I love how positive you are, Tom. You’re one of the few who don’t disparage anyone/ any act.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 🙏

Love that we can hear Matt from ESC United in the background. 🤣 It’s like a two for one review.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

haha yep bonus reaction 😊

Spain getting 5 points from the televote has got to be one of the worst things about this year. How gracious she was in accepting it somehow only makes it worse.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

she came down tot he press centre after to console people as well

@aliceameliajoseph9436

Жыл бұрын

The shocked faces, I was shocked too, I MEAN 5??!!!?!!??

@omaewamoushindeiru6581

Жыл бұрын

Then you have people wanting the jury votes to be gone. Make it make sense.

@waffleweave

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Her performance was so masterful!

@J4nda

Жыл бұрын

I think Blanca Palomas performance is very powerful and captivating, but as a song on it's own it's not listenable enough. Still it deserved more points.

Your face when Finland was called was gold!

@florenna

Жыл бұрын

And how the mike broke down - it only does that in the best parts ;D

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

I’m going to invest in a better microphone that can handle my drama 😂

Loved your reaction to Käärijä's huge televote result 😂I have also seen ESCunited Matts's reaction for that, and it's funny how you can hear nearby him predicting that war is coming 😅

It’s so funny hearing Matt talking in the background😂

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

lol i know, its a 2 for 1 reaction

@Merrixz

Жыл бұрын

Agree 😂

I soo wanted Kaarija to win ... The fact that Loreen was in it, pretty much meant that nobody else had a chance ... I thought Serbia would have done better , I really liked Luke Black

Your reaction to Finland's points lol :D

People are pissed because the winner was already chosen on friday after the juryshow, before a single televote was cast. And not even the second biggest televote score in the history could change that.

@madeleineskovby4475

Жыл бұрын

I don`t think you are right about this. Reading all the negative posts about her before final, the copy and paste comments accusing her of plagarism, winners should not be allowed to participate ESC and so on made me think she would not receive that good score that she received. My guess was she would get a 2 digit televote score based on this so I was happy the ”hate” against her didn`t influence tele voters that much.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

That’s not totally accurate. She still needed 186 Televote points to win. Which isn’t nothing, and she ended up getting a lot more than that

@kevytmelankolia3395

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom She got a huge lead from the juries. Was there really a way to beat that? People in the arena (or watching at eurovillage) didn't seem too pleased about the outcome. And looking at the breakdown of Finlands televote score, there might be a few voters whose favorite didn't win. Who is this show for?

@KyrieFortune

Жыл бұрын

​@@ESCTom 187 to win, 186 was to tie and then it would come down to how many sets of 12 points they had got - Finland got 18 from the public and 1 from the jury if I remember correctly, Sweden got 15 from the jury and 0 from the public, Finland would have likely won in case of a tie

“Let’s see if there’s peace or turmoil” little did you know…

I love all the faces that you were making, probably how i looked as well during that Finland vs Sweden final numbers 🤣

Nice how we could hear Matt from ESC united in the background. I love the idea of you all getting along and sharing the passion.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

yea hes a lovely guy

thank you for your videos this eurovision season, tom! the analytical nature of your videos really makes eurovision more fun, you're like the voice of reason in the community. especially right now when it seems like everybody is just fighting over who the winner should've been. looking forward to the next season and your videos on it!

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Thanks weronika 🙏🏻 I’m going to keep making for now though for the next few months

i love how everyone wanted Finland to win this year

@DerShadow

2 ай бұрын

Its was rigged can't convince me otherwise

I have loved watching your videos and thank you for defending our participation(Australia) in the competition. I hope we stay. I wish more of Europe understood that we have a HUGE European population here and SBS have the EBU partnership.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I really really really really really hope you guys come back next year 🇦🇺

There is a real danger here of the public eventually switching-off and saying to themselves "what's the point in voting" if the juries can crown their winner whilst overriding the public majority (who've all spent real money voting). After all, it doesn't cost the juries a penny to vote. With money being involved, maybe more sway should be given to the public in a 60/40 share. And Germany coming last is ridiculous but it exposes the juries for only having a limited palette in music. "Industry experts" they are not. I'm no fan of the song but I recognise talent recognise the genre and give credit where it's due in the marketplace.

@Sipu97

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The juries are just full of music business people who don't even evaluate the songs with the criteria that they are supposed to.

@esclad

Жыл бұрын

@@Sipu97 No, I don't think they are "full" of music business people. I think some are just tv celebrities, entertainment journalists. Not real music moguls.

@Sipu97

Жыл бұрын

@@esclad I have heard differently. I know that in the Finnish jury there's this guy Jonas Olsson (born in Sweden btw) who is a producer. And it goes on.

@esclad

Жыл бұрын

@@Sipu97 I'm not saying that NONE of them are from the music industry- but it's only 1 or 2 out of 5 or 6 people.

@Sipu97

Жыл бұрын

@@esclad Are you sure? And if you're right, it's very problematic, too. They are supposed to ojectively give their professional opinion on the performances. It's not looking good.

Turmoil it is, Tom. Utter turmoil.

Was waiting for this one!!

So sad for spain

Sweden deserved to win but MY GOD I'm so grateful for Kaarija (Finland) for entertaining us with his amazing performance and off-stage persona. Without him Loreen would have landslided both jury and public vote. Even the split screen moment was so interesting to me; one side is calm and polished, the other manic and scruffy 🤣I gave Finland all my votes for the authenticity, what a performer 💚

@UnscrambledEggs

Жыл бұрын

like lamb to the slaughter. it felt a bit like that. poor lad.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

That’s a very good point. If it wasn’t for him, the final could’ve been quite an awkward landslide

Thanks for all of your work throughout the Eurovision season Tom. I love getting your insights.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Kate 🙏🏻🥰. Make sure you stick around I've got more stuff coming soon, including my analysis of both semis and the final 🤩📊

Germany's poor result means that less and less people are interested in this show in this country. In the end it doesn't matter who we send to this show and what the performance is like. Obviously a country like Poland can send the most generic pop song ever and be rewarded with lots of points while we're always at the bottom of the table.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yea it’s disheartening. I think there’s definitely too much emphasis on pop. I know the majority of mainstream prefer it, but other genres should be able to come and not get destroyed

@Jasminis

Жыл бұрын

Yup Germany had no reason to come last, that was an amazing entry!... at least they get more fans.

@Werderina

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom If Germany sents pop, it will be ignored as well. 😂

@kiekendiefje

Жыл бұрын

@@Werderina Not necessarily! I loved Michael Schulte's song in 2018. One of my favorites that year! 🙂

@KyrieFortune

Жыл бұрын

You know Germany can't vote for its own entry, right? And no matter what people outside of Germany may think, of all these competitors only one has opened for Iron Maiden, one of the most legendary hard rock/hevay metal bands.

3:17 BAHAHAHAHA the best reaction

Let's goooo

These years results were so weird

I've followed Eurovision for many years now and i've never seen people being this dissatisfied with the results. I don't think peolpe are displeased with Loreen winning, just sad that Käärijä didn't. Especially because this is a Jury win and people are getting a bit annoyed at this pseudo democracy voting system. I'm still going to be an avid eurovision fan, but I think i'm gonna have a bit of a break to calm my tits about this, because I see myself getting more and more irritated about how this all ended. With that said i'm proberly still gonna watch your videos😅

@listonheinz9103

Жыл бұрын

The tele voting has to be balanced by a jury, a 50-50 split. Strict tele voting was used for several years, with bad outcomes.

@rikkeenora

Жыл бұрын

@@listonheinz9103 that i know... I know that if we only had televoting no ballad would win and it would be a contest of who could outdo the crazy to get votes. But the jury is incredibly biased and have proven to be corrupt on several occasions, because the jury is so small. I think that the people behind Eurovision should revise the juries going forward. Would that be a different scoring system, a larger pool of juries or something else. I think this year has proven that. I have actually been for the juries role in the competition, but i still think the winner should be the choice of Europe. Imo.

@tony0930

Жыл бұрын

​@@listonheinz9103 We need juries I guess, but something like a 40/60 or 30/70 spilt in favour of televote could solve this problem

@deadzoo

Жыл бұрын

@@tony0930I think we should keep juries but a 30/70 or 40/60 split for jury/televote would potentially improve the current situation, which is unsatisfactory. But the jury system also needs scrutiny; maybe a review of the criteria, how well the jurors interpret and adhere to the criteria, and also the diversity of the juries needs to be improved on different fronts. We can’t keep pretending that some countries don’t have an outsized influence with juries, and effectively have a head start.

@listonheinz9103

Жыл бұрын

@@tony0930 Then you would get a problem with clown acts and goofballs taking over the competition, like they were doing in the mid 00s. That would put off a 30%-40% of the viewership and EBU would loose money. The current system is a very good balance, perhaps minor tweaks could be made but it has to be 50/50.

I don't think we should be mad if Kaariya didn't win, he will have great success regardless so let's just be happy for him, it's just a song contest after all. ❤❤❤ Anyway I am proud of Marco's result and my favorite Australia in top 10 could n't ask for more really.

@florenna

Жыл бұрын

Well, yes, we have every right to be mad that rigged juries stole our victory... You don't understand how much it would have meant to all of Finland. Not even close.

I felt so bad for you regarding Serbia! How was it THAT FAR down at the bottom, almost last?! It should have been in the top 20!

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

i think it was just too out there for most people

@emeraldgreen1973

Жыл бұрын

​@@ESCTom unfortunately yes 😢

@beckettfitz1982

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom I guess the Balkan countries didn’t go for it?

@egyptianhibiscus9203

Жыл бұрын

@@beckettfitz1982 Which Balkan countries, when Montenegro, Bosnia and Macedonia are even not there. He got points from Croatia, Slovenia not much. This is not even Balkan taste. We hoped for international televote but it all went to Käärija.

I was sooooo gutted for Kaarija. In the public vote he got 12 points from EIGHTEEN countries, which is unbelievable...Loreen got 12 from 0 countries in the public vote...It just doesn't seem right. I think he deserved it more, personally.

@daviddelara7158

Жыл бұрын

But she still came 2nd overall in the televote - it’s not like she flopped

@kevytmelankolia3395

Жыл бұрын

@@daviddelara7158 Loreen got a good televote score. But for an already established artist, a beloved eurovision icon who got all those 12 points from the juries, not getting a single 12 from the public is downright embarrassing.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I understand how you feel. Although in fairness she did come second in the Televote, and also she’s got the best charting across Europe right now

As a Finnish person and a Eurovision fan I must say that the competition failed us all this year. Käärijä was this year's moment, legend and the icon and his victory would have been the perfect Eurovision story. He had the charm of Alexander Rybak, crazyness of Lordi, and song of Netta - and yet before all this he was an unknown young man even in his own country. He was the full Eurovision package who would have brought joy to the Eurovision scene for years to come. I can't stand that this story was destroyed by people who want Eurovision victories to be radio friendly English pop music - this means every country should just order the song from Sweden (like Azerbaijan, Malta or Cyprus often do). This jury plot kills the originality of the competition - if you can't win after getting historically large amount of televotes, why would you even bother?! It hurts even more to see that the biggest robbery in ESC history was against my own country. Finland has won only one time and we would have taken the victory with over the top pride and excitement. Next years hosting would have been a huge pride. But now we'll see the 3th Swedish hosting in little over 10 years. Haven't we seen enough of that already?

@annag1202

Жыл бұрын

I’m British and feel the same and just absolutely gutted for Käärijä and Finland, for me all the joy of Eurovision left me on Saturday night. It’s beyond ridiculous that you could receive so much support from the public and still not win. I actually won’t watch Eurovision next year, I have no enthusiasm for another show from Sweden and I’m not an Abba fan and we know it will all centre around them. But I’m not just disappointed for Finland but other performers who should have received recognition from the jury, what is their purpose if they are just going to give points to the same boring manufactured pop? I’m so sorry but Kiitos Suomi for introducing us to the joy that is Käärijä, he will always be remembered and I hope will join other legends like Verka Seduchka. Also congratulations for cha cha cha being in the U.K. charts, I don’t think we have ever had a song in Finnish before, that’s actually a higher achievement than Loreen in my opinion. Lots of love from the U.K. 🇬🇧💚🇫🇮

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yes I completely feel your sadness. I also would’ve loved to have gone to Tampere in Finland. But success in the competition is not just about winning. This year käärijä showed Finnish culture, language rapping, and he was an amazing ambassador for the country. So all that amazing work that he did is not lost just because he didn’t win. Also Finland national final right now is so amazing, you’ve qualified three years in a row and there’s no reason to think that you aren’t going to continue sending amazing songs because the system is so good. If you do that then you will eventually win

@l1lium

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom it's also ironic that the last time Finland won (being also the first time) the points were given by just televotes. No juries included. If there were juries, Sweden would also probably won that year. After Finland won and then next year Serbia, esc decided that "we don't like that voters decide wrong winners" and they brought back juries... So yeah, thanks I hate it. Yet again, Finland won with televotes, just like last time. It's still funny that esc said that jury helps to make the competition more equal and prevents countries from givin 12 points to countries next to them (ah yes, just like Greece and Cyprus) and prevents political voting. I wonder how political Finland's and Serbia's wins were. Yes, Verka's "russia goodbye" might have been counted as political, but it got the 2nd place, sooo idk what substances the esc people took

@elvinam888

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for all the sympathies! ❤💚 :)

@elvinam888

11 ай бұрын

@@l1lium Juries were actually brought back after Russia won in 2008, not after Serbia won ;) I think the win was credited to diaspora, so the juries were brought in to combat that; and rightfully so, as to me, Russia 2008 is one of the worst winners ever.

Serbia deserved more points ❤️

@venlakirahvi

Жыл бұрын

He's ahead of his time, the great public are not ready yet, sadly

@egyptianhibiscus9203

Жыл бұрын

Today is his birthday 😀

Australia - the difference between the semi, which they won easily with Australia's best ever televote result, and the 21 points in the final, is very strange. Best part, though, is the Voyager reaction. They thought it was hilarious! They were just having the best time, and a semi win and top 10 in the final is a brilliant result for them, that they are absolutely stoked with. They are just the BEST people.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re really awesome. Austria had a similar thing but that could be explained more by the running order. I’m going to look into this when I go through the numbers for semi number two in my analysis video of that

@7:33 - @7:38 😀 Loved that reaction!

I can see Belgium pulling off a win in the next few years. If you told me in February Gustaph would be 7th place I wouldn't believe you LMAO. Also I'm glad Ukraine broke their own curse by still doing great a year after winning

This was the least predictable top 10 ever. I guessed only Sweden, Finland, Australia and Czechia being top 10. I fully expected Spain Austria and France to get top 10 and then- Running order chose *chaos* this year

@user-gs3yf7dv8r

Жыл бұрын

Every year they are not predictable

And people say they want the jury gone! 😅😂

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Never ever me. We absolutely need them. Just need to modernise them though and have better representation

@erinnadia0409

Жыл бұрын

Yes that's what I believe too! They need to be educated on other genres! Because what they did to Germany and Spain was also a crime

I still think that the jury's overwhelming drive for Loreen is quite weird. Objectively, Euphoria is a better song, so why the jurys ditched all other "jury bate" songs like Spain, and collectively chose Loreen and Loreen only? If we'd look into how many Spotify and Warner representatives were in the jury's, what would we find?

@heppolo

Жыл бұрын

Smoke and mirrors/LEDs

@johnny11415

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point if you are a producer and work for a label that has contestants participating how can you be impartial?

@deadzoo

Жыл бұрын

Agree on the points about other songs like Eeaa from Spain (or even Watergun from Switzerland) that should have been obvious jury darlings and got very little attention from them ultimately. To my mind, many don’t wish to acknowledge or question the headstart that Sweden seems to have every year with the juries, and/or wonder why that might be the case. It’s just accepted almost as a natural occurrence. Conversely, smaller countries are severely disadvantaged by not having a similar degree of influence. Edited because I misread Euphoria as Tattoo in your comment! 🤓

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yea it’s an aspect that i haven’t thought of too much. Honestly I don’t know how you find people who have no business connections but also have the relevant music industry knowledge and expertise

@heppolo

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom music critics/journalists/scholars/academia, but that would be a bit too academic and probably no fun

oh, if only Alessandra hadn't done bad with the juries... This gives me flashbacks from Keiino. WHY YOU HATE US JURY?? Love from salty Norwegian. Also, happy for Loreen! (because that means I can just take the bus to the show next year?). Rooted for Käärijä with all my heart though. Gutted for Germany. At our eurovision party everyone had Finland as number 1 and Germany as number 2!

I really didn't like the results. The jury vote was terrible, to much politics and a lot of the jury wanted Finland to lose. The public vote. People that are willing to vote, only vote for pop english songs or songs with crazy themes. Any other tipe of songs will recive low points from the public, especially balads, except for Italy for some reason. That beautiful song from Spain deserved better than five points, and germeny didn't deserved to be last place. I think there was a time i between 2016 and 2021 that any type of song could win, but now we are back to pop english songs and crazy songs being the only ones to recebe big points from the public. 123 points for Poland is a joke.

@liul

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@tony0930

Жыл бұрын

Agree, and I think King Käärija would've won in any other year because this year the margin between Sweden and Israel was way to big

@ZakhadWOW

Жыл бұрын

you are so full of crap it makes my eyes bleed. "The jury wanted Finland to lose". And let's see your legally binding evidence on that, since you are wiling to slander/libel people without any concrete proof.

Thanks, Tom! I fell asleep during the jury votes, and missed the whole thing ( and my mom didn't wake me up for the public votes. 😠)

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Omg I literally have nightmares about that 😭

Thanks Tom for all the great videos again this year, I do love that you always remain balanced although I have to say that this year I don’t feel that way myself. Never felt so miserable and deflated after Eurovision even if the winner wasn’t a song I liked. Might have to give it a miss next year as seeing so much injustice really has got to me this time. Can’t help wishing we could ditch the bookmakers and juries and just enjoy the music without all the pressure.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I understand how you feel. I’m kind of used to it now just from the disappointment in previous years 😂 . But on the flipside, if you get what you want every single year then it doesn’t feel special. So you need to go through the disappointment years so that the winning years feel more special

@annag1202

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom bless you for the kind words, I really ought to be used to it too, been watching since age 5 in 1971 😂 I can’t actually remember the last time a favourite has won so I was really hoping that Käärijä was going to make it that special year. Gutted for Serbia too, my joint favourite and my daughter even bought me a cuddly lobster mascot 😂🦞 oh well, just got to keep waiting and hoping. Take care and once again thank you, your reaction to Luke qualifying was the highlight of the year. Love from U.K. 🇬🇧💕

@tilda3262

11 ай бұрын

People often forget that Duncan (One of the most successful winning songs) came 3rd in the televote and 2nd in the jury and still won. Nobody had a problem with that back then

I initially felt crushed by some of the low scores, but yea this breakdown makes me feel way better about it. I've seen a lot of people say there shouldn't be a jury vote but with out that it would be a very interesting race for last place with a few of my favourites

@venlakirahvi

Жыл бұрын

I agree the jury system does have some positive sides to it and should not be completely abolished. However I think there's a LOT of room for improvement

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the jury is absolutely vital to the competition for various reasons. It can always be tinkered and improved on but definitely not removed

Apart from the situation with the juries, the second shocker for me this year was learning that almost no other country apart from Finland (I think the other one was Estonia?) shows translated lyrics as subtitles for every song performed in a foreign language (when watching via the national broadcaster). As someone who grew up watching Eurovision and became accustomed to understanding what each singer is singing about, it's so hard to believe! How is it supposed to be a fair competition when the only way to understand lyrics in foreign languages is to check them separately? You just get punished for using any other language than English. Also it would allow people with hearing problems to enjoy the show better. I hope EBU at least offers official translations on their website or something... How have they not figured this out yet? I'm baffled. It would obviously cost some, but it would be worth it a million times.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

yea i remember talking to someone about this earlier in the season. In Ireland and the UK, the translations are never shown. You can turn them on yourself if you want, but I literally dont know a single person who has ever done that. Yea, its an interesting thing, maybe it should be done more. Subtitles are actually becoming more common now. Interestingly in China, EVERYTHING is subtitled, literally every single TV program of every type, including films

I think I'd prefer next year's ESC to be just a little less intense. I feel I'm still a little emotionally hungover from all of this, but it was a great year. Did I hope, deep inside, to get the show at my doorstep next year? Yes, mainly to get a chance to see this madness live, for once. But maybe, we'll celebrate in Tampere 2025? This time, we're celebrating Loreen, and let's not dim the shine of her crown with any more bad feelings. It was crazy, it was party, and this year is stuck kn our memories like a tattoo fir many years to come. I loved following your Eurovision commentary. You showed us all that having favourites doesn't mean hating on the other contestants. Everyone who takes part in Eurovision is already a winner. 💚💚💚

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Lena for the lovely message. Yeah Tampere 2024 would’ve been absolutely awesome, but with the way UMK is recently, I think you guys are going to win soon. You can see already that you’ve qualified three years in a row and if you keep qualifying year after year with good entries eventually you’re going to get the win

@Leena79

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom I hope so - and I hope Ireland finds their groove, too, maybe with something more traditional with a modern twist? In Irish?

I can hear Matt from ESC Younited lol

How do u think they would do a 60/40 system? maybe If every country sent 15-1 points to their respective top 15, then the jury still does their top 10 with the classic 12 points. Would this work?

we dont need jury in ESC 👎 Finland was the winner of people at home...if jury wants to have points, so they should keep ESC as private event without TV votes and without viewers then 😒

@omaewamoushindeiru6581

Жыл бұрын

Spain got 5 tele votes which is so undeserved. Glad there is a jury with some common sense. And glad Loreen won too, she was the best.

@florenna

Жыл бұрын

@@omaewamoushindeiru6581 You are a hateful Swedish spammer (despite using a Japanese username).

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

We absolutely and utterly do need the jury at Eurovision. Later on I’ll do a video explaining all the reasons why

It was at this point Sweden had already won - thx to the jury

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Well she still needed to get 186 points from the Televote as well

@jxhl666

Жыл бұрын

​@@ESCTom but she was known to be one of the fan faforites with Finland and Norway. Norway was totally robbed and Finland only had an illusion of a chance with those jury votes. They gave 1 out of 3 fan favorites a huge head start and ingored almost everyone else.

You seemed quite ok with Germany‘s 15 points public vote…. 😂 At Eurovision it’s just like that: As a German you have low expectations and still get disappointed. The only thing we can change is having no expectations at all.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

yea, after only 3 points in the jury, 15 points suddenly seems like a lot, 5 times more to be exact 😭

@Werderina

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom sad but true!

Tom, what would happen in the very unlikely event of a tie? Cheers

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

person with the higher televote wins. then if still tied, person who got points from most countries

@jmch2186

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom Thanks Tom, hope you are fully recovered now 😀

Watching the points being handed out was nerve-racking. I really like "Cha Cha Cha" and I will listen to it many times in the future, but I also love "Tattoo" and as a swede I naturally wanted Loreen to win. Make her a two time winner, get us the 7th win to tie with Ireland and bring ESC to Sweden where I hopefully will get to see it for the first time. And apart from the top 2 battle, it was also interesting to see that there were a few surprises this year. I never saw the appeal of Spains entry, but based on the odds and how people have talked about it I expected a top 10 finish atleast, maybe top 5. Same with France - a song that I really liked, but it wasn't as good in the final. Also nice to see Belgium finishing so high. I wasn't sure if it would do well. Surprised that Germany ended up in 25th though. I thought it would be atleast top 20.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Spain and France are some of the biggest surprises for me. I myself said that Spains Televote is either going to be very high or very low, so although I’m disappointed it was low, it’s not a massive surprise. But France for example, I had no idea they were going to do so bad in both of Jury AND the Televote. I saw her jury performance and it wasn’t perfect but it definitely wasn’t as bad as they rancour

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

As they ranked her*

I’ve been following Eurovision since 2008 and never has there been a more bizarre voting sequence than this year. I can usually predict how well certain countries will do, but this year was just quite odd. Estonia, Belgium, Australia, Lithuania and Cyprus all in the top 12 surprised me quite a bit. Spain, France and Austria were absolutely robbed. Also, all of my bottom 3 (Poland, Albania and Croatia) came top 10 with the televote, that has also never happened to me. Still, at least I’m quite happy with the top 2 since I had Sweden and Finland both there. Loreen deserved to win and is an absolute Eurovision legend. Her voice, performance and emotions are really next level. Sad for Finland as this was their only realistic chance at winning since 2006, but Kaarija’s vocals were just too weak. He did well with the juries (came top 4 like I predicted), but overall, 2nd place is really amazing for Finland. I’m looking forward to next year 🥰

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

yea i agree about the vocal thing, he would have lost a lot of points in the jury final being weaker in the singing part. i think anyone looking for an excuse to mark him down could use that as a reason

@gabesalgado789

Жыл бұрын

I'm one who ranks the ethnic bops at the top and screams about how they are underrated, especially Fulenn and Albania in most years. However, I do not understand how anyone can listen to Spain 2023. It is unlistenable to me. 5 points well deserved. Much love to Blanca, I respect her as an artist. But sorry in my view, this last place in the televote was well placed.

@regulusarcturus

Жыл бұрын

@@gabesalgado789 I get that the song wasn’t for everyone but she gave a flawless performance and is one of the strongest vocalist ever at Eurovision. Additionally, she didn’t just stand there in a dress and had a very visually strong and interesting performance. 5 points when Albania and Poland came into the top 10 in the televote just doesn’t seem fair. That’s why we need the juries.

@gabesalgado789

Жыл бұрын

@@regulusarcturus Well clearly the song was not for the majority as the televote showed, but I really respect her artistry. Both vocally and visually. This was a strong year I think! I do agree with you that we need the juries with no changes.

@regulusarcturus

Жыл бұрын

@@gabesalgado789 Well she came second in the televote, which has happened with a number of recent winners so it’s still a well deserved win.

7:57 Auto translate says " If Lane wins its because she did buy a little Nutella boat so its win-win either 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Oh lol although it’s kinda of not bad cos I can actually tell which sentence you mean but how it sounds 😂

@whisper5706

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom yes 😂😂 its not bad but its really fun xD

just a thought. why couldn’t irish just send an authentic irish song and then have a river dance dance break. we’d slay the day away. even just have a modern touch to an irish dance thing and we’d literally get so much love for it

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

well that was kinda done in 2014 and 2013 and it didnt really work

@harrybrown7356

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom forget what i said by modern touch let’s just go old school 😅. irish “modern” just comes off as cringey for the most part. there’s so many issues with ireland in eurovision i’m just lost for hope at this point.

@harrybrown7356

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom our best bet is to send something similar to our junior eurovision last year . simple irish ballad type song. we need to go a different route for sure and i think connecting to our culture could be the way to go

@BlueMangoHorse

Жыл бұрын

I've literally been praying for this for YEARS, I voted for France in 2022 and would vote for another Celtic song in a heartbeat

Abbavision, here we come. I'm probably not going to tune in, though. This was bullshit.

Finally.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for things to cool down a bit 🔥

@gabesalgado789

Жыл бұрын

@@ESCTom Haha that might take several months or years I think 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚 Count 'em! Just keep doing what you're doing!

Have you noticed the interesting trend for winners over the years? 2015 was a kind of pop style up-tempo anthem, 2016 was an Avant-garde ethnic infused emotional song, 2017 was very slowed down, a ballad very emotionally performed as well. 2018 brought us Toy, with an up-tempo bubblegum pop sound to it. 2019 slowed down again with sort of an anthemic quality to it. 2021 we got a Rock song winner, 2022 was more ethnic infused folk, and now in 2023 we have a beautiful pop song once again. Given the trend, I would imagine next year's winner will likely not be a pop song. Perhaps if Ireland were to go back to their roots and bring in some Celtic music, they'd stand a great chance in the running. I'd also love to see the UK experiment with a more Scottish (bagpipes) and/or Wales driven song. Maybe it'll be the year a Country or even a Jazz song might do well. The different genres winning from year to year as of late, has really been of interest to me. I'm also super excited that Canada is supposed to be coming in as well (rumoured anyways) as I'm Canadian myself lol. Anyways, thank you for your coverage! I really enjoy your videos man! I'm so excited Loreen won this year, and I'm happy she and Kaarija are friends (though really, they are friendly with everyone in the competition it seems, and that's wonderful.) It looked like you had an amazing time at the live event this year, and I hope someday I'll be able to go myself.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yea I hope we keep getting this mix up because I love having very different and exciting winners. Even this year was a standard pop song but the staging was spectacular. I feel since 2016 we have more variety in the winners, I’m proud of all of them

@kiekendiefje

Жыл бұрын

We (NL) sent a countrysong in 2014 (2nd place), in 2016 (11) and in 2018 (18) we sent a countryrocksong which didn't do well at all (I loved it a lot myself though) so if we were to send yet another countrysong we might win you say? 😇🙂🙃

6:25 - 7:00 Interesting how Australia won the semi (so therefore won the televote in SF2) and Estonia got 10th in the semi but in the grand final, Estonia got more televotes than Australia. So much to analyse here, did the running order in the semi with Estonia being 4th and Australia closing the semi have a huge impact? (Especially considering Australia won the televote and then did poorly with the televote in the final). Did more people vote for Estonia in the semi assuming that without juries Estonia might NQ? (Surely with jury Alika would have finished top 3 with juries at least so she would be through regardless of televote score, but since it was televote only perhaps more people showed up to vote for her?)

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

yea this is one of the things that im going to cover in my Final analysis video, because i was to investigate if its an Australia thing, or a SF2 being weaker thing, or a bit of both

As a Finn, this was *most definitely* both the most exciting & also the most stressful voting sequence ever in Eurovision history!!! I will never, ever forget it. I almost couldn't bear to watch 😮 Like you at 10:22 I was covering my face and head at the end, like "this is too much"... 😅 Until then everything was going so well & right, but that was such a crushing anticlimax... (It's even almost painful to see how you can be so calm watching this, and in such sterile environment, when we were all in living rooms with dim lighting, drinks etc. 😅) People had said before the final that Finland needs to be at least 4-5th in jury votes to have a chance to win; we were 4th, which I was really happy about, and yet it still wasn't enough... Because juries had given Sweden such an unbeatable lead that no one on this planet could ever overtake :( But I'm still happy that I got to experience all this, even if the ending was so unjust! 🥲

@michaelkjellander9370

Жыл бұрын

It was not only the jury score that made Sweden unbeatable, she got a very good televoting score as well which people seem to forget. The jury score combined with the televoting score made her unbeatable. She wasn't even the most "overrated" entry by the juries: 1. Estonia, 124 diff 2. Australia, 109 diff 3. Sweden, 97 diff 4. Spain, 90 diff 5. Austria, 88 diff

@Scheherasad

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelkjellander9370 the gap between Loreen and the jury second place were over 160 points , this is overrated, this huge gap happened never before

@florenna

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelkjellander9370 ​ Yes, exactly as Scheherasad said, that kind of huge gap made it impossible for anyone else to win, in practice. :( So, it matters not one iota if she was 2nd in televotes or 10th.

@michaelkjellander9370

11 ай бұрын

@@florenna What are you talking about? Of course it mattered, she needed at least 187 points in the televote to win. If Loreen would have ended up around 4-5th place in the televote she would have lost.

I was really fuious that juries did not gave the rophy to Finland

How does the televoting work? I mean where are the votes coming from? Is it from viewers? From all over the world including Europe or excluding?

@kiekendiefje

Жыл бұрын

The televotes are those from every country competing in Eurovision this year (and yes from viewers at home) whether you as a country make it to the grandfinal or not. The thing which is new this year are the televotes from countries not competing whether in Europe or anywhere else in the world. Those votes are combined into a virtual extra country ' the rest of the world' and then you get their 1-12 points for the televoting scores

@noellenn2122

Жыл бұрын

@@kiekendiefje so does this mean it’s possible for European voters to vote twice - once as competing country viewers and another as anywhere else in the world, assuming that would be using a different number for televoting?

@kiekendiefje

Жыл бұрын

@@noellenn2122 No that is not possible. The rest of the world are the countries in Europe NOT competing in Eurovision that year plus the countries outside of Europe

@KyrieFortune

Жыл бұрын

​@@noellenn2122 the voting system checks your number prefix, so no

I don't see why the Greek Jury shouldn't give Cyprus douze points, if they like the song. It was a good song. Why give it to someone else, whose song they like less, just becos 'someone may have had a word'.

If Germany wins soon, when they host so many people would tune in since they have 86M population?

@ESCTom

7 ай бұрын

yea their viewing figures are already high and they would go higher

I voted for Albania and I don't have an Albanian bone in my body lol (I also voted for the UK, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Finland of course, Ukraine cuz I was with a Ukrainian friend, Israel, Belgium, and Australia, maybe a few more I'm forgetting. Where'd some of THOSE votes go lol)

Spewin'.

The thing that has sort of started to irk me a bit is the fact that this has to be a competition with one winner. I don't like that the songs have to be ranked and some even publicly humiliated with low scores. What if we had multiple prizes to give like in award shows and the hosting country could be chosen through other means? We could have a draw between those willing to host or then we could just go through every willing country in a random order. Idk, this current situation just makes me feel bad every year.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s one of the reasons why I try to put an emphasis on what a big achievement it is to get top 10 and also even just to get top 13, which is the left side of the scoreboard. Even just qualifying is such a massive achievement for some countries as well

I think the power of creating the running order is still very unfair. In my oppinion they should go like in the NFL thet the worst the year before get the best spot and the best ones get the worst. Would give an advantage to weaker countries and make the whole thing fairer.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

You need to keep in mind that it’s a business and there’s funding issues right now. That’s why we lost north Macedonia Bulgaria and Montenegro. So they have to make it the most entertaining show possible to keep the competition alive

voting results is always my least favorite part of eurovision

The fact that Germany came last is disgusting, and Australia also got too few points. They were both so good! The UK finishing low is less surprising, it just wasn't a good performance.

I feel it boils down to this: Put Kaarija and Loreen in separate years and I dont think you have all the bitching and moaning.

@ESCTom

Жыл бұрын

yea theres a huge amount of luck in Euroviison. Take any Eurovision winner and put it in another year and you've already got someone losing their title. So much luck in who happens to be competing in your year

Zasto se Srbija plasira tako lose po tebi 😢

@ESCTom

11 ай бұрын

It was my number 1 this year

Impressive that they managed to deliver a nail-biter despite Sweden being the clear favourite to win and Käärijä smashing the televote as expected. I'm actually really happy for Loreen. I've watched her winner's reprise a LOT. I cheered when Norway got their televote! ALMOST makes up for snubbing Spain. haha.

I wanted Finland to win but I accept Sweden takes the prize. Germany deserved last place; their entry was crap. Ditto for Spain. Eaea was my 37th song too.

@Werderina

Жыл бұрын

Of course Germany always deserves last! 😂 as a result, more and more Germans are losing interest in this predetermined event.

Svicarska😡👎😬

Sweden deserve to win .best good song 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉