Little mistake on my end! Windgnashers tend to have more of a icy blast attack. We don't see them use their fire power in the films, so the only reference we do have are the games, where they have the blast! (doesn't change their positioning in the video) I glossed over the firepower quite a bit as it wasn't to relveant to the dragons beeing Tracker, but thats not excuse for sloppy research. May bad :) Thanks to people for leting me know!

@jonathonsirlord8251

Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for Fear and mystery class

@Imthekingoftheworld-io8uj

11 ай бұрын

Deadly nadders are actually in both classes and who said nadders ain’t also sharp I mean sharp class symbols is a deadly nadder and the deadly nadders fire helped on the dragon eye to show sharp class dragons

I’m not even joking when I say that during the height of my httyd obsession I redid the entire classification system for all the dragons because I was so mad that they didn’t make any sense lmao. So seeing someone with similar opinions and complaints makes me way happier than it probably should….

@Afeef_Adams

2 жыл бұрын

so i wasnt the only one that was stupidly opsessed with httyd a few years ago

@Ferril21

2 жыл бұрын

I was the same xd. I had notebook that served as book of dragons to me and i changed some dragon classes, created my own dragons, made maps like Hiccup in the second movie and stuff like that. Yeah and i deleted tracker class because it didn't make sence to me that their only characteristic was that they are good hunters.

@thatmoththoth

2 жыл бұрын

i mean i think it works, you know why? because back in the viking area they had STUPID classification systems, so it makes sense for the vikings to miss clasify these dragons.

@NianJKL

2 жыл бұрын

Where is it if I may ask? It'd be neat to see it if you still have it.

@notapeopleperson6761

2 жыл бұрын

I never stopped being obsessed. Other obsessions were just added to me.

Personally I think Nadders should be both Tracker and Sharp class cause who says dragons can only have one class

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

tru

@dragonkingeeveegen1484

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca heck once I wrote down my information on every Httyd at the time and I made Nadders Tracker and Sharp class, I did similar things with other dragons changing their class if the one they had didn’t fit them

@solar_9878

2 жыл бұрын

i get confused in what class they are in, jusg mane them both

@keru6925

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Nadders are literally the definition of sharp class

@jamesmedalla7043

2 жыл бұрын

Yo it should be like Pokemon with two types!

Personally I’m 100% ok with like a 45+ min episode or a 2 part special for the mystery class instead of making the segments shorter.

@starcycle4308

2 жыл бұрын

AGREED I need more hour-long+ videos about HTTYD, and a specific class would be ✨✨✨

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to, but I'm thinking about I need to get them out. My last hour long video took 3 months to make. we'll see what happens :) (knowing me I'll get carried away with the writing)

I think it would've been cool if the THUNDERclaw had electrosense like a platypus

@FlintsForge6931

2 жыл бұрын

YES

@kyrosrexlaghayon1459

Жыл бұрын

That really makes sense if they are called thunderclaw if not they should be called stalkclaw or something that does not involve thunder cause it doesn’t really make sense but since I’m not the devs I respect their decision

Personally, I think the Tracker class itself is absolutely meaningless, with the criteria for it being way too vague, and the fact they tossed the Deadly Nadder in there who is meant to be the poster-child of the Sharp class is just downright stupid.

I think the best answer is to keep the original class system as shown from the first movie, to classify based on their biology, habitat and hunting strategy, and add a secondary class system based on what they are good at as tamed dragons, like tracking. The secondary classes would be a lot like how dogs are classified based on their old jobs they were bred for like herding, hunting, and companion dogs. Or with race horses vs work horses.

@xaviermize4509

Жыл бұрын

That is a pretty good idea

I don’t know why but I love the Snifflehunch. Just something about it made it my second favourite dragon right behind the Hobblegrunt.

@wreylax6068

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah snifflehunch is one the cutest dragons ever

@omegon2540

2 жыл бұрын

I started liking it because the name But it is way more op than it seems

@bingumythob9036

Жыл бұрын

the hobblegrunt is my second favorite dragon :))

Honestly I don’t even think the tracker class needs to exist it’s more of a sub class then a full blown one in my opinion

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh, it needs a little more work

I think it would make sense if dragons weren't limited to one class. Like deadly nadders would be classified as Sharp-Trackers.

Getting rid of the fear class and replacing it with the Tracker Class is the dumbest thing to ever happen to the HTTYD series before it ended Especially in the sense of which dragons were moved as a result. - The Deadly Nadder is the FLAGSHIP of Sharp Class Dragons. I don't care how many games of fetch you play with Stormfly, that change is stupid. - The Hideous Zippleback is the FLAGSHIP of the FEAR Class. Being in the mystery class makes no sense, especially when we already know how the Zippleback works. gas + spark = BOOM. And no, having 2 heads does not justify being a mystery class. - The Snaptrapper should stay in the fear class as it's just a zippleback on steroids If you want to make the bullcrap excuse of the Fear class disappearing because the Vikings are no longer scared of the dragons due to training them. JUST BECAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE TO TRAIN A DRAGON DOES NOT JUSTIFY NOT BEING SCARED OF ONE, ESPECIALLY MORE DANGEROUS DRAGONS LIKE THE FLIGHTMARE, SPEED STINGER, AND WHISPERING DEATH. And hell, just have the frickin Rumblehorn be the flagship of the Tracker Class, as that's the dragon that prompted Hiccup to make a tracker class.

@GuyWithAGreatsword

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@wreylax6068

2 жыл бұрын

I strongly disagree

@FlintsForge6931

2 жыл бұрын

look , I think mystery class is like the "where the feck is this going to go?" "eh mystery , it fits no other class" , so its basically a left over if it cant fit anywhere else , yeet it into mystery

@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlintsForge6931 FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

@Shadowninja820

7 ай бұрын

@GorjiraFan-in9oo I agree. And these dragons would fit perfectly with fear class. 1. hideous zippleback 2. Snaptrapper 3. Slither wing 4. Speed stinger 5. Sandbuster 6. Night terror 7. Shadow wing 8. Hobgobbler

you should do a theory on how all the dragons live in peace in the hidden world like screaming death and huge tidal dragons and skrill

If any one knows one of the dragons in hidden world is tracker A rock eating hard shelled squat crystal horned lava spewing dragon called a gem breaker is a tracker class because it has good hearing

I'm glad that this series is back and this video was pretty great.

Even the School of Dragons game had mudraker as a tidal class originally, but for some reason its tracker now? I wouldn’t blame them either for thinking it was a tidal class. I mean.. look at it!

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair when the Moldruffle initially released it said that was tidal as well.

Can't wait for you to talk about the stoker class and how they are supposed to be the best with fire but they are the only ones who can 'run out' of fire like????

This was just a huge knowledge dump and I love it! And I see where you’re getting it with moldruffle I always thought it was a stoker class never a tracker class dragon anyway this video was incredible! Keep up the spectacular work!

I'm still more than a little annoyed that Nadder got randomly re-classed as a tracker in like.. the THIRD movie.. For the longest time, there was no indication of a Nadder having a particularly noteworthy sense of smell. I'd say it's safe to say that it's quite similar to most non-Tracker class dragon senses of smell (ignoring the third movie entirely for now because I'm not done complaining about inconsistency.) It doesn't make sense for it to still be the symbol of Sharp class if it's now Tracker class, further throwing a wrench in these issues it has. And finally, if Nadders were as good at smelling as they've been alleged to be, why was Stormfly struggling to find the trainees in the maze Gobber set up in the very first movie? If she were truly a Tracker, it would've been easy for her to pinpoint their location and rush over, then keep tracking them if they moved until she eventually overwhelmed them. But no, she had to be _smart_ and cheat the maze to find anyone, of her own ability at least, I don't count smelling/hearing the Twins at point blank. And that's another thing, how did she NOT know the Twins were right in front of her (until they started making noise)? Are they saying that a Nadder can't recognize prey unless they've seen it first? Point-blank, she knows what Vikings smell like, the scent would be at its most powerful, so why in the world would she have _not_ attacked at that point?

I love the idea of the tracker class, and it conceptually makes sense, it’s weakness just comes from being established so late in the franchise. Like you said, there is a lot of class overlap with tracker and the others, because it was added after all of the other classes which already included dragons with sensory abilities. If it had been created at the start then it could carve out a more firm set of characteristics, Night Furies wouldn’t get echolocation and Tracker would get to distinguish itself from the others. I also think the pain of this class is brought on by fundamental issues with the class system, which is kinda arbitrary. It’s based on “abilities” held by dragons, which is very loose but admittedly fitting for the shows time period. But the traits of each class just don’t make sense. Tidal class dragons aren’t distinguished for their abilities, but their habitat. So we’ve already broken the system Sharp class is defined by “spikes”, which is similarly a trait that most dragons have. The wiki mentions them all having venom but that blatantly isn’t true, Timberjacks, Hackatoo, and Eggbiters are all sharp class and they have no semblance of venom. And if venom was a defining trait, then why are Slitherwings mystery? The other trait of sharp is “vainness”, which is a anthropomorphic trait that non-human animals can’t comprehend (plenty of animals preen and clean themselves, but that isn’t because they’re vain). Stoker class dragons are distinguished for their fire, something that most dragons have. Stokers are just “more fiery” i guess, but that’s totally subjective. Nadder’s have the hottest fire of any dragon, why aren’t they Stoker? And don’t get me started on Strike and Mystery TLDR: Tracker Class doesn’t work, but that isn’t its fault. It was added too late into an already miserably flawed system

You said Submaripper and my immediate reaction was 'hey isn't it Tidal Class though -?'

Nice work man can’t wait to see ones for the rest of the classes

"[The Windgnasher's] firepower is shooting small round balls of fire." I'm afraid that's incorrect. The Windgnasher is an ice dragon, its firepower being an icy blizzard blast. Its firepower was never seen in the films, but its frosty breath has been detailed in the games 'Dragons: Rise of Berk' and 'Dragons: Titan Uprising'. Not sure why the wiki steered you wrong here, guess it needs some correcting.

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeh completly missed that. I didn't pay to much attention to firepower, as it's not to relvant for the Tracker Class

I love that a trait of the tracker class is that most of them are really bulky and tank-like without resembling the boulder class too much

love this series this is the reason why i subbed to you and i’m really glad that your continuing it

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh! I want to others like all the fire type explained and looking at specific dragons origins and abilities

Could you do sharp next? sorry if you mentioned a specific order somewhere i must have missed it :)

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, there's no order :)

love this series keep it up man

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Submarippers have a bit of tracking, one could easily sense the vibrating knife when it was dropped into the water in race to the edge.

In Crushing It, Skullcrusher detected the earthquake which caused the tsunami. Rumblehorns are sensitive to vibrations, which is how Skullcrusher also knew when the riders where tracking him

As someone who LOVED the lockstin series and is constantly hyper fixating on httyd thank you

Apparently the reason the Submaripper is a Tracker Class is because they can detect small vibrations in the water to hunt for prey. However, like you said for the Mudraker, it makes for sense still for a Tracker.

If i'm not mistaken Toothless is actually also a good tracker since he can throw some plasma waves and it's like an echo location. Not sure what is that all i know is him hiccup were being chased and toothless used that to escape.

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

Toothless can use a form of echolocation like bats, sending sound waves out that bounce back to the user, enabling to navigate in areas where they cant see well.

I love this series and cant wait for more but dont feel pressured to make these vidoes at a set time frame and it would be fine to have the bigger classes like mystery to be multiple parts

Yesss, Tracker Class is one of my favorites

5:48 My Favourite Part Of the Whole Video XD

YEEESS HES BACK AND ANOTHER PHENOMENAL VIDEO LOVE IT SO MUCH AND I CANT WAIT FIR THE NEXT ONE KEEP IT UP!!

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 😊

This was very entertaining and informative on dragons. Been a long time since I saw some HTTYD content. Very much looking forward to more videos.

Deadly Nadder is my second-favourite dragon in HTTYD after the Night Fury (obviously). I mean come on, they are basically big scaly birbs, and they like being stroked and cuddled with! Just look at Stormfly, she's so precious!

I love the prehistoric park reference

I have been waiting for this

I really love this!!!! Keep it up (also I for enjoy all the puns haha)

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Pls keep up the good work and this whole series

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Means a lot :)

The lockstin like tumbnail made me interested Nd the video made me subscribe good job

this vd was informativeand entertaining. love it

2:52 that's very accurate because both were mistaken in being the problems but were the solutions

I loved the way you changed your voice xD

The submaripper can sense vibrations in the water to sense anything and everything in the water

Love the edits

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's a big part of the video and it feels like it gets underappreciated :)

Not gonna lie, this was pretty cool sir...you can tell the hard work you put into your content..thanks for that

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Out of all the parts of the thunderclaw the only thing o thought and said out loud is “no, it’s “num num cookie”, not yum yum cookie” 😂

I love this content, first time here and the jokes caught me so offguard, and I loved it! Great content

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

I can’t wait for more videos in this series

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

I'm currently writing the next one XD

@stonebrick1562

Жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca the feeling I just felt was equivalent to the feeling of taking a $1 out of your pocket only to find out it’s actually a $20

New Tracker class description: This is the second most intelligent class of dragons known to be the friendliest of all, with a strong sense of smell and/or keen eyesight

0:52 😆😆 I loved it when that insult was still popular

I remember when I was a dragons nerd. God I got to re-watch that movie/ show

I missed it when the tracker class was once fear class 😢.

i cant wait for mystery class

Gobber you are nuts in that episode

Make more of these

The mystery class is what used to be fear class (changed after vikings stopped fearing dragons) and is useed for dragons that do not fit into the other catagories, and dont have enough dragons with similar characteristics for a class to be made. The tracker class was made after they discovered enough dragons that had an insane sense of smell and an amazing ability to track there prey.

THIS DESERVES WAY MORE LIKES

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

thanks!

are you going to include grapple grounder in the bolder class video?

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Most likely, if its on the list I will include it

“Telling them, Pooie stinky that smells, or Yum Yum Cookie”. -NewOrca 2022

The submaripper can sense tiny changes in the water.

I’m so happy 😃 happy 😆 thank all the love 💗 for the girls 👧 that you have been doing I really do miss seeing your family in your dreams but you know

I wish some had more Tracker abilities. Like if Nadders could track where their spikes end up to find prey they've wounded.

The reason why the summer ripper actually a tracker is because of its sense of vibrations he has shown in the show that is very good at picking up and we'll actually react high levels of intelligence and also able to tell friend from foe based on instinct

i didnt think the designers do this but all these dragons look like they are part of the same evolutionary family. Some of them look like very close relatives too

@NewOrca

Жыл бұрын

That's something I'm going to look into 😉

You really said the Snifflehunch is non unique, then wrote a whole theoretical essay about how it could be one of the most survivable dragons with an incredibly versatile ability

I'd assume that the submaripper was added due to these key details about it, one in the episode where the riders went to see what was up the submaripper seemed to be aware there was a lot of dragons in the area, and yes the scaldron I think is how its pronounced was in the area at the same time but even after it escaped the submaripper continued to use its ability to pull the riders in, although I do also think its a heavy sleeper, bro was sleeping like a rock when they came in the second time and only woke when rocks were flung at it, it also probably had similar sense receptors to the mudrakers, just a lot more, which gave it the ability to notice boats and dragons moving on top of the water from the floor, and considering its size it might have had to be a pretty deep area

Ah yes the poster child for the sharp class isn’t sharp class

there are only two little bits of information I would include. there is a snifflehunch subspecies called the sneezlehunch which sneezes ice instead. not anything defining but a cool detail and the rockstomper/moldruffle can use its horns like a divining rod to find water and probably have a tracking ability like squirrels as they bury things. both are still where you placed them and aside from windgnashers and rumblehorns you could argue every other tracker class could be in some other class instead.

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

that would proabalytt be more approaite for a video on that specific dragon spieces, the fire type isn't to relevant to the reasons why its tracker

@mrgharial

2 жыл бұрын

true. it is not a big difference in the class system being as theres an ice spitting dragon from 3-4 classes.

The purple thunderclaw is named rumpus rumpus my boy😊

9:49 its been a while since I've seen riders/defenders of berk but i think he was riding her because due to some (at the time) undiscovered dragon root, Hookfang and Stormfly kept fighting so Astrid and Snotlout swapped dragons

Please do sharp class next

Tracker class has to be my favorite class. I don’t like most of the dragons in the class, as my favorite dragon is Skrill (xD) but I love their skill set and UNIQUE ABILITIES. Seriously, this class is just amazingly different.

@testerwulf3357

8 ай бұрын

Ability* the only classification of a tracker class dragon is "it smell really well" lol

12:17 Something I’d mind is, knowing from the playing it since launch, outside of certain necessary points, both Rise of Berk and School of Dragons make no sense of canon beyond the first movie what so ever, so I’d say it’s not best to trust them alone. However, since these are really the only sources, I’d say the best guide would be School of Dragons since in comparison to the other game it has more room for explanation of species in the game, plus as seen with varying cases such as the terrible terror, the Stoker class is often used as a mix of Stoker and “all-rounders” as some said to be in it, such as the two species, don’t inherently have distinctive skills or traits which appoint them to a specific class.

i will die on the hill that nadders are sharp class.

tidal next with sand wraith and shockjaw

Maybe lore wise dragons are part of multiple classes at once. For example you could have one that’s both a thunder and fear class.

Imagine the world of how to train your Dragon is in our universe

It might be that nadders are labeled as trackers because that trait is more important to a rider than the sharp spines. Being able to track people or animals would be much more important for a village of people. Thus at first, when it was an enemy, it would be sharp because that's what a person fighting one would need to know, but as the village changed from hunters to riders of dragons and grew to understand the dragon's better, it became tracker.

How in the 9 realms is the submaripper part tracker class

Do the other classes please

16:47 night furies are supposed to use their echolocation to get around, this dragon uses their echolocation to find prey, that would mean he is tracking.

@NewOrca

11 ай бұрын

Still not a strong enough reason. A bunch of tidal class dragons have abilities to track down their prey in the water.

Fun Fact : The Mudbreaker is classed as Stoker in Rise of Berk

There’s this guy on TikTok that does a really good Hiccup impression, it would be awesome to hear him narrate one of these types of videos

100% do mystery next i think they are the best class

Windgnasher breathes out ice btw but nice vid

@wreylax6068

2 жыл бұрын

I think only the champion windgnasher does it

@NewOrca

2 жыл бұрын

That's just one individual. I would've covered it but it wasn't really relevant to why it's tracker

@WhispertheWolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@NewOrca Oof, only saw this after I left my previous comment, sorry. But no, it's not just an individual. Both 'Rise of Berk' and 'Titan Uprising' attribute the whole species with icy breath in the species' various descriptions

@kolmarah

2 жыл бұрын

@@wreylax6068 in titan uprising he breathes out ice and thats with any sub species of the windgnasher including the green one that appeared in the movie

I personally believe the class system gets better if more dragons were in multiple classes

I think submarriper is tracker bc he can detect even smallest move in water

I'm about halfway through the video, and tbh I was expecting this video be all about insulting HTTYD. But I'm actually really impressed and happy about this, thank you for not absolutely trashing HTTYD but making it better!!

@cweepydragon761

2 жыл бұрын

I've finished it, and I think the Submaripper is able to detect disturbances in the water, it being so large I think it would have that sensory organ in it's skin and or able to use echolocation similar to whales. It's skin would also be sensitive to disturbances like when hiccup swam close to it, I was kinda surprised it had noticed him that quickly, and his presence waking him up.

2:52 The rumblehorn probably detected the tsunami the way elephants do. Elephants can sense the vibrations deep down in the earth. Therefore, they know beforehand, even before our sensors know, when an earthquake is coming. Tsunami’s also emit vibrations. When a constant vibration is coming from the ocean, that’s a tsunami and the elephants know when to run and hide. Elephants aren’t the only animals that can do this, but since rumble horns and elephants are the same size, I am guessing they are taken inspiration from.

@testerwulf3357

8 ай бұрын

I think it's sense of smell is also used, it can probably smell the changes in the atmosphere and the water/salt content in the air to figure it out, they're not said to use their feet for anything like sensing vibrations..it could be just never exactly stated they have that ability!

1:21 I didn't know dragons could shoot missiles I thought they shot FIRE BALLS

NOOO NOT THE PREHISTORIC PARK CLIP🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’m still gonna call it fear class no matter what anyone says til my dying days!

Vikings actually often bathed. :D

Fire sneeze sounds funny until you fight an angry "anjanath"

have always thought about the Nader being in sharp and never understanding why they put it into tracker .

Can you please tell me what are the names of these dragons in the movie? 1. The dragon Hiccup distracted with the flaming blade when he landed in the colony of dragons after captured by Valka in HTTYD2. 2. The blue dragons that appear in HTTYD 2 AND 3. You can mainly see them during the introduction of Berk in HTTYD when the vikings cross the road of dragons. 3. Drago’s dragons

YESSSSSSS FINALLY