of April, 2023.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    This is also the motto of my works. It does not look good but works :D. Thanks for the book recommendation!

  • @BackMacSci
    @BackMacSci Жыл бұрын

    Excellent. Now I want one on my desk.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    I just watched your plasma donut video a few days ago and now you comment under my video. Funny coincidence. Since I made it I am thinking about ways to make it safe enough to be displayed continuously. Maybe incasing the whole thing in resin. But that would take away from its beauty. If I find a solution, I will let you know ;)

  • @BackMacSci

    @BackMacSci

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Hahah, you're videos are so good they distract me from working on my own channel loll. And I like that resin solution. Adding a heavy metal base with a cylindrical glass or acrylic bell jar would be another protective design! I'm wondering if we can make a hydrodynamic fountain with an aqueous redox demonstration? Like a more interesting, fountain-version of the blue bottle demonstration?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! There is so much good content out there, it's hard not to procrastinate on your own projects. I also thought about the bell jar solution. But if it drops and breaks, it's still going to set your house on fire :D. I think resin is the only solution providing decent protection even if dropped. You can move aqueous mediums with the pump. But you will always have electrolysis happening. So I don't think it will be suitable for longer periods of time. But I never tried.

  • @BackMacSci

    @BackMacSci

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Oh yeah, electrolysis, I forgot about that. And looks like resin is the answer!

  • @satyrkrieg
    @satyrkrieg Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely amazing

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @-r-495
    @-r-495 Жыл бұрын

    it‘s interesting how three cycles of vacuum and flushing seem to be the norm in many use-cases. Have you considered bleeding N2 or Ar whilst pulling down? We used to use that in an application to drive out the sublimated water. Only requires a tiny flow at 100μBar and below. This may, next to heating the glass, help drive out most of the residual non-inert gasses. Happy to have found your channel 😊

  • @pyromen321
    @pyromen321 Жыл бұрын

    Why not have a second channel for full length torching clips? I think that would make everyone happy

  • @benjaminmatte5225
    @benjaminmatte522511 ай бұрын

    The flame work is definitely a good thing in my opinion

  • @flaplaya
    @flaplaya Жыл бұрын

    I love messing with borosilicate it is therapeutic to work with for me... Nice job I'm jealous of that setup and carbon tools. From HID lamp knowledge a flat pure Molybdenum foil seal would be very good, just passing that along. Cheers cool video.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the advice. Do you mean using molybdenum instead of the tungsten for the glass/metall seal?

  • @ZephyrCubic
    @ZephyrCubic6 ай бұрын

    I would love more closeups of working with glass! one thing with the sound, as a headphone user: sometimes the audio is mostly in one ear or the other while you are speaking, and its a little disorienting. The simplest fix for that is probably so make the audio mono instead of stereo in spots where that happens

  • @dracrichards5785
    @dracrichards5785 Жыл бұрын

    Makes me wonder if this concept could work the same way with mercury instead of NaK. Would be awesome to see if you could pull it off and do a mercury fountain. Love your channel and content. Keep doing what you do m8 you got a subscriber here. Stay safe and keep the knowledge flowing m8.

  • @jhonbus

    @jhonbus

    Жыл бұрын

    In theory it will work with any electrically conductive fluid, but mercury is not an ideal choice. It's very dense so it needs a lot of force to give it enough of an upward push to make a fountain. It's also a pretty bad electrical conductor for a metal (I think about 1/3 or 1/4 as much as NaK) so you need to apply a much higher voltage to get a good current flow. Actually, the reason mercury is a bad electrical conductor is the same (fascinating) reason that it's a liquid at room temp. It has to do with its outer electrons moving so quickly (faster than 50% the speed of light!) so they effectively gain significant mass and are more tightly bound to the nucleus, making them less available for metallic bonds. Anyway, I'd be much more interested in seeing a caesium fountain!!

  • @dracrichards5785

    @dracrichards5785

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhonbus I hadn't thought of that. And that being the reason is knowledge I didn't know. Thank you for sharing that. And a cesium fountain does sound super cool forreal.

  • @SafetyLucas
    @SafetyLucas7 ай бұрын

    The shots at the end made me feel a certain way...

  • @Enkelados1
    @Enkelados1 Жыл бұрын

    Einfach nur geil.

  • @twiggy27111976
    @twiggy27111976 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant video. It’s sad that that we have come to a point where scientific curiosities such as this are deemed “dangerous”

  • @garrysekelli6776

    @garrysekelli6776

    Жыл бұрын

    Well it actually is dangerous. Not just deemed as such.

  • @brfisher1123
    @brfisher1123 Жыл бұрын

    Man, that alloy looks so gorgeous without all that oxidized crap covering it!

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, definitely! I will build a lager and more nicely made version in the future.

  • @brfisher1123

    @brfisher1123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Gallium would be the perfect metal to use for that if it wasn't so dense (though not as dense as mercury) and sticky since it is neither toxic like mercury nor super reactive like NaK :(

  • @cipaisone
    @cipaisone Жыл бұрын

    I think your channel has huge potential, you are doing great. I personally like the style , but I would suggest you to do an additional version ( without erasing the current one), either on this channel or in another one dedicated to a more “artistic” and simplified version, where you do not talk, just show what you do ( indeed, certainly show some of the glass-working, it is cool), add explanatory text and keep all the time the music style you had at the end of this very video …. If you then add here and there some slow motion it would be too good . Guaranteed.

  • @aljenembtry7781
    @aljenembtry7781 Жыл бұрын

    But for some reason I always thought it would be really really cool to be able to take like seizium and might get gold to infuse in the season and like be able to make a battery out of it

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 Жыл бұрын

    10:22 A good long term investment may be one of those *Open Source Glassworking Lathes*

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, definitely. But besides the financial problem I simply do not have the space for something like that. I'm doing all of those projects in my one room apartment. I really hope that changes in the future.

  • @prapanthebachelorette6803

    @prapanthebachelorette6803

    9 ай бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering one room apartment!? 😮 that’s an amazing feat of management!

  • @call.me.heisenberg6990
    @call.me.heisenberg6990 Жыл бұрын

    I am not interested in the finishing steps, but in the process. I would watch 30mins of glasswork.

  • @Spirit532
    @Spirit532 Жыл бұрын

    Add in a water heat exchanger into the next version, and cool the electrodes, so it can run uninterrupted :)

  • @adelinyoungmark1929

    @adelinyoungmark1929

    Жыл бұрын

    or maybe rather than water use another good heat conducting fluid.

  • @mikeconnery4652

    @mikeconnery4652

    Жыл бұрын

    Use mercury in a tube with outside water tube.

  • @garrysekelli6776
    @garrysekelli6776 Жыл бұрын

    Build an underwater NaK fountain inside an aquarium. As interior house decoration.

  • @mfbfreak

    @mfbfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    that would be very pre... OH HELL NO. NOPE. NOPENOPENOPE I'M OUT.

  • @NormReitzel
    @NormReitzel Жыл бұрын

    id you use uranium glass on the tungsten seals?Around 20 years ago when Argonne closed out their naK cooled reactor, they sold off around 100 kg of NaK in ampules. I bought about two Kg on the surplus market, and used it for years while working on my Graduate degrees in terpene chemistry. NaK is probably the easiest way ever to make t-Butoxide anion.

  • @user-kq7dr6ic9y
    @user-kq7dr6ic9y7 ай бұрын

    you should do this with caesium it would look like a fountain of gold

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын

    Woohoo! Way too cool. Just keep it away from cats :)

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha thanks!

  • @miningbruno
    @miningbruno Жыл бұрын

    This looks genuinely impressive (for a guy without a background in chemistry); what's stopping you from using gallium as your liquid? As far as I understand, it's innocuous, and your only technical concern would be to keep the bottom of the vessel warm (not difficult in this heat, and you can just wrap it in nichrome wire in winter). Thank you!

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Gallium would be an option. But you would have to use very pure gallium and also work under an inert gas atmosphere to prevent oxidation. Because gallium oxide will stick to the glass. Or you would have to coat the glass. The larger issue is the high density of gallium. It is appropriately five times more dense than NaK. Which also makes it harder to accelerate. It could be possible with a stronger magnetic field and higher currents.

  • @timovneerden

    @timovneerden

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Liquid gallium is also denser than solid gallium. If EVER the gallium solidifies, it will expand and will break the glassware (it breaks standard glassware pretty easilly).

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timovneerden Thats a really good point! Didn't think about that.

  • @JinKee

    @JinKee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timovneerden is Gallium like water in that regard? I always wondered why some solids are less dense than their liquids.

  • @timovneerden

    @timovneerden

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@JinKee Water has this property due to the hydrogen bonds. Those don’t exist in gallium, or plutonium (which also show a negative thermal expansion - NTE - on freezing). I’ve not searched it thoroughly, but the phenomenon is called the NTE, if you wanted to search for more info on it. It is a quite powerfull effect. It has been shown that some trees that get frozen will litteraly explode under the enourmous pressure that ice exerces on formation, aroung 100k PSI, or ~1 gigapascal..

  • @byronwatkins2565
    @byronwatkins2565 Жыл бұрын

    If you heat the NaK under vacuum, I expect that most of the oxide will boil off. If you get it too hot, the NaK will evaporate too.

  • @emailkanji
    @emailkanji Жыл бұрын

    Still waiting for your b-channel, glass magician.

  • @Deutschebahn
    @Deutschebahn Жыл бұрын

    Next, make a NaK klein bottle and explode reality!

  • @sumguysr
    @sumguysr4 ай бұрын

    I want to see this as a sprengel pump

  • @oxoniumgirl
    @oxoniumgirl Жыл бұрын

    This whole video was an absolute pleasure and you had my attention glued to the screen, bravo! Btw I really appreciate how you cleaned it of the mineral oil before the final run - I worked with both metals under oil at different points in the past (never had opportunity to combine them though) and I remember just how hard it is to isolate a sample from the protective oil without having to resort to more exotic solvents like 1,4-dioxane under inert atmosphere. Have you considered sealing it permanently while full of NaK and building a protective permanent support for it? I think it would make an excellent workshop or breakroom showpiece; what better way to show off your efforts and skills from this point in your career than with something unique, unusual, and visually striking that is also a fully functional display piece showcasing a cool effect and material that normally aren't seen in everyday life? If you submerge the bottom half of the apparatus in clear epoxy it will serve both to protect the fragile pump section and create a sturdy base to support the weight of the whole piece. There are so very few people skilled in scientific glasswork today, and I feel that their (and your) works deserve to be appreciated for the art that they are. It doesn't have to be perfect to be beautiful, and the pieces you've made for this reactive alkali metals series are most definitely beautiful! I personally love the inclusion of some glassworking footage, especially when it is put in context to the overall project's gradual completion as was done in this video. I think you could show a bit more of it than you did here too, not just more often as in showing a few more of the key steps, but also show slightly longer clips of your glasswork, too. P.s. if you make a third tungsten-glass passthrough and attach it to the very top of the tube you can drop the tube to reduced pressure when sealing the vacuum port at the last step, then the tube will double as a gas discharge tube and a magnetohydrodynamic pump tube. Use the Nak pump connection as the Anode and the top connection as the cathode and you'll be able to vaporize some NaK while cooling the anode via pump action, making for an efficient LPS NaK lamp!

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, thank you for the comment, your kind words, and your feedback! I am so happy to see that people enjoy the stuff I am doing. Yes, I thought about making a permanent display piece out of the fountain. But I think I have to optimize it, before doing so. The glass tube where the NaK squirts out of is not perfectly centered and vertical. But man, it’s so hard to get it right without a lathe for flameworking. And I have to get a better oxygen and water free environment inside the fountain. You can see in the clips at the end, that there is some oxidation happening. I think mostly because of water adsorbed to the glass walls. So maybe, if my tungsten/glass seals are good enough, sealing everything under vacuum would be best. That way I also do not have to be worried about pressure building inside the fountain when it heats up. And it would make your fountain-LPS-NaK-Lamp idea possible (awesome ides by the way. I think it would look great having the liquid metal moving around inside, while the gas is glowing). But I think that’s something for a future project. By the way: I did not forget that you wanted to see the Potassium spectrum. And I did build a “low pressure potassium lamp” and filmed it. The problem is that the color does not show on the camera properly. Its just glowing bright and color looks nothing like it does in real life. That’s why I did not release the video yet. I want to find a way to color correct the video or get a better camera to film it.

  • @oxoniumgirl

    @oxoniumgirl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Oh I am delighted to hear you liked my idea! It's inspired by old mercury arc rectifier technology, which is very similar superficially. Those ancient units are fragile and require excessive power supplies to make glow, yet they're celebrated and appreciated widely in many tech circles and yet are no where near as interesting as the Flowing LP-NaK Lamp. It's so cool to hear you made the potassium lamp! I had a prototype high pressure induction helium lamp (~100torr) made many years ago when I was still active in the RF&HV scene, and it had a similar problem with regards to the output appearing very different to the camera than to the eye. Iirc it was diffuse blue with bright orange on the fringes and pure white in the center of the plasma to the eye, but on camera it looked purplish-gray and desaturated. I don't know if you'll be able to do similar with your equipment but I found that I could approximate correct color pickup by having infrared and uv blocking filters on the camera lens plus manually setting the white balance via including a printed three-tone white balance reference card in the recorded shot. In the end even if you can't get it to look right, I still think it would make an awesome short video worth releasing, so I hope you will one day.

  • @mikeconnery4652

    @mikeconnery4652

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow you should script this video. Such a great idea

  • @3-E
    @3-E Жыл бұрын

    There is a flame working technique called a jesus seal. It can be very useful for connecting two tubes that are already attached somewhere else. I highly recommend learning it and practicing it a bunch as it takes some time to learn the proper spacing and technique.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the tip! I will look into this technique.

  • @michaelnyffeler9966
    @michaelnyffeler9966 Жыл бұрын

    Really amazing! With the weak magnets it drew 30A @ 3V, was there any difference with the strong magnets?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Ihabe to admit that I did not track the current during my attempts. As far as I remember, I did not see a change. I will do a second version and document the voltage, current more precise.

  • @XanatosDavid
    @XanatosDavid7 ай бұрын

    great! now do it with cesium please ;)

  • @Barnaclebeard
    @Barnaclebeard Жыл бұрын

    The original creators destroyed it to protect humanity. Hubris!

  • @bpark10001
    @bpark10001 Жыл бұрын

    Slope of tube shouldn't matter. You have trapped gas. Evacuate partially & re-fill several times with NaK in place. This will "de-air" the tubes. Why are you wasting the NAK you filled the first time? Can't you invert the tube & re-capture it in the syringe? When preparing tungsten rods for glass sealing, there is an "alchemy process" where you rub the tungsten with a nitrate? salt & heat. Why not buy a pair of neon-sign electrodes? Your magnet needs "back iron". Having this will multiply the field by 5 (& reduce the current by 5). Get a 1/2" thick piece of steel & cut it into a "tuning fork" piece (shaped like your 3D printed piece) except wider space between so the magnets can be stuck between (no need for screwing the magnets, they will stick firmly to the steel. DON'T have holes in the magnets. That further weakens the field!)

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Brian, thank you for the great suggestions! -Yes, that's what I also thought. A fluid should be at the same level, regardless of the angle of the tube. I also tried to evacuate the fountain and refill it with argon. But the gas bubbles did not move. I think the NaK oxidized to a point were it would simpy not flow properly. And that's where I think a steeper angle of the tube would help. -I did "recycle" all the NaK that would come out the fountain when it was inverted. But due to the oxidation, some of it sticks to the walls and it's nearly impossible to collect. That's the NaK you can see being quenched by the isopropyl alcohol. -Thanks for the tip with the nitrate(?) salt. Never heard of it, but I will look into it. Using neon-sign electrodes was my first plan. But in could not find a seller in germany. I think I found one guy selling some. But they were to big and very expensive. I also doubt they could handle the current needed. Even with an optimized setup. Do you by any chance know, what current they can handle? -Also a great Idea! I did not think about that. I do not have access to proper metal working machines. So working with steel is always a pain. But the advantages you mentioned definitely make it worth trying. There will be an improved version for sure.

  • @bpark10001

    @bpark10001

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Make up the fork with pieces of metal Once you figure out the spacing between the fork tines (glass + 2 magnets), buy stock that width & about 20mm wide. Fabrication is then only hacksaw cuts & drilling & bolting together 2 longer & 1 shorter piece. I say 30A is way too much for those electrodes (tungsten is crappy conductor compared to copper, 3.3 times worse. Get that field up & the current can be gotten down. Does sodium attack copper? If it doesn't, you could make Housekeeper seal with 1/8" copper tubing welded shut on the inside ends. If you heat that tungsten, you may have the glass crack! You are banking on the temperature of both being the same! About the seals, When I did this years ago, I used uranium glass for the bead as it matches the CTE of the tungsten better, then fused this bead to the borosilicate glass. Tungsten has "tunnels" that run lengthwise. You should butt-weld this to another metal (moly? or more tungsten). This seals the tunnels. Make the seal right next to the weld.

  • @SodiumInteresting
    @SodiumInteresting Жыл бұрын

    Its nice how tungsten oxide and borosilicate make hermetic seal Edit - just noticed you had problems and needed epoxy Did you heat the tungsten to get oxide layer Edit - I should really watch the whole video before commenting 🤣

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha, yes I had problems in the first version. But even with the epoxy it wasn't vacuum tight. A proper tungsten/glass seal can't be beaten. I heated the tungsten rod for a few seconds in the flame to get an oxide layer.

  • @experimental_chemistry
    @experimental_chemistry Жыл бұрын

    Nice. What about building a Hg-fountain in cooperation with Thyzoid?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be really interesting. But there is no way I'm going to work with those amounts of mercury at home. So we would have to do it at his place.

  • @experimental_chemistry

    @experimental_chemistry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering He's got a fumehood now. Ask him. I think he would like the idea.

  • @richierudolf3410

    @richierudolf3410

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering > don't want to work with high amounts of Mercury at home > goes on to show a fountain with NaK

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    I would work with pyrophoric and flammable stuff all day long. But I just don't like the toxic stuff :D

  • @experimental_chemistry

    @experimental_chemistry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering I try to avoid both, if they are insidious like that... But for Thyzoid it would be pure pleasure I guess - "German Mr Mercury" (in the US it's Cody, our mad hatter... 😉)

  • @LFTRnow
    @LFTRnow Жыл бұрын

    What was the voltage and current used in the final version? Was it the same or did changing the magnets make a difference other than fountain Haight?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    I used a constant voltage supply, so the voltage did not change. The current also did not change with the stronger magnets. At least not enough to be noticeable within the normal fluctuations due to the rising temperature.

  • @joule1080
    @joule1080 Жыл бұрын

    this is a very reliable way to pump coolant thru a nuclear reactor

  • @aljenembtry7781
    @aljenembtry7781 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if we could like take cesium and Mercury and kind of like make a A little accelerator with them so they could produce energy

  • @whatisboom
    @whatisboom10 ай бұрын

    more flamework please

  • @richardschomig4373
    @richardschomig4373 Жыл бұрын

    I would really appreciate if you show all of the glassblowing steps. Probably in a different video.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback! I will think about making a second video where I show all of the glassblowing in detail.

  • @michaelandersen7535
    @michaelandersen7535 Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to do it with Caesium? Not sure if NaK has special properties other than the melting point that allows this. I figured the current flowing might keep the Caesium warm enough to stay liquid?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually thought about doing it with cesium. But there are several problems: 1. Cesium is a lot more dense than NaK, which means you would need more force to move it upwards. 2. Cesium is so much more reactive and oxidizes much faster. With the surface area created by the fountain it would oxidize very fast if the atmosphere is not perfectly dry and oxygen free. And that a lot harder than it sounds. But I think you are right, the heat dumped in the metal would probably keep the cesium in a molten state.

  • @CM-xr9oq
    @CM-xr9oq7 ай бұрын

    Why does the height of the elected NAK fluctuate? Fluctuations in the magnetic field? Fluctuations in the power supply? Connective currents acting upon it? Hey from outside the apparatus?

  • @TheGreener121
    @TheGreener121 Жыл бұрын

    Hallo Lorenz! :)

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Hallo! :)

  • @TheGreener121

    @TheGreener121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Schneller als ich mir 1 Weizen reinschrauben kann!

  • @MrVeryCranky
    @MrVeryCranky Жыл бұрын

    Would this aparatus work with mercury rather than the extremely dangerous NaK ? or even galium although that tends to stick to the glass..

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    You can move Gallium or Mercury with this type of pump. But mercury is so dense, I highly doubt it would work as a fountain. Even Gallium might be to dense for this purpose.

  • @DavidMills_Physicist
    @DavidMills_Physicist Жыл бұрын

    Excellent work! Can you try it with cesium?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I have thought about using cesium. But there are two problems. 1. Cesium is a lot more dense than NaK. So I think it would be challenging to propell it up with enough force to get a decent jet. Maybe if I increase the magnetic field even more. 2. It is way more difficult to handle cesium without it oxidizing and ruining the look of the fountain. I would love to try it, but cesium is way too expensive to just try it. But I am still thinking about doing it in the future.

  • @DavidMills_Physicist

    @DavidMills_Physicist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Approximately how much does it cost you to produce a gram of Cs?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    If we are just talking about the "crude" metal approximately 2-3$. It really depends on how pure it needs to be. If it needs to be really pure the time I have to spend(especially making the glassware) rises quickly.

  • @DavidMills_Physicist

    @DavidMills_Physicist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Thank you.

  • @jianshen2223
    @jianshen2223 Жыл бұрын

    What are the advantages of using NaK instead of some other liquid metal like mercury or gallium?

  • @contomo5710
    @contomo5710 Жыл бұрын

    chocolate fountain but different

  • @prapanthebachelorette6803

    @prapanthebachelorette6803

    9 ай бұрын

    Richer denser brighter 😂😂😂

  • @ramast4881
    @ramast4881 Жыл бұрын

    30A @ 3v is 90W. How low could u lower the wattage before the fountain effect stops?

  • @hanleypc
    @hanleypc Жыл бұрын

    Hey what would be the best setup to get into glass working? Do you think and HHO burner off amazon might be good?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    You don't need a HHO burner to work with borosilicate glass. Hydrogen/Oxygen is used to work with quartz glass. Propane/Oxygen works great and is a lot safer. I wouldn't recommend using a HHO generator. As far as I know the flame from those generators is pretty small. I would recommend using an Oxygen concentrator, a cylinder of propane and a proper torch. I made a video about my equipment a while ago.

  • @JinKee
    @JinKee Жыл бұрын

    Can you make a Caesium fountain?

  • @pianochannel100
    @pianochannel100 Жыл бұрын

    Would gallium or mercury also work for a fountain like this?

  • @mfrederikson
    @mfrederikson Жыл бұрын

    Der Springbrunnen der Verdammnis

  • @wsn1192
    @wsn1192 Жыл бұрын

    You said "Lorenz force" lol :D

  • @mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav5094
    @mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav509411 ай бұрын

    Is NaK a ferrous alloy type metal? I figure it would be non-ferrous

  • @mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav5094
    @mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav509411 ай бұрын

    Silicon sealant wouldn't work?

  • @J0ermungand
    @J0ermungand Жыл бұрын

    That's pretty. Have you considered running the fountain under mineral oil instead of Argon? Would the MHD pump be powerful enough for that even?

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Yes I have thought about that and it should be possible. But I think it would ruin the looks of the fountain because the oil will stick to the glass. I may try it in the future.

  • @J0ermungand

    @J0ermungand

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering I mean, if the oil fills the tube it should be optically clear throughout? Plus if you can get it to run under oil you could cool the oil to have the fountain run for longer. Ofc, the pump being what it is is technically interesting, but the current draw is bonkers. Another way to do a more traditional pump would be to use a classical impeller style pump, but with the impeller embedded in a glass cavity and magnetically coupled to an outside motor (or maybe even constructed like the rotor of a brushless motor). That'd be more complicated to make, but would substantially reduce the current draw. I'm just thinking out loud here, looking for ways to make it more efficient are safer to run for longer periods of time. Then again, this'll probably never be made into a decorative object for obvious reasons.

  • @AdvancedTinkering

    @AdvancedTinkering

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh you mean completely filled. I thought just a layer on top of the NaK. For that I think the pump would not be strong enough. Yes some aquarium filter pumps work with a magnetically coupled impeller. That would also be a great idea. But I don't think I am able to make something like that out of glass.

  • @J0ermungand

    @J0ermungand

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvancedTinkering Hmm. Maybe there's a hybrid way of doing this. Like some piece of glass ware that can house a magnetically coupled impeller (could be a 3D printed one or something pre manufactured that is even more heat resistant) and then splice that piece into the loop as the pump (my thinking is, the impeller made of plastic needs to be kept far enough away from the heat source for splicing the part into the loop). Then again... how reactive is NaK to ferromagnetic metals like iron or steel? Those wouldn't melt in the glass blowing process and could be magnetically coupled just as easily as another magnet in a plastic impeller.

  • @aljenembtry7781
    @aljenembtry7781 Жыл бұрын

    Like Take cesium and and make it a positive charge or something positive change and take another liquid metal the maybe like Mercury be the negative charge

  • @aljenembtry7781

    @aljenembtry7781

    Жыл бұрын

    So we can be like a generator

  • @aljenembtry7781

    @aljenembtry7781

    Жыл бұрын

    With a super charged core in the middle That is surrounded by a gyroscope and there will be points the rings of the gyroscope that when spun the points When linked up will be the same pattern as Different electron configurations.. So do you think that maybe one day we might be able to replicate the energy of a atom??? Because Adam's live a super long time and they produce a lot of energy imagine if one was supervised...

  • @aljenembtry7781

    @aljenembtry7781

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm just saying you know it would be cool

  • @dancoroian1
    @dancoroian1 Жыл бұрын

    Laminar flow in liquid metal 😲 somebody get @smartereveryday over here!

  • @TheCommuted
    @TheCommuted9 ай бұрын

    Can you use a halide light bulb?

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