As a live audio engineer, I could see this being useful. Most functions on modern digital consoles are part of the screen. When we do outdoor festivals, it is very difficult to see the display. Even with a tent or canopy the display can be unusable.

@MrPruske

11 күн бұрын

🎉

@PendragonDaGreat

11 күн бұрын

I do live audio as well, I'd love to see a hybrid display like this. Where it has a front light like a Kindle e-reader or that other e-ink display they mentioned. That way it can simulate sunlight (I guess like a GBA-SP). Because agreed outdoor midday shows absolutely impossible at times. But once the sun goes down, or if you're doing an indoor show, the Achilles heel of "needs light to function" becomes apparent, and the little goosenecks on most desks may not be enough. Just add a toggle near the screen so you can turn on the light when needed, or turn it off when you don't.

@Rararawr

11 күн бұрын

Still seems like an incomplete solution for that. Once it gets dark, or even the sun no longer in a position to reflect off the monitor at you, you're just gonna need a different display.

@WilliamOgden

11 күн бұрын

@@PendragonDaGreat yeah I think you have the right idea here It would need to be some sort of hybrid solution

@blairhoughton7918

11 күн бұрын

Yeah this is for functional usage, not high fidelity creative graphic stuff. There's probably a way to adapt it to automotive displays with a complementary light for when the sun isn't on it.

It handles sunlight better than 90% of reddit mods

@elgoblinospark2949

11 күн бұрын

ikr

@kbhasi

11 күн бұрын

Yep! (thinks about when my post got removed and the moderator refused to explain why beyond the name of the rule they clicked on)

@mopman9264

11 күн бұрын

only 90% ?!

@Gobbbbb

11 күн бұрын

You're being too generous.

@NealMohansMicroPenis

11 күн бұрын

​@@kbhasiI got banned for hate speech when I said nothing at all. It was eventually overturned but yeah, get banned for absolutely nothing !

10:20 goddamn, I spit out my breakfast

Honestly, I've done a lot of fabrication stuff, I can totally see this being really useful. There are a ton of various outdoor events, worksites, and even just general inspections in which having a Nuk style computer hooked up to one of these screens connected via an extension cord would be absolutely amazing for just general diagnostics. ((Also there's a bunch of fishing events that record all their weights on the computer and I always see them just bending over squinting at the screen as they try and see it))

@nimmawibba9874

9 күн бұрын

Yes but charging 1500 to essentially remove features and only be 1080p+60hz is genuinely outrageous

Me when the video started: "So it's a GameBoy?" The video 2 seconds later: "Yep, it's a GameBoy"

@user-ec3rm9wr1n

11 күн бұрын

😩😒

@saysbadman

11 күн бұрын

GameBoy Color!

@Runslik3Wind

11 күн бұрын

lol same here, was like oh its a gameboy cool. people forget how viewable the gbc was when sitting out in the yard.

@weeveferrelaine6973

11 күн бұрын

@@Runslik3Wind And the battery life was wild. You could take shitty alkaline batteries and game for hundreds of hours on them. So much of my childhood was spent with my waiting times at the buss stop or sneaking some pokemon play at night on my GBC (which I still have). Really incredible tech and games for the time, that are still fairly impressive.

@ClassicGamer2996

11 күн бұрын

I thought the same

Useful for outdoor events if you need an admin desk for accounting, sign-ins for attendees, and payment processing

@metaleuman

11 күн бұрын

A 32 inch screen ?

@alexatkin

11 күн бұрын

But then it would be more useful on a tablet, ideally a waterproof one.

@richardprice5978

11 күн бұрын

car's dashboard as i don't always want back-lighting and or blindingly senter but also don't see the need in the modern era for 20 mechanical gages anymore other than for fantasy design as functional can be handled better with minimal gages+buttons and screen's

@Dlutheran

11 күн бұрын

@@richardprice5978yeah but what about at night?

@TheOriginalFaxon

11 күн бұрын

Also for the audio-video engineers. someone has to manage the projection maps and the DSP mixer on the audio stack at your festival, even during the daytime.

lmao the "dissapear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library" caught me off guard :3

@Rainbow_Atlas

6 күн бұрын

Really did xD

10:24 ain't no way he said that

@djnazgra

10 күн бұрын

But he did. Lol

@Ferno209

10 күн бұрын

I laughed so hard when he said it cause its true! Florida is next level stupid

@ARandomInternetUser08

10 күн бұрын

@@kieraisverybored speak for yourself, 🤡🤡

@osborne3

10 күн бұрын

@@Ferno209 Probably don't want books on leftist illusions about gender, directed towards kids. But still shouldn't be banned from public libraries, if that's the case.

@MannyHaarp

10 күн бұрын

I almost spat my coffee in laughter

the only screen where a lightbar makes sense!

@deswill2737

11 күн бұрын

a lightbar makes sense either way since it lights up your desk and uses less power than lighting the room

@CanIHasThisName

11 күн бұрын

Lightbars are designed in such a way that they don't hit the screen. So they're useless for this.

@TheHammerGuy94

11 күн бұрын

@@CanIHasThisNameLinus has always thought they were stupid since "Why would you want to light up the screen when it already has a backlight???" well, they are actually Desk lights that use your monitor as the mount. they are supposed to light up the desk. and give your eyes less strain as they brighten your desk space in general. But you can angle them to also point at the screen if you want.

@CanIHasThisName

11 күн бұрын

​@@TheHammerGuy94 I'm aware, it took quite a while for someone to finally explain it to him (haven't seen him make that remark in a long while, so I'm assuming someone did). To be fair though, many people have the same misconception, so it's not a difficult mistake to make. And he still has a point that they're ridiculously expensive even considering the specific temperature, especially since most of them only illuminate the front, not the back (shining a light at the wall behind the monitor is often the most effective way of preventing eye strain).

@LRM12o8

11 күн бұрын

@CanIHasThisName lol, I too thought they were for lighting up the screen 😅 And yeah, I agree, lighting up the wall behind the monitor is great (probably better to prevent eye strain. I have a RGB strip on the back of my desk that lights up the wall. I installed it for looks (and because it was left over from a previous project), but it I quickly noticed that it really makes computing in the dark more comfortable.

Actual use case - live events, like music festivals where sound and lighting techs need to see screens. Also, astrophotographers who do a lot of solar imaging - that's something I personally do and seeing the screen is one of the hardest parts about doing it.

@willofthewind

11 күн бұрын

I work in live events and second this... but it would need to also have a backlight that could be enabled during dark conditions to really be worth using.

@oldbuddyolpal9859

11 күн бұрын

Audio engineer isn't going to want to sit in the sun

@kretieg

11 күн бұрын

I have a custom 16" Dobsonian. The nosebleed cost of tunable Ha filters under 4 angstrom keeps me confined to nighttime use. That's fine. Galaxy's, clusters bot spherical and open, planets, moons. Yes. Moons.

@BBROPHOTO

11 күн бұрын

@@kretieg haha yes, Ha scopes / tuneable filters are crazy expensive. I generally only do deep sky with a newtonian monochrome camera setup. I only do casual white light solar imaging which is good fun, but the difficulties of seeing the screen are still very real.

@calebjonathan25

11 күн бұрын

@@willofthewind At 12:12, he explains that frontlighting is available on SVD's outdoor signage -- just not included on the monitor due to customer preference.

Dude doesn't understand how much outdoor workers need this. Same for ads could be seen during the wouldn't emit light at night. And as other people said remote working in your garden, terrasse, balcony, patio or at the beach... My wife would have love that screen last week.

I worked in Ag-Tech for years, and man, I wish I had a display like this for all my readouts in the field. Would've mad e a huge difference when giving demos and pretty much all the other work I had to do from my truck.

4:16 I'ts really funny to note that aside from text it "doesn't look that good" when, in that lighting, it looks about 1000x better than the monitor right next to it because you can actually see it clearly.

@zen6591

10 күн бұрын

he clarifies that in 20 seconds

OLED, nah I have SUNLED

@Gamepadder

11 күн бұрын

😂

@Nate-bd8fg

10 күн бұрын

"LED" stands for Light Emitting Display. So maybe SRD? Sun reflecting display?

@Pib31995

10 күн бұрын

@@Nate-bd8fg LED stands for Light Emitting Diode

@Nate-bd8fg

10 күн бұрын

@@Pib31995 ah shit you rite

@stratosvomvos

10 күн бұрын

How did this comment get 340 likes, my whole channel got 23 ( wut)

10:27 bruh who wrote THAT joke I didn’t expect that anywhere 💀💀💀💀

@Supervhizor

10 күн бұрын

the ghost of anthony

@battalionstallion3894

10 күн бұрын

emily or jake or any of their friends on the writing team

@Titin5123

2 күн бұрын

Someone who doesn't live in Florida or even the US

I mean this to be constructive, as someone who watches all your videos on a tv with surround sound or computer with reference speakers and subwoofer. Can you please apply a high pass filter, often you guys have some errant low frequencies bouncing around, this video has it around 5 minutes (wind on the lavalier I'm sure). Love your channel

@tschuuuls486

10 күн бұрын

You probably should email them and ask for the email to be forwarded, if you care enough :D

Due to ultraviolet dyes mixed in, the sheet of paper actually "reflects" more (visible) light than initially hit it. The dye converts some invisible light into visible light, so you see more light.

@Shaflugi

10 күн бұрын

That's rad.

@lua-nya

10 күн бұрын

That explains how stupidly white that paper is.

@JinKee

10 күн бұрын

How do we get so many bullets in them? Like this! Plus, we fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet. This is the same technology we've been using on robots for decades. Scares the hell out of them. They come in hundreds of designer colors including forest, desert, table, evening at the improv... what idiot picked the...

@ganzeige

10 күн бұрын

So you are basically saying, the display would be brighter under sunlight, if theyd had used a sheet of paper as their reflective layer?

@comeradecoyote

10 күн бұрын

Optical brighteners strike again

Another use case for a monitor like this could be on job sites that use BIM software. Contractors on site can get updated drawings that are displayed on a computer monitor that typically needs to be in a dim area so they can be read. This display could help make those drawing stations more accessible on job sites.

@alexatkin

11 күн бұрын

But that's more what their original signage monitors would be ideal for, given they're waterproof and presumably built to take a beating. I just can't figure how this kind of screen in a traditional monitor package is useful.

@a-aron2276

11 күн бұрын

Updated drawings😂😂 good one!!

@bakto2122

11 күн бұрын

Do you work with BIM? I don't really work in the field, but have heard a bit about it (mostly from my dad who works on civil engineering projects). From what I've heard it seems like unneeded complexity without any benefit. I would love to hear someone's opinion who actually works with BIM.

@Makerr8

11 күн бұрын

@@bakto2122 from what I have seen (architecture side) its only used by firms who have all of their consultants already using revit/BIM so it makes sense or if there is a project that is very complicated and needs better coordination between the structural engineer's drawings and the MEP's drawings. Other than that its not used much because it costs too much to have everyone on board.

@Roko-jb5hl

11 күн бұрын

Some company made an RLCD android tablet not long ago, . That would perfect for job sites.

This monitor means that I can now sit outside to take my meetings instead of sitting inside in a dark cube all day. It's a bit pricey, but if it gets any cheaper I'll buy one for sure. Imagine having one of these at the beach

@knabbagluon

10 күн бұрын

this. I don't understand how nobody here seems to want this. I really hate working so much in the dark when outside is nice weather.

@calebjonathan25

10 күн бұрын

That is an excellent use case! The RLCD monitor opens some big doors for people who want to bring their office outside to bright environs where backlit tech is very limited.

@comeradecoyote

10 күн бұрын

Thats honestly not a half bad idea. Outdoor office. Idk how comfortable the display would be in some lighting conditions. But slap your pc on a cart or stand, with an outlet strip, monitor, and webcam, and you could work in the backyard easily. Or a screened in porch. Kinda reminds me how some writers used to take their typewriter out on a nice day. They even offered typewriter cases with tripods, for working while travelling or at baseball games or w/e.

@Gorlami90

9 күн бұрын

Who takes a pc to the beach?

@tobihalo2

9 күн бұрын

You don't bring your gaming PC to the beach??​@@Gorlami90

I "Finally" Understand why Benq makes those display top-down lights.

if they start making these water and dust proof these could be great option for military use, whether for laptops or battle screens or other uses, the need to cover a screen to see it is a problem that hasn't been solved properly.

@pdblouin

11 күн бұрын

I'm thinking maybe off-grid in a sun room. But at the absurd price of this thing, I'd rather spend $100 on a monitor and $1400 on more solar/battery capacity in that case.

@jefmoesy

11 күн бұрын

until u have a night mission😅

@CanIHasThisName

11 күн бұрын

These monitors are purely reflective, so they don't offer any versatility. For military or general outdoors use, you would want a transflective display, which has both a reflective layer as well as a backlight. But they're even more expensive and have some issues of their own.

@OriginalUnknown2

11 күн бұрын

@@pdblouin u are right to say that, but the U.S. government, especially army, loves spending enormous amounts on things that could have cost a fraction, so it's not unrealistic for them to invest. @jefmoesy, as the email guy said, they do have patented front-led that would light it up.. I'm sure its a minor cost the the overall system and could be implemented.

@JaenEngineering

11 күн бұрын

Did you miss the entire "why it exists" section at 8:16

This would be great for saving battery in a laptop when outside, but you'd also want the option to toggle a backlight for inside

@Crand0m

11 күн бұрын

I need this with usb-c output

@iurigrang

11 күн бұрын

I was thinking about a toggleable backlight, but this probably has to be calibrated such that the image looks right when passing through the color filters twice, which would make the backlight image washed out when compared to the reflected image. This probably would make contrast still highly dependent on ambient light

@aebisdecunter

11 күн бұрын

The problem is in the diffusion layers. This monitor is dimm already in everything but daylight, so adding several another layers would make unusable even in overcast. As I see it, you either have RLCD with *front* light or you'd need a switchable diffusion or mirror layers. Another option is to go with Quantum dots, since they could convert the light from the front and from the back.

@Dr.Spatula

11 күн бұрын

Backlight? Build a front light into the bottom of the laptop

@CromulentEmbiggening

11 күн бұрын

Or a frontlight toggle like the first GBA-SP

Glad LTT started reviewing eye care displays, since I always had wanted major reviews of them before buying mine. I use this and some E Ink screens to reduce eye strain, and in conjunction with Miebo, it's done wonders for my headaches. I use a nearby window to fully illuminate my screen. I do wish more of their major monitor reviews mentioned eye care however. It's hard to tell how much flicker and things like that can effect you with a normal monitor until you buy one.

“Makes greys disappear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library” damn, didn’t expect such hot topics to come out of ltt, still a funny joke

@donc-m4900

11 күн бұрын

10:19 Linus canceled in 3, 2, 1. Lol

@no_skcaj1038

11 күн бұрын

Ltt is great

@Hakai_ryu

11 күн бұрын

I would have spit my drink out if I had taken a sip right before then.

@sylvester4207

11 күн бұрын

What a fantastic joke lmaoo

@fab1604

11 күн бұрын

Based DeSantis

It would have been great to show an old game boy game emulated on it XD

@user-ec3rm9wr1n

11 күн бұрын

Well sigh .....

@Unknown_Genius

11 күн бұрын

That'd 100% end worse. As much as I remember being annoyed that I did need light to use it, I definitely don't remotely remember it being that dark unless you were sitting next to tree in the shadow while the sun was almost entirely gone.

I've compiled a list of all 5 RLCD monitors out there. Great review btw. Love your enthusiasm.

as a sound engineer who does mainly outdoor festivals, I can see this being handy for daytime events. would be good for lighting too, but I normally am not doing fancy enough lights during daytime to need more monitors than whats built in to an MA

Playing a Horror game with a flashlight headband would be hilarious

@mz-power9587

10 күн бұрын

That's actually such a great idea

@not_creative_with_username3834

10 күн бұрын

Damn!!! that would be sick!

I can see that type of display in say a laptop meant to be used outdoors, like construction areas. But only if it has the option for a back light when used indoors.

@alexatkin

11 күн бұрын

Its just weird in a monitor form factor, like you said it makes more sense in a laptop or tablet, ideally a waterproof ruggedised one.

@stevecole90099

11 күн бұрын

It would be great if they could pair this with a backlight to get the best of both. Imagine a smartphone that could just disable its backlight outside and still get 2000 nits on the screen while also improving battery life but still has the backlight for use when inside. Same for laptops, tablets, and handhelds.

@vadnegru

11 күн бұрын

Something similar used in my Amazfit Bip. Problem is that not many colours are displayed. But i can confirm, it works both ways

@CromulentEmbiggening

11 күн бұрын

Or a frontlight like the GBA SP early model. I don't know if the reflective back is compatible with backlighting or it probably would've been done in the later GBA models

Imagine a USB C powered display that lets you work with your laptop connected to it. That way you're prepared to edit an outside project.

This would make an amazing screen for a drone controller as well as the many other used mentioned in the comments. That's just one that immediately stood out to me

at 6:17 a wild Taran Appeared.... cool to see him around LTT videos even after that tearfull goodbye

@AltonV

10 күн бұрын

It's a clip from an old video

@benjamin_lincoln

10 күн бұрын

@@AltonV 🤯🤯

@StFilip89

10 күн бұрын

Haha, I was looking for comment about Taran.

Now the light bar everyone putting on top of their screens makes so much more sense actually!

I like that someone finally brought this tech back. I'd even go as far to hope they are used in newer tablets, phones, and watches eventually too. But since 'new development/adopter tax' for these screens are still a bit high, one can only hope something like big companies in the sports or food industry make some partnerships or at least some large orders.

Would be interested to see something like this combined with some kind of edge lighting for outdoor use. Feels like that could keep it usable in a lot of scenarios

this would be perfect for outside shows in audio visual for computer system that are needed to control lighing and or audio where a reguler lcd would fail

"the lack of contrast can make distinct shades of gray disappear faster than a book about gender in a florida library" holy SHIT linus

@Alex-zi1nb

11 күн бұрын

epic joke

@sennevanopdorp2022

11 күн бұрын

I heard this quote and omg

@moo5613

11 күн бұрын

HES SO REAL FOR THAT

@jooroth18

11 күн бұрын

As a florida resident I almost spit out my drink when i heard that lmao

@emmaknijn

11 күн бұрын

I love it

I've covered this monitor a lot. I think you're right, it's just for text really. I must say, this is an excellent video, the testing is simply brilliant. GJ LTT.

@yensteel

8 күн бұрын

Wow, nice to see you here too!

This video suffers lower viewership, demonstrating KZread viewership means nothing, because this one was FANTASTIC. One of the best videos as of late.

The power of the sun IN THE PALM OF MY HANDS!

@Narinjas

11 күн бұрын

He can have a small dimmable projector at the right angle to have maximum control over this monitor... but i am a vampire so i never stay in the light...

@ilovefunnyamv2nd

11 күн бұрын

"in the palm of my hand" I understood that reference, both the wan show, and Doc Ock

@sethbingo

10 күн бұрын

Ladies and gentlemen, fasten your seatbelts

Hey Linus!!! Those Light bars that point at the screen don't look silly now eh?

want one! very difficult to read displays in the greenhouses without shade boxes. This would make that way more flexible.

@calebjonathan25

10 күн бұрын

Absolutely!

Imagine this on like a Toughbook with a front light. For a system they expect your using in a literal field, it would be amazing.

10:25 is CRAZYYYYYY

@ARandomInternetUser08

10 күн бұрын

Crazy political trash*

@HotdogSosage

10 күн бұрын

Crazy is getting high on drugs and trying to eat people. This is just a sad attempt of forcing a weak political joke in

@CubanLegend561

10 күн бұрын

i loled so hard

@Sn0wiss

10 күн бұрын

@@ARandomInternetUser08 AKA a joke

@gaelenhammond5010

10 күн бұрын

I don’t think it’s political to say a joke about a thing that happens.

Finally rlcd got a mention, the main advantage for these panels is the reduced eye strain. Is amazing for long hours of text based work like as a dev this is really good

@NigelMelanisticSmith

10 күн бұрын

I agree. I work in Cyber Security and use this monitor to help with my eye strain.

@GMZLDK

10 күн бұрын

100% agree

@thehailey

10 күн бұрын

A normal LCD with a flicker-free low brightness setting is bout 10% of the price, but power to ya

@kuba_wasikowski

10 күн бұрын

I have this monitor for 2 years and helped me a lot with eyestrain, well not this RE but previous version that has same panel

@JGnLAU8OAWF6

10 күн бұрын

If it were able to reflect as much as even gray paper it would be great, but right now normal LCD with dialed in brightness would be a lot better.

I think this monitor would be great for cruises, airport displays, and restaurants(with windows). Any indoor public area would be really good for this thing.

There is a tablet made with the same type of reflective LCD tech, but the cool thing is that along with the reflective LCD layer, it also has a layer of LEDs on top facing the panel so that it can be used indoors.

@TheAkashicTraveller

9 күн бұрын

Which is wierd to me because transflective LCDs exist, or existed not sure, which are both reflective and have a backlight.

@cj.wijtmans

8 күн бұрын

@@TheAkashicTraveller its probably not as good as a pure reflective layer. It will make more sense to put light on it from the front

"The customer is always right in regards to taste " is the proper qoute

@thehailey

10 күн бұрын

If we're gonna get picky it's "right in matters of taste", and this would be a matter of taste where they want u to leave out expensive additional features and they still get charged the same

10:20 Ohhhh nooo, you didn't Linus...

@itr00ow93

11 күн бұрын

they're laughing in Canadian probably :p

@Narcle0

11 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@jefmoesy

11 күн бұрын

Respect just went up x1000000👍😂

@Verchiel_

11 күн бұрын

@@itr00ow93 they and the rest of the world are laughing at not being american.

@OGTrula

11 күн бұрын

Good thing there is only smart people in the tech community.. oh wait

I remember back in the days of netbooks being excited about displays by Pixel Qi. I really wanted to add one to my netbook to extend its battery life even further! This seems similar but Pixel Qi had a back light if you wanted it or you could turn the backlight off. A netbook with one of the brand new solid state drives and one of these screens was the ultimate portable computer!

As a person that works in the optical industry, opticians are now being taught that it takes 16 hours of screen time to equal the same blue light exposure as 30 seconds outside on an overcast day. The blue light exposure thing was a marketing ploy to get people to buy “blue light filtering” eyewear. Eye strain on screens is more because of the distance, not the light.

My Garmin Forerunner 955 has this kind of display. It's the ideal type of panel for the use case. I absolutely love it.

This seems like it be a really cool portable monitor technology. Being able to get some work done outdoors without having to find shade for your laptop, and if it gets cloudy, you can just use your laptops display

I am super happy to know this exists. For 15 years I have been thinking that a display that performs well in direct sunlight would be great. Yes it certainly needs a few more years and iterations but it is really the first product that seems usable at all in this regard (except huge LED walls).

9:47. However is it linearly polarized light that it reflects? Most people are sensetive to linear polarized light, not circular polarized light (that the sun emits). A regular LCD emits linear polarized light. I don't know exactly how the RLCD works.

Finally, a monitor that you need a desk lamp for. Of course this probably would have a lot of great utility for semi-outdoor POS systems like at theme parks, or other theme park type information displays (As long as they have a light strip above them for overcast weather and nightime operation). Otherwise I could see people using this for outdoor patio use, for football games or what have you. But short of integration into a weather housing, it would be "Lug outside for parties" kind of use. A neat niche for sure. Their digital signage products make a lot more sense especially in the kinds of conditions you now typically see backlit digital signage. I wonder how their power performance compares to the rising competing technology of E-ink displays, considering they have a similar low power profile, but good sunlight performance. The backlight feature of the E-inks in some ways allows for better versatility. Unless they offer a sun-LCD with a supplemental lighting feature.

@uberfuzzy

10 күн бұрын

I had the same idea, but my first thought example was toll-booths, since they usually 3-4 glass sides, so ALL the daylight gets in there.

@comeradecoyote

10 күн бұрын

@@uberfuzzy I think the age of toll plaza’s is coming to an end. Most places are ditching them for computer vision toll enforcement, and RFID tag billing like EZ-pass. Otherwise thats not a bad idea. I’m sure they’d find a niche for any outdoor booth, as long as a windshield’s polarisation doesn’t affect the visibility of the display. I know some linear and circular polarisers like camera lenses and sunglasses might cause a perceptible dimming.

It's certainly nice to have as a backup for any kind of outdoor activity. Just mirror your content to this and a normal monitor to use whichever fits the current environment best.

I had honestly forgotten about reflective screens, but this was super cool. I would 100% buy a portable monitor that used this technology.

As others have mentioned, this is also great for general computing in outdoor events. Cheaper for powering it, better visibility when outside, and for general use stuff, no need for high performance, just like offices that use those cheap USB based display extenders. No need for fast response times or perfect 3d rendering, just showing text, or basic multi-monitor work with documents/spreadsheets.

usecase can be to adopt this tech into the "normal" lcd/led displays, so you have best of both worls. Sensor to detect ambient light levels to make an ultra low energy display for like worklaptop.

@foldionepapyrus3441

11 күн бұрын

Has already been done 'transflective displays' have been fitted in as far as I know ever Panasonic Toughbook for decades, and my old models are really great at remaining very readable in the daylight but still working in the dark. The technology does still have limitations on pixel density etc but you can get a perfectly acceptable screen out of it.

@yensteel

8 күн бұрын

Woot, the same company in this video now has what you're looking for.

live audio is great example! For the lack of constant light issue, just get a small USB led light facing the screen from above or below towards the screen. problem solved.

I'm thinking. Would a screen like this + a NUC, hooked up to a portable battery station, be more or less efficient for working in the middle of California desert, than just a normal laptop? Would the power consumption be better than just a typical run-of-the-mill laptop, for stuff like doing calculations and processing data? I guess you'd be able to stretch that battery budget a lot longer

I've never heard of people thinking blue light causes eye damage. People avoid high amounts of blue light because it messes with their sleep cycle

@Lizlodude

9 күн бұрын

Yeah it kinda showed up when the 'blue light glasses' became popular, pretty much just to sell more of them as far as I can tell.

@PolyesterMoustache

9 күн бұрын

@@Lizlodude it's just weird to even address such a nonsense claim when there's a legitimate one that's been around much longer. But I guess it's good to publicly debunk hogwash

I love the conversation about light and contrast ratio. Remind me of the Technology Connections video on the color brown, which is just orange with context.

As someone who is a high schooler who has lived in Florida my whole life, i can guarantee that the statement at 10:20 is not true, they fly off the shelves faster than that panel could even update a frame 😂

I remember seeing this technology showcased back in 2017. Glad to see it finally come up again, hopefully its here to stay!

I could see this being extremely helpful in the screen I installed in my CRX since it's got a large back hatch window so often the sun is pouring through when it's behind me making the screen (and thus my GPS/radio controls) almost completely unreadable, and the old school aftermarket radio screen in the car is 100% un-readable at almost any level of sunlight. If you could add a light to make this usable at night also it would be fantastic for any screen that needs used in vehicles, maybe phones, and smart watches but I can't see the use case for it in a computer monitor outside of niche applications like music festivals or other events, maybe some work type situations like on site computer for construction, etc. but Jesus that price. edit: Just thought of this, would be an option for watching tv on a camping trip? low power consumption and working in sunlight could be useful there. edit 2: Could be useful for a bedroom tv that you don't want making light but you want it on to sleep to? Could be stretch there, I have a really old 50" 2006 TV (got it for $15) that used a lamp in the back for my bedroom TV. 720p sucks and you can't use it all if the lights are on in the room BUT it's capable of being dimmer than a modern TV which makes it my ideal TV for when I'm in bed with the lights off.

... gotta love that you used an Austin Clip for that color Accuracy clip...

@Sydney_2011

10 күн бұрын

What's the relevance there? Is there a joke or a reference?

@kirisuma2186

10 күн бұрын

@@Sydney_2011 no, If anything just a nod to a fellow KZreadr. They could have easily used one of their own clips.

Even worse than it reflecting more blue light back at you, it reflects back UV as well which you can see on the graph. And UV is known to damage your eyes.

@heckoff7904

11 күн бұрын

the amount of UV it reflects would probably not be much more than any other material, remember that this is less bright than a piece of paper in the sun. Many things will reflect UV into your eyes, unless their specific material properties absorb UV.

@Skylancer727

11 күн бұрын

@@heckoff7904 yeah I know, but if the talking point is reducing blue light, well now you gave it something well know to be bad for you. UV actually degrades your eyes while at best blue light "might" strain them.

@meneldal

10 күн бұрын

@@Skylancer727 If you don't want your eyes to get a ton of UV you shouldn't be outside in the first place.

Not sure about adding a front light, but making it trans-reflective would make sense. Which was a technology that was used in early mobile phones with color screens and in a handful of laptops like the Toshiba Portege R500. The LCD had a backlight, but was also readable in direct sunlight with the backlight turned off.

i could see it being useful in my bedroom when is 2 in the morning & i would like a very dim light... but for that price I'm sure i can find a better indoor monitor that can get as dim but yeah this is clearly for OutDoor usage, maybe get Framework to add a Sunview Screen module as an option

Perhaps as this technology advances even further, and if they can lower the price, these monitors could be useful in a well-lit office environment. It would certainly help to cut the cost of electricity, and ?possibly? reduce the need to replace faulty displays. I dunno, a lot of speculation at this point I suppose. At least they seem to have a good use case for outdoor signage, as you mentioned.

Finally, a reason to go outside and touch grass with my sun powered display

1:58 I was getting worried, it's been a long time since the last mention of Liquid Crystal Display displays

I use a smart watch with a transreflective screen, the Amazfit Bip S. It also has its own lighting, so it's useable in either bright or dim situations. Sadly, later versions no longer have it, so I'm stuck using an older model.

Hmm.. What we need is mini-LED backlights where the LEDs are surrounded by mirrors. Would lose some filling factor by 2 or 3 but would still be f***ing bright in the 🌞! Even better would be micro-LED with a mirror-like layer directly deposited around the LED within the fab. A quick search shows people have already had success with deposition of highly reflective layers on silicon.

Finally, a perfect monitor to use with Andy’s monitor light bar.

I've been getting interested in reflective displays for a short while now and will probably switch to an e-ink phone in the near future. This as in bright sunlight emissive displays are hard to use, especially with a dark theme. And at night the display often doesn't go dark enough to be comfortable to look at, even with an added software filter that destroys contrast even further. The reduced power usage will also be significant in a portable device, especially beneficial for navigation as there the backlight is the most significant drain. I've seen reflective LCD displays in Casio's MIP watches, which have much better contrast thanks to lacking colour filters.

Hey Linus and team, curious what was the lux/lumen output of the bright light you were shining on it the display in the second half of the video? I suffer from seasonal affective disorder and my strategy to mitigate it has been to either go to Florida for the summer or buy $400 in light bulbs and light up my home office much brighter than the usual 300 lux you’d get in an office. I hit around 7,000 lux in my home office. I think this would be more usable than my current monitors that are a bit difficult to read.

*Beardless Linus hits differently*

@TheOfficialKiro67

11 күн бұрын

he looks younger this way, like back in his ncix days

@cyanidegaming69

11 күн бұрын

where did he hit you tho? on the aaah?

@yourfriendben2

11 күн бұрын

I cant tell if a video is new or just an old one I've never seen now😂

@SunWarrior155

11 күн бұрын

He looked like a hobo with the beard

@adityakhaprelap

11 күн бұрын

That's what his children say. (Jk)

10:23 WOW, that was a politically charged joke I never thought I would have heard from Linus (except WAN-Show). But I love it 😂👍

@Jourei_

11 күн бұрын

Florida has been up to so many wacky things it's starting to lose the politic-ness and become a meme. :D

@oofcloof

11 күн бұрын

@@Jourei_ If it was all libraries it would be wacky, but its only grade school libraries which seems reasonable to me - I don't think anyone would want their kids to check out a book with dildos or whatever in it without them knowing.

@krimmAnims

11 күн бұрын

@@oofcloofwha?? how is a book about homosexuality or gender instantly connected to sex in your mind? It could literally just be a story about someone figuring out who they are and how they feel… And they’d still burn it

@latech7671

11 күн бұрын

@@oofcloof I haven't looked too deep into it (since I am not affected by it) but I did come across the fact that Heartstopper (Book behind the Netflix Series) has been banned... ... and if that is eligible for bans then they should probably just ban most fictional books because most of them have some kind of love interest in them. What I find especially funny however is that the same people then argue that "the Bible" should be in those same libraries and while I do understand that it is more than a simple book for many, it still has all the content they are trying to sensor in it in a huge amount

@SlyNine

11 күн бұрын

​@@krimmAnimsthose are books deprecating sex acts and alot of the ideas reach back to the Kentler experiment.

There is a defunct panel tech called PIXEL QI. It was used on the OLPC XO-1 and I had one on the Notion Ink Adam. Like this it was a reflective Colour LCD but it had a front light. In sunlight reflective mode only Gray Scale was visible even though it was a colour panel. Indoor mode with front light it was a decent quality colour LCD just mildly washed out low contrast. I think that was the best compromise as it was very general purpose applicable.

@yensteel

10 күн бұрын

I miss that company too! I remember getting excited for the Adam because it means I can have tablet functionality everywhere, hiking, park, beach, anywhere. T-LCD and R-LCD are the best compromise between E-InK and LCD. Clover used their displays for outdoor laptops too. Eazeye could be in the right direction. They’re also using T-LCD. The low-power LCD tech of the e-paper pebble watches are also good. It’s also a great direction for tablets. No ghosting, excellent battery life, outdoor friendly, proven tech for 40+ years.

This would be amazing for an outdoor video shoot. Sun everywhere, plus if it's just 6W you could theoretically power it off a little USB battery bank.

The joke at 10:20 caught me by surprise lol

@ARandomInternetUser08

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, because the channel is a joke after that. They've lost my support after that. THIS A TECH CHANNEL, NOT POLITICS.

@snoopadillo

10 күн бұрын

@@ARandomInternetUser08 cry about it lol

@matheusode4427

10 күн бұрын

@@ARandomInternetUser08 get mad lol

@ARandomInternetUser08

9 күн бұрын

@@matheusode4427 speak for yourself, lefty kid.

The full saying is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste"

Very useful for working in the field. Be it a testing ground for robotics, autonomous systems and unmanned vehicles to events and what not. Sure not for indoors but thats not the targetted use. Trying compare it for indoors is like saying how useless is a bright flashlight in a well lit room.

Outdoor research for various science fields requiring them to be outside of a laboratory to collect data was one such case that came to mind. Practically ANY job that requires setting up outside for some period of time.

This on a phone would be a banger. Always readable awesome battery life and doesn’t burn your eyes out at night.

@khazareek

11 күн бұрын

You're correct if only for the fact that you wouldn't see anything at all at night. There is no light whatsoever, whatever ambient lighting bounces off the walls of your room during the day would not be there at night.

@jumpierwolf

11 күн бұрын

Yeah for sure man, it's pretty useable at night right after you turn on a really bright table lamp and point it directly at the phone. A lot easier to just use a regular phone with night mode and brightness turned down.

@Jourei_

11 күн бұрын

This, as an optional feature! Backlight turned on for the moments others commented.

@KARLOSPCgame

11 күн бұрын

If this thing is in the backscreen of (for example) Samsung Fold would be golden, you could actually use a phone outside to watch a movie

@deppe4202

11 күн бұрын

@@khazareek cant you build in like an smal backlight or like what the i ink display made. Also maybe then people would stop looking at their stupid phone all night

You should have tried that EInk display in direct sunlight.

I used to do some UAV flights and had to do some tweaking to the controllers and computer vision in the middle of nowhere with direct sunlight hitting the monitors. It was really hard to program under those conditions. I we had one of these (with a frontlight for cloudy conditions) it would have helped quite a lot. Most of the time we were running on portable batteries so having a monitor that is this energy efficient would have been a another plus.

If the price ever came down, I could see a place for one of these in one of those portable USB powered external monitors. I'd love to sit outside and work on nice days, but I can barely see my laptop screen so I don't. Slide one of these in front of it, and it would probably be fine given all it's limitations for lots of types of work (programming in my case).

6:08 "Since your eyes and your brain have GOD TIER auto white balance!" Then the perfect follow up example of shades of red (where your brain fills in white balance to the point of seeing blue tones in the water and sky! Dang, never thought about it before. Well exemplified team!

The full quote is, "The customer is always right *in matters of taste* "

I've been looking for a transflective monitor for years, but they've always been discontinued, or demo units, for incredibly expensive. The original OLPC (One-laptop-per-child) device had a transflective LCD.

i can definitely see the monitor being used in an educational/tutorial situation, where you want to film over a person's shoulder to view the screen they're working on. those would be theoretically closed off environments, so you should be able to control the light that you shine on the display exactly like shining the aputure light onto in in this video...

Linus perpetually struggles to imagine the use-cases for products he wouldn't directly benefit from. There's obvious use here for outdoor gatherings where you set up a place for folks (especially kids) to watch movies or play games. You likely wouldn't care about image quality, you'd just need to SEE the screen.

@ryx007

11 күн бұрын

Just watch the whole video maybe?

@inisipisTV

11 күн бұрын

He did stated the use of it, it’s just that it’s matter common knowledge his channel is focused more on PC Game tech than the various niche’ PC tech market.

@stevethepocket

10 күн бұрын

I feel like for those, you'd want a bigger screen than this though, more like TV sized.

10ms is perfectly fine for 60Hz

@kendokaaa

10 күн бұрын

No it isn't, even at 60hz 10ms means visible smearing. You don't want high response times no matter the refresh rate

@Lemoncit0

10 күн бұрын

@@kendokaaa obviously you are not gonna play competitively with a 60HZ display, for most games especially singleplayer ones 10ms 60hz is fine

@kendokaaa

10 күн бұрын

@@Lemoncit0 But it's not "fine", it's just usable

@hannahp642

10 күн бұрын

@@kendokaaa Whether it's fine depends on the use case.

Hey LTT I 1000% need this monitor but it needs to be a portable monitor. I am a HVAC Controls tech, I go roof top equipment often and can't see my screen at all while programming. This will work perfectly if it was portable and 15"!!

I can see this being useful for all sorts of business purposes. I'd like to see some kind of IP rating on it though. Having a way to boost brightness in low light conditions might be good too.

That Florida dig got me good🤣🤣

@WATSONMUTH

11 күн бұрын

great ,now foreigners telling us how should we raise our kids

@RealQuarlie

10 күн бұрын

​@@WATSONMUTHIsn't that what the US does with dozens of other countries forcefully around the globe? Oh wait, you just call it "liberating countries"... Got it...