Candle flame is repelled by magnets (and Zeeman follow-up)

Ғылым және технология

Why is a candle flame repelled by magnets? It turns out to be a combination of diamagnetic soot particles and hot gas.
Dr. Faraday on the diamagnetic condition: books.google.com/books?id=Shc...
On Flame and Gases: books.google.com/books?id=D8N...
I should have mentioned in the video that the exhaust from a flame will be oxygen-poor, thus also making it more diamagnetic than normal air. Air is a mixture of nitrogen (diamagnetic) and oxygen (paramagnetic). Removing the oxygen will make the resulting gas more diamagnetic.
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  • @thethoughtemporium
    @thethoughtemporium6 жыл бұрын

    Have you considered using schlieren imaging to get a better look at how the air currents are affected by the magnets? Might give a more accurate view of what's going on. Would hopefully see the hot air be suddely affected. Also with actual fire there's a good chance the charges in the ionized gas molecules play a large role. But the just hot air thing is super weird. Great video!

  • @edgeeffect

    @edgeeffect

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to all the people commenting about "Schlieren imaging"... because I haven't a clue what that is.... Something new for me to read up on........ :)

  • @youkofoxy

    @youkofoxy

    6 жыл бұрын

    if my memory self me well, veritasium has a video on it.

  • @Kangsteri

    @Kangsteri

    6 жыл бұрын

    There is nothing weird in peltier effect. Its logical.

  • @xjonnyd93x

    @xjonnyd93x

    6 жыл бұрын

    That would be pretty dope

  • @Mr_c-tm3hu

    @Mr_c-tm3hu

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah isn't fire-itself a plasma so the ions could be dong more here.

  • @rpg32tamu
    @rpg32tamu6 жыл бұрын

    Some flames are actually considered to be a plasma. However, the degree of ionization in most flames is still low compared to other examples of plasma; such as an arc which still have a relatively low degree of ionization. If you apply a high voltage to a flame instead of a magnet you will generate an "ion wind" and have a similar effect to what you are seeing. The wax candle produces more soot than the methanol flame and the soot is easy to ionize in the flame, that is why the effect is more pronounced with the wax candle. Also, some wicks have metal in them which might contribute as well (i'm not sure if this was the case for your candle). If you were to repeat the experiment with a pure hydrogen flame you would see almost no effect, because hydrogen flames produce practically no ions. Flame ionization detectors work on the principal that hydrocarbon flames produce ions in proportion to the number of carbon atoms in the hydrocarbon (which is still an unexplained phenomena funny enough). Even though this effect is almost certainly due to the flame ions, it is still not a completely well understood phenomena and there is still much to learn! Also, there is a good book that explore this topic by Weinberg entitled, "Electrical Aspects of Combustion." (www.amazon.com/Electrical-Aspects-Combustion-Weinberg-Lawton/dp/B0037F75IK/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1531716710&sr=1-1&keywords=electrical+aspects+of+combustion) Thanks for the great video! Hope to see more like this!

  • @masonp1314

    @masonp1314

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Geiger and another amazing thing is that fire is actually magnetic. Which is just insane to think

  • @leocurious9919

    @leocurious9919

    6 жыл бұрын

    Why do you think an arc has a low degree of ionization? Considering the fairly low energy needed to ionize gases I would say its really well ionized. Reaching 2eV via high temperatures is very hard, but a electrode of 10kV can easily rip several electrons out of a atom. Or is this still a low degree because there are still some electrons around the nucleus?

  • @rpg32tamu

    @rpg32tamu

    6 жыл бұрын

    When I say the degree of ionization is low I am comparing it to a 'fully ionized' plasma. Degree of ionization is defined as the fraction of molecules in the gas that are ionized. The core of the sun can be considered fully ionized. An arc is nowhere near fully ionized which is why I say it has a relatively low degree of ionization. The reason an arc has a low degree of ionization is because it never actually reaches equilibrium. Typical ionization energies for gas molecules are about 10 eV. However, a gas that is at 1 eV is capable of producing ions because there is a small number of 10 eV electrons available in a gas at 1 eV (which is about 11,000 K). However, an arc does not actually get to such high temperatures because of heat loss mechanisms and therefore has a lower degree of ionization. It is useful to make the comparison between the degree of ionization of different plasmas starting with a flame at the low end, then an arc which is a little higher, then the core of the sun which is much higher. Also, I should recommend that you try putting an arc in the magnetic field and see what happens. You can actually move the arc around more than the flame.

  • @randomrandom420

    @randomrandom420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Geiger thanks for explain! So... Is the fire the coldest plasma we can get? "The "lowest energetic plasma"? My "to read" stack is becoming a monster.

  • @davidstrahl928

    @davidstrahl928

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is easily shown by setting a candle into a capacitor and seeing that it splits into two flames parallel to the capacitors axis of symmetry kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2uTmqmcj6_Sops.html

  • @TechIngredients
    @TechIngredients6 жыл бұрын

    Although a candle flame (or a methanol flame) is not hot enough to ionize all the particles flowing between the poles of the magnet. There will be a small percentage of these particles that do ionize due to the statistical nature of the thermal distribution. Gas powered MHD generators benefit from this. Potassium has one of the lowest thermal ionization temperatures and is much more available than cesium. It might be interesting to see if seeding the flame with potassium carbonate would enhance the effect. By the way, very nice video!

  • @mandernachluca3774

    @mandernachluca3774

    6 жыл бұрын

    Quick question, could water vapour play a role in this, since water is a diamagnetic element?

  • @VoidHalo

    @VoidHalo

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing. I've done experiments where I've uccessfully been able to conduct electricity through a flame due to this effect. Keep in mind too that he's using an oxy-acetylene torch, at least in the previous video, which will be quite a bit hotter than a candle or methanol flame.

  • @TechIngredients

    @TechIngredients

    6 жыл бұрын

    Did you try the potassium seeding technique? Gas driven MHD generators have been built over the past few decades, some producing ten's of kW. Almost invariably, they seed the flame with potassium even though some are approaching 3,000K. Once you have even a little conductivity in a moving gas through a magnetic field, you have Lorenz forces and you're home free. We're building something like this, so I don't want to monopolize the discussion.

  • @mandernachluca3774

    @mandernachluca3774

    6 жыл бұрын

    + Tech Ingredients How about these hybride rocket engines wich use a similar layout the MHD generators to basically accelerate the hot gases with a magnetic field? Is the additional weight and complexity worth the thrust gain or is it total nonsense?

  • @ZegaracRobert

    @ZegaracRobert

    6 жыл бұрын

    Flame is ionised gas, any electrically conductive medium that moves charge interacts with magnetic field, Faraday says so... And flame is moving up magnetic perpendicular magnetic field will deflect it 90 deg means obstruction to the natural flame propagation/flow I thought that you have been beating around the bush but watched the video all the way I am pretty surprised that you did not mention that...

  • @ThisOldTony
    @ThisOldTony6 жыл бұрын

    You may have overlooked the impact of the Krasnow Effect: super cool video and its localized effect on spacetime.

  • @asherdie

    @asherdie

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can't make videos while watching others, get back to work.

  • @liamswick9622

    @liamswick9622

    6 жыл бұрын

    +This Old Tony what is the Krasnow Effect I looked it up and all I could find was physcoligy stuff

  • @Yonatan24

    @Yonatan24

    5 жыл бұрын

    His last name

  • @xabaer

    @xabaer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very good comment, old tony!

  • @joels2923
    @joels29236 жыл бұрын

    You can make a Schlieren imaging setup to see the flow of the hot air more easily. You may even be able to get away with simply shining a flashlight on it and observing the shadow if the index of refraction of the hot air is sufficiently different than the ambient air.

  • @PlasmaHH
    @PlasmaHH6 жыл бұрын

    I like your sophisticated contactor for switching the magnet.

  • @gabor99

    @gabor99

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's realy painful to watch him arcing the contacts.

  • @zetacon4

    @zetacon4

    5 жыл бұрын

    I also noted that. I had a good laugh about that. It is called expedience.

  • @axeman2638

    @axeman2638

    5 жыл бұрын

    the coils moving as the current switches on and off is interesting as well

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium16 жыл бұрын

    This is the best fundamental science channel in existence anywhere. I wish this series would continue! The fundamental physics effects on luminous gasses and spectra are so much more interesting than just the magnet designs alone! A correction at 3:50, you aren't experimenting with the "smoke" here (ie. diamagnetic carbon/soot particles) but rather the *paraffin vapor* , this was established by Faraday in his experiments on a candle flame in the 19th century at the Royal Institution whereby he relit the candle by igniting the flammable paraffin vapor trail in air some distance away from the wick. Also I don't see anyone else having mentioned it yet, but Derek Muller demonstrated this exact same thing with the vapor in 2012 but with *electric* fields at a museum in Paris where the French call the experiment "le papillon". kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2uTmqmcj6_Sops.html

  • @pamersiel

    @pamersiel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Trying to speak more precisely, it is not paraffin vapor too. It is paraffin mist.

  • @Muonium1

    @Muonium1

    6 жыл бұрын

    That is correct. If one looks very closely at the thing immediately after blowing the candle out you can see a clear region just above the hot wick where the invisible true paraffin vapor is present and a millimeter or so above that is where the white mist begins to appear. I suspect the method of electric charge accumulation on the mist droplets (as proven by this and Muller's demonstration) is not thermal in nature as Tech Ingredients here surmises the flame ionization itself is, since the wick producing the vapor/mist is barely glowing incandescent red and the Draper point is only ~500-600C, but rather that the mechanism of charge accumulation involves some kind of vapor condensation charging, perhaps somehow related to triboelectric charging. There is so much interesting undiscovered physics lying just below the surface of our everyday mundane experiences.

  • @IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT

    @IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the relighting effect was due to incomplete combustion products (soot, carbon monoxide, etc.) in the smoke, rather than vaporized or atomized paraffin.

  • @samykamkar
    @samykamkar6 жыл бұрын

    Great tests! Very interesting. Love the EM setup.

  • @VKRenato
    @VKRenato6 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks. You should try with smoke in the bubble.

  • @afourthfool

    @afourthfool

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, maybe the bubble is rotating faster.

  • @skuzlebut82
    @skuzlebut826 жыл бұрын

    New Applied Science video means this had been a great weekend!

  • @BienestarMutuo

    @BienestarMutuo

    5 жыл бұрын

    For understand what magnetism is, read milesmathis.com/

  • @garethdean6382
    @garethdean63826 жыл бұрын

    This is why I love this channel, just the documentation of investigation, exploring all the 'what about's Never change.

  • @montaelkins2816
    @montaelkins28166 жыл бұрын

    Great work! Love the way you continue to build experiments to test your hypotheses and show your negative result; most people remove those but they are educational as well

  • @EugeneKhutoryansky
    @EugeneKhutoryansky6 жыл бұрын

    Nice experiments. I was hoping that you would have a resolution to this question at the end of the video.

  • @infinitepower6780
    @infinitepower67806 жыл бұрын

    What if you suspended a piece of Dry Ice above the electromagnet poles? It might be easier to see the C02 stream flowing down.

  • @drewbransby4600
    @drewbransby46006 жыл бұрын

    I love your experiments, literally the best channel for those.

  • @hrtlsbstrd
    @hrtlsbstrd6 жыл бұрын

    Great work as always! As a cognitive neuroscientist, it’s refreshing to see tangible experiments on basic physical processes like this 👌

  • @Tom-ll3tk
    @Tom-ll3tk6 жыл бұрын

    You put your gas bubble in the very center of your magnet, where the field is uniform. If you want to produce a force on the bubble you should put it at the edge of the pole where the field is inhomogenous.

  • @davekni

    @davekni

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I second your comment. Was thinking exactly the same thing. This other video using 50mm sphere magnets shows field measurements enough to guestimate gradient of field squared: kzread.info/dash/bejne/loxmtJahgqS_fcY.html For that video, I'm estimating about 1.0T to 0.7T over 1cm distance. If I'm calculating correctly, that makes a force just over half of the buoyancy force of hot air, based on air relative permeability being 0.37PPM above 1.

  • @KevinMcIntyreinSPACE
    @KevinMcIntyreinSPACE6 жыл бұрын

    You need to play with schlieren photography to capture the hot airstreem deflection.

  • @sef2273

    @sef2273

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kevin McIntyre right

  • @officialspaceefrain

    @officialspaceefrain

    6 жыл бұрын

    +1! great suggestion.

  • @solarfluxman8810

    @solarfluxman8810

    6 жыл бұрын

    That would probably show what's happening even better than the infrared camera setup. Great idea Kevin!

  • @SixTough

    @SixTough

    6 жыл бұрын

    I mean the guy just did like 20 experiments though

  • @SixTough

    @SixTough

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wei Zhao how many experiments did you publish though?

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore6 жыл бұрын

    Very cool demonstrations!

  • @sonyp180
    @sonyp1806 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! Keep up the good work. Its amazing what everyone can learn on youtube.

  • @mahditr5023
    @mahditr50236 жыл бұрын

    I love your monotone voice describing high-end scientific things. Hey guys I got a electron microscope or hey guys I did some amazing optic things and now this lovely magnetic show

  • @gloverelaxis

    @gloverelaxis

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not monotone at all! In the spirit of this channel I feel I should produce a spectrograph clearly showing fundamental pitch variation but I am too lazy.

  • @rowlandcrew
    @rowlandcrew6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ben, one Tesla and one nano coulomb in the candle plasma will make one nano Newton of force at about 1 meter/sec. about the speed of the flame moving. I did not calculate the likely mass of plasma (very small), maybe you could put a pair of electrodes in the plasma and run some current through the plasma without the magnet to estimate the conductivity for a coulomb estimate.

  • @Hyraethian
    @Hyraethian6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for building this and testing these things.

  • @tomclanys
    @tomclanys6 жыл бұрын

    Always delivering super high quality content. Thanks for every single informative and interesting video Ben :)

  • @manjeetgodara2225
    @manjeetgodara22256 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you can try Schlieren Imaging with magnets to see the effect better.

  • @longshot789
    @longshot7896 жыл бұрын

    My favorite mad scientist

  • @gregbrockway4452
    @gregbrockway44526 жыл бұрын

    This is the first video of yours that I've watched, absolutely amazing! Instant sub and notification, going to go binge some more.

  • @harunlisic
    @harunlisic5 жыл бұрын

    Anything a man could think of to say "It's not that, it's something else..", you've put that "Something else" in the video and proved it wrong. Well done

  • @cwoj100
    @cwoj1006 жыл бұрын

    try using a schlieren setup to film the hot air

  • @DaFinkingOrk
    @DaFinkingOrk6 жыл бұрын

    Is a flame made of plasma? Because if it is, plasma is electrically conducting and effected magnetically. So that could be another cause, if my assumptions are correct?

  • @kwinvdv

    @kwinvdv

    6 жыл бұрын

    RedButtonProductions I was thinking this as well, however I did a quick search of this and found a couple posts saying that the ion density in a flame is quite low. Also there shouldn't be a net flow of ions/charge, since as far as I know that starting and end products of a flame are neutral. Therefore the net Lorenz force on the ions should be zero. Unless the magnetic field would separate the positively and negatively charged ions.

  • @fedas15

    @fedas15

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think flame is a plasma. Veritasium has a very good video titled "What's In A Candle Flame?" you should check it out. They run an electric current through a candle flame.

  • @mikeguitar9769

    @mikeguitar9769

    6 жыл бұрын

    The ion density might be low compared to high energy plasma, but it's still high enough to have measurable conductivity with an ohm meter. Some flame sensors work this way. Given that, it still seems possible there might be some Lorenz force. It doesn't require much force to deflect a bit of hot gas/plasma. So, while the Lorenz force might not be as strong as a magnet falling through a copper pipe, a magnet is also much heavier.

  • @Prophes0r

    @Prophes0r

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Fedas Veritasium is pretty frequently wrong. Either in their assumptions, or their explanation. It is a consequence of them "dumbing things down" to make them Pop-Science. That said, candle flames are not plasma. They DO have some ions. And the flame DOES kind of act like a plasma. But they don't really have enough ions to be the REASON that candle flames act like a plasma. There are other reasons that these types of soot-heavy low-temp flames act kind of like a plasma.

  • @mikeguitar9769

    @mikeguitar9769

    6 жыл бұрын

    The question at hand is whether the Lorenz force could be deflecting the flame.

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing6 жыл бұрын

    Man you videos are so relaxing. I wish you made videos more often :D

  • @idiotwithasolderingiron
    @idiotwithasolderingiron6 жыл бұрын

    This is a hell of a rabbit hole can't wait to see where it goes love the videos keep up the good work

  • @jort93z
    @jort93z6 жыл бұрын

    Could that possibly be because of the Senfleben-Beenakker effect and the varying thermal conductivity and viscosity of the gases based on the magnetic field strength? Just an idea.

  • @pamersiel

    @pamersiel

    6 жыл бұрын

    OMG. Yet another obscure effect added into the mess. But according to the original paper, the effect reaches saturation at 7-15T (under atmospheric pressure) and when saturated decreases heat conductivity by 0.5% and viscosity by 1%. Not too much.

  • @jort93z

    @jort93z

    6 жыл бұрын

    hmm, true. But it could be part of why. Maybe there is something making the effect stronger here. Maybe the effect is stronger at a higher temperature, or the mix of gases makes the effect stronger, i don't think anybody has tested that. Or maybe this change in heat conductivity and viscosity in some places causes the flame to draw its oxygen from somewhere else a lot more rapidly. Theres not much known about that effect as far as i know. Just thought I'd throw that idea in there as well.

  • @Emerson1
    @Emerson16 жыл бұрын

    plasma in the flame is probably also responding to the magnetic field

  • @Emerson1

    @Emerson1

    6 жыл бұрын

    and great video btw. thx and keep up the good work !

  • @thomasmarquart

    @thomasmarquart

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, my thought exactly. stuff becomes ionized, thus you have free charged particles that react to magnetic field.

  • @gloverelaxis
    @gloverelaxis6 жыл бұрын

    god i love this channel. what a treasure it is

  • @realcygnus
    @realcygnus6 жыл бұрын

    One of thE Best channels around imo

  • @qevvy
    @qevvy6 жыл бұрын

    The smoke from an extinguished candle (mostly) isn't smoke, it's paraffin vapour...

  • @azz2

    @azz2

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a mixture. If you look at a wick just as it's blown out you will see an ember glowing on the wick for a second or two

  • @MarkTillotson

    @MarkTillotson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not just vapour, the visible component is a "smoke" of recondensed paraffin liquid - or would that be called paraffin steam? Maybe an experiment with liquid paraffin is worth checking?

  • @ortusdux

    @ortusdux

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. A good way to demonstrate this is to use a lighter to ignite the gaseous wax. You can actually relight a candle from a foot away.

  • @subigirlawd_7307
    @subigirlawd_73076 жыл бұрын

    I love science ❤

  • @username4441

    @username4441

    6 жыл бұрын

    ok..

  • @ThePolysyllabist
    @ThePolysyllabist6 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating. Wonderful experiments. Great job.

  • @jason1440
    @jason14406 жыл бұрын

    Great use of the scientific method. Good job.

  • @SafetyLucas
    @SafetyLucas6 жыл бұрын

    The 'smoke' from a freshly blown out candle isn't carbon, it's paraffin vapors condensing in air.

  • @fromjesse

    @fromjesse

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, part true, part not. It is true that there is a lot of paraffin mist. But when you first blow out the candle, often times the carbonized part will continue to burn with a small flameless ember as the carbon burns partially. So during the time that there is the little ember burning, there will also be carbon monoxide and possible carbon dioxide.

  • @joeld3714
    @joeld37146 жыл бұрын

    Why not construct a partial toroid core magnet (I.e C shaped and put the target in the gap)? you might be able to build a higher field setup that way. The construction of your current setup seems pretty lossy.

  • @solarfluxman8810

    @solarfluxman8810

    6 жыл бұрын

    While it's true that his magnetic circuit is longer than it needs to be (extra magnetic reluctance), it is also true that the magnetic domains within the iron core, align when energized, and add to the total flux.

  • @ardenthebibliophile

    @ardenthebibliophile

    6 жыл бұрын

    He's using a hemholz coil design. The field is plenty strong.

  • @Basement-Science

    @Basement-Science

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can more than compensate for the non-ideal core shape by applying just slightly more current, or adding more turns while using the same current. A toroidal core will just reduce the Stray Field, which is the magnetic field that runs outside the core, through the air. This field is going to be very small already though.

  • @yannicmeyer421
    @yannicmeyer4216 жыл бұрын

    Awesome series of experiments, that was pretty fun !

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    @ElectraFlarefire6 жыл бұрын

    I really need to remember to thumbs-up your video more. They are nearly always so interesting.

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    @xPROxSNIPExMW2xPOWER6 жыл бұрын

    Do you still work for googleX I feel like you do

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    @AppliedScience

    6 жыл бұрын

    I work for Verily, which grew out of Google X. I design medical device prototypes to keep people healthy and lower the cost of healthcare.

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    @xPROxSNIPExMW2xPOWER

    6 жыл бұрын

    Applied Science can do another Q&A video. Seems like it’s been forever

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    @jcims

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why I'm about to share this. About three years ago I worked for Google on the security team. It didn't work out for family/relocation reasons, but during our (amazing) orientation I met an incredible young dude (i'm old) that was there on an internship. This kid was fusion reactor in the basement type smart, and among our various conversations it turns out we were both fans of your channel. Anyway, a couple months later we met for lunch in Mountain View at that cafeteria where they have bbq, pulled pork and the like, and you and a buddy walked in and had a seat. Keep in mind I was 42 years old at the time, and he and I were like little fan girls...'go say hi'...'no you!'..'no! you do it'. I don't know what is creepier, us walking up to you then or me telling you about it now, but we chickened out. I haven't talked to the kid in a while, but I checked his twitter recently and he was in Antarctica. I guess maybe I'm sharing this because I wanted you to know that your seemingly tireless search to mine the depths of nature to learn new things and, importantly, share them with the world is appreciated by young and old(ish?) alike. This video is a perfect example of that...you take a quick sidebar (that probably took a couple hours of your time) to unambiguously confirm one effect while simultaneously exploring various dimensions of another that seems to be near some frontier of unexplored phenomenon. All this while being super transparent about your methods/successes/non-successes/etc. It's super cool and inspirational and I know I speak for many when I say that it's appreciated. So just a quick pause to say thank you for sharing your pursuits with the rest of us.

  • @WilliamDye-willdye

    @WilliamDye-willdye

    6 жыл бұрын

    Applied Science : Cool! I'm a research engineer working on similar instruments, though we target the animal & plant markets instead of humans. Your channel reminds me of work - lots of creative thinking to figure out what experiment is worth running next. The measurements don't scare me nearly as much as the implicit decisions of what to NOT measure whenever we decide what to measure.

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    @RandyJames22

    6 жыл бұрын

    According to their website, they're really good at comparing the size of objects to M&M's®... And probably a lot of other important, life-saving projects.

  • @MrTurboturbine
    @MrTurboturbine6 жыл бұрын

    You need to cool your electromagnet with liquid nitrogen for maximum power

  • @JGnLAU8OAWF6

    @JGnLAU8OAWF6

    6 жыл бұрын

    Liquid helium is waay better.

  • @MarkTillotson

    @MarkTillotson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Except that cryogenic temperatures might make the magnet core brittle unless its specially formulated - although the prospect of superconducting windings is alluring, liquid helium might allow that, but not easy to achieve!

  • @BakamonNO
    @BakamonNO6 жыл бұрын

    Nice setup and demonstration

  • @peterkimball3323
    @peterkimball3323 Жыл бұрын

    For years I've been saying that a candle flame has to be a influenced by magnetism or maybe be some kind of toroidal magnetic field effect, like what you see on the surface of the sun. But its always a passing thought. I finally looked it up and I'm so glad I found your video!! Thanks

  • @TheLightningStalker
    @TheLightningStalker6 жыл бұрын

    If you use a permanent magnet be careful not to get it too hot.

  • @unlokia
    @unlokia6 жыл бұрын

    You are incredible. God bless you and thank you! :) Matthew.

  • @joeybushagour2612
    @joeybushagour26126 жыл бұрын

    So cool! Great work as always Ben!

  • @nickthorpe7567
    @nickthorpe75676 жыл бұрын

    Incredible! Love videos like this of you just exploring with curiosity!

  • @evilcanofdrpepper
    @evilcanofdrpepper6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the higher energy particles of hot air having electrons spinning faster and reacting with magnets stronger. You could also try this backwards with a doughnut shaped cup of liquid nitrogen exhausting out to the side and put paper on the bottom and see if the current of cold Air is any less reactive, maybe all the air is similarly responsive to magnets however it might be easiest to see it in hot air/ a flame. also what about using a gas and a corresponding wavelength of light that it absorbs to see the effect, also try polarizing the light, and if you think about the reaction there are electrons being transferred and maybe that gives each individual reaction a magnetic impulse that is usually random and canceling it's self out. I would be interested to see you hook the magnet up with a super sensitive current detection method and testing if you have the magnet on and you pass a Bunsen burner flame through does it effect the strength of the magnetic field at all? And what about different flames, like a pure H + 2O = H2O flame and have 2 cheap glass eye dropper tips releasing the gases almost straight up and as close to each other as you can and set it up so that you can turn the system 360 degrees or at least 180 degrees so you can see if one gas being on one side makes a difference, you want to aim for something like laminar flow with the 2 gasses on either side of a wall or at least not mixed.

  • @gleaseriviera6722

    @gleaseriviera6722

    6 жыл бұрын

    right. its like a hyperbolic demonstration of constant action and interaction? also what about Brownian motion of the particles in the air reacting to the strong magnetic field?

  • @Xeno_Bardock
    @Xeno_Bardock6 жыл бұрын

    Because we live in Electric Universe. Everything is electromagnetic in nature.

  • @MarkTillotson

    @MarkTillotson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Except everything which isn't...

  • @trevorh6438

    @trevorh6438

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MarkTillotson prove it. Thunderbolts Project

  • @user-cv5wo3ji8s
    @user-cv5wo3ji8s2 жыл бұрын

    Обалденный опыт ! Я даже не задумывался над этим !

  • @FullModernAlchemist
    @FullModernAlchemist6 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! I’m looking forward to the next one.

  • @Tech_Planet
    @Tech_Planet6 жыл бұрын

    This a pretty incredible discovery, so many experiments to do with this!

  • @guillaumep.6534
    @guillaumep.65346 жыл бұрын

    very interesting going through your thinking process and experiments. thank you for your videos and dedications to understanding (exploring home) physics.

  • @aidinjavadi3622
    @aidinjavadi36223 жыл бұрын

    very well made and explained! insightful and entertaining too!

  • @crimsonhalo13
    @crimsonhalo136 жыл бұрын

    I just tried this with a tealight and two hard disk magnets. It works! So cool. :)

  • @EngineerNick
    @EngineerNick6 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always :) Keen for your magnetics video.. the magnet in this one is awesome!

  • @irasoltis7590
    @irasoltis75906 жыл бұрын

    You videos are simply the best and I'm looking forward the video on magnetics. I have a few challenge projects for you: 1. Make an powerful electret 2. Make an LED from scratch 3. Make a tin sulfide thin film solar cell w/ sputtering or evaporation Thank you for your great explanations. You have taught me so much. There are so many cool phenomena I might never have known without your videos.

  • @DanieleGiorgino
    @DanieleGiorgino6 жыл бұрын

    Really cool demo.

  • @1stplace40
    @1stplace406 жыл бұрын

    Interesting I do a lot of fire walking before I walk I increase my vibration ie my magnetic field as a result I feel very little heat on the Fire when I walk across. I believe you nailed it, the reason I can do that is because of magnetism Thank you brother keep up the great work

  • @TRX450RVlogger
    @TRX450RVlogger5 жыл бұрын

    Wow! The Semen Effect is cool!

  • @IncroyablesExperiences
    @IncroyablesExperiences6 жыл бұрын

    So clever while trying hypothesis, it changes from KZread "science", great !! :)

  • @Vo0d0o2009
    @Vo0d0o20095 жыл бұрын

    your video are such amazing , thanks from quebec canada ,

  • @mduvigneaud
    @mduvigneaud6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Ben! Fascinating! I want to know more! :D

  • @iteerrex8166
    @iteerrex81666 жыл бұрын

    Very cool basic and unknown phenomena. Although we know a lot about magnetism we still know little. Interested to learn more.

  • @tiemx2039
    @tiemx20396 жыл бұрын

    scientist in the truest sense, your videos are an inspiration

  • @victorinborsciov6817
    @victorinborsciov68175 жыл бұрын

    Once more interesting choice of a subject , to say the least

  • @bishopmachineshop3216
    @bishopmachineshop32166 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Very interesting as always.

  • @Yossus
    @Yossus5 жыл бұрын

    This is really cool! I only recently noticed this effect in a classroom demo - we use flames to induce sparks between arcing horns connected to a high voltage transformer. A fascinating investigation, thank you!

  • @Yossus

    @Yossus

    5 жыл бұрын

    Now that I think about it, it's more that an electric field apparently also repels flames. That seems to have to do with the ions in the flame though, I think. But maybe it's also connected to your effect!

  • @justus1995
    @justus19956 жыл бұрын

    Friend of mine works for Siemens, maintaining MRIs, one really interesting effect he told me about is that their magnetic fields can be strong enough to mess with your short term memory if you move fast enough in its vicinity

  • @pixelspring
    @pixelspring6 жыл бұрын

    It was me that posted the original comment on your first video. Firstly , I love that you took interest and built this rig to test what I mentioned. What I neglected to say in my original comment was that a portion of all flames are plasmas. Ie , former covalent bonds(or ionic depending upon what is burning) have been broken to form new bonds ( commonly oxides of course) . New molecules are forming in the oxidation process and in that process there will be a statistical population of free ions. .. it is these hot free ions that have too much energy to be able yet to form a new covalent bond with oxygen.. essentially this occurring once the process is in steady state runaway .. ie excess heat is present from other oxidations which I believe directly breaks other bonds, directly freeing atoms from their former electronic balance into an ionic state. Hot gases, less dense, rise in air and create a stream of free ions .. so the flame essentially acts as a free air electric current stream between your electro magnets. The rest is obvious and I expect I need not say more. Interestingly a candle flame in zero g burns as a sphere! .. no vectored gravitational field to create the differentiated bouancy force. Love your channel btw. Brilliant return to the original experiment with the sodium in the vial! Great work as always! PS. An interesting experiment might be burning different materials and seeing if you can get different materials to deflect in different directions.. some materials might create different populations of positive or negative ion streams... Although my guess is most will be positive.. seeking to bond with negative oxygen's ? .. but I'm totally guessing here. :)

  • @xtr33me
    @xtr33me6 жыл бұрын

    Really fascinating insights! Thanks!!

  • @urrick33333
    @urrick333336 жыл бұрын

    Love this channel

  • @ducatidragon916
    @ducatidragon9166 жыл бұрын

    back in college days i used magnetic fields to affect an argon laser i built to study the zeeman effect and the possibility of tuning and increasing the power in this laser.i found that there was indeed and increase in a particular spectral lines etc. This is was done in 1980's and of course i started to get into the free electron laser and soft xray designs etc. published some findings and went to go work at LLL labs but they had a long hiring freeze which prevented me from going to work there etc....Oh well such is life .... Nice videos keep up the good work!

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Nice experiment!

  • @chance1986
    @chance19866 жыл бұрын

    The Zeeman effect is probably active here. But the Lorentz force also acts on the charged particles in the flame. Tricky to separate the two effects, but you've done a good job trying to isolate the various effects.

  • @hhaxden
    @hhaxden6 жыл бұрын

    I would really like to see the effect of changing the orientation of the magnetic field relative to the motion of the candle flame. It might help give an idea of how significant the effect of Faraday's law type of forces are in comparison to the purely magnetic effects.

  • @KallePihlajasaari

    @KallePihlajasaari

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm, just tilting the magnet arrangement 30 degrees and checking might spark some ideas.

  • @weswest8666
    @weswest86666 жыл бұрын

    This was recommended to me, very cool!

  • @shinevisionsv
    @shinevisionsv6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work!

  • @walterbunn280
    @walterbunn2806 жыл бұрын

    This is pretty interesting and kinda touches on somethings I've been curious about for a bit. The fact that they're diamagnetic is good to know. This makes the lightsaber i've been poking at much more possible. I need an AC signal to do it. not just a DC signal, which will launch/deflect the flame.

  • @shivamtyagi99
    @shivamtyagi995 жыл бұрын

    Well explained. Loved it

  • @skuzlebut82
    @skuzlebut826 жыл бұрын

    Those are some nice electromagnets. You can see the coils contracting when you connect them.

  • @ralphreilly2434
    @ralphreilly24346 жыл бұрын

    Hey that was pretty cool experiment keep up the good work it's how we get educated

  • @hyperexplorer5355
    @hyperexplorer53553 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation.

  • @00Skyfox
    @00Skyfox6 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating! You should try this with a hydrogen flame so the exhaust is pure water vapor, no carbon at all.

  • @gigglysamentz2021
    @gigglysamentz20216 жыл бұрын

    Well played, good science !

  • @jaybingham3711
    @jaybingham37116 жыл бұрын

    You, sir, are hereby bestowed a great big, heartfelt South Park...NIIICCCEEEEE

  • @RobertSzasz
    @RobertSzasz6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for adding the light to show when the magnet is powered

  • @BartJBols
    @BartJBols6 жыл бұрын

    This is some really good stuff

  • @Muzkaw
    @Muzkaw6 жыл бұрын

    Hi, can you give the brand and make of your thermal camera please ? The resolution looks quite good compared to the flir or seek phone cams. I'll film the reaction of hot air inside a high magnetic field with my schlieren system once you explain how you make your powerful electromagnets.

  • @vinayramasesh2959
    @vinayramasesh29595 жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal video, thank you

  • @frollard
    @frollard6 жыл бұрын

    Crazy as always. Love learning even if learning of a mystery. Hypothesis: it isn't the fact that the various hot/cold/ionized gasses are hot/cold/ionized but in fact is just that they are moving. something something right hand rule. Quantum eddy currents :D

  • @LimitlessResearch
    @LimitlessResearch6 жыл бұрын

    Great setup! A few comments have already mentioned it, but the candle flame is a form of plasma which contains ions. Ions are deflected by magnetism.

  • @midsummerstation3345

    @midsummerstation3345

    6 жыл бұрын

    Limitless Research ions are also attracted by magnets

  • @Alexander_Sannikov
    @Alexander_Sannikov6 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry Cody, but this is the best channel on youtube.

  • @jordangipson1125
    @jordangipson11256 жыл бұрын

    Im excited for the video on magnetics! Great vid, Ben! I know this probably wouldn’t happen, but if you, Cody from Codys Lab, NightHawkInLight, Thought Emporium, Destin from Smarter Everyday, and The Action Lab could do one massive collaboration project, I think that would be awesome for us brainy types and may break KZread! It would be really cool to see what so many great minds would come up with! Keep it up, man!

  • @zyxzevn
    @zyxzevn6 жыл бұрын

    Nice finding of the diamagnetism. And testing of paramagnetism. This effect is also caused by the magnetic braking effect caused by eddy-currents in plasma. The magnetic field brakes the plasma. Just like a magnet dropping in the copper tube.

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