Just a little companion video to yesterday's upload on my main channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iXx_0ZmfaZzRiqg.html Also, go subscribe to This Is Where You Find Baseball: kzread.info

It is amazing how fast games were in the 90s. In just under 13 minutes Maddix was able to pitch a complete game.

@kennymcnally1576

11 ай бұрын

😂

@richardharp4398

11 ай бұрын

And they didn’t have the pitching clock

@richwhiteman2755

8 ай бұрын

Lol!!!

@waynelaney42

7 ай бұрын

Who is maddix

@janconner2087

7 ай бұрын

It’s also amazing the strike zone that NL umpires had for Maddux too

Yo I love how he wouldn't give Sosa SHIT to hit. The way kept throwing outside to make him reach and neutralize his power as much as possible. One of the greatest pitchers of all time man I freakin miss 90s baseball

@deucedeuce333

Ай бұрын

Lol Yea he ain't getting those calls these days though. That ump was a big reason why this game went the way it did. And I'm a braves fan who grew up watching maddux.

Maddux is arguably the greatest fielding pitcher in MLB history

@user-lu9mm9lc7l

8 ай бұрын

I do not think anyone is even arguing that point. He has the most gold gloves by far.

@Nightwatchman53

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-lu9mm9lc7lnot by far, the next pitcher is only 2 behind him. Jim Kaat had 16..

@patrickeaton9350

6 ай бұрын

Bartolo Colon is up there too

@dedgzus6808

6 ай бұрын

@@patrickeaton9350 That man was a pristine specimen of an athlete.

@Jeff-66

3 ай бұрын

one of the greatest control pitchers also. Oh, and one of the greatest pitchers, period.

I remember the HUGE strike zones he and Glavine got

What a giant strikezone from that ump. Gave him a good 8 inches off the plate

@scotts4726

3 күн бұрын

Eric Gregg?

Man I freakin miss baseball in the 90s ☹️

I find it hilarious that the most iconic Maddux performance doesn’t qualify for a “Maddux”

@biggertonouncertonthethird76

Жыл бұрын

I respect you king. You comment on like every video

@AdministrativeFinance

2 ай бұрын

@@biggertonouncertonthethird76☠️

Dunston is a super nice guy. He autographed half a dozen things when I was a kid and was genuinely happy interacting with his fans. He’s the reason I played BB and SS.

Cubs and Braves - these two teams were always on tv in the 90s.

@scottshanahan3827

21 күн бұрын

WGN and TBS made a lot of Cubs and Braves fans back in the day.

Back in the heyday of Braves baseball. The pitching lineup was incredible. The Braves on TBS, thats classic.

@craigkennedy432

2 ай бұрын

And the Cubs on WGN! Evenif you couldn't see your team, you knew you could always watch a game.

@ccl5853

2 ай бұрын

​@craigkennedy432 I just thought of how this was a hogging of the superstitions and how as a kid I'd do something like toggle between tbs and wgn just to get different perspectives. Wow, times like this I appreciate God for bringing my parents together to make me and have me live a life where I had these moments as a kid. I give my self crap today for never being the smartest, attractive, greatest, well celebrated, etc.. but to be alive and be able to look back on times like this is awesome. Now TBS has baseball for the whole nation.

@1972mrkleen

Ай бұрын

As they say , that was the Good ole Days boys!!! Here's to you🍻

If only we had Statcast data for Maddux. I feel like he'd be the all-time leader in Good Piece of Pitching.

@jprg1966

14 күн бұрын

There is a little bit of PITCHf/x data from 2007-2008 on Maddux. Obviously he was not throwing as hard then, but he was basically the same pitcher -- heavy reliance on a sinker, complemented with a cutter and circle change and occasional breaking ball.

All of Maddux' pitches had movement which is why he was so effective. His two-seam fast ball was essentially a screw ball which moved from left to right and kept batters off balance.

@bradleyboyer9979

6 ай бұрын

He was a lot like a knuckleballer. Not much velocity at all... just different speeds all over the strike zone. In, out, up, down, break left, break right, and not enough velocity for anyone to crush anything. The fact that he was an outstanding fielder and a very good hitter for a pitcher probably gave him 30 more wins than he otherwise would have had.

@michaelsmith-bn6no

4 ай бұрын

Velocity is sexy, but it doesn't carry much weight in terms of keeping hitters off-balance. Major league hitters will turn around any fastball if they get a steady diet of them. Nolan Ryan had to feature a 12 to 6 curve ball thrown out of the same arm slot as his fastball to be effective. @@bradleyboyer9979

@DeanOMiite

2 ай бұрын

Honestly a lot of his pitches move like question marks, it's crazy

@michaelsmith-bn6no

2 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention late, late movement down and in and down away.4 seamer was thrown rarely.@@bradleyboyer9979

You just don't see the Grace, Boggs, Gwynn types anymore. Gwynn averaged 29 strikeouts a season. Boggs 49, Grace 78. 29 is an average month for some hitters. That's amazing.

@ergato06

Жыл бұрын

Ryne Sandberg averaged 78 in his 16 years and over 8000 AB carreer. Don Mattingly took 3 SO in a game only once, and was in the very end of his carreer and averaged 31 per season.

@Meatball2022

11 ай бұрын

@@ergato06 those figures are nuts.

@joshw6449

7 ай бұрын

Arraez had like 34 this year with 600 ABs and a Gwynn-like .354 avg.

I love his windup and pitching motion, looks so effortless

With the game as it is now, this will never happen again. He had the best movement and control arguably ever.

@MetFanMac

Жыл бұрын

The year Maddux pitched this game, there were 266 complete games pitched in the majors. The last time there were 200 complete games pitched in a year was 2003. The last time there were 100 complete games pitched in a year was 2015. This year might end with fewer complete games pitched than in *2020* -- a sixty-game season.

@playdiscgolf1546

2 ай бұрын

It will never happen again also, because the strike zone is half the size.

Let's see how long MLB lets you keep up this *banger*

My takeaways from this: 1) I dunno why, but pitch 27 is my favorite. 2) The guy absolutely launched that bat away on pitch 58 3) Wow, that strike zone goes all the way to the batter's box on Maddux's left hand side and he definitely knew it cuz he kept pitching to that corner of the strike zone.

@llamalitany

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly my thing with Maddux too... you can say that pitchers generally got away with a lot in his era, and you can say that he got away with more than most of them due to his reputation, but does anyone REALLY doubt that Maddux is going to hit his spots if the refs force him to adjust his aim by six inches or so?

@zachPlushgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@llamalitany did you just call them the refs?

@llamalitany

Жыл бұрын

@@zachPlushgaming LMAO, was just watching some soccer before this. mb

@CokeCheese

Жыл бұрын

Pitch 65, strike. Give me a break. 6 inches off the plate. Pitch 66, 67 largely the same place...ball. You had to swing at anything close.

@cakewolf44

Жыл бұрын

mine is pitch 28

THANK YOU BAILEY FOR THIS MASTERPIECE, THE PIXEL HEAD, AND THE COUNTER.

@therealbs2000

7 ай бұрын

The pixel maddux really captures the small town librarian frumpiness of maddys face

Strike zone was absolutely bonkers. Amazing teams scored any runs at all

@VidaBlue317

8 ай бұрын

Well everyone was taking vitamins - they had to widen the strike zone.

@therealbs2000

7 ай бұрын

​@@VidaBlue317thats what happens when you widen the players

@Deeplycloseted435

7 ай бұрын

The strike zone wasn’t as high, and was wider for sure. Its better now. This was just sort of accepted that every pitcher had to adapt to the ump’s zone for the game.

@coreystone5370

7 ай бұрын

At least ten calls that were not strikes at all. I love Maddux but lets be fair. The outside corner with this umpire was strecthed out about 3 inches. With a smart pitcher that leaves hitters with a huge disadvantage.

@therealbs2000

7 ай бұрын

@coreystone5370 seriously. Maddux is so overrated, can't even break 90, gets help from umpires, totally pushed by mlb to counter the steroid narrative. You have to wonder how much he really did to earn it.

Not sure how he did it, but Maddux appears to have expanded the strike zone as the game wore on, esp. on the left side of the plate. Amazing.

@lawrencetorrance7051

2 ай бұрын

just absurd, that called strike in the 9th to dunstan

@deucedeuce333

Ай бұрын

Yea but look at one down the middle to the right. That ump just shifted that whole zone.

@petme79

4 күн бұрын

Yeah that strike zone on the left side of the plate was about two inches too wide all game long. And that strike one call against Dunston in the ninth grazed the inside chalk of the left handed batter's box.

This was back when there was strategy in batting. Mark Grace (the #3 hitter) was up with a man on 2nd and no outs. His task was to advance the runner to third by hitting the ball to the right side which he did successfully by hitting an easy grounder to 2nd base after fouling one to the right initially. The game has changed. Very few 3 hole hitters are doing anything but swinging for the fences in this situation today. It's sad. I also miss strategies surrounding the pitcher batting 9th... Such as walking the 8th batter to get to the pitcher. Or the double switch when removing the pitcher because his spot was early in the lineup the next inning. Or taking a pitcher out early for a pinch hitter in a moment where the team needs a key hit with runners on. Watching these 30-year-old clips reminds me of when baseball used to be a great way to enjoy an afternoon.

@nate_storm

16 күн бұрын

There is still strategy in batting. That strategy just so happens to be swing for the fences, because that’s the optimal strategy in most cases.

its almost like he's throwing it like a wiffle ball, it has so much movement and speed variations that it's really hard to know what he's throwing and where it's going. that 2 seamer is a thing to behold... it starts way outside the zone but just tails back.

*Fun Facts:* Maddux gave up that first hit in this game to Tyler Houston @ 2:35. They both attended the same high school, Valley in Las Vegas. Houston was drafted #2 overall by the Braves in ‘89. Maddux was drafted #31 overall by the Cubs in ‘84. It was interesting to see them face off against each other playing for the team that the other guy was drafted by.

@michaelsmith-bn6no

4 ай бұрын

Noticed that the pitch Houston hit was a first pitch 4 seam fastball. Smart hitting. He knew if he got deep in the count, Maddux would grab the advantage. Also, he served that ball into left field instead of trying to pull it. Awesome approach against Maddux. Houston never rec'd another outside fastball after that.

Imagine showing up to this game an hour late, and you could barely consume a beer before the game was over.

@soaringvulture

2 ай бұрын

In 1962 I got to a Mets game 15 minutes late and they had already made 3 errors.

Amazing to watch him stretch the strike zone in the first 2 innings, to suddenly in the 3rd inning throwing his 2seamer outside and getting the call or swings from the Cubs trying to protect. Grade A+ pitching

The man was a genius on the pitching mound and I have never seen no one who was smarter.

Absolutely loved watching the Braves of the 90s. Their line up was unreal. Tom Glavine and Maddux start the game and watch crazy ass Rocker sprint from the bullpen to close it out lol. Great team to watch.

It is insane how accurate he was. Like a pitching machine. And once he got the outside corner, the ump gave him a few calls. He frustrated the hell out of hitters.

@bellazoe1

3 ай бұрын

For me he was the greatest pitcher of his time.

ironically 78 was the speed of his fast ball as well.

Theee BEST EVER!!! MADDOG MADDOX!!! Miss those days...awesome to watch him work!!

44,45,and 46 has to be one of the best sequences ever. That curveball is unreal

@JMan-24

6 ай бұрын

Maddox did a prank video where he pretended to be grounds crew and ended up pitching BP to Chris Bryant. “that curve ball is nasty”. Lol.

@jefffinkbonner9551

3 ай бұрын

Was that a curveball? Looks more like a slider. Definitely a nasty sequence, especially how both breaking balls were set up by the back door sinker. Servais had no shot at that outside half of the plate.

@elcidcampeador9629

3 ай бұрын

44 was a sinker, 45 looked like a slider, 46 looks like a curve

4:43 Pitch 32. The game was already complete. That pitch HITS a lefty. That's some ump love. July 22nd...hot and humid. Oh...gotchta.

Batter: "I got a bullshit call on that last strikeout. It was out of the zone!" Coach: "Did you read the scouting report?"

10:14 THIS IS A CERTIFIED "90S STRIKEZONE" MOMENT

@davidparkhill8278

Жыл бұрын

The whole 9th inning too

@andrewkelley434

Жыл бұрын

That's an Eric Gregg strikezone. The guy was a known gambler. Look at his infamous 1997 NLCS game Braves vs Marlins when Livan Hernandez was on the mound against Maddux. He had the fix on against the Braves. It was obvious and there was nothing the Braves could do... but just take it. I remember watching it and being fumed. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4Znx61ul6apmLA.html

@connorgillispie7128

6 ай бұрын

Not even the worst one

Greg Maddux the greatest pitcher of all time Master of the mount he had unbelievable great stuff perfect locations changing speeds and Maddox had control of the ball almost like he had a string hooked to it they will never ever be another picture that can do what Greg Maddux done

A surgeon, pinpoint control.

Ahh the good ol days TBS and the Braves!

So basically, if the catcher could catch the ball, it was a strike.

As a teen in the 90s, I didn't realize how good I had it watching the Braves play on TBS during summer break.

Maddux was a magician with a baseball

What crazy is offensive was so out of wack by then that Sammy Sosa had 99OPS+ in 1997 and only 160OPS+ in 1998 with 416 total bases.

Prime Greg Maddux doesn’t get talked about as the greatest ever but honestly he should

Angel Hernandez suddenly looks like a good ump.

78 Pitch complete game. Let that sink in

78 pitches and a bunch of generous strikes by the home ump. Maddux was fun to watch esp on live tv. It's all about pitch movement and not speed.

Pitch #2 is what I always envision when I think about Maddux.

1- Thanks for this complement to your FB video 2- Thanks for leaving the music for the breaks in between innings 🙏

I know everyone is complaining about the expanded strike zone; but with the camera angle being from Maddux’s right side, anything on the left inside corner of the plate is going to look further inside than it is. We’re not seeing the pitches straight on like the umpire is. I’m not saying all of them were actually strikes, but they were closer than we’re seeing from our angle. Either way, it was a dominant performance.

@playdiscgolf1546

2 ай бұрын

The camera angle was the same from 1980s to 2020

Grew up loving the Braves and idolising this pitching rotation. Two takeaways: Mark Grace was a great hitter, and holy cow that strike zone was WILD.

If Jacob degrom had this umpire he would Legit have a 1 era.

@chancebutler6472

Жыл бұрын

yeahjeez what a joke of an umpiring job. like 20 of those werent even remotely close... almost a showcase of how shitty he played in this game...

@johnlindsay4310

Жыл бұрын

That's Eric Gregg, his strike zone is always wide as shit

@4EyedAnimation

7 ай бұрын

@@johnlindsay4310 No one complained...the camera angle may make it look a foot off the plate, but everything had movement

@TAYLORFAN50

7 ай бұрын

​@@4EyedAnimation- Yeah, right.. moved from a foot off the plate to 18 inches. 🙄

@playdiscgolf1546

2 ай бұрын

Umpires have always controlled the narrative. I’m a big baseball fan but it’s hilarious to think otherwise

This is fun to watch. Good idea to accompany the main channel's video with this.

One of those legendary games for people my age.

His change-up was simply OBSCENE!...Depraved!

Yes, the strike zone was a bit wide, and it got progressively wider in he later innings, but, the camera angle back then was more to the right than modern games. This makes the apparent strike zone more skewed to reality than what we see nowadays.

@christopherhand4836

8 ай бұрын

Lol that’s what most losers say. So you’re saying all the umpires just cheat for him. Roflmao at you.

@trey2325

8 ай бұрын

It's skewed so pitches look more inside than they are and he got a bunch of generous calls that looked inside on video, today people would fume

@christopherhand4836

8 ай бұрын

@@trey2325 no he got strike calls and little whiny punks cried ..

@playdiscgolf1546

2 ай бұрын

The camera angle is almost identical to most nowadays. Stop it lmao

Maddux in his prime. He pounded the corners the entire game.

@michaelsmith-bn6no

4 ай бұрын

Even the pitches that mistakenly leak-out over the middle surprise the hitters, because of the frisbee-like movement. He maybe had 3 leakers the whole game.

He’s really underrated on how much movement his pitches get.

@soaringvulture

2 ай бұрын

Especially when he got his hands on a scuffed ball.

It's so refreshing to watch one of the older games where the players don't look like a bunch of circus freaks.

This kind of thing can happen when the home plate ump calls strikes that are 3 inches off the outside corner of the plate to a right-handed batter.

@kurtisviktor3314

2 ай бұрын

3 inches? Those 2 seamers are almost an entire foot off the plate

@h445

12 күн бұрын

there were a few gimme calls but ump was pretty good most of the game. lets not confuse him with angel hernandez

9:30 for the missed pitch

I so miss the days of Greg Maddux,Tom Glavine,and John Smoltz!!! Three of the best pitchers ever let alone on the same team!! Thank you for that fun fast walk down Braves memory lane⚾❤️🤍💙

Wow. We were lucky to be around to see him pitch

Baseball World: Can’t throw low and inside to a lefty! Maddux: Hold my beers!

One of my favorite pitchers growing up. The man can do it all.

How I sorely miss Braves on TBS with Skip Caray, Joe Simpson, Pete Van Wieren… those were the days

His ball control was unmatched

Will never forget watching this particular game. Maddox was incredible

The players in this game: the HOFers Sandberg and Chipper in addition to Maddux. Add in Sosa and A. Jones and you've got 5 starters with more than 60 fWAR a piece. Edit: Mark Grace was pretty good, too.

@bclautz

Жыл бұрын

A. Jones will be getting a next few years.

@Meatball2022

11 ай бұрын

@@bclautz half the team in those years should be in the HOF. They were so darn good

Maddox was getting the outside pitch called a strike the entire game by the home plate umpire Eric Gregg. Watch the call at 11:34. The catcher actually sets up outside the plate by an inch or two, and Maddox throws it about a foot outside the plate (based on the plate being 17 inches and the ball appears to be outside about 2/3 the plate width), and Gregg calls it a strike. I believe that was the most egregious called strike in this game, but there may have been a few more egregious ones.

@PantsofVance

Ай бұрын

Gregg was notoriously awful behind the plate.

If all umpires were like Eric Gregg, games would be so much faster.

Maddux aided by Eric Gregg's massive strike zone and them wanting to get Game 1 of a doubleheader in, but still impressive.

@tpstrat14

7 ай бұрын

That strike zone was crazy. I could get guys out with that strike zone and I throw 70 lol

@mramisuzuki6962

7 ай бұрын

EG strike zone was just his width.

Masterful.

I wish there was a baseball channel where you could just watch all the games of any teams you wish for any season you wish.

La mecánica del wind up de Maddux es perfecta, no para lanzar 100 mph sino para poner la bola donde quiere.

@marmirc22

6 ай бұрын

Qué genio más impresionante fue Maddux. Desde entonces no se ha visto siquiera un pitcher cercano a su tipo. Ahora solo lanza piedras abundan.

My favorite part of this is Skip, Pete and Don calling the game. Thank goodness Joe is still around.

@rwwilson21

3 ай бұрын

Joe sucks as a bordcaster.

You are the hero we don’t deserve Mr. Bailey

The best there ever was.

I remember SportsCenter doing this that night, only it was each pitch without the result of each. It ran about one second per pitch for the reel. Impressive stuff. To this day as an official scorer, I refer to any completedd inning of less than 10 pitches as a "Maddux" (Sorry, Red Barrett, only learned of you about a year ago.)

I miss 90's baseball

The movement, change of speed, and location is about as good as you will see.

11:34 that strike being called today would stop the game lmao holy shit this umps zone was so far wide left from the pitchers view.

Holy strike zone

Eric "Hamburger" Gregg's strike zone was almost as wide as himself.. But, he called it for both pitchers. Maddux was smart enough to take advantage of it and throw one of the best pitching performances I have ever seen. 78 freaking pitches, lol Unreal.

Let's be honest. That ump was calling some strikes that were 6" off the plate.

how was batting average higher when the strike zone was twice as wide

@hessunator

Жыл бұрын

Players were hitting for contact much more than nowadays. It wasn't as extreme of a three true outcomes game that it is today.

@sgtleobella

Жыл бұрын

Not every umpire was as shitty as Eric Gregg.

@username-zj9id

Жыл бұрын

No shift. Ground balls actually got through the infield occasionally

@playdiscgolf1546

2 ай бұрын

Less pitchers throwing 95+ mph

Imagine Maddux in today's game? He would carve them up like a fresh steak. ERA records would fall.

Beautiful pitching to Mark Grace. Hit's outside corner for a strike, the comes inside and his the corner for strike 3. So too, Maddux knew this Cubbie team would try to pull every outside pitch ... the result being a lot of ground ball outs.

Maddux would clean up in today's MLB with all these free swinging, over-paid hot dogs who are more worried about their exit velocity and how much bling they are wearing than hitting for average or moving the runner over .

Every one of his pitches complement each other perfectly. Helps when you get those calls for strikes that far off the corner as well. I don't know who the home plate ump was but goddamn man

This is the most amazing pitching performance in history. Most pitchers throw more than this in 6-7 innings. Goes to show just how his pitches made hitters just look and feel silly. Something about his style makes people swing and make minimal contact.

@therealbs2000

7 ай бұрын

Because they looked like meatballs until you swung at them maybe

@michaelsmith-bn6no

4 ай бұрын

With Maddux, you get to see only the top half of the ball as a hitter, because everything he throws stays down, and has downward movement. This induces ground balls. He generally gave-up very few fly ball outs as a result.

One of my favorite things about this video is hearing Pete, Joe, Skip, and Don.

Truely incredible

He never threw more than 5 pitches at any at bat. Amazing. Thanks for sharing!

The editing to put this together, damn. Also, nice to see Eric Gregg behind the dish.

dude someone get that autozone player of the game card tatted

It's easy with Eric Gregg calling balls & strikes. He had a habit of adding 3" to the outside corner.

Anyone else notice how far off the plate pitch 33 was

@soaringvulture

2 ай бұрын

Don't ask the ump.

Remarkable performance, but home plate umpire Eric Gregg should get credit also. His strike zone was wider than he is! I love the look on the face of the reliever the Braves had up in the bullpen in the 9th. I'm sure he's thinking, "What the heck am I doing this for?!!!"

I was at this game with my dad - the first of a doubleheader. We didn't even realize that we had seen this game because, as a young Cubs fan, all I cared about was the fact that the Cubs lost and not that we had just witnessed a pitching masterpiece.

Oh look its, Ol ump that has a strike zone the size of a small village!!