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"EURO" Shop Couldn't Fix it...in a YEAR?? (Saab Injector MISFIRE)
Another Saab V6 TURBO!
This one starts up and runs...but only on 5 CYLINDERS...
Code P0203 - Injector 3 Circuit Fault.
How hard can this be to diagnose?
Well a "Specialty Euro" shop couldn't figure it out in a YEAR!!!
Customer got fed up and towed it to PHAD from over 3 hours away.
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Ivan, you and Eric O South Man Auto are both on another level when fixing cars. Huge respect to you both.
@Mickey_Bauer
6 ай бұрын
Yep 👍...and Scanner Danner. The three of my favorites.
Good day Ivan. I want to thank you for keeping those Saabs running. I am a former Saab District Manager in Western Canada, and I absolutely loved our products. They were pretty darn good vehicles even when GM took over and I had great dealers and employees who were « true believers » that kept the faith. Thank you once again, and hello to all our European friends who continue to drive these wonderful cars.
@MFKR696
Жыл бұрын
"True Believer" isn't a compliment, just so's ya know.... That's what they call Military personnel who drank the Kool-Aid, which is funny considering that Saab-proper's bread and butter is military equipment.
@johnrooney1749
Жыл бұрын
We have in Lancashire the Lancashire Saab owners club run by S. Alty .John Rooney st Anne's Lancashire UK
I had one similar to this last year. Customer had his truck at another shop for a year and then brought it to me, 3 hours later it was fixed. His words: "are you shitting me?!? I don't know whether to kiss you or go slap the shit out of that other guy!" It was all wiring problems. Nice diag Ivan.
@erik_dk842
Жыл бұрын
The first shop probably didn't work 3 hours in total on the truck.
@user-ee1ki5lz5e
Жыл бұрын
was it a Japanese tractor truck?
@Chu3505
Жыл бұрын
These days,if you want your car diagnosis and fixes correctly.You should always tries to findings an Independent diagnostic mechanic likes Ivan first.You should not going to those manufacturers corporations businesses garages.They’ll diagnose it wrong or they’ll charges you an arm and a leg in $..to fixes.
@user-ee1ki5lz5e
Жыл бұрын
@@Chu3505 what the f is a manufacturers corporations business garage?
@Chu3505
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ee1ki5lz5e Cars brands manufacturers dealerships mechanics.Every cars brands corporations have it own dealerships garages to fixes warranties and regulations cars models brands recall..
“That feeling of defeat when you repair and a different trouble code pops up…..then you find it’s a simple fix! WIN!”
It's amazing that cars from hours away are brought to you has become the norm rather than the exception. It shows the level of respect people have for your skills and reputation.
@watershed44
Жыл бұрын
@alex1949 It also shows us how terrible most auto repair shops are in the USA today. I would say MAYBE 10-20% of them are reasonably competent to do average diagnostic repair work. That's third world level.
@alex1949
Жыл бұрын
@@watershed44 I would agree with you mostly, but from my experiences, the 20% figure is too high. A month ago, a "tech" condemned the transmission of my sister in law's Acura. I found an intermittent crank sensor. Replaced it and did a crank-cam relearn, now it's fixed. Just did maintenance on my "free" Kia Amanti. It was at 3 shops over 1.5 years, including the dealer. Was told computer, harness, bad engine, etc. So it was given to me to do whatever. Found fault at throttle body harness, and throttle body itself. Just put in another 40K miles on it. Just 2 of many personal experiences. And I'm DIY. 😁
@watershed44
Жыл бұрын
@@alex1949 Bingo..I can't even find an independent shop that can properly life my 1996 VW Golf, the last place crushed the rocker panels by actually placing the lift claw on the rocker panel itself! Not the pinch weld section with an arrow on it! It is really that bad!
@alex1949
Жыл бұрын
@@watershed44 ouch! Back in the mid 90s, a shop did the exact same thing to my dad's 84 BMW 318i. It was barely 10 years old at the time. This was around the time I started to figure out how to do my own work, because of crap like this. This was my era of Chilton's and Haynes manuals at the local library. I wanted to learn how to do it right.
I can't tell you how many times I've gotten cars from dealerships who can't figure out the car or misdiagnoses the car. Just last week I had a VW Tiguan Diesel. Dealer said it needed an engine due to oil leak that took the engine out. We got it in. Found an oil thermostat broken and leaking. Along with 4 broken off water pump bolts. So we replaced the oil thermostat. Extracted and installed new water pump bolts. Filled it with oil. And no engine required. The quote from the dealer was 20k. No joke. All in we charged him 1k. Saved that customer 19k. Could you imagine?
@angelcelis9090
Жыл бұрын
I got charged 4 thousand for a motor that doesn’t work from a family member and that family member is acting like I’m ripping him off wow some people need to stay away from mechanics until they are good enough to charge people lol.
@billmalec
Жыл бұрын
2006 VW Jetta TDI. Shifting badly. I suspected DSG shifting mechanism problem. Dealer said it needed a transmission. Took it to a known TDI guy. He 'reset' the shifter mechanism(mechatronics) and added a bit of oil. Been working perfectly for 2 years now. $85 fix...
@mikefoehr235
Жыл бұрын
Crazy
@edwinlomonaco6754
Жыл бұрын
@Bill Malec Yes sir. Been there done that.
@frankvoynar6427
Жыл бұрын
Yeah,.. These are simply dealership horror stories or for that matter anybody that doesn't know what the hell they are doing. as a old school dealer tech felt pity for the customer especially when they went out of warranty. Hay.. they had kids to feed...
"That's your problem lady." You've spent way too much time with Eric O. 😄 Amazing how you, Eric, and Ray have no, or little, trouble diagnosing problems dealerships can't seem to find. And it starts with a scan tool and a wiring diagram.
@brentg8600
Жыл бұрын
Ray is not on the same level
@johnt.848
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that phrase originated on Mythbusters first.
@jluna1279
Жыл бұрын
@Mark 'Chalky' Smith @rainmanraysrepairs
@dans_Learning_Curve
Жыл бұрын
@@brentg8600 you are correct. However, he produces quality/honest repairs. I know he watches Eric O. I'm sure owning his own shop, he'll just improve!
@Mr2004MCSS
Жыл бұрын
Ray usually does good work but I find him kind of irritating. He tries to be funny but he's not.
Both injectors share a common B+ feed. That's why they both showed power when you jumped a single pin. Great vid as usual 👌
@bernardaflores1720
Жыл бұрын
Bingo winner here!
@alext8828
Жыл бұрын
B+ feed is common on Saabs. It can be a trap for the uninitiated.
Thank You sooo much Ivan for your expertise!!! Now I can finally enjoy my SAAB!!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I hope it keeps running smoothly for a long time 👍😎
@CycloneCyd
Жыл бұрын
Well, now you know where to take it next time you have an issue. Take a look at my channel - loads of 9-3 stuff that might help you out one day. You too @Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics (I hope you don't mind me blowing my own trumpet on your patch)
Steep learning curve on the previous Saab paid off. You sir are amazing with all your techno wizardry.
Ivan, your Saab diagnosis of computer and ebay motors replacement part repair approved of by Ray Migliozzi. :) Sitting at a Euro chop for a year...stunning. Can't imagine what a 3 hour tow would cost. But, at least in the end a positive result for the owner. Nice job, again.
A real Saab story.
Hey Ivan! Wasn't it great to be able to say: "There's your Problem Lady!!" Every time I get to say that it makes my week!!
@rtumark
Жыл бұрын
You have to say it in Eric’s voice too. At least that’s what I do with my family. They think i’m nuts.
@marcdrouillard4055
Жыл бұрын
@@rtumark I do that with the voice and my family thinks I am nuts too!! I guess that makes two of us among many others I am sure!!
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660
Жыл бұрын
@@rtumark 😊
@watershed44
Жыл бұрын
@marcdrouillard4055 That's a legendary phrase...that PAYS!
Unfortunately we live in a world where up is down, down is up, and car mechanics…aren’t…it’s always great to see a master craftsman at work. Good job.
You've made yourself the SAAB king!
Amazing how well you know scoping, back door checking, and programming.
In my experience most shops cannot do in depth diagnosis, they just do basic code reads and visual inspections and then fire off the parts cannon. I've been trying to diagnose my sisters bmw x3 intermittent crank no start condition after two different bmw specialty shops couldn't figure it out. One of them wanted $1500 to take the valve cover off even though it's an electrical problem lol.
Check out Various ECU repair sites in the UK. They repair yours so you just plug it back in. They have GM ones on the shelf if need be. Friend over there says check plugs coil, injector, continuity then send the ECU away for repair GBP @ 180
@josegalindo5982
Жыл бұрын
Which UK sites?
@mazdaman1286
Жыл бұрын
ECU testing, BBa reman. ECU doctor, Autotronics
My dad and I ran our business very similar to how you do it, Ivan. When we had customers come in with issues we didn't think we could handle, we knew where to send them. I know the area you live in is somewhat sparsely populated (it is just BEAUTIFUL and you live a distance from State College, likely where most dealerships/shops are located). If I were this shop owner and we had attempted unsuccessful repairs, I would have handed this man your business card or directed him to your website AFTER I returned him the money he paid for unsuccessful repairs. Under NO circumstances would I have even THOUGHT of keeping his car a year. Even if I didn't get any repeat business, I wouldn't have a disgruntled customer. I am surprised you buy stuff from Flea Bay, my guy. I figured Flagship 1 would be a better choice. Oh! Wait! You've given them several chances! Great video!
Your bonus footage last few months has been great content. Love your stuff Ivan.
sadly, Industry professionals are dying breed. Excellent diagnosis as usual Ivan. I see technical workmanship issues daily.
We all know your troubleshooting skills are top notch, but lets take it to the next level. How about repairing these bad ECUs? This ECU is an easy one, hard fault on the #3 injector driver circuit. Digi-Key and Mouser can be your new best friends!
Ivan, I don't know what you know about furnaces, but I just got two condos to work on where the electric heat in the furnace doesn't function. When switching to heat on the thermostat, it would pop the 5 amp fuse from the 24v transformer. I didn't have time to work on it thoroughly yet, and i was not the one who called for help, but even after I explained that there is a dead short somewhere, the repair guy went through numerous fuses and smoked two transformers. After they left with a misdiagnosis, I finally got the chance to look at them myself yesterday. It took me awhile of tracing wires, but the problems and solutions were quite simple. The "board" that one of the furnaces has was supposedly bad and causing the short circuit. Nope. It was just not quite wired right. I heard "your thermostat is bad." "The fuse blowing is because of your heating coils"... Nevermind that the low voltage fuse is what was popping. "The board is bad." It's frustrating what "repair shops" are not capable of. I am just a redneck hillbilly guy with no certifications or license and i figured out the problem and created a solution.
@volvo09
Жыл бұрын
And that's the kind of silly issue that will leave someone with a "you need a new furnace, this is beyond repair"
@shozdott
6 ай бұрын
yah prob just bad wire from stat or wire to contactor .... both 24v
Last week I had a duramax come in from another shop same thing they had it for almost a year and couldn’t figure it out . I did the Ivan no parts required and diagnosed it within 20 minutes and I pressed the reductant loading reset and presto it’s fixed. They didn’t follow instructions on how to replace a nox sensor 😂
I have a feeling you will be seeing more of these cars in the coming years.. good for business.
@miscbits6399
Жыл бұрын
Those and older Volvos....
@mikeafa1
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure of it. Stock up on those ECM's!
After owning many Saabs, I really miss the quirkiness of them. Always fun to drive with smooth turbos!
When I heard the air whooshing when Ivan revved the engine I was already thinking "turbo boost leak", the pipe probably just popped off because the turbo could make decent boost pressure.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
Жыл бұрын
That was the secondary air pump lol
The end result is a happy customer and also, I think a happy Ivan. Very cool that your investment in learning how to configure that software (like knowing how to manage the settings files and Java version) paid off.
Great video! Most shops can't fix things like that because they have not taken the time to learn. You are many levels above most shops.
Laughed when it went into limp home mode on the test drive, as I knew exactly what had happened...I had exactly the same problem after replacing the turbo on an Insignia V6 (essentially the same GM HFV6 engine), and didn't check the inlet ducting clamps! Good job Ivan, thanks for the videos.
Oh man, when you got to "emulators" you lost me. (ha ha) That repair was quite involved because of the need to reprogram the computer. Good for you that you can do all this!
Nice to see that you still support these great cars. I own a 9-3 Aero from 2009 with the real Saab 2.0T engine and I love it, we have a lot of Saab lovers with real tech2's over here in the Netherlands so fixing them is not really a problem.
@user-ee1ki5lz5e
Жыл бұрын
the 2.0T sucks; way too slow and small for such large and heavy car
@richchristie3091
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ee1ki5lz5e Az
@johnschreiber1574
Жыл бұрын
Don't kid yourself. That's a real GM 2.0T. "The new 9-3 departed from the Saab H / EcoPower engine used previously for a new 2.0 L inline-four engine Ecotec engine from General Motors' for the petrol-powered models." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Ecotec_engine But is is still better than the V6 pig.
@markwitte6458
Жыл бұрын
zo te zien zijn ze het niet met je eens.ze zien liever een 5.7 L v8 met 170pony's 😂
@Delta_project05
Жыл бұрын
@1 11 except it really isn't, the linear b207 Is admittedly slower but the arc and aero have plenty of get up and go, and they aren't a nightmare to work on like the 2.8
Mr Ivan it's so sad 😭😭😭 that people take there car's to dealership to have them say I don't know what is wrong with it. To have the customer to finally realized 😭😭😭 that it would have been cheaper to bring the Euro Car's to you from the start. Mr Ivan you are a very detailed specialist mechanic and people know this because you stand by your work!!!!!!
come oooon ivan we were waiting for a "surgery" on the ECM hahah... i wanted to meet the driver in ECM hahah ... next time you will open it up? what do you think ? witth great respect ivano kudos from ethiopia👍
@gfbemc0256
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I want to see the inside of the ECM & understand why the driver is not being replaced.
To the rescue again! Thank you for your honest and excellent service!
You should open up a Euro specialist shop now..! You are now the Euro Guru!! :-)
The scope showed a signal on both injector control wires when you were front probing the ecu connector due to the injectors sharing a common power feed wire. Test light provided power up one control wire, through that injector, through the common supply wire, back down through the other injector and out it's control wire, then back to your scope👍🇦🇺
the programming parts of these vids are so interesting. such clunky process for eeprom programming in the field it's nuts.
That's what you call working above the shoulders, Ivan rocks..
@CycloneCyd
Жыл бұрын
Prince Regent, maybe. I@M the Saab King, lol 😂😂😂😂
Great diag Ivan. I hope the customer goes back to shop and demands they look at your vid and tells the what a bunch of wankers they are and that he expects some recompense for his hardship of no car for a year. Regards from South Africa
Nice video and diagnosis. I guess you are going to be the go to guy for Saabs in the Northeast. All the research you did on the last one paid off on this job for sure.
As for the "Specialist Shop" they should be called out over all Social media platforms so other people don't get caught out like this customer did they don't deserve to be called "Specialists " & need to be put out of business .Hopefully your name is being put out there as a proper Specialist I know you wouldn't leave a customer hanging out there like that (1yr) thats crap Cheers Ivan another great video.
@sts973007
Жыл бұрын
Yes I did. The Shop is called Swedish Motors, in Marietta, PA.
@larrybe2900
Жыл бұрын
Saab might be considered an exceptional defunct variant but your solution is a bit harsh. The shop would have been wise to be the ones being Ivan's customer here a year ago.
@richardcranium5839
Жыл бұрын
there is always 2 sides to the story and until i hear the shops i'll cringingly give them the benefit of the doubt.
@Bellboy40
Жыл бұрын
@@richardcranium5839 I think any shop that keeps a car for a year, and it still isn't fixed, doesn't need anymore "benefit of the doubt". All doubt is gone as to their ability or willingness to fix a car.
Before I retired, I remember that every time I was given a job where someone said 'i tried this', or 'so and so fixed that', my first thought was 'oh shit, here we go'. And yes, we all have our horror stories, the best one I had was a master cylinder failure on an old school single circuit system Blowing off the intake plumbing under 7psi of boost?, you got lucky. Sometimes the test drive can be fun, or downright nerve wracking, After all your hard work, it's not like you can return a customers car with cobwebs in it. As always, great video. The bonus footage is even greater.
I have always done my GM programming through SPS and just load the latest/correct software which puts in the right vin. I wont do the relearns though, I normally do those with my scan tool after the fact. I haven't done a Saab before. I had now idea you could use Tech2Win for this. I will have to give it a shot next time.
For why both your traces went up at once when you tested the ECU connector pins, because the fuel injectors are fed a common power, you gave the circuit power through your test light, so all the fuel injector wires would have been energized, through that injector wire. I think I got the quiz right, 😆
A 3 hour tow...they really love their SAAB. Almost a year is ridiculous but the customer is in control and can or should be able to leave anytime.
The GM era Saabs are notorious for ECM failures due to heat. There are videos about putting heat shields on the ECMs for the four cylinder cars but I haven't seen any for the six cylinder cars. I have a 2006 9-3 with the 2.0 and I'm going to see if I can relocate the ECM to a better location, but that remains to be seen. Great video.
@georgecaspira3637
Жыл бұрын
Mercedes had an issue too, their ECM was on top of the engine and the heat cycles cracked the solder inside the unit, so it was an intermittent fault, nightmare at first to work out what was going on. DiagnoseDan has a video, really interesting.
@dcomputers
Жыл бұрын
@george caspira I don't understand why mercedes started putting it on top of the engine intake. Thats a bad spot to put a computer. And their trans computer inside the hot transmission fluid is even more strange.
@Alpha06R
Жыл бұрын
The ECMs on those Saabs and Mercedes, as well as Volvo and other OEMs were made by Bosch. They are weak overall, no matter the mounting position of the ECM. I have a customer that have a 2005 Volvo S40 with the B5254T3 (5 Cyl, Turbo) and the ECM (Bosch Motronic 9) was replaced 5 times because they die relatively soon, and those are mounted on the Air Filter Housing, so they are cooled from the intake air. I don't see many Delphi, Denso or Siemens ECM/PCMs failing at the same rate the Bosch's do.
@dcomputers
Жыл бұрын
@@Alpha06R what failure did the ecu have?
@volvo09
Жыл бұрын
That looks like a horrendous spot for an ECU Heat, constant high frequency vibration, only worse place would be bolting it to the exhaust manifold...
im loving the Tech2 and TIS on a laptop, i need to get that setup for my 9-3
You sir are the Head Wizard. The mere mudblood's, proclaimed european specialist's of Saabwarts should be quite embarrassed. Well done as always man.
this stuff is way over my head yet i find it so fascinating to watch him fix the electronics on vehicles i am no good with that type of stuff it amazes me that in 30 min he figured out what another shop that supposedly specializes in that type of vehicle could not figure out in a year!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad you enjoy solving the mysteries 🙂
When You said it better. I Couldn’t help but bust OUT. Laughing. Cause it sounded just like me. After all that work I hear you
It's so sad that dealerships can't figure these problems and holds customers car for a year, come on!!! Awesome work Ivan!!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
Жыл бұрын
Not only dealerships lol
On old equipment that has had lots of hands in it I always add 1 to 1.5 hours to check everything that I can get to look for other problems. I would have done spark plugs and oil change on this car for sure. Extended test drives also. After 40 years I have learn a few things !
Anytime I hear about a car being in a shop for an extended period (a year!), I get suspicious. I can't imagine any kind of legitimate shop making space for a car they can't fix. And, I can't imagine any customer being willing or able to leave a car that long. Got to be another side to that story. That takes nothing away from your ability to fix it.
@prostonaukulele4570
Жыл бұрын
We had a car for 6 months straight, customer had few other cars and this one was fixed in few other shops. We were working on its in some free time, until we've found problem. It was Saab 9-3 cabrio with dying engine every few hours. First time i've seen something like this and hopefully last time, damn nightmare on diagnosis
@vincentrisalvato9921
Жыл бұрын
THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A PEICE OF EURO SHIT, ONLY BUY A REAL AMERICAN MADE VEHICLES....
Nice work my friend. You called me the regional Astra specialist. You are now rhe regional Saab specialist. Fixing the the Astra radio wiring today and owner should be able to pick it up.
Great display of how a pico can save all kinds of time (and gaskets/seals!) in the diagnosis process even on relatively simple faults. Those E55 controllers are terrible. They have traces and connecting "Wires" from the board to the connector that are the thickness of a human hair. They use these in the Catera, 02-03 Vue V6 and the first generation CTS, all having an engine of similar origin to that Saab, all with similar issues.
Great job Ivan. You should offer a all day class on those software packages. From install to use. Either onsite or via Zoom. There is so much info in your videos it is hard to absorb it all. I am long since retired now so maybe younger folks would catch on way faster. You have so much valuable information to share. That foreign car mechanic should definitely attend!
I have a turbo 4 wagon. Don’t want to get rid of it. Lots of GM parts. The design is very nice, beautiful ride.
@NoWr2Run
Жыл бұрын
Wagon, NICE.
Awesome. I bet the customer was more than thrilled!!
Trionictuning is invaluable for ME9 cars, and the rest of the saab crowd too. Saved and replaced several ecus over the years with their help.
Ivan is the Dr House of auto diagnostics.
oh yeah, you did the diagnostics properly. Most people just start changing parts starting with the common fuel pump, plugs, wires, injectors sensors. No crank no start, better change the fuel pump. I just fixed a e450 that died on the highway 8 hours from here. They made 3 trips out trying to fix it, changed the fuel pump on the side of the road but all it was was a blown 10 fuse for the pcm.... Took me 10 minutes!
just love the bonus footage and end comments you are the man ivan
That's ridiculous how the hell did the professional shop not know that. Scopes are a lifesaver for things like that so handy
The usual reason for Saab problems is "it's a Saab" - but this is a GM car with GM electronics, wearing a Saab badge
@jfv65
Жыл бұрын
Isn't this that funky V6 with turbo that is only driven by the exhaust from 1 cylinder bank? I would take a genuine Saab 2.3L 16V 4inline over this V6.
@miscbits6399
Жыл бұрын
@@jfv65 yes - and Saab mechanics HATE these cars with a passion
@Andy-ms9vi
Жыл бұрын
Making the reason for this Saab's problems "it's a GM" .
@emmettturner9452
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why he is using GM tools on a SAAB.
@jimhaines8370
Жыл бұрын
Just matter of time before they are all gone between age rust rot and wear and parts no longer available anywhere. If not for GM blowing huge sums of cash to keep them going they would went under 20 years earlier
As a Saab fan, thank you good sir for keeping one on the road.
These people are so lucky to have a technician / mechanic of your caliber to take on these jobs. Many years back when I owned my muffler shop in a small rural area. There were two brothers our shops were in 3 very small towns about 10 miles apart. One brother that worked at the Ford dealership and the other at the Chevrolet dealership. Every time I watch your videos it reminds me of them, in the 40 years I knew them they were the go-to guys. If they could not fix it no one could. For 26 years in my shop I specialized in exhaust along with that came specialized welding aluminum, cast iron, stainless steel. I was like you if I didn't or couldn't fix it I would not charge a penny. Many of the jobs I would get were because; no one else could or would fix it. I remember when a mechanic came to my shop with a master brake cylinder from an old International truck. He had completely rebuilt it to look like new inside and out. It had a double reservoir, but it would only pump from one reservoir. I don't even know why I just stretched the spring out a few inch's placed it back inside and it pumped perfectly. He said, how did you know to do that? You fixed it in 5 minutes he had been trying to get that thing to work for many hrs. I proceeded to tell him, it was the only thing I could think of. I was as surprised as he was. After that I stretched every single spring in every single master cylinder I rebuilt. I do wonder how many old master cylinders would have kept working after a rebuild by simply stretching that spring? I seen a guy on KZread just this past week he rebuilt a master cylinder and could not get it to pump. I kept yelling at the screen stretch out the spring. Next thing I see is him getting a new master cylinder of course the other one was returned as a core. By the time he read my comment it was to late...
Great work, not used my old tech 2 for years, like the idea of the emulator on the laptop. good diagnostic method and correct tools for the job.
I clicked on this and subscribed because I remembered you from the time you dropped by Eric's at SMA. If I recall it was another injector problem on a Buick that had the two of you scratching your heads for a while. It was great seeing two master mechanics teaming up.
Those non-OEM hose clamps are woefully insufficient for the air tube from the turbo to the MAF. The OEM clamps are steel and eventually rust out and need to be replaced. I have purchased "heavy duty" clamps (9/16" wide) off the Amazing web retailer that work well. The regular ones available at HD and auto parts stores are only 1/2" wide and will not develop sufficient tension. I have had that tube blow off more than once before I wised up.
One of the things that separates good techs from parts replacers is that the latter are afraid of wiring---they won't pull a diagram, they won't trace it, they won't do testing. Great job on the diag. On another note; notice how Saab quality and reliability slipped quite a bit once GM took over
That blue high-performance air pipe should be good for at least +5 horsepower.
No wonder they went out of business.. that ignition caught me off guard lol.
It is allways nice to see how you are diagnosting every vehicle, You dont only read codes and fire partscannon like so many others are doing, You find real reason for those codes, and act whatever is needeed to vehicle to fix it "permanently" if possible. Some times no parts needed, and then customer is happy to pay your bill, after those stealership shops, they had to go first with bad results.
Great video! I'm a retired tech and still enjoy looking and learning! Saab is a great car although the GM built models have some problems. Thanks for posting this Video, Very informative!
Oh no, youre the saab guy for your area now
Could watch you all day. Having a crank no start problem with an 05 93 convertible to scanning KZread for some pointers. Much love from Northern Ireland. Great video
Good times. I am dealing with this right now too. I am very much hoping the ECM that's on the way will fix the issue!
@CycloneCyd
Жыл бұрын
if it's a 2.0T and you have four injector codes, then yes, the ECM is toast. Don't throw it out though, there is someone repairing them, I just need to track him down (he seems to be hiding his light under a bushell)
Thank you Ivan for saving another Saab and my Saab, superb job!
Very nice easy work! I've never had faith in these "specialty" shops and this is why. Another happy customer and me as a viewer! Thanks Ivan.
Find it odd someone would leave their car at a shop for a year, a week maybe, a year, strange.. Good work Ivan
@erik_dk842
Жыл бұрын
The cars probably weren't at the garage all the time, but many repeat visits. AND: Let's take whatever Ivan's customers tell him with more than one pinch of salt. They most likely conveniently leave out their own share of the cause of problems.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
Жыл бұрын
@@erik_dk842 copy and paste your comments much? 😂
@erik_dk842
Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics There's no way to link all the questions together, and people rarely read anything beyond their own comments. You know that I'm not one of the scammers.
The V6 Aero is the perfect package imho. Owned an 08 with a st1 tune, and have yet to find another car that feels as good with power, comfort, stability gas economy and handling. Saab made a plush little beast.
It is always nice to see this cars on the road, they still run, till the factory was closed many years ago... Thank you Ivan and to the owner he is taking care and spend money on that..
Great diagnose strategy, Ivan! The two traces going up got my head spinning - disconnected from ECM and only the common positive on each injector, with test lamp to positive, there is a ground missing to complete the circuit. I could imagine a return across the two injectors, but still need the ground - I'm missing something. Great repair, with extras :-)
I’m so happy I found this channel, I believe it was suggested from South Main Auto. Great content here.
that hose coming off reminds of of after I got my car back from shop after it was involved in a front end crash. 1st day back driving , drive in to parking lot for work, and a big puff of steam comes from under the hood, upper coolant hose had come off because of bad clamp. I was able to just put it back and make it back home. Then I turned on the fan inside and the wipers turn on, I was very mad. the shop made it right. and never had a issue again.
Great work as always Ivan. 👍. My question is what happened? Back in the day not so long ago, most shops were pretty decent and honest. Even the dealerships though extremely expensive we’re not bad. Of course there was always the exception to the rule, but now it seems totally 180 flipped! Here is just one example from Our local Subaru stealership. My niece took her 2019 crostek, with 52k , and she bought it new there, to them for the FREE lifetime PSI. The gave her a “list” that thankfully She did not accept. She brought it to uncle Brian to check out. It needed front pads for sure, and absolutely nothing else for inspection. They told her it needed rear pads, which still had 60 + percent lining, and it needed the rear differential fluid service done, for 400$! I changed the front pads(N/C) and told Her it needs nothing else, and She took it back for FREE PSI which She saved a bundle on, well unless You add on the 80$ they charged Her for 2 wiper blades which were perfectly fine the day before. This stuff drives Me nuts to say the least!
Thanks for taking us along!
Wow! Again, there is -0- substitute for Brains and determination. great video!!
Well done Ivan. Looks cold there in PA. Never fear shirtless summer days are ahead !
My son's 900 Turbo has been an ongoing project. We've fixed several items, but every time he takes it for a test drive, the intake pipe pops off at the same place on the same road, right where he would be decelerating. I think it's time to take a close look at the hooter valve.
Glad i found this. I have 2 saabs. Now i know where to take them. State College isnt far from me.
Another brilliant diagnostic. Well done.
Thanks, Ivan. 🙂
love using tech 2. Always seemed easy navigation and learns/relearns. Nice confidence with graphing, reading and understanding. Mystified with previous techs lack of understanding. Maybe they just not savy with electronic outcomes n comms. Its a big country. Pity that its clients that have to pay but receive poor outcomes. Agree with 1 week duration, then keep your comms transparent, honest and simple.
I remember when Tech2 was released, was working for a Saab dealer in Australia at the time….it was like witchcraft for someone used to the old stuff 🤪
Ivan. Loved your diag. I got totally lost in the programming phase. :-) I couldn't sleep at night. :-) E=Mc2.
Well done ivan :-D You made another owner very happy again :-D How you remember all the jumping around like a kangaroo in that software mix i don't know. Please make sure you have loads of safe backups for that software. I have nagged people to backup there valuable data, then there storage fails and it's panic time.
@scientist100
Жыл бұрын
When you do it once and takes a long to find a solution; trust me, you will remember. I used to clone flip phones to be able to use the service on a touch screen phone back in the days and tedious work was involved, I memorized all the steps and I cannot tell you now how to do it as there is no need anymore; that was several years ago.
@zx8401ztv
Жыл бұрын
@@scientist100 i tend to document things if i think something is useful. Dam good thing i did, some of my memory seems to have trickled out of one ear :-D There are documents that i wonder how the hell i worked something out. Paper based reminder is handy :-D. Ill shut up now.
Usually the failure of PCMS of these type of Saabs is pist poor engeniring design on where is mounted right on the engine, they go bad quicker cuz of extreme engine heat, usually what I do here on my end is reroute the pcm so it won't cook... Once it's rerouted usually the pcm last a very long time.. We suggest this type of modification to our Saab customers with this problem and they go for it, since parts for these types of vehicles are very expensive and always on backorder down here where I'm at....Hope this tip helps you Ivan... Cheer's
Just discovered your channel. Brilliant diagnostic work! Every video is like a detective story. And you are Sherlock Holmes!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
8 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel! :)