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@Balls_on_Chin

10 ай бұрын

you know how you watch anime, and they show re-runs of the previous arc, knock that shit off, this aint one piece

@ajbones4207

10 ай бұрын

Destiny , I freakin HATE some of your takes on certain things but sometimes I freakin LOVE some of your takes on certain things. Damm You! Subbed. lol.

@shuttttt

10 ай бұрын

@@ajbones4207 It's a love-hate relationship but the reason I keep coming back is that Destiny usually keeps it real, so even if I really hate what he is saying I can at least believe he is not grifting most of the time.

@spacer04078

10 ай бұрын

destiny-ception

@wisemage0

10 ай бұрын

Good reaction, buddy.

Xqc and hasan are single-handedly making ethan look like a fucking genius.

@Fiebich

10 ай бұрын

>two people >single-handedly

@KamilDeKerel

10 ай бұрын

ive said it and imma say it again, he's not a dumbass, I understand the only thing destiny has said about him is he's a moron in litterally 2 videos total, but when it comes to certain areas he's actually very knowledgeable and realistic

@owenleal

10 ай бұрын

Two people by definition, cannot "single handedly" do anything, but I see what you mean.

@WanderTheNomad

10 ай бұрын

@@owenleal How would you word it then?

@thedeadsexyedge

10 ай бұрын

This revelation is concerning. Not used to Ethan look big brain.

Ethan deserves mad props for standing ground on this issue. It could've been easy to just capitulate to Hasan as his co-host, especially with his clout online.

@Kazamatigoh1221

10 ай бұрын

They might not be as good friends as we thought

@MadMagneto

10 ай бұрын

@@Kazamatigoh1221 I disagree, I would say it shows a stronger relationship to disagree on issues like this. If they just held the same, superficial takes then it seems obvious that they're both just farming views. I actually trust their platform more now than previously.

@eavesdropper0

10 ай бұрын

​@@MadMagnetofacts

@jeffwells641

10 ай бұрын

This is one of like 3 things Ethan actually knows quite a bit about. It's pretty funny to watch him actually spitting facts instead of nonsense for once.

@scottydog771

10 ай бұрын

54 minute video. Shit on Hasan. Slightly disagree with H3H3 Post it on a video 3 minutes after 🤔

It’s funny how hard Hasan tries to sound smart, only to be countered by how easy it is for Ethan to make him look like an idiot

@frankmarano1118

10 ай бұрын

I mean the dude literally just said about the Kai cenat riot, "It's just people dancing!" To "how dare the media report on what happened because it gives ammo to right wingers?" (so they should lie or not cover it at all?") Then it went to, "No youtuber could've ever predicted this would happen chat, stop calling me dumb for saying this!" To FINALLY end up with a hypocritical, "It was obvious this was going to happen all along. Duh". As if nobody noticed he just said the polar opposite hours earlier. Hasan is the king of Ls because he just can't keep his mouth shut & has emotional knee-jerk reactions to eeverything. If he'd just wait a few hours every time this shit wouldn't happen all the time

@gamblorrr

10 ай бұрын

​@@frankmarano1118such is the life of react streamers. Gotta be the first to get your opinion out there.

@frankmarano1118

10 ай бұрын

@@gamblorrr Its like those kids who comment FIRSTTT on every single video even in 2023 when its so dumb & pointless but one thousand times worse than them haha

@innominatum9906

10 ай бұрын

@@frankmarano1118 I mean Hasans take on the Russo-Ukranian war about whether Russia would invade or not and the aftermath.... kinda says all about him. Such a tool

@marron5272

10 ай бұрын

@@frankmarano1118I literally stop paying attention to this retarded ass arc when he put out the “they are just dancing” statement. If this is what happened, then clearly I saved myself a lot of frustration.

Seeing Hasan getting cooked by Ethan is a thing of beauty.

@carlosperalta1714

10 ай бұрын

Pearl, Hassan, and XQC. Let Ethan continue to cook!

@gamedude412

10 ай бұрын

Ethan Engagment metric must be trending downward so its time for "edgy" ness and drama bait.

@just_a_turtle_chad

10 ай бұрын

React content ain't going away tho

@ReubenModeXXX

10 ай бұрын

Hasan needs to hold onto Ethan and be extra careful. Anytime he has a falling out with someone his idiot fanbase goes after them and pretends like they never liked them. His fanbase is insanely toxic. He did a podcast with Trisha Paytus forever then after they dropped apart the entire fanbase came after her for shit people were saying forever. They went after Hila's brother for marrying someone Ethan didn't like. I guarantee those idiot's on his subreddit are going to destroy the guy.

@razzle_dazzle

10 ай бұрын

I love how Destiny cackles every time he hears Hasan struggling to make sense. It's one of the few times schadenfreude feels justified, lol.

"I don't know exactly what you mean, but I'm going to disagree with you" is such a goated line in the context used.

@siiiiiuu7

10 ай бұрын

It's what you say in an argument to someone where you know their main premise is wrong, but they keep talking in circles to confuse you lol

@RIP_ZYZZ1738

10 ай бұрын

It's a nice way of saying, "You're saying filler shit that will not change my mind". That being said, Ethan's argument is summed up to goal posting the argument until it becomes an argument about a content creator not having to reach out to tell you to do certain things. It went from "stealing content" to "you're gaining from someone else" (even if that person can benefit from your reaction).

@inplfw

10 ай бұрын

@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 nah it's a way of saying "Your weaselly little tangent isn't relevant to the issue we're discussing." Hasan had been trying to drag the conversation towards discussing the line between clearly okay and the gray-area. Ethan was shutting it down and bringing it back to what the zeitgeist is actually discussing. Ethan's consistent position through all of this is that the four pillars of fair use are probably a healthy and acceptable way to gauge the black and white and gray in-between when it comes to react content. He is staunchly opposed to those who exist in the black zone and thinks they should feel pressure to be better. That reactors who put forward no reasonable effort to transform the underlying content are committing theft and he uses xQc as his primary example. I don't think Ethan moved goal posts at all in this discussion. If Ethan argued against "gaining from someone else" I missed it (I just rewatched this vid sans the intro and rele bits to try and catch it). Hasan tried to bait him into the gains territory multiple times, though. Ethan specifically states he isn't trying to address live-streaming, where arguably the most gain is created by the practice of low-effort reacting. When Hasan asserts there isn't enough data to show the effects of uploading these reactions to youtube, Ethan responds with "It doesn't matter" shirking the notion that he cares who gains. When Hasan asserts the original creator can DMCA, Ethan responds with "It doesn't matter that they have remedies. It's not their responsibility to chase [xQc] down to f*ckin' remedy his theft." He continues to assert that xQc's position is indefensible in a way that is "Wrong, period, black, done." He keeps bringing it back to the spectrum of react content having that black zone that shouldn't be uploaded to youtube. Hasan was the one trying to pivot to monetization or gain. Ethan only shows concern about the theft, not the gain. He is someone who, in his own content, hopes to avoid the theft to create gain for himself off of other people's content, so why would he argue against the gain? Perhaps my bias made me not see what you might've seen, but I think he did an exceptional job of being consistent.

@RIP_ZYZZ1738

10 ай бұрын

@@inplfw He is consistently shutting down the possibility that it's not theft even if there's no data to support that it's stealing from others. I see where you get the idea that he's "consistent" but he clearly regards XQC as a "thief" but then turns it into "creators shouldn't have to chase you" (notice how he used "chase" to make his point seem stronger"). The truth is that it's not difficult whatsoever to reach out to someone who reacted to your video and talk to them. And it makes it seem like Ethan doesn't like the idea of communication. This isn't even talking about the simple fix of DMCA'ing the streamer. This is talking about how a content creator can talk to a streamer about what they have a problem with and how to fix it (they won't have a problem with the reaction itself; that's a fabricated problem because ultimately it can only benefit the creator). For example, one could say, "Hey! I like that you react to my content but I don't like how you don't do x y and z". Why is this communication labeled as "chasing"? The only time this can become a problem is if this happens more than _once_ with the same content creator. Truth is, this doesn't happen after the first time. But I don't think it should be deplorable to have open communication about what they don't like with the reaction. The only other time it would be deemed "chasing" is if it somehow negatively affected their video and they have to go and tell the streamer. But as we know, this doesn't happen and it would be foolish to go after a streamer with no data (especially if there's data to back up the other side of the argument). I think he's "consistent" by the definition of the word but he "consistently" changes what he ags a problem with based on what solution/answer is given to him. It's not your biases only. It's hard to see this when someone is talking in real time. But if you saw DarkViperAU's tweets, he did the same thing as Ethan did.

@inplfw

10 ай бұрын

@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 When Ethan asserts that it is theft, he is not talking about audience capture, served impressions, monetization, unique identity in the algorithm. Ethan is talking exclusively about about theft of intellectual property. This type of theft does not hinge on any analysis of data. He shuts down Hasan arguing that it isn't theft in those other regards, not because he's unwilling to admit whether or not he believes it to be theft in those areas, but because "it doesn't matter" (notice how he used "it doesn't matter" because it didn't matter?). Whether xQc is acting improper in any other regard is not fundamental to Ethan's position at any point and bringing those aspects up only serve as Hasan trying to escape the conversation Ethan is trying to have. Hasan is intentionally muddying the water by capitalizing on the idea of theft is applicable to multiple different concepts adjacent to the larger conversation regarding react streamers. To rephrase, the aspects of theft that you and Hasan seem fixated on discussing have no bearing on whether or not it is theft of intellectual property. Ethan shuts down those lines of conversation because his focus is the theft of the intellectual property. As far as Ethan's position is concerned, those other aspects of the conversation only serve to obfuscate. Ethan is very clear he does not care to have Hasan's conversation. Hasan is spineless and vague when trying to avoid Ethan's conversation. When I say that Ethan is consistent, I mean that his stated value in this discussion is consistent. He never changes what he has a problem with. No matter how many times Hasan tries to run away, Ethan holds his feet to the fire by bringing the conversation back to his thesis. That being while the gray area may be forgivable as fair use, black is indefensible as intellectual property theft. Hasan isn't providing answers or solutions at any point, he's providing copouts. It's really easy to see this in a video because you can pause, rewind, check captions, and a multitude of other things to make sure nothing was missed. Ethan's goalpost started with IP theft is bad, ended with IP theft is bad, and was consistently IP theft is bad the entire discussion. When Ethan says "chase" he is being hyperbolic, but that's because he's juxtaposing Hasan's suggestion of "just dmca, bro" against the fact that Hasan is dancing around the underlying theft. The word chase isn't making any point by itself, it is only highlighting that Hasan won't engage with Ethan's complaint. The differences in our commentary on this conversation seem to hinge on one thing. My framing says that Ethan's position is central and that Hasan should be responding and your framing is the opposite; that Hasan's position is central and Ethan should be responding. I stand behind my framing for two reasons: not only did Ethan initiate the conversation but their outcome regarding Ethan's contention necessarily colors subsequent relevant conversations. To make a loose baseball analogy, you and Hasan are adamant that the runner touched all the bases, whereas Ethan is claiming a foul ball. It is if and only if the ump calls the ball fair that the runner touching the bases will matter. Sidenotes: if you think DarkViperAU and Ethan share the same position on this, you need to reevaluate how willing you are to try and understand the other side. Ethan is arguably closer on this to Felix than Matt. Though I will admit, I agree that Matt has been guilty of moving his stated goalposts regarding this topic since it reignited. Also, my bias is not that I agree with Ethan, because I don't -- I don't agree with either side in their conversation. The bias I hinted at is a hatred of Hasan.

Ethan destroying Hasan is my new fave thing 😂

@narutolikestoes9028

10 ай бұрын

Jlp destroyed him lmao

@woshdndndj2103

10 ай бұрын

@@narutolikestoes9028Amazin

@Dirty_bubs

10 ай бұрын

Been a pretty fun week right?

@MarroniMusic

10 ай бұрын

@@narutolikestoes9028 JLP destroys everyone. He's a different breed.

@ThaChildishOne

10 ай бұрын

@@narutolikestoes9028Amazin!

Goddamn, I love it when Hasan gets flamed. I wish it were it's own genre.

@Hbizzjohnson

10 ай бұрын

I hope there's a react meta around it too

@MrAdamo

10 ай бұрын

I, too, hate Hasan

@larsu-gx579

10 ай бұрын

"It is own genre"?

@doublestarships646

10 ай бұрын

Hasanwave.

@jjmah7

10 ай бұрын

*its

Ethan used to do some of the most transformative react content out there at one point and after his legal battles he’s actually super qualified for this conversation

@Sweater04369

10 ай бұрын

He defended copyright on youtube and set precedents in court for youtube copy right

Ethan continues to be the most unexpected and inconsistent W on the internet. Between his debate with Pearl, his debate with that RP kid, his interview with Keffals and now this, he has actually made me like him a lot. He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for when he's speaking on the right topics and he actually seems to do some solid research.

@Nikifuj908

10 ай бұрын

Remember when he took on Keemstar? I lived for that shit.

@risenjoker923

10 ай бұрын

He's actually consistent with his Ws, it's just that people like to clip him out of context to present him in a negative light. Example, when Ethan called Tate a sextraffiker. People assumed that he was making false claims against Tate because of they disliked him. But the truth was that Ethan was one of the first creators to react to Tate pimping course. They explain the loverboy method 10 months before it all came to light with the arrest. That's why it was so disappointing that Destiny also called out Ethan for being and idiot because of that when he himself made the same claim when he reacted to the same videos much later.

@pepelechad536

10 ай бұрын

@@risenjoker923 Yea, that’s definitely not what I was talking about. He’s had plenty of major Ls over the years. Falsely accusing F&F of sexual misconduct, downplaying the importance of physical health, doxxing a random person, etc… the man has no shortage of stupid moments. I like him, but let’s not kid ourselves.

@risenjoker923

10 ай бұрын

@pepelechad536 non of those things you just listed are true at all. Those are all lies that were twisted because of out of context clips being spread around and people taking advantage that Ethan can be a poor communicator at times. Like he made a bit where he said going to the gym and working out is a waste of time then when they do the math it turns out working out is good, that part is always clip out. It was a satirical joke that he made yet it was clipped and spread around even though Ethan had a personal trainer and was working out consistently. His weight gain was due to his anti depression medication. This was a joke about "fat man bad". He didn't doxx anyone that was a fan who posted a link after the staff telling chat not to do it. Ethan apologized for the situation happening. But that apology was taken out of context to spread the lie that Ethan doxx someone. The fresh n Fot situation is also a lie. Ethan just reacted to the story told to him. That portion of the story did sound like sexual assult, Ethan was correct in questioning it. The woman said it wasn't and that wad it. What a lot of people are not aware Is that the segment is to have a fan call in and tell a story with Ethan having no knowledge of what will be said. It's a blind reaction. Even after all Ethan defends is that his reaction to thinking it was SA is valid and not that it is a fact that SA took place.

@pepelechad536

10 ай бұрын

@@risenjoker923 Bro you are on some medical-grade copium right now. It wasn't an "out-of-context" clip, I watched the entire interview he did with the girl where he was blatantly saying shit like "OMG, that's so suspicious!" and making weird insinuations when the F&F guys... didn't drink? You can say that all he was doing was listening to the girl, but he platformed, reacted to and promoted her message and _very clearly_ insinuated that they were guilty of some sexual malfeasance. You can go watch the clip of him doxxing the wrong person yourself. He's sitting there gleefully doing it while members *of his own staff* are trying to warn him. The health clip I admit I haven't seen in context, so you may be correct. But given your disingenuousness regarding the previous two examples, I'm inclined to not believe you.

Hasan's obsession with remaining on good terms with big creators is actually beyond pathetic. How do his fans not see through it? Even his tone is shaky

@supernova7848

10 ай бұрын

In French we say “l’ami de tout le est l’ami de personne “ ( The friend of everyone is the friend of no one )

@karljones7976

10 ай бұрын

Naw bro Hassan just doesn't give af about copyright laws, not surprising considering he calls himself a communist

@bravingbrivatebrian

10 ай бұрын

The explanation for Hasan's fan base I think is directly correlated to the unprecedented rise in autism

@UnrealGemini

10 ай бұрын

Logically it makes sense for his fan base. The problem is he’s talking about topics that would piss his friends off but he plays the middle when his friends press him about the topic

@ghostrecon3834

10 ай бұрын

@@supernova7848wow i love that so much

How did Ethan just grew from a non-debater to slaying everyone in like six months? :D A rage-fueled Ethan is a thing of beauty.

@Marshmellow3971

10 ай бұрын

Pretty simple actually, everyone he’s cooked is just a moron. It’s still a beautiful sight to behold.

@genericname8727

10 ай бұрын

@@Marshmellow3971 some of them haven’t been easy debate opponents though. Eg, Oli London is an absurd fool, yet has pretty good tactics for debates that are hard to argue against. Ethan did well addressing Oli’s arguments though

@Ogi1508

10 ай бұрын

i still wish he debated crowder, would probably be the one divorcing lol

@terranorth

10 ай бұрын

@@Marshmellow3971most people are morons in general. Hasan destroyed Tate in a debate, who is the biggest red pill guy. Ethan is above the average.

Ethan: "XQC asks Destiny for help moments before Ethan Klein debate that's awesome should I watch that?" Dan, with zero hesitation: "No..."

@godiebeard

10 ай бұрын

Why?

This shit is getting too meta for me. Now we are watching Destiny reacting to Ethan reacting to a video of Hasan reacting to a video

@shuttttt

10 ай бұрын

This is what you get when people don't engage with each other directly 🤣. We live in weird times

@nickb1762

10 ай бұрын

True I think we need David Attenborough to react to this video so it ties the loose ends

@jjmah7

10 ай бұрын

@@nickb1762 haha yeah…and even if he can’t at least we’ll hear his dope voice narrating it

Ethan roasting Hasan arc is not something I expected but am enjoying.

How can Ethan be so overrated and underrated at the same time? Anyways, he has been taking a lot of W’s lately with pearl, xqc, hasan

@madratter7031

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, it seems he's actually learning from his mistakes. We'll see lol

@jeffwells641

10 ай бұрын

He speaks with full confidence regardless of how knowledgeable he is about the subject. When he talks about things he knows about he can be pretty based. Given his legal history, Copyright law is actually one of the handful of subjects he's more knowledgeable about than most people, especially your average streamer. Now, like everybody in the whole world, Ethan isn't knowledgeable about 99% of things, but he still speaks with full confidence on those subjects. Thus, not based.

@wtf17727

10 ай бұрын

You answered the question yourself: It's Pearl, XQC and Hasan Hard to not win a "debate" against them.

@zeekawesomecus917

10 ай бұрын

Ethan is an anomaly to me. My early perception of him was good, although I can't exactly remember why. I think I mainly had watched some of his random skit videos here and there. Then he made a few based videos on keemstar and ricegum and other universally hated creators at the time. Then I distinctly remember a podcast of his where he talked about Micheal Jackson and was calling him a pedophile/groomer over information about him that had recently come out, which even though I'm not really much of a Micheal Jackson fan it didn't sit right with me. Then of course the much more somewhat recent debacle with Amouranth's husband and him doxxing the wrong guy or just attempting to dox people in general. Or him going after Fresh n Fit and bringing that girl on his podcast. I think his double edged sword is his confidence in his moral high ground. In areas where he is right, it exponentially helps him win good optics. But when he's especially wrong or goes about it the wrong way it ruins his credibility. And imo credibility is much more important than optics.

@TheAluvisify

10 ай бұрын

The dude is just a tidal wave. Takes massive Ws but also takes massive Ls.

It's obviously in Hasan's best interest to argue for being able to react to whatever you want however you want because he has done similar react stuff as well and wants to be able to do it in the future. He's arguing from a biased perspective and has something to gain from getting people on his side. He's not being intellectually honest and having a fair conversation. Running defense for XQC is in a way running defense for himself

@rosa_stars349

10 ай бұрын

exactly

@siiiiiuu7

10 ай бұрын

Accurate. Hasan does eventually admit to it, but he danced around the issue for a while. And Ethan, smartly counters by saying xQc takes it to such an extreme that he's the one putting creators like Hasan at risk, which is true.

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

hes entirely self interested. the problem with most of the "takes" involved with this entire debacle is they almost always conveniently line up with the easiest way for them to make money. if any person could choose to just walk out the door on their 9-5 and still get paid youd see people all pver doing it, but id bet they woulsnt be arguing its the right thing or moral thing to do.

Closest we will ever get to Hasan getting called out by destiny and him having to address it.

@krombopulos_michael

10 ай бұрын

Except ironically this is one of the few stupid Hasan takes that Destiny is also very ignorant on, and therefore agrees with

Say what you want about Ethan but dude has principles, he has no problem with contention against and cooking his own co host, Multiple large personalities, transphobe weirdos with welded-on clown mask, red pill dummies, willing to go to the mat/court on important issues, if something is wrong he has receipts for what he's done to try and rectify them. I get nothing out of saying any of this, no subs no clout, jackshit, dude just seems to have solid consistent principles. It's respectable even if you don't like him.

@MrRockapoodle72

10 ай бұрын

What? The guy is the living embodiment of hypocrisy. He only takes sides on issues when it suits him, takes on this big white knight approach til someone of that community challenges him and theb its all out the window. Believes all women, til they make allegations against him then its fake. He's a straight clown

@maydaymemer4660

10 ай бұрын

the kefals thing was cringe tho

@amyzonkers7568

10 ай бұрын

Everything that Ethan Klein self-righteously attacks people for are things he's done before. He does this for drama.

@plantbasedavid

10 ай бұрын

@@amyzonkers7568 Example?

@HateThyKing

10 ай бұрын

He's a jewish cuck. People just forget he's a huge piece of shit because he somewhat holds his ground versus Destiny's "arch enemy"

Ethan is listening to Destiny critique all of these and it's encouraging him to go at Hasan harder and harder 🤣

If Destiny doesn’t save Hasan and xqc by talking to ethan himself asap reaction content is about to be deemed a felony💀

@ningenslayer6306

10 ай бұрын

This shit really doesn’t matter to casual viewers, but I do hope we get a real debate with Destiny Vs. Ethan. The pro-reaction content arguments haven’t been represented well (regardless of whether you agree with them or not).

@The_High_SeAs

10 ай бұрын

I'm a destiny fan but I absolutely agree with Ethan on this front.

@doublestarships646

10 ай бұрын

I don't mind. Good. All those react channels going down would be epic.

@chinchillatwitch7234

10 ай бұрын

I would love to see ethan talk to Destiny, but like Destiny said, ethans producer kinda hates Destiny, because he is a socialist. With the produced shows they crop destiny out of debates and stuff.Destint called Ethan stupid in the past aswell Ethan seems to wake up on Destiny that he is not that horrible.

@GomulDart

10 ай бұрын

@@doublestarships646 I do mind. Bad. All those react channels going down would not be epic.

The Daliban sleeper agent has finally awoken behind enemy lines

It's so funny watching hasan talk to somebody who's arguments he can't just handwave away or strawman.

One thing I like about Ethan is he has principles regardless of what company he is in

I do hope Hassan gets recognized for having strong positions while being uninformed on the same topic

@tywilson3689

10 ай бұрын

Congrats you literally just described almost every single person on the planet. Most people are experts on either nothing, or maybe 1 or 2 things.

@kopekopekop

10 ай бұрын

@@tywilson3689 ??? No, people that don’t recognize their lack of knowledge and take strong positions are either stupid or arrogant. I’m not saying you need to be an expert at everything you strongly believe in but that if you really care about something you should read a couple articles instead of just looking at headlines.

@the1stmetalhead

10 ай бұрын

@@tywilson3689 you don’t need to be an expert on something to have strong positions.

@thegreatfapsby5786

10 ай бұрын

@@tywilson3689 That has nothing to do with what he said. Obviously people aren't experts on everything, if anything, doesn't mean those people speak publicly with confidence, it also doesn't mean they aren't informed. Implying Hasan is not in the wrong because, "DURR DURR MOST PEOPLE DON"T KNOW STUFF" is a retarded take. Hasan says some things, where I'm actually surprised at how coherent it is, but most the time he is slogging through trying to come up with something on the fly to justify how he feels about something, because he probably hasn't even thought deeply about it. also im gay

@hellsjamfleas

10 ай бұрын

Hassan positions on Ukraine and Russia have been particularly bad. As a European you would get laughed out of any conversation with the takes he has. He is somehow getting a load of Russian propaganda and bullshit sent his way and doesn't know how to critically grudge or engage with it. Even when he is proven wrong over and over he moves his goalposts back. It's alright to get things wrong, but we deal with it , self examine and try to do better. Not look for new angles to be wrong.

Ethan is slowly but surely regaining respect. It’s a sight to see, really. Hopefully he continues down this path.

@gudshjrehand3739

10 ай бұрын

Hopefully but he has a long journey ahead of him.

@mahamedyusuf686

10 ай бұрын

How did he even lose respect to begin with?

@Nobbazantino

10 ай бұрын

@@mahamedyusuf686 fat man bad

@aragog0559

10 ай бұрын

​@@mahamedyusuf686my question exactly. Funny how there is never any response

@fernandodolz9247

10 ай бұрын

@@aragog0559 they love to say that, like what exactly ethan did in the past you missed so much about, cause some of there past content was pretty obnoxious and kinda cringe

Oh good! I’m glad Ethan watched y’all talking. I was hoping he would.

Ethan being a good debater on the right topic was NOT on my 2023 bingo card

@italianwaffle5592

10 ай бұрын

Twice too?

@nickb1762

10 ай бұрын

My bingo card has “the queen rises again and challenges Hasan to boxing” 😳😳😳

I love how hard Destiny tries here to make sure he reacts sufficiently to every bit.

@peaceonmars

10 ай бұрын

He's always done this.

@bleeem

10 ай бұрын

As you should? You want him to be like Xqc who randomly after 5 minutes says "chat chat ndwadniwaundwaiubdabdywabdawdwa yes or no?" then another 5 minutes go by and he mumbles some words and the video ends.

@wingusdingus4958

10 ай бұрын

based hard reacter

@user-fe9dj6wq8e

10 ай бұрын

@@bleeem Sure, just saying it's funny to see how he seems to be even more deliberate about it

@supernova7848

10 ай бұрын

@@user-fe9dj6wq8e as he should 😂 he’s “reacting harder “

Hassan on his stream: I hate IP laws, I am against Ip laws. There should be no IP laws. Ethan: So are you against ip laws? Hassan: Uhm....

the point isn't "react content hurts THE original creator" it probably actually benefits them the point is "reaction content hurts ALL original content" the idea that impressions arent infinite is absolutely ridiculous

@einhalbesbrot

7 ай бұрын

Impressions arent infinite? I as a human have limited time to spend on the internet. If that time is spend on a reupload, then no, the original creator wont get any impressions.

Hasan is so clueless its fantastical

@uhok6712

10 ай бұрын

It is unbelievable because he’s not clueless. He knows what he is doing is wrong he just doesn’t care.

@cool_guyomi9101

10 ай бұрын

It’s not clueless it’s just a different frame of mind. Ethan feels it’s theft, Hassan doesnt to an extent

@uhok6712

10 ай бұрын

@@cool_guyomi9101 it is theft. Everyone knows it’s theft. It’s called plagiarism and if you’ve passed middle school you know what it is.

@berb4413

10 ай бұрын

@@cool_guyomi9101 Hasan dosent even have a clear position he will bend like a rubberband if a person he like does not agree just watch the video its pretty crazy

@berb4413

10 ай бұрын

@@uhok6712 i dont think that he is grifting he seems very serious about his stupidity

I love when Destiny brings up Hasan's 'Wellll I wouldn't PERSONALLY do that, buuuuut' schtick because he does it so often

This entire topic of discussion just makes me appreciate streamers like Asmongold even more. The man, whilst watching a video, seems to constantly input or react to such an extent that it rivals or surpass the total runtime of the video.

@tiz7244

10 ай бұрын

This bro, love a lot of his react content

@ExeErdna

10 ай бұрын

Asmon can take 10min video and turn it into an hour reaction.

@thenightmancometh93

10 ай бұрын

He’s the only “react channel” that consistently reaches the standard of fair use with every video he watches

@Silvergrooves42

10 ай бұрын

@@thenightmancometh93 I mean there's a ton of them that do that - they are just not in a majority.

@tigerfestivals5137

10 ай бұрын

Asmon is better than most but he still uses the exact video title and thumbnail a lot as well as uploading the video on the same platform (KZread) often like a day after the original upload

Man i love when Hasan realizes hes not getting a pass and gets anxious over the conflict

The argument that I haven’t heard get out is this: React content does not scale as a genre. By definition it’s a parasite that doesn’t exist without a host. If there was all other content available everything would be fine. If there was only react content, it would literally be a recursive loop of react content which people already meme about now. I like some react content because I enjoy the personality or the perspective of the reactor ei. Destiny or CodyKo. But the entitlement Hasan and others have is crazy. You are sitting there watching someone else’s video, you are making more money watching their video then they are making their own video. If someone doesn’t like the idea that people are leeching off of the hard work of your videos I dont understand the push back. Irrespective of the personal benefit of the channel.

@ProphetMagus

10 ай бұрын

Good point

@Theyungcity23

10 ай бұрын

What is the entitlement of Hasan? Even Destiny says he's agreeing with him in the video.

@FringeSpectre

10 ай бұрын

​@@Theyungcity23 "even Destiny says..." I don't give a fuck. Destiny is wrong. Don't think you have to agree with everything a streamer you like says.

@Theyungcity23

10 ай бұрын

@@FringeSpectre I'm asking what is the entitlement? He's talking like the video is about Destiny saying that Hasan is entitled. Where is that coming from?

@krombopulos_michael

10 ай бұрын

​@@Theyungcity23he never said or implied that Destiny said this. Destiny is pretty much aligned with Hasan and has an equally bad stance on this.

this ethan redemption arc is not the content i was expecting to get this month, but so far i’m loving it!

oh my god seeing hasan struggle to talk is both hilarious and incredibly sad, its like he woudnt have expected to have anyone confront him

It's brutal to listen to Hasan explain anything

@bibek12332

10 ай бұрын

Hey do you know where destiny streams? I cant find him on twitch

@christopherwillson

10 ай бұрын

@@bibek12332 Hey. He is banned on Twitch. He streams on KZread and Kick.

@bibek12332

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherwillson but it says streamed 10 months ago on his live section? He is liberal right? Why was he banned?

@christopherwillson

10 ай бұрын

@@bibek12332 He doesn't usually save streams on his channel. You can find most of his KZread streams by typing "destiny vods" into Google. I use vyneer personally. And yes, he is liberal. He thinks he was banned for saying something about a trans person that got people upset.

@bdaarmy9736

10 ай бұрын

​@@bibek12332 ? What you talking about?

If this is how he folds to *Ethan Klein* just imagine how fast he would turn into a corncob if confronted by the candy man

@mikeb7195

10 ай бұрын

The money I would pay to watch that happen knows no bounds

@shuttttt

10 ай бұрын

who tf is the candy man 🤨

@campbell682

10 ай бұрын

@@shuttttt Samir Al-Hyeed

@mikeb7195

10 ай бұрын

@@shuttttt the ghost of kyiv

@henriklarssen1331

10 ай бұрын

Candy man vs cenks nephew sounds like alot of fun.

I don't think it's very difficult at all to stake out what reaction content creator is reacting hard enough. I think if you're reacting to a video and your reaction contains enough substance to where it could stand alone as its own video, Independent from the video you're watching then at that point I believe you've achieved transformative content.

@shuttttt

10 ай бұрын

Yeah this whole argument around the "react harder' meme is so stupid. There is no fine line. It's very easy to tell which react content is transformative and which is not. Saying "that's crazy" 10 times in a 50 minute video is obviously not, on the other hand offering insight, opinions and explanations makes the content transformative and respecting the original creator by highlighting their channel and linking to their stuff is the proper etiquette. As a streamer, all you really have to do is actually properly engage with the content you are using. There is no gray area. Just respect the creators and don't be a douche. This shouldn't be so hard to grasp.

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

​@@shuttttt and for the lazy people who cant. just drop that creator a line and send em some cash. if people were dropping 50% of their earnings while they were freebooting the content to entertain their fans npt one person would be arguing the morality line. at the end of the day the morality argument hinges on harm and its really hard to prove positive or negative effects. so just pay em

@01man01truck

10 ай бұрын

@@Senorbenignhillarity I think that any creator who finds themselves having their content repeatedly reacted to, especially by larger creators, should create a patreon with a "creator tier" levels. You'll have different tiers depending on how many subs the reaction creator has and then that creator would just have to pay the original creator that much money per month if they want to continue reacting to that person's content.

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

@@01man01truck the problem would be the requirement factor. the people who are usually "borrowing" said ip are also the ones least willing to part with said money. most if not all of their decisions or defenses of their own actions are all aligned with the greatest monitary benefit to themselves. thus i sincerely doubt leaving the option open to them will ever work...and shaming.. ya no public shaming will work as the majority of twitch viewers live in an entirely different world from reality.

@01man01truck

10 ай бұрын

@@Senorbenignhillarity I agree that you're probably right. And to those who don't care that's when you DMCA claim them. Unless it's transformative, of course, then none of this really matters. But if you're being a lazy shithead, then pay up or get claimed.

Guys, imma say it. Destiny should be a man's name now

@UnrealGemini

10 ай бұрын

Nah still haven’t meant or seen a man with the name destiny

@doublem1nt

10 ай бұрын

Dead😂

@13984980

10 ай бұрын

Don’t talk about my Queen like that

@laizerwoolf

10 ай бұрын

It should be Destino if you want it to be a man's name

@deathstr1ker6666

10 ай бұрын

He said it 👀

0:54 yo august the music the reverb the edit the mixing you are killing it my guy

For August, something I have noticed recently is that when I listen to these videos in the background while playing games, the algorithm will play podcast type content afterwards. When I watch/skim through I get more "normal" recommended feed. They are definitely tracking if I am alt tabbed or have a video on mute. This is relevant because it explains Destiny's growth over the last year going on podcasts and debating podcasters. I am not alone in watching these alt tabbed. The algorithm is probably treating Destiny as a hub that connects very disconnected types of content that may not be obvious. It explains why random podcasters have been reaching out to Destiny for chats because they are getting here through recommendations.

Destiny and Ethan is something i wanna see more than Destiny and Shapiro

24:59 "you just have to create content that people want to watch, you can't game the system" Unless you just take someone else's good content that people want to watch and put it on your own channel, allowing you to upload way more good content than anybody else

@loiiblank4699

10 ай бұрын

Surprised me that he would admit that he is wrong on his own argument. Yes if there is not thievery you wouldn't be recommened stolen content. Holy fuck all these streamers are so desperate to protect their own bag while knowing that they are in the wrong.

13:23 Preamp boosts the signal going into a chain (ie microphone preamp, guitar preamp etc.) and the amp boosts the signal going out of the chain (headphones, speakers etc.). You even have devices like guitaramps that have a pre-amp section built in to boosts the raw input of a guitar before taking it trough either the physical or virtual effect chain built into the amp, then it has an amp section at the end of that chain that boosts the completed signal to be played trough the speakers connected to the amp. So yeah, preamp goes before amp technically XD

Ethan's stock is rising, dude might say some clownish stuff sometimes but his principled stance on this is admirable.

@aragog0559

10 ай бұрын

What clownish stuff? Why does nobody ever answers this fucking question?

@Nikifuj908

10 ай бұрын

​@@aragog0559Platforming the girl who accused Fresh & Fit of assault, whining about Aba & Preach...

@aragog0559

10 ай бұрын

@@Nikifuj908 and? They're pieces of shit. And didn't they post like 3 hate videos about him prior to that?

@livchamps9573

10 ай бұрын

@@aragog0559ethan himself can be incredibly lazy when it comes to reporting on current events. when he's not hyperfixated on something, he's lethargic and uninteresting. i used to watch the h3 podcast and had to stop bc he just wasn't engaging at all anymore.

@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665

4 ай бұрын

@@Nikifuj908oh god Aba and reach are just annoying

he really paved it on his own

We need masculine idubbz back for this topic. We need a content cop on XQC 😂

16:07 perfect clip to add here 😂. Give the editor another raise

Destiny was wrong H3H3 did recognize him and that's pretty fucking awesome

“I dont know exactly what you mean but im gonna disagree with you” NEEDS TO BE A TSHIRT

the progression of this arc has been an interesting game of everyone trying to play 4D chess while only having a checkers-level understanding of it

But Ethan defended reaction content 1 year ago. HE ATTACKED DARKVIPERAU for that so hard. Why is nobody recognising that

@usucdik

10 ай бұрын

Because I doubt your claim.

@hellsjamfleas

10 ай бұрын

Not sure exactly what you are referring to but Ethan has never been attacking reaction content, even bad reaction content. He's attacking the deliberate taking of somebody else's content purely to entertain your own audience. He thinks it should really apply across the board when the 'react' is no more transformative than a watch party but thinks it's particularly bad on high effort and artistic content. He is angry at Hasan and XQC for thinking it's acceptable to play videos and then leave so they are getting paid as an empty chair, while another person's hard work entertains their audience. A Lot of the criticism of dark viper was he compared it to rape and was extremely hyperbolic. I've seen streamers basically agree with him but criticise how it was written.

@krombopulos_michael

10 ай бұрын

​@@hellsjamfleasthat's the same think Dark Viper criticised. It really just seems like a year ago, Ethan was just on auto mode defending Hasan because they're friends, and now he sees someone he dislikes doing it and is actually applying some more critical thought to it.

God I need to know how Destiny keeps his calm, I would love to be able to do this. How the hell do you outline your arguments. I would adore to learn

When destiny says at 19:24 “I don’t know if i believe that if those weren’t filled with react content that they would be filled with something different” confuses me because Destiny being a streamer and KZreadr should know how impression slots work. If a react video wasn’t served in that spot, something else would 100% be there. The real question is what would be there which is a fair question because it isn’t guaranteed that the original video would show in that spot, but a video would be there to replace the reaction video. Also when he says it’s not a compelling argument, I don’t understand that either. Another video WILL be there to fill that impression slot. Now you could argue that the algorithm wouldn’t fill the slot with something the user has a high chance to click on, but I think that falls flat on its face too. You’re basically arguing the KZread algorithm isn’t good enough when in reality it’s incredibly good and has a massive success rate at filling impressions with videos that users have a high rate of clicking.

My ass is reacting to last night's chicken parm. Objectively transformative.

13:22 Pre-amp vs Amp Pre-Amp - brings the signal to line level Amp - brings signal to usable level past line level Mics generally use pre-amps since analog to digital conversion is done at line level. An external preamp would be used for more power hungry mics that have trouble maintaining line level with an audio interface’s built in preamps. In the case of headphones or speakers, they have a wild range of power demands so a amp is used to bring the levels up what’s needed. Generally, a pre-amp stage still exists between digital to analog conversion stage and amp stage. Just in case anyone is curious.

Ethan is going to have the same realization with Hasan that he had with Trisha Paytas. Where he realizes after awhile "holy shit it was a bad idea teaming with this person"

@popotade4621

10 ай бұрын

It's funny because I said the opposite when leftovers started. I was sure Hasan would realize how much of a bad faith idiot Ethan is and eventually dissociate himself from him but now it's actually Ethan arriving to that conclusion about Hasan. Real life does surpass fiction.

@terraguttierez2996

9 ай бұрын

i mean of course Hasan has stupid takes. We all have takes other people find stupid. But trisha paytas is on a whole different level about the lying, the toxicity etc. I think you just are biased. In no way is trisha paytas ever on the same level as Hasan. Hasan and Ethan can still have a cordial respectful conversation whereas trisha walked out every how many episodes

Ethan did a whole stream showing XQCs DMs he sent at like 2 AM after the debate. XQC was soooooo salty. He was talking so much shit. It was so childish.

@Syn741

10 ай бұрын

I mean that's xqc for you. You shouldn't expect anything from him.

@mary1412

10 ай бұрын

@@Syn741oh I didn’t lol the memes were really funny

@Syn741

10 ай бұрын

@mary1412 I mean you did say he was talking so much shit. Which kind of implied that you expected him to not do it.

@wingusdingus4958

10 ай бұрын

@@Syn741 Saying something happened doesn't imply you expected the opposite lol. If anything, I'd assume he expected Xqc to act that way

@mary1412

10 ай бұрын

@@Syn741 ummm how does that imply that? 😂 if I said “I can’t believe he’s taking so much shit” or something I would understand… but yeah he was being a big baby. Acting like a child for real.

@destiny I really dont think Dan hates you, or really even dislikes you. I think MOST of the "destiny censorship" on H3 is mostly due to Hasan. I watch a TON of both you and H3 and can 100% tell the difference between when they discuss you, including Dan, on every other show, except the Thursday show w/Hasan. Ethan would 1000% have you on live as a guest or whatever ✌❤

Preamp is a voltage amplifier that goes before a power amp that is current amplifier and gives the massive power boost needed for speakers to make sound. The cloudlifter is a preamp stage but still goes into another preamp usually.

Reacting positively or negatively, you should actively push people to check out the original creators and their content.

@elsupermano4646

10 ай бұрын

Reactors are the bottom feeders of content generation, but like real bottom feeders they do have a place in the ecosystem. Because no matter what you are, KZread equivalent stealing content. But by feeding viewers to the original creator you are improving their and your situation. They get more recurring viewers and fans I.e. more compensation for their work and more motivation to create the content you react to. But it’s obvious what you doing when you skip their in video ads, you’re just a parasite.

There’s basically 3 positions. 1 is it’s on the original creators shoulders to find and chase down people who take their content to try and get payment or have it taken down. 2 is it’s on the person who wants to use the content to reach out to the creator and get permission. 3 as long as it’s transformative enough you don’t need permission from the creator. I think 2 and 3 are reasonable, 1 is not. I wonder how hasan feels about taking peoples art without permission and expecting the artist to track down every person who does so and DM them and try to have them stop using it or pay for it, seems to me you should ask the artist first or pay them

@aenpien

10 ай бұрын

I would argue that 1 is acceptable because it's the best system we have for now, as in, most convenient on average even if the original creators are "inconvenienced" (I put inconvenienced in quotes because most original creators are ok with react content). However it would be better if there was a system where an uploader could check a box that marks a video as "ok to react to". xqc mentioned that having a better system would be nice during Destiny's debate prep.

@RIP_ZYZZ1738

10 ай бұрын

Love how you're making it seem difficult so that 1 sounds crazy. There's no "chasing" being done. And that's ignoring the fact that no one complains about their content being reacted to. It's a fabricated issue by people who don't get reacted to. The process is super simple and you act like hundreds of people are reacting to every video. Even if they were, these channels benefit from it. That's why people aren't going after everyone who's reacting. It's as simple as emailing/dm'ing the person who reacted to you or their editors.

@FringeSpectre

10 ай бұрын

​@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 I love how you're just okay with thievery. "Oh an artist made something? It's mine now!" That's what you're arguing for.

@krombopulos_michael

10 ай бұрын

3 is not in contention with 1 or 2, it's just a different scenario. If the work is transformative, then the original creator has no rights to it. The person who transformed it owns the copyright of what they made and can defend that copyright in court. They don't need any approval from the original author, and don't owe them anything.

DestinyxEthan the frenemies we deserve

@mickeymauschen

10 ай бұрын

Pls no, destiny is too try hard

i'm just happy destiny gets to witness ethan roasting hasan.

It’s so funny watching this conversation happen cus the gaming community had this same convo like 12 years ago about machinimas vs let’s play channels

I think Hasan makes his voice deeper the more wrong he is. Like a vocal Pinocchio. Also, Friday Beers guys are incredible!

lol at destiny reacting more than he normally does

Preamps boost weak output signals to line level input, about 1 volt. Amps boost line level input sound to audible levels with enough gain to drive a speaker.

I wonder if Destiny would now change some numbers in regard to his IQ tier list. Previously he gave Hasan "above average" and Ethan got the only "surely below average".

I would die for Ethan and Destiny to have a conversation about this.

@FringeSpectre

10 ай бұрын

It would be nice to see Destiny take an L. I feel like he's on the wrong side of this considering him trying to help XQC, who is clearly wrong on every front.

@adamgarner4149

10 ай бұрын

Destiny would shred him.... Ethan's 100% wrong. The only reason he has good karma about this, is jealous people who are hopping on the anti-react bandwagon to feel better. Once people settle down and react is accepted. Watch Ethan slowly 180 flip on this issue, mark my words.

@domerame5913

10 ай бұрын

@@FringeSpectre What L, The simple graph that he couldn't understand? You learn this stuff in high school, hilarious how people think Ethan is cooking anyone. xqc and hasan just buried their own grave. It's like debating a child and barely winning.

Hasan being such a rat is so funny

"a preamp raises a weaker signal chain to line level, while an amplifier raises a line level signal [1] to speaker level." For instance a mic is below line level, so a preamp takes that mic signal up to line level hot enough to be recorded and broadcast. That line level is too weak for speakers, so an amplifier takes the line level signal and makes it hot enough to drive speakers or headphones. A cloud lifter goes before the preamp, using Phantom power to raise the signal of a quiet dynamic or ribbon mic so it is a healthier level for the preamp to work with.

Wouldn’t surprise me if we see Hassan split from Ethan soon after this.

We are 9 levels deep in reactions at this point. We are watching destiny react to ethan and hasan react to destiny and xqcs reactions to another video, once someone else reacts to this than ethan reacts to that and then destiny reacts to that again it’s going to look like the mirror void when you start up OBS

I'd say if we get one more contentious podcast like this with Ethan and Hasan, Hasan is cutting ties. Dude hates friction if he can't control it.

@Queef_Storm

13 күн бұрын

You called it

It's sus to me how much nonsensical defense Destiny is doing for xQc. Destiny's just writing off the copyright infringement take of guy who had a problem with xQc because he's an "xQc hater". What? That's not an argument whatsoever. I also don't like xQc, and I also support IP rights on a moral level as well as legal, but the reason I don't like xQc didn't start with his opinions about stealing other people's work.

Dan's "noo...." was so soy and I lost some respect for him there. Hasan rambled for an hour and said less than Hila who messaged a single sentence to Ethan at the end.

what i dont understand is how can a person do something that is morally wrong (steal someone's content for example) and justify doing it as ok with "it doesn't hurt anyone" and still think they are a moral person? Can someone help explain this as the only asnwer keep coming to is that they are a either a sociopath or psychopath or both.

@aenpien

10 ай бұрын

The thing that you're missing is that no one is talking about "stealing content" here except Ethan. React content (not talking about reuploading the same video) doesn't hurt the original creator. People like Ethan argue as if it does, but it doesn't. Streamers who do react content are aware that it doesn't hurt the original creators, so they will say they're not acting immorally.

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

​@@aenpien it "doesnt" hurt them that we know of. conveniently this doesnt hurt also reallllly really helps the person doing the stealing. theyve also conveniently not shown it always helps either. the people who watch it without transforming it off platform have all of the upside and use the defense of well it cannot hurt them while deriving all of the utlity (entertaij viewers get donations) start forcing streamers to either transform or give their earnings during thst video to the youtuber they are freebooting and watch that tune change in a millisecond

@RIP_ZYZZ1738

10 ай бұрын

​​@@SenorbenignhillarityThere's proof of this but not proof that it hurts people. So the goal post gets moved until eventually, the person you're debating can concede the argument and say they don't care. Because "stealing content" is a lot harder to concede to than "gaining from another's content". That's the reason people like XQC say they don't care. Because it's an issue that doesn't actually exist and the only people arguing it are people who don't get reacted to. People started this drama because they're "defending" Lemmino who doesn't even mind his videos being reacted to Oh and XQC is literally willing to give 10× what he gained from reacting to the video of that's what the content creator wants. So no, they wouldn't switch up

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 the proof it helps people is either so miniscule or for pne off anecdotes tho. if you have 5 people it helps amazing. but that still isnt a rule that shpuld be followed. If people fkubd out that if you shoplifted constantly from walmart every now and then loss prevention people would get raises to go after shop lifters it doesnt make the theft better. xqc can say that all he wants. show me when he actually does it lol. creatora being fine with it when they are as large as lemmino isnt surprising. it wont affect him at all. smaller creatora are the ones where either the help or harm problem would have to be researched. until streamers are just paying for what they dont transform I doubt people will ever be ok with the current react meta.. itll bubble up again hopefully not with a knee jerk reaxtion from youtube or twitch

what is the game in the background ?

Ethans come a long way from "don't even think about it."

I started getting recommended Jubilee videos when I was watching reacts from creators that I'm already subscribed to. I also discovered Destiny through my recommendation because I was already subscribed to Peaches & Cream and Cream was on Destiny discussing some political shit. So yeah I understand how reacting could be beneficial. The problem is the barely doing anything in the reaction video I don't mind if it's streaming but if the reaction on streams wasn't interesting enough you don't cut and post on KZread that won't be your content that you're posting. The viewer should feel like their watching you for your input not just to see the video you're reacting to.

@terraguttierez2996

9 ай бұрын

exactly. Imagine watching the same exact video again. VERY few people would watch the original content if the react vid wasnt transformative. Saying that theyre technically "not taking anything from the creator monetarily so its not bad cause youre not harming the creator" is bs. The creator put in the time and effort and said "yeah you can watch it for free here cause this platform pays me". Thats what the creator is fine with. Even if it didnt take away views from the original vid, youre stealing time,effort and creativity. The reason you cant make any compelling content is cause you cant put in the same amount of time effort and creativity as that other person. We can actually quantify how much the creator is losing , because imagine if you paid someone to produce and come up with a concept for a vid for your channel. That would probably be the minimum amount loss on the creators side.

Ethan lookin like a Michelin Star chef the way he is cooking people right now.

"I don't know exactly what you mean, but I'm gonna disagree with you" is the feel good hit of the summer.

Destiny saying “that’s crazy chat” killed me.

I hope destiny's contacts Ethan after this and have a grown up debate. I don't think Hassan is clueless it's just his millions depends on his ignorance.

What a ride it has been with Ethan over the decade.

What game is destiny playing?

One thing Joe Rogan does is fight companion episodes of his pod cast where they live react to fights(most pay-per-view) but they dont show the original broadcast. They only have a time ticker so you can try to match your own version to theirs. In that way they affectively react without taking away from the original-broadcast. This might be something youtube could do to help this problem. A type of pip vid where both the original and the reaction play where the reaction is in fullscreen streamer camera but is a small box ontop of the original content where if you use a specific streamers reaction it still plays the original video with their face box in the corner which the user could move. Then if they pause the vid pauses so they can talk.

My fav black lady is reacting to Ethan reacting to my fav black lady reacting to Ethan’s talk with Felix. What a moment to be alive.

Hasan gives me the vibes that he as a IP holder would be so stingy and unfair with the fair use rules for reactions while simultaneously expecting every creator to allow him to do any degree of reactions with theirs.

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

because he does, but in his case it was for people mocking him with his own vids and copyright strikes.. dont think he cares anymore tho. hes at the level of fuck you money

@BNezzy

10 ай бұрын

how people act with FU money says everything about who they are as a person and if they are good or not. Hasan has proven he isnt a good person. I just wish his followers would realize it.@@Senorbenignhillarity

What game is that though?

Crowd effect is a pretty big factor for getting people to engage with content they otherwise wouldn't. The person to figure out how to allow content to be watched in groups with a common chat is going to make bank.

@Senorbenignhillarity

10 ай бұрын

they already have it.. its called twitch lol. the problem they have is a huge copyright issue that will hit them like a ton of bricks in the near future. this is just the next cliff until the final drop off this annoying rollercoaster.

@backlog2389

10 ай бұрын

@@Senorbenignhillarity Sorry, I should ammend my previous statement to "legally allow" not just "allow".

Destiny and his orbiters offering back pats over the graph argument is like watching flat earthers saying "Yeah, but it looks flat." Its applying just a hunch in opposition to mathematical reality.

@hugo3627

10 ай бұрын

Its not though, because the graph does not prove anything. It shows a very normal trend for views gained and does not indicate any effects of the reaction video.

@righteousindifference3179

10 ай бұрын

@hugo3627 really? Views drop at a linear rate into the negatives? A trend of -35% to -40% fits the before, fits the after, and bridges perfectly over the day of the upload. And trying to argue that videos follow a linear path in a situation where 0 can never occur is just not reflecting what is possible in reality. It's looking at a small section and saying, "looks flat to me." Oh. And their linear trend is including the day in question.

My conditional faith in Ethan is slowly being restored. Hasan being confronted to his face is a rare and precious sight.

@Kattery_Alt

10 ай бұрын

Lol copy pasted for likes, you shameless turtle

@robertterrell7057

10 ай бұрын

Yo, the reddit hates u. I didn't even know u where a regular

@jakestamper1031

10 ай бұрын

Bro the every single video comment thing is pretty cringe

@ShacoPL

10 ай бұрын

Did you just copy a comment to get likes? Holy fuck that's pathetic

@andrewwall4155

10 ай бұрын

@@robertterrell7057turtle chad has a Reddit page now? 😂

Who is the guy that called in? I don’t recognize his voice

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Hasan's voice has reached new levels of vocal fry. Maybe it's from getting cooked so hard in moments like this.