Somebody was messin' where they ought not to be messin'. Good job tracking down the issues. And good job for holding your tongue about not getting the whole story.

@donald1056

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly right - somebody had no business doing anything to this car - leaving all that disconnected and the wrong amp fuses - not good

I like how you stated to the audience, unwaveringly, "I'm going to charge the customer for 2 hours of diagnostics" as he stood next to the car.

@stronkvodka731

3 жыл бұрын

Makes me feel good 😊

As a computer and network technician, I can totally reassure you, that plugged in cables and connectors in fact do change locations over night without any kind of human interaction. Depending on where you live, it may either be faerie circles, leprechauns, energies from waterveins or just a disturbance of the force. It is simply a pain, to go through all the wiring, searching for what has been messed with, includung checking all the stuff that hasn't been messed with and to check if it really hasn't been messed with. Great diagnostic and I'm sure, this won't be the last electrical excorcism we have seen on this car :)

@psdaengr911

3 жыл бұрын

As a network engineer who dealt with system replacement and rebuilding unreliable rats-nest racks of servers slapped together by impatient Microsoft certified and college graduate "engineers" I can assure you that the better things are labelled and documented, and not touched by incompetents, the fewer the number of mis-connections are needed to be fixed by good technicians. Whatever was "saved" by having a doofus work on this VW, was lost on wasted owners time and Pine Hollow fixing what was screwed up.

@davyarthurs

3 жыл бұрын

@@psdaengr911 I guess you may have an issue with MCSE certified individuals. As a holder of such a certification, people always treat me the opposite of what I hoped in life. But hey, documentation and labelling goes along way for those coming in fresh/those with a poor old memory like mine.

@michaelreeves8164

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with what you say. I have often found the leprechaun you suspect has gone on sick leave while one is rectifying the mysterious anomalies.

Honesty is a two way street. Everyone has heard stories of dishonest mechanics and garages. Unfortunately, it's not uncommon for customers to lie or withhold important information. Good job, on the diagnosis.

@gailtaylor1636

3 жыл бұрын

People seem to think it will cost more if they tell the tech the truth. BTDT. It's annoying as hell.

@joekuntzman4016

3 жыл бұрын

@@gailtaylor1636 yeah I agree. They are just putting new obstacles on the way to solving the problem. Foolish

@Cheepchipsable

3 жыл бұрын

I suspect he hasn't a clue. Most people don't know what's important and what's not. I'm going with someone tried to install/fix the stereo, blew a fuse, got frustrated then began swapping fuses, forgot where they were and just left it. May not have been the owner. It also goes the other way. The information you impart may have nothing to do with the problem and lead the mechanic down the wrong path. EricO has had this many times.

@michaelfraser5723

11 ай бұрын

people lie like they breathe

@michaelfraser5723

11 ай бұрын

but is withholding, the same as lying?

The most frustrating repairs where always the ones that the customer messed up themselves. Even when told, they would still deny it. We made sure that they paid

It reminds me of my ex, just won't communicate and leaves it to you alone to find what's gone wrong.

@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176

3 жыл бұрын

Thank god she is your ex! Just a few minutes of description can be so helpful from an observative person. Something tells me she was not very self aware either.

@jumpinjojo

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in one of those relationships right now. I'm not a mind reader, so if she won't speak up, her issues won't get resolved. She likes to keep them inside. Fine with me!

Just want to clarify, I did not move fuses, Nor did i unplug anything lol. Once I saw the network was down I pretty much stopped right there. I dont have alot of experience with VW so that's why I called you and told my friend I would feel more confortable the car being looked at by someone who knows them and can tackle it. I'm sure I would have been fine but I didnt have all my stuff with me or Alot of my service info stuff. Anyways great find Ivan. I just wanted everyone to know none of the mysteries was my doing lol!

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Devon! Thanks for the clarifications! Must have been the other "buddy" who got his hands on it before you did 😉

@stevejones8665

3 жыл бұрын

I believe you Devon. Sometimes it doesn't pay to have friends who don't know exactly what there doing having a go at fixing stuff. Obviously we all try to save hard earned money when we can and friends usually are just trying to help a friend. Hopefully it was just a glitch and your car keeps going for many years to come. Good luck.🤞🤞👍👍 Well done again Ivan.👍👍

@stevejones8665

3 жыл бұрын

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics It's the old saying Ivan too many cooks spoil the broth. Or in this case just the 1 too many.😉🙂👍👍

@inothome

3 жыл бұрын

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Reminds me of dealing with auction cars. Where shitty bidders would do easy things to try and get a car cheaper out of the auction house since it would be a non running vehicle.

@devonmorder4150

3 жыл бұрын

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics No problem, I didn't even know about the fuses till after you were there then my friend told me his friend was moving stuff around and was also in the back messing around with the fuel pump. I was out there other day and he asked if I would look at the 350z for the parking lights not working. I put my test light on the fuse and they worked, took my light off and they shut off. The fuse was blown and had a thin wire wrapped around the legs of it...... Smfh

Whomever was in there before had no clue. Thanks for bringing us along, Ivan.

Like Eric would say...”well there’s your problem lady”.

@5Dale65

3 жыл бұрын

And "somebody did a hoky-poky" instead of "swaptronics" xD

Great job troubleshooting, Ivan! In part 2, watch Ivan scrape off all of the juvenile decals and remove all of the aftermarket junk.

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

Ivan off camera hey man I know it was you moving fuses around trying hook up your amplifier. Fuses don’t just jump into the wrong slots.

some people shouldn't drive and some people shouldn't touch things they dont understand....get em told Ivan...

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t play with things unless you know what your doing. Fuses have ratings for a reason you just can’t put a higher rating fuse where it shouldn’t be just going to fry more electronics. They are there to protect from spikes they blow to protect sensitive equipment.

Jesus, customers that fiddle but havent a clue what they're doing. Charge plenty!

Happens very rare. Nameplate accurately describes vehicle, maybe owner too.

Wow, someone messed with it. Not putting things back the way they were supposed to. Mmmm? Great diagnosis!

Seems like an auction vehicle where someone tampered with it to get a better price.

@Dirtyharry70585

3 жыл бұрын

But it would never have driven from A to B

@Spelter

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dirtyharry70585 depending on what he could meddle with and if more people meddled with different stuff.

@stevesas4744

3 жыл бұрын

Or car had another issue where a technician found and fixed the issue but disabled car until he was paid. Happens when no parts are used for the fix.

I'm wondering if someone was trying to hook up a sound system with the loose blue wire hanging near the under hood fuse box, blew some fuses, and got over their head and gave up after fuse swapping...

@likearockcm

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely scenario, for sure.

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

Like the owner himself

Oh Eric O was having a meltdown when you called that an aftermarket amp wire instead of aftermarket garbage!! 🤣🤣🤣

@sumduma55

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand their aversion to aftermarket items like lights, amps, sound systems and so on. I understand the oem parts thing but amps and sound systems and crap are nothing but a way for someone to upgrade or personalize a cheap car. If it ends up causing issues they have to fix, it is just a paycheck. I understand it might be easier without that crap installed but they charge by the hour not symptom. I figure they should love the extra income.

@bigdaddymak1439

3 жыл бұрын

@@sumduma55 you'd have to work in a shop it's crap because a lot shops butcher a cars wiring and almost 100% of DIYers are even worse. Go watch @southmainauto video when he worked on a conversion van and you'll understand better

@sumduma55

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigdaddymak1439 and they are getting paid to fix it. It's honest easy money.

"Not that I am aware of". Sounds just like "I don't recall".

I've seen fuses and relays that weren't properly installed pop out by themselves during a drive. Could have been the original issue, and the fuel pump disconnection was built in by the previous "diagnosis".

Every time I see someone tried or wire aftermarket components to the vehicle electrical system it always makes me cautious about potential cause of problem. Well done as usual Ivan, well done!

@Spelter

3 жыл бұрын

If it's done properly, you shouldn't have problems. Of course that means knowing what you do lol

@PistonShack

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spelter I agree with that if installation was done professionally. Good point!

@Spelter

3 жыл бұрын

@@PistonShack but the installations I saw most of the time was like "ok we take power from this cable with this clipper and some tape" and then the owner came to me with his battery draining over night. Turns out, they got the power of cable 30, battery plus, instead the ignition plus. And of course, no fuse is used in this mess.

@PistonShack

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spelter So true, I see it everywhere: trucks, excavators, bulldozers ect.

Excellent video Ivan. I'm glad to see that I'm the only one to use pen and paper. Looks like someone putting there fingers where they don't belong. Or to many chiefs 🤔 I just did a Chevy pickup,customer complaint not running right AND NO ONE HAS TOUCHED IT. IT was running on only 1 bank. Make this short it was missing a fuse for the right bank injectors made me think it was a set up lol,but it wasn't. Be well

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

Those damn fuses just disappear into thin air I tell ya! 😅

@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176

3 жыл бұрын

It must have been those pesky extraterrestrials! I have heard of abducting people but now it is fuses!

Yup,it is an human error 90% of the time.Brilliant approach to the problem Ivan 👌

Ivan you moved one fuse and the system came back. This is looking more and more like an Eric O. see if you're lying test. Great video, stay well.

Wow what a critical thinking question regarding the OBD port connector causing the voltage reading. Easy easy easy to over look…my immediate thought was biased voltage somehow…..sometimes the most simplistic cause is the likely cause. Man I love learning from you Ivan. Well done as always.

Be careful whom you trust. Somebody definitely wanted to test your skills. You are great at what you do and I love your videos. This is the 1st one when to manny quencicenes gave me the feeling to pack it in and run to safty. Fortunately these people ment no harm just please watch your back, unlike law enforcement we don't go packin and trust everyone to much. Otherwise great work, always loved your work, explanations and professionalism.

HELLO ivan! Nice job as always! I love VWs! They just think a little different... The thing I love the most about Euro cars are SPECS & TOLERANCES. They aren't SLOPPY.

@jimhaines8370

3 жыл бұрын

A little different is nice way of talking about that family member that gets picked up by the short bus everyday

Ivan, Great video and fix - thank you! Something not right - how do drive a car around 'for a few days' with the network fuse missing and the fuel pump/sender disconnected? You did NOT get the whole story. Paul (in MA)

@gailtaylor1636

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't get ANY of the real story.

I see it also has the patented high dollar unfused heavy gauge amplifier wire going through the door jamb, in blue too. Just in case you not only want to burn down the car, but the garage too!

@SeersantLoom

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't there something fuse-like @9:30 on upper right corner. Not the right place for a fuse thou.

As Eric O would say! You can smell the frustration of the failed repairs! As always great diag Ivan! I wonder what they were chasing to begin with 🤦‍♂️

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

We'll see in Part 2 haha

Nice diagnosis. Yes the good old swaptronics. I looked at a 2001 F150 the other day with no communications. Had a blown data link fuse that is shared with one of the power outlets.

@Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty_1

2 жыл бұрын

A mission critical circuit sharing the same fuse as Baba's spotty when he goes pig shooting?

Best solution to any problem like this when you don't get full story, Is the diag charge goes up and then they learn a lesson. Add a attempted repair diag charge on top..

BAR and Atmosphere are close but not the same. 1 atm is 14.7 lb/sq in, 1 bar is 14.5 lb/sq in

"This one's kind of important." haha :) You were totally enjoying yourself, Ivan? ;))

@joyride2013

3 жыл бұрын

haha i could sense his irritation at that point. customer is not the sharpest tool in the shed

Looks like someone's playing checkers with the fuses

@Cheepchipsable

3 жыл бұрын

Trying to make a smiley face with the colours.

Ivan, you were very diplomatic. There were 2 booby-traps, and I'll bet the owner is in too much of a fog to recall the original issue. I'm not going get into the causes of fog.

I knew Iven was in for a treat or nightmare once I saw the heart 💖 sticker's

Eurotrash was also the name of a British TV show decades ago, one of the funniest things I've ever seen 😂

@zennor_man

3 жыл бұрын

Ha..Antoine de Caunes if memory serves...thanks for the reminder

@zx8401ztv

3 жыл бұрын

Such an odd series :-D

@-DC-

3 жыл бұрын

@@zennor_man That's the Man 🤪

@prmayner

3 жыл бұрын

Was it about cars?

@zx8401ztv

3 жыл бұрын

@@prmayner no, see hear kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWxh2tJ-g9GycdI.html

You’re the man Ivan someone is messing with you 👍

Someone was doing the Fusebox Hokey-pokey!!!

Interesting analytics again. Top job since you are no VAG specialist.... albeit I do not like the word EUROTRASH.... The typical story with these cars is, DO NOT mess with them if you have no clue... VW techs have some serious training plus need experience to fix these cars. Regular workshops can never fix them properly with regular tools... or should invest your kind of Sherlock Holmes diagnostics and spend the time to figure it out like you do... respect! Most dealers do not invest nor the time nor the training to properly educate their dinosaur technicians. A VW is for sure more complex than any US GM product but there is logic in the madness 🙂 PS... ALLDATA is nice but revisions are not always up to date or complete. I refer to the VAG databases, but I understand you cannot have all the subscriptions.

A blown ignition fuse on VW’s can be a sign of an ignition coil burning out and causing a short to ground intermittently. Might be worth scoping the coils for signs of trouble 👍

@nct9466

2 жыл бұрын

Does it explain a missing fuse too?

It is a shit of a thing when going to diagnostic a car which has been previously messed by others, so you don't know what they did or broke. Also a problem added when the owner doesn't say all the story or know what the previous "technicians" did. Takes more time than normal to find all this messed things for sure. But at the end, if you find them always is a good point on the owner that sees you are a competent tachnician. Well done Ivan, great job. This VW CC is a great car, but a pity that it has been thrashed by all the previous hands that have touched it.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely makes for a fun video series though 😁

someone fat fingered that 5amp into the wrong area. then they started chasing the fuel pump. fuel lines still had the fuel in them from when they originally misplaced the 5amp for you to fix that then run the car till the fuel lines emptied/lost pressure. so now part 2 coming to see why they pulled that 5amp fuse! probably till point to why the other fuse is 25amp when it shouldnt be. people love solving blowing fuses with higher amperage. I mean what could go wrong putting a 25amp in???? hopefully they have a fire extinguisher in the car and the source is hittable lol otherwise that will be a lovely scent of burnt toast in its future.

@psdaengr911

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I never trust my memory when changing fuses ;or things with similar looking parts. Any interruption and short term memory becomes unreliability. If I don't have a manual to check placement, I take pictures as I disassemble things.

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

Owner and his friends were playing like just come clean Ivan asked him he said not that I know of classic not putting the blame on yourself answer

I really hate comin behind a wire/connector/module/actuator puller! First you fix their..........screwup, THEN find the root cause of the problem! That really sucks! Ivan's great at taking care of business!

lol the Ivan asking if anybody been in the fuel pump. Lol the reply, this was kind of important. Lol loved it

I'm voting for a couple of guys having a few beers and saying "Hey, let's mess with Ivan and see if he can figure this one out. Har, har, har!" Well, you sure showed 'em. Hope they think the cost for two hours of diagnostic was worth it.

You’re scientific method is super. U have your note pad and a flawless approach. I look at some of the cars u fix and am blown away. And yet u follow pretty much the same approach. The Maestro!! Any flyin lately? Bought a Van Van. Smooth as silk. An old geezer bike. Lookin forward to pt 2

*"Fuses don't jump on their own!* I don't think you're getting the full story!

@psdaengr911

3 жыл бұрын

or change values. . .

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

The owner and his friends were playing big time. Why would they unplug the fuel pump that’s just stupid

@Spelter

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryans413 maybe a test and they forgot to put it back properly

This seemed to be a sabotage just to test Ivan’s troubleshooting skills. Was this staged?

@jeffyoung478

3 жыл бұрын

Or to just make a video.

@sandybarnes887

3 жыл бұрын

Devon says no

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

Haha we'll see the real underlying issue in Part 2 😁

@GlycerinZ

3 жыл бұрын

Ivan is so good that he always gets the zingers

@charleskosyjana1295

3 жыл бұрын

KEITH must have been involved in this one !!! He liked to put Ivan to the grindstone and make him think outside the box !!!

Like Eric O would say COME ON BABY. Great work Ivan.

Daddy buys car for kid. Kid has friend try installing amp and tuner, friend screws it up bad. Kid tries to hide all evidence of screw-up but fails miserably.

@willemstreutgers1154

3 жыл бұрын

David Delle and kid has to pay for 2 hours diagnose. to solve crappy work.

Definitely charge the customer the customer was playing swaptronics and unplugged the fuel pump. The person that was there was not the owner, did not know what the owner did. You have to know the whole story if the customer wants it fixed.

@volvo09

3 жыл бұрын

Yep!! Maybe trying to install something and they created a problem, hence it was stuck in the garage with a missing fuse, haha)

@HouseCallAutoRepair

3 жыл бұрын

Pull a fuse to visually inspect, checks ok, plug it back in... Oops she's not happy! Wrong hole!

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

That would definitely save some diag time for the customer lol

Besure to check for casper the friendly ghost in the vehicle, maybe he is the culprit to all this, I love customers with the innocent look lol

Yes having the fuel pump plugged in would make a difference. Check and see if his refrigerator is plugged in? Maybe his girl-friend's X did it?

Wow the magic fuses moving all buy themselves. Nice job my friend.

Why do I have this funny feeling there's going to be "other" issues... LOL...Don't underestimate the classic visual inspection...

alwatys good to see you man!!!!!

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

You too thanks for the comment 👍

Good diagnosis so many fuse-able areas you were able to nail it down, good stuff.

some got over their head and you came in in saved his ass

yea someone definitely was messing around and obviously did it on purpose

IMPRESSIVE young Obiwan!

I have no patience for grown men who have wives, families, jobs, houses, life responsibilities that dictate that the game playing a 12 year old child's, Speak no, See No, Hear No, Do No denials are any part of a healthy mental disposition. I don't mean that I myself personally turn into an impatient person emotionally, just that my scope of this "Man-Child" and the way that I address them Adult to Adult changes considerably. I now focus into the phycological Adult-Child relationship such as I'm an adult here raising someone else's kid. I've passed over more than 65 years of life.... I also own a public relation business and I have met so many, many "Man-Childs" in my life over the last 20 years that I honestly do not believe it myself and one thing I have noticed is over 95% of the time... these "Man-Childs" are all of a specific age, gender, race, country and social class. I'm not being prejudice or racist or anything... matter of fact, they are the same race I am.... The denial of mature responsibility by these man-childs is absolutely beyond imagination.

Great video! Clicking on Part Two right now........

A failed airbag module caused a start-stall/no comm with powertrain bus. Airbag module got can bus line shorted to ground, unplugging it the car started. Car was a vw t5 2013, had airbag light on for some time with no comm to it, eventually shut the car down requiring attention.

this video is full of laughs , they must love paying for diag time for problems they created . thats amazing

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

You could tell Ivan was little mad at the end he knew the owner was messing with the fuses I’m glad he charged him the full 2 hours

'Well.... this one is kind of important' facepalm with the disconnected fuel pump.

Wow! So many modules! No wonder auto makers were hit hard with the electronics shortage during the pandemic

Hi - if it's high it means highline be top or best spec and low is base models . If you check the chassis sticker ( under drives seat ) or in the rear boot / trunk under the carpet. It's printed on there :) hope that helps 💪🏻😎😎 love the videos :)

bro you SAVED ME THOUSANDS OF DOLARS THANK YOU

I'm an IT guy and love computers more than most people.. but not so much in cars.

thanks for fixing my car dude 🤩 but this was the whole story, i did indeed drive this car for 3 days and i walked out to start it and it wouldn’t start, but these people can continue saying whatever hahaha. i appreciate you dude 🤩

@lydiamcelroy2284

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I'm having same problem with my 2012 vw passat 2.5

I think the owner new a bit more than he said!!!!!!

very cool work.. Its always fun to watch these diagnosis.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

It's even more fun doing the diagnosis!

Great process! Fuel pump duty looks a little high for idle condition, I’m sure the original problem will return shortly.

Nicely done! Tnx for posting.

The ignorance of some people amaze me. Great diagnostic work!

No way he was driving it around a few days and then gets a sudden crank no start with fuse missing and fuel pump unplugged.

@Nabeelco

3 жыл бұрын

The fuse could have popped loose due to vibration if not installed fully. I've seen that happen before.

@ryans413

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nabeelco But the fuel pump was unplugged unless that was after his driving problems

@Nabeelco

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryans413 Exactly, someone unplugged the fuel pump trying to diagnose it, and forgot to plug it back in. Ivan said as much in the video.

No humming noise would have been a good indication. The owner was probably hacking around, no real tech would ever leave the fuel pump harness disconnected.

You did well helping the helpless, cheers

You are so funny, "well this IS kinda important ", lol!!!

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

xD

Nice diag Ivan!

It's a shame VWAG make such unreliable cars because they are usually very nice driving cars

Ivan, you have a very cool head. Troubleshooting problems caused by people who are clueless in fixing cars is enough to go crazy. He should of told you everything he had touched Before you even started! Perhaps from now on you need to query the customer before starting your diagnosis.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

Oh believe me I queried the customer... He said that 2 other friends looked at it before me... 😅

See? the car is not euro trash. The problem was people touching things they shouldn’t be touching. Been a VW technician for 20 years…. Seen this multiple times where fuses are removed and not put back in their right spot. Also seen many techs chasing issues without inspecting fuses and fuses lay out before 😂. Wise old mechanic once told me…. ALWAYS check the fuses first. I guess Ivan got the same training!!!

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

3 жыл бұрын

But I checked the wiring diagram first... 😉 You will enjoy Part 2 where we discover the underlying Eurotrash issue haha

@volpswagen_marco

3 жыл бұрын

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics funny how these days, lost communication faults are mostly software issues and repaired with an update 😂 So before checking fuses, I check TSBs

They got the name right for this vehicle!

Was anything being powered by where the 5A was? What does the wrong 20A fuse control?

His next stop should be 5 Star Car Stereo in Florida for a Car Stereo 911 video and get that rats nest cleaned up.

Bought a used VW Tiguan once, beautiful vehicle, drove great. But, the engineering was so bad, it had so many problems, I sold it within 6 weeks.

somebody was playing around

It happened with me, Someone touching not putting back in place. Great video

These kind of cars have to be a mechanics worst nightmare. Fuses out, wrong fuses, plugs unplugged, and who knows what else is coming. The worst part is no one knows how it got like that.

Enjoyed the video....great diagnostic process!!!!

I never knew a fuse could cause so much hassle

@Spelter

3 жыл бұрын

When the fuel pump gets no power or the ecu, how can a car run ?

@neilmurphy845

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spelter Yah why do people mess around with Fuse's anyway

Gremlins!

how to drive a car round for a few days with the pump disconnected? i know just put the pipe in a whisky bottle

Isn't Eurotrash redundant? It's like saying Carnivorous Lion.

@Spelter

3 жыл бұрын

We say the same things about American cars here. If you only know the US crap and have different car problems now, of course you hate it and fail. We have problems with US-Trash and are pissed of by bad cables, ridiculously placed modules and bad engine design that burns out sparkplugs and catalytic converters. So every car has it's problems and you need to know a bit about Vag cars when you want to repair it, same with Ford

Subwoofer and amp Install gone wrong by his son

Nut loose on drivers seat, is my diagnosis.

Let's put a 20A fuse where the 10A is, that will fix it for good.

They have perfected the art of planned obsolescence

@kain0m

3 жыл бұрын

By removing fuses and unplugging fuel pumps?

@enricopolazzo33

3 жыл бұрын

@@kain0m it becomes cost prohibitive to own a vw after they reach a certain age. I’m a former vw owner and tech