I do agree with your placement of the deathgripper the only reason I think it’s in the strike class is because of it being able to keep up with toothless in the movie

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

fair enough, to be honest I didn't really have strong arguments, I did it more for snsistance of the series

@ennardsbutters6623

2 жыл бұрын

In sod I have a titan death gripper

@user-ny4jw6yq5l

2 жыл бұрын

And probably that "stinger" requiring pin point accuracy

@ennardsbutters6623

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ny4jw6yq5l mmmmmm true

@shaunnakachuk

2 жыл бұрын

I think the deathgripper should be in the tracker class because of their sence of hearing and smelling and intelligence that could be used for tracking down people that escaped a prison or a wanted people and could also be used for security reasons

I think the triple strike meets the pinpoint accuracy criteria, cause it’s main attacking method is it’s tail, which is an attack with pinpoint accuracy.

@aweanimate5161

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t think it can shoot anything though the tail is it’s best and probably only weapon

@tyrannicproductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@aweanimate5161 it's forearm claws and tail should be long enough that most things that it would encounter would be overwhelmed, not to mention, it's fire breath is fairly narrow, still need some precision to actually hit things

@aweanimate5161

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrannicproductions Sorry that was before I found out more about the triple stryke

@monke9084

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I also thought. It might be in strike because it was an example of strike in it's melee capabilities, like a boxer that strikes fast and precise.

@GumdroptheFurryYT

Жыл бұрын

Its tail basically NEEDS pinpoint accuracy if it's to hit something

honestly the strike class seems to be dragons that are tactical apexes. not meant to be too tanky, staying light on it's fight and striking fast and accurately. kind of like humans, except we tried all that agility and tactical power for more brain power. the strike class usually has abilities that are widely feared and not found in many other dragons outside of the class. the strike class basically has the food chain placing of some big cats, felines, mustelids and raptors, but more towards the mustelids and birds of prey, essentially being a glass cannon or a compact super agile apex.

@OtachiKaiju68

Жыл бұрын

That I would agree on, pretty interesting to describe them as that :p

@zzodysseuszz

8 ай бұрын

When you compare us to our Neanderthal ancestors and cousins we gave up all that sheer strength for massive intelligence and endurance. We have the best endurance out of any animal in the animal kingdom because of our advanced cardiovascular system and self cooling efficiency.

@thosebloodybadgers8499

8 ай бұрын

​@@zzodysseuszzaren't the Neanderthals comparable in intelligence to other early humans? Hell, they were so compatible, they interbred, maybe to the point of literally screwing Neanderthals out of the gene pool. Really doesn't seem like the comparison.

Am I the only one who thinks Dagur would love to have a Deathgripper?

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

probably XD

@theorcapuppet4653

2 жыл бұрын

I still wished that Dagur got himself a Skrill.

@orinaoz8686

2 жыл бұрын

naw

@flamepelt3092

2 жыл бұрын

@@theorcapuppet4653 I do too, would've been a perfect way to finish his arc, have him free a captive skrill, possibly even the one he had captive and then befriend it.

@hjart6751

2 жыл бұрын

He would but he loves shattermaster more

The moment they showed the Skrill become a lightning bolt, it just made it one of the coolest dragon in the series

"Vice like" refers to the mechanic of one jaw being stationary while the other jaw applies pressure (kind of like a nut cracker). Which all of the mentioned dragons have and most type of dragons don't.

Also technically "songwing" was one name that they thought of in the episode for the Deathsong, so maybe its just like a prototype for the Deathsong and the writers just left it in, doubt it tho

@maple_boi3622

2 жыл бұрын

In the dumbass baby show there's a movie with an actual songwing in it

@ShadowFox1412

Жыл бұрын

actually on the app its a subspecies of deathsong

I love the way the Dragons are named. They's all so simple. Usually involving a basic identifying detail or warning, prefixed or suffixed by either the word "wing" or "death"

@averagegamer-mx1of

Ай бұрын

That's most animals in like Greek and or Latin also just any more recent discovery

I've dedicated way too much of my life to analysing and classifying all the dragons into different categories on a family tree as realistically to real-life biology and taxonomy as possible. I think it's rather obvious from looking at them that the Triple Stryke and Deathgrippers are closely related and very physiologically similar. Both have the same amount of limbs, a venomous stinging tail, and scorpion-like forelimbs. Looking at it from a realistically biological point of view, it seems they would have the same common ancestor and would belong together in the same family, in this case Stryke.

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

That's really cool, for the longest time I've been wanting to make a family tree video for all the dragons. And make a poster out of it.

@yissibiiyte

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca I've actually done exactly that. I've drawn up an entire family tree of every single dragon species, how the different species are related, how the different classes are related, etc... I have way too much time on my hands 😅

@MrBrightshadow1

2 жыл бұрын

@@yissibiiyte Share plz

@yissibiiyte

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBrightshadow1 I would love to, but how exactly? I've got a massive family tree written out. Don't know how I can share it to you

@lykiaookami6070

2 жыл бұрын

@@yissibiiyte dropbox or something? upload it as a pdf or something

dont you think its very weird that the deathsong only has the "og" dragons around it when we see it in the "fridge" as i like to call it, there should be more types of dragons there

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

Yeh

A dragon that cannot fly is like a house fly without wings. It’s debatable what they should be called at that point

@Golden12500

2 жыл бұрын

Then what are Speed Stingers, Cavern Crashers, and Silkspanners?

@cyborgmonday4817

2 жыл бұрын

My headcanon is that the difference between dragons and regular reptiles is that dragons are warm-blooded and most have a breath weapon of some sort, but the Groncicle apparently has liquid nitrogen for blood so...

@Cloudey-puffo

2 жыл бұрын

Thay aren't even dragons

@shadowslime3640

2 жыл бұрын

Drakes

@bluesteno64

2 жыл бұрын

Known as drakes by some.

I'd put Deathgrippers on the mystery class do to the fact that they have most assets that are of multiple classes.

The reason i think the Deathgripper are placed in Strike Class is due to their Myriad of Weapons and Tools that synergize well with the Dragon plus also the Danger they pose

The skrill is the most badass dragon in my opinion it is as fast as a nightfury if not faster looks cooool and can ride lightning like what

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

yeh it is very cool!

@babil3185

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca wait u actually replied thx and ur content is pretty funny ima follow u

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

@@babil3185 Of course I can reply, always have time for people who watch. Although it may not be immediately. Also thanks for the kind words :)

@babil3185

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca no problem 😁

@kaciek6893

2 жыл бұрын

I would’ve loved a skrill

I would like to nitpick, for the skrill’s placement the stats show when it’s **on lightning** not travelling in it, atleast i believe what it means is when it’s a storm it’s speed increases when it’s using lightning as the direct medium for movement it enhances beyond what they can measure

I understand what you're saying about the vice-like drawstrings but we also have to remember that this is a kid show at heart and it's pretty difficult to show how effective that jaw strength is without somebody losing a limb

@fishkittywhiskers5433

Жыл бұрын

yeah when i was watching the series, i felt like they seriously low-balled toothless' strenght at times to keep it kid-friendly. his firepower alone fluctuated from explosive destruction to not even setting off any spark on plain wood.

The skrill and the triple stryke are my favourite strike class dragons

Strike class dragons are known for being the most deadly dragons out there so I agree with all of the choices and think that they should add the screaming death

I feel like maybe most times that toothless has missed a target he wasn’t trying to hit it, just trying to scare it off (he seems like he would do that, too kind to need to hurt the dragon)

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

oh yeh, it is most likely that. tbh i don't think he has never really missed a intentional shot, I'm just saying it as a bit.

Hey! fun fact! Any dragon can go into alpha mode, as confirmed by one of the creators of httyd

I think the deathgripper should be in both sharp and strike class bc they have strike class dragon abilities and sharp class abilities. For the night fury they should be in fear class too bc they turn up when you least expect them and bc they are so sneaky, steathly and silent

believe alpha mode can be used by all dragons as long as the previous alpha dragon either have it to that dragon or they lost it to them by someone worthy of it

@LordGlacier7

Жыл бұрын

If that was the case then shouldn't Toothless have it after killing the Red Death

@bloodangel19

8 ай бұрын

​@@LordGlacier7and he does. It just took a while for him to learn he has it

My limited knowledge on the classes has always been like the most defining features. I always thought strikers were fast, deadly, essentially the embodiment of a strafing run from a plane. I think your choices were pretty spot on.

I feel like deathgrippers could be strike class if it was not constantly high on it’s own venom

I think the death gripper belongs in the mystery class, purely because of its body type and fire type. But it could easily fit both striker and mystery

Actually, according to dreamworks the nightlights do have alpha mode! Same with the light fury, this is represented in School of Dragons, which is an official dreamworks game. (though do take it with a grain of salt, there's a lot that seems to bend the universe of HTTYD in SOD)

I'm pretty sure what they mean by vice grip jaws is less their ability to bite through things and more, so having a very strong grip and jaw control.

Triple Stryke my favourite

2 things Will u be going over there over classes ? And will u be willing to make videos on some individual dragons ?

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh, I plan on creating videos on all the classes, and indiivual dragons. I just dont have a lot of time. I really need an editor

@mightyandray7260

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca oh that’s great! I’m new to your channel so I didn’t know what this was about! If you want an idea, stoker is kind of my favourite class.

“A snake, a scary scary snake” He says, displaying this, 14:34, adorable noodle

Make more dragons orca ! Loving it

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

thank you very much!

Nothing like learning about the amazing strike class dragons,so that's pretty dope Also I wish you a good day. Also out of all the Strike class,I love the Triple Tails( I definitely misspelled it's name )

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, I wish you a good day as well. And the Triple Stryke is pretty cool

@kitsuneWC

2 жыл бұрын

Triple strykes are scorpion dragons with 3 tails lol very creative

@Gorgosauruslibra

Жыл бұрын

@@kitsuneWC it is

@kitsuneWC

Жыл бұрын

@@Gorgosauruslibra yeah ik they are cool

@Gorgosauruslibra

Жыл бұрын

@@kitsuneWC yeah they are

NewOrca - Is everyone a bloody nightfury!! I laughed so hard

3:51 My guess for Light Furies probably would have a lot of common similarities since if Night Furies are the dominant species (idk if dominant is the right term here but gonna roll with it), I assume that the Night Furies and Light Furies share a lot of similarities like both could camouflage in their surroundings and able to use their “fire” to get a boost from the weather. Although it’s unclear if the light furies could split their spines like the night furies since the light fury we did see looks like she has more of a solid spine compared to Toothless but it’s still likely since both Night Furies and Light Furies seems closely related to possibly have this ability. (But I could be wrong here)

I think the songwing is a cousin to the deathsong, It being smaller but faster. I imagine it luring in prey with melodies and then striking from above. Hiding in trees and cliffs waiting for the prey to be at the right spot before quickly diving down at the unsuspecting creature. It would use its wings glide more often than properly flying, so living in forests with tall trees would be ideal habitat for them.

in a spinoff, the songwing actually had a voice that could be trained to woo other species as well as other songwings.

Actually, if the tail slap knocks out a man as strong as Keegan, it’s not that bAd.

I think the deathgripper's fit in better with the mystery class as the mystery class has dragons that either don't fit in a particular class or fit in multiple classes to a unusual degree

Actually.. I gotta agree with him on Hiccup being from the future. I mean look at the weapons hes made. As a kid he made a shield that has a grapple hook and can shift into a crossbow, he made a retractable fire sword that holds zippleback gas and a lighter built in, he made his wing suit, he made Toothless a new tail wing, several in fact. I mean seriously these vikings use standard weaponry such as axes, maces and swords and etc. But hiccup has made more sofistiscated weaponry, gadgets, and tools. I mean he even found ways to use the dragons to help the villagers with crops, fishing, forging and etc. However this wouldn't make sense since we see Hiccup was Born in berk so how can he be from the future? Truth is he's not, but it's possible he might be the son OF a time traveler. Introducing Valka, the mother of Hiccup and wife and Stoick. We don't know much about her, but we do know that she and stoick fell in love, eventually married and had a son. From dragons 2 we see where Hiccup had inherited his intellect and love of dragons. Valka has a staff that she can use to communicate with dragons by using the holes in her staff to make different sounds that allows her to communicate with both dragons and the Bewilderbeast. How do we know she's from the future? Well for one not much is known about her and according to Gobber he quotes "Her Meatballs could kill a gronkle" implying that Valka knows how to make meatballs which isn't known in the Era of vikings and exist in the further future. Meaning that she has to be from the future. So In conclusion Hiccup is the son of stoick the vast AND Valka the time traveler, stuck in the oast with no way home and has to make do with her new life

@caradzuris3810

2 жыл бұрын

httyd is really not that deep. it would completely ruin the vibe that the movies and series involving hiccup has created and just doesn't make sense. this is a completely different universe than the one we live in so it's 100% possible that they are the ones who created these items or that someone before them had these ideas. that and hiccup didn't know his mother and intelligence and hobbies aren't genetic and he was too young to even know what she looked like let alone that she liked dragons because she didn't even tell stoic before leaving.

Late to the party here, but this is a fascinating, well put together video, and I look forward to binging this series

Bro the triple stryke is awesome like imagine riding one and using it to fight your enemies

Lokstin reference ? I'm here for it

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeh!

a nightfury and a lightfury getting together would be like a azure Rathalos and a rathian getting together in monster hunter

Well I can say this not only the triple strike looks like a Pokémon but also a kaiju when you look at it’s features

@Garryzilla

Жыл бұрын

See the triple strike has gomora’s head crest and horns and I’m not sure if there’s a kaiju with a triple scorpion tail but it has the crustacean-like pincers like alien baltan or ganimes or ebirah but if anyone knows a scorpion kaiju with three stingers tell me now

i feel like the triple strike would be way more fitting as a sharp class instead of strike class IMO

YESSSS!!!!!! Finally a KZreadr who knows the difference between poison and venom.

Your points on the deathgrippers it makes sense and my favorite category of the dragons are strike , sharp and tracker

The skrill when riding lightning is undoubtably the fastest dragon in the franchise

This is incredible my man, I'm gonna watch them all

You’re such a legend for this

All I’m gonna say is the Skrill is without a doubt the single coolest and most intimidating dragon to ever be introduced to this series

Anyone else think the Lavender Skrill should be a Mystery-class due to the scent-based hunting tactics?

As I’m a fan of both httyd and lockstin I’m so very glad you made this and I hope you can find the time to make the other classes too but well done and take the time you need aha :)

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!! I'm currently writing the next one! And similar to lockstin, going into origins and details about specific dragons in other videos!

yesss your back

Sweet vid man!!!👍

Not gonna lie, your videos about yhe dragon classes are fire. Haha. Get it? No ok my fault.

you know what's funny? there's actually an easter egg in the first movie, hiccup has a drawing of the flux capacitor on his wall

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

your gonna make me look now aren't you....

@Permafrost7767

11 ай бұрын

@@NewOrca late reply, but it's in the scene where stoic gives hiccup his new helmet, the drawing is on the wall in the corner, right by a lit candle

I found your channel 2 videos ago. Now your making Pointless references. New favourite channel aquired...

I love you videos because i grew up with How to Train Your Dragon 😊😊

Please do more of these !!!!!!

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Im working in it XD

As somebody who never got into this series before, but is doubling back now, this is a great way to build my investment into the series. Thank you for many great videos. Also you said splitting splines when talking about the light fury lol

0:17 STOICK THE VVVVAAASSSTTTT

It has Been a bit since i watched how to train your dragon, should rewatch it 😅

But the Swiftwing from Rescue Riders is too much like the Night Fury, Light Fury, and Night Lights. Speaking of which, the main dragon character from The Nine Realms is a Night Light, so take that into account please. Also, Snow Wraiths are also bipedal.

@Sightvibrations

2 жыл бұрын

We don't talk about the nine realms..... and that's also why he probably didn't include the Swiftwing

@maddenboseroy4074

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sightvibrations I think you mean Rescue Riders, which is where the Swiftwing ACTUALLY is from.

@Sightvibrations

2 жыл бұрын

@@maddenboseroy4074 yes I know that. I was saying in addition to us not talking about nine realms he probably didn't mention Swiftwing because he is basically blue ripoff toothless

the one with the three spike tails (deathgripper?) dosn't it look like it could be a pokemon?

I agree with the triple strike of either staying or becoming a sharp class but the deathgrippers is sorta 50/50 for mystery or tracker, they fit perfectly in the mystery class but also are perfect hunters and trackers

1:33 always that description of the nightfury would fit much better with the skrill

Thank you mate

I'd say Deathgrippers belong in many different classes tbh, Sharp, Strike, And very loosely mystery

my favourite dragons in the whole serious are a) skrill b) triple stryke and that's it

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Only those two? Not even the Nightfury?

@solar_9878

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca yeah, the noght fury’s design is kind of over used and not super special, its features are found iin other dragons, however ypu dont see a dragon shooting lightning or a deagon with three scorpion tails, i definitely like the night fury, but i dont like it enough for it to become a favourite of mine, i know people love it for its personality, but i feel its a bit overrated, like all main characters of a show it grabs a lot of attention, if i had to make a top 10 list i would put the night fury in, 3rd place, i love it more than a lot of the others but its design just doesn’t cut it for me

I guess this is where the Discworldian Noble Dragon goes. Giant, quadruped, likes sleeping on piles of gold. Basically, it's gone extinct except for individuals stuck in a weird pocket dimension where they're packed in like sardines.

We need more!!!!!!

4:42 well, now we know a lot about them. They're a social species. Some of them can shoot lightning powerful enough to rival that of a Titan wing skrill. And the older they are, the more difficult it is to reason with one unless both your and its life are in danger.

I like this wonder if you going to make more

I only realised that the slithersong and deaths on are the same thing the death song is a dragon form the slithersong species I figured that out from playing rise of berk it helps a lot.

@jeremyfong5684

Жыл бұрын

The slithersong is a subspecies of Deathsong

Loved it when he said Stoic the Varsssst

We think the term 'vice-like jaws" is supposed to mean a quick, swift bite, which fits a class known for their speed

What requirements would a flightless dragon require to be strike class?

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

probably speed and manuverability

@alejandramunoz2735

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it flies like a flying snake? And it has to have insane reflexes and maneuvering ability, maybe fire power on the side just for good measure

@MoorSlider

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca that means the speed stingers are strike class

7:21 caught me off guard that was a great cut

3:50 "We don't know if they have SPLITTING SPLINES"

I think that for some of the later dragons, fire isn’t their primary attack but rather it is their tail, which is built for precise piercing shots similar to a scorpion.

I love it so much 💞💞💞

the way this guy says stoik the vast is just perfect

Imagine sound fury or something like that

So lockstin inspiring

9:13 Don't forget that the Skrill hiccup and toothless fought with was frozen in ice for 3 Years!!!

A few things: I'm not sure which interview or book it was in, but it was said that it is canon that any dragon can become an alpha in the way that Toothless did (through extreme instinct to protect) Adding on to that, in School of Dragons, all 3 of the Nightlights have alpha skins, and if you want to count the Nine Realms as canon, Thunder "went alpha mode" too (on the Nadders) The Wooly Howl actual does not have fur, they are just large, fine scales

Also, Toothless is a Tracker Class, Stoker Class (only seen in The Hidden World), and a Strike Class. Plus, The Light Fury is very Scared of teh Hoomans/Humans, and Triple Stryke is just a Deadly Nadder but with a purple and yellow color scheme and 3 Tails.

I'm surprised you didnt mention that the Skrill was at one point a concept for toothless, but was deemed too scary lol. Maybe that was just a rumor back in the day? And Im shocked that cloudjumper isn't in this class, it seems to fit these requirements :0 Either way, so glad you made such a nice couple of vids. I agree the death grip should be mystery, and triple strike feels very weird to be strike lol.

Hiccup: I would never hurt a dragon Also Hiccup: *Turns Red Death into a nuke*

I feel like strike class would have 2 groups within them that have most of the similarities but one main difference: Attack Style Group 1: High energy blasts; The main difference between this and the other grouping would be the main way they attack, this uses the high energy blasts, ex. Skrill, Night Fury, Snow Wraith etc. Group 2: Quick and hard hitting; these dragons would be in this class because of their high speed and their powerful and quick attacks, such as those done by the triple stryke. The strike class would not be changes fully, but it would give room for new dragons to be put in this fairly small class, dragons that are intelligent, have powerful bites, and have an attack or attacks that hit hard very quickly, this is the definition that I would use, which makes speedstingers a close fit into it, but they lack the higher intelligence that is required to be in this class (like being able to be truly tamed around humans)

I hope you can do more of these

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

I'm currently editing the next one!

@ryanwhorf6665

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca oh sweet!

Death griper could easily be a mystery aswell as tracker or sharp but strike is still a decent fit for it

6:43 "they are all night fury's?" Always has been

Stoic the Vast was a chad. An actual chad of a viking.

I have some what of a theory on how the skrill shoots lightning. With a watery mist! It uses some type of liquid mist stored in its body then channels the electricity to allow it to travel in one direction. This can be best explained in the short for the book of dragons when the skrill is spraying a bright, white mist. This is just a theory tho and I am not 100% aware with how electric currents work. 🤷‍♂️

Do this for httyd how every dragon in the world went to the hidden world and lived under toothlesses rule together

almost all of the dragons: have enviroments that make some sense like oceans or forests and so on skrill: lives in literal storm clouds and thunder

@testerwulf3357

9 ай бұрын

It does make sense. It lives in storm clouds, those are constantly moving so it migrates a lot to different environments; it's a very adaptable dragon and likely lives mostly around the ocean as lots of storms happen there

The thumbnail and title reminded me of Lockstin & Gnoggins series about every types pokemon

I think that the songwing was use in one of the dragon rescue Rider movies like the mean dragon of one of then is called a songwing