This show has become my favorite comedy

@jackthebassman1

Жыл бұрын

From across the pond, I love it, it’s really hilarious.

@tw3235

Жыл бұрын

The world is full of stupid.

@jensandersen7011

Жыл бұрын

@@jackthebassman1 Yes, very American.

@jackthebassman1

Жыл бұрын

@@jensandersen7011 I can feel the embarrassment of rational Americans from here !

@undrwatropium3724

Жыл бұрын

​@@jackthebassman1 sigh 😔

I love how he was told the name of the argument he was making and he didn’t think “oh this isn’t original?”

@JayMaverick

Жыл бұрын

Listening and self-awareness generally don't go well together with theism.

@capthavic

Жыл бұрын

That presumes he was capable of thought :P

I apologize for this simple-minded man on behalf of Erics everywhere

@isveryniceyes

Жыл бұрын

At least he didn't spell it with a K

@acgsmith5937

9 ай бұрын

I would now change my name if I were you.

@ericreinert5494

Ай бұрын

Thank you

"The smallest molecule is the atom" Oh boy, this will be a good one...

@shadowshedinja6124

Жыл бұрын

I mean if you count noble gasses then sure, but the vast majority of molecules have 2+ atoms.

@AdmiralBison

Жыл бұрын

I understand how silly it is, but I do wonder for those who never took High school Chemistry or any Science may not actually know what the difference is. For a time in high school I thought a Galaxy and a Universe were the same thing. I learned what the difference was through all things in Star Trek!!! Science subjects were 'elective' in high school for me back in the day, so I'm wondering if that is a possible reason for a lack of fundamental Scientific literacy amongst adults in the United States compared to other first world countries. They didn't get a chance to learn basic Science subjects and principles properly in school. To make a point, Bill O'Reilly on Fox News was famously ridiculed for his 'Tides goes in, tide goes out - it can't be explained' nonsense which was obviously the moon, but if a supposedly educated and professional adult like that couldn't grasp what caused tides, what chance do many Americans who struggled in school and don't have a tertiary degree have?

@DaveZee823

Жыл бұрын

Ali G said it best when he said " flour" was the smallest thing. lol

@TwoForFlinchin1

Жыл бұрын

A molecule is defined as the smallest unit of a compound that contains the chemical properties of the compound. The noble gases refute this as they cannot make molecules and are the smallest unit of their element. In my opinion noble gas atoms are molecules but I don't think the callers argument hinges upon this granular detail at all

@ishmaelkelly951

Жыл бұрын

These type of arguments are so easy to debunk it's almost laughable🤭 every time I hear this argument from Christian apologies of something can't come from nothing or the watchmakers argument, it's funny that when you use there on flawed logic against them, they get dumbfounded when you come at them with logic. When I hear that argument, the first thing that I tell a Christian apologist is, if something can't come from nothing, then who created God?🤔 and then who created the god that created God? or who created the god that created God that created God?? and the first thing that come out of these brainwashed people's mouth is , oh God didn't come from nowhere, he created himself; he created himself?!?!? I thought these Christians say that something can't come from nothing, so how did God create himself when something can't come from nothing????? It's sad to see how religion can twist the person's mind into a pretzel to the point where they just don't even see the error in their logic. I am so glad that I was smart enough to educate myself to get out of this delusional nonsense🙄

For some strange reason creationists are never adamant about pointing out that someone had to create rape, cancer, and violence.

This is both painful to watch and hilarious at the same time

@Demetrius416

Жыл бұрын

How is painful

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@@Demetrius416 I think he was referring to Eric's cringe inducing ignorance. 😆

@Demetrius416

Жыл бұрын

@@i1337Thinker ok

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@@Demetrius416 Remember it's just my thought. lol I honestly don't know. We will know soon though, when he replies to your question. 👍

@Demetrius416

Жыл бұрын

@@i1337Thinker yeah we will I guess.

Kenneth with "i have a watch too if you want to make the watch maker argument." 🤣🤣 💯👍

I think it's far simpler to challenge this argument by following it to its natural conclusion. If the watchmaker must be designed, then the designer of the watchmaker must also be designed, and then we end up with an infinite row of designers.

@Skylancer727

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's my idea. If we say everything needed a creator, why doesn't the creator need a creator? That's a special pleading fallacy. You can't say everything needs a creator, except this one creator. That means you don't need a creator for everything as there's no creator creator.

@nagranoth_

Жыл бұрын

on top of that, according to theists EVERYTHING is designed. So you're walking there on that beach, of which every f-ing single grain of sand was designed, but somehow the watch is the example because it's complex....

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

@@Skylancer727 Because naturally if EVERYTHING was designed it would mean that not everything was designed. That exception being his speculative ignorance and emotional entitlement. Maybe his creator has a creator and it stops there, but then the script wouldn’t work, and he wouldn’t be able to claim he’s got the authority of an all knowing being on his side.

@barkYdarkATFB

Жыл бұрын

This guy’s natural conclusion is pretty much “duh”.

@totalspoof8344

Жыл бұрын

No thats not possible! Its seems obviously logical but no! Everything has a maker except what i believe in. Can i explain why,no it just is and thats it cause i say so.

"You give me the awful impression, I hate to have say it, of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position ever.“ - Christopher Hitchens

The atom is obviously made of phones and built by beavers.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just watch these for the laughs now. Thiests with age old illogical arguments are the gift that keeps on giving.

@TimLondonGuitarist

Жыл бұрын

Same here, been watching these for 2 years now, the theists just repeat the same old lines, but its still good entertainment.

@danielvanaswegen2312

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha too right, mate!

@newwaveknight1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Changing the watch to an iPhone doesn't mean this stops being the Watchmaker fallacy lol.

@freddyray6805

Жыл бұрын

@@newwaveknight1 Yes, and deceitful tiktok, KZread shorts, Christian preachers know this and keep reformulating these age old arguments to cater to people that are hurting and don't read or study.

@TimLondonGuitarist

Жыл бұрын

@@newwaveknight1Did the blind-watchmaker design Big Ben ?

I asked my 9 year old this question. And he admittedly kept saying “it’s called a beaver dam, so we know it’s designed by beavers”. And I asked, but what if we never saw it before, how would we know it was designed by beavers?” And he responded with “we would see the beavers making it, so know that they made it.” My 9 year old easily figured it out in less than 15 seconds, and this guy just cannot fathom it.

@Go4Noctis

Жыл бұрын

You could also go with chew marks on the wood and beaver tracks.

@vizzini2510

Жыл бұрын

@pezfarm Your child is off to a great start, and it is unlikely that he will ever be taken in by a religious cult. If you start your life by thinking, it is very difficult to backslide into any irrational belief system. That is why all religions strive to "get 'em young."

@VildhjartaFanGurl

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@edboonsucks3218

Жыл бұрын

And this kid would say to you, "So...so....so....so....You're missing the point."

@nocalsteve

Жыл бұрын

What if it’s a God Damn?

America ranks 22nd globally in science, reading & mathematics (PISA 2018), and this call perfectly encapsulates this statistic.

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

I can imagine that it will get worse and worse as the theocracy begins to take over.

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous-md2qp yeah, we can hope Texas and Florida break off to do their own thing soon, at least before they drag the rest of us down with them.

@jeroentump7053

Жыл бұрын

And thats only because of a few smart people. The stupid in that country is next level.

@owersmenbwroten9813

Жыл бұрын

Science? Science points directly to God. GOD DID IT. The proven lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) have NOTHING to do with “science” whatsoever, as NONE of the lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) can be tested, measured or observed (scientific method). All of the lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) go hand-in-hand for the atheist DELUSIONAL explanation of existence. You can’t have 1 atheist lie without the other 2 atheist lies. NONE of which have YOU PERSONALLY EVER SEEN. So you can STOP w/ the “certainty” attitude. ALL your atheist ideas are easily debunked, as I have proved and will continue to prove ad nauseam. We know we are created by a brilliant divine G0D, because his attributes ALONE are the only possible cause/source of what exists - the only DIVINE INTELLIGENCE period -the only possible source to create and design the INTELLIGENT ARRANGEMENT of the co-dependent structures that are found in bodily systems, such as the human digestive system. The digestive system is clearly a high-complexity/high function design to produce a clear purposeful processed outcome. The digestive system (lips, teeth, taste buds, saliva ducts, tongue, epiglottis, throat, stomach, stomach acids, small/large intestine, anus) certainly can't come from MINDLESS NOTHING or a mud puddle. NOTHING in this decaying/dying universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy) is the creator, because all of it is dying and thus, requires an INFINITE SUPERNATURAL CAUSE (GOD) to bring it into existence. Try to learn. GOD DID IT. Simple.

@newwaveknight1

Жыл бұрын

This is what happens when your country decides it should only lead the world in how much money it spends blowing up the Middle East.

We need more science in school.

@hopsta5628

Жыл бұрын

And less home schooling.

@gurgleblaster2282

Жыл бұрын

Science yes, but more important we need to teach philosophy and logic. Because when you just teach science kids just memorize facts. They don't learn skepticism or how to learn. To clarify for pendants: while each school system is different there is a push to simply teach memorization and avoid teaching the scientific method. Science classes in many states simply are limited in what they teach. Particularly in southern states.

@jdsartre9520

Жыл бұрын

we need less go vt in school

@gurgleblaster2282

Жыл бұрын

@@jdsartre9520 are your trying to say government?

@hopsta5628

Жыл бұрын

@@jdsartre9520 Yes, America needs to stop the Christofascists like Ron DeSantis, that disgusting Taylor Greene and pinhead Abbott from Texas from dictating what can be taught to children in schools.

Tomorrow's front page headline: GUY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT MOLECULES ARE KNOWS ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE

I'm British and thoroughly enjoyed this discussion on Adams.

“Nothing much, just hanging out talking about gods and stuff...” I do so love me some Matt Dillahunty.

@persephoneharrison3439

Жыл бұрын

Why did you choose to become an atheist? What made you choose that faith/religion?

@philbreadcrumbs8179

Жыл бұрын

@@persephoneharrison3439 Nobody chooses to become an atheist and atheism not a faith or a religion 👍

@jamieoshea1681

3 ай бұрын

@@persephoneharrison3439are you dishonest on propose, or are you just uneducated?

I always think it is hilarious when Matt gets so frustrated with callers and he tries to bow out of the conversation but after that, the caller says something so stupid he has to address the stupid remark!

@kidslovesatan34

Жыл бұрын

It happens a lot 🤣

@archapmangcmg

Жыл бұрын

The show might as well be called the Trainwreck Experience with how many bad arguments and "not even wrong" arguments get thrown around.

@biopsiesbeanieboos55

Жыл бұрын

He does it a lot. I’m guessing at staff meetings they have had interventions with Matt about this behaviour. You can see he tries so hard to stay out of it, but he just can’t.

Matt could have walked him through "Where is the evidence that a phone is designed? Are there patents? 'Yes' Are there plans drawn up and submitted for patents? 'Yes' Are there plans to follow so it can be assembled? 'Yes' Ok, now where is the EQUAL evidence that an atom was designed and assembled!?!"

@BassByTheBay

Жыл бұрын

It's complex. There, I proved it!

@jannenreuben7398

Жыл бұрын

That'd be way too complex for that caller. The questions needed to be on the level of "what is the sea made of?" or "how many legs does a cat usually have?"

@siyano

Жыл бұрын

@@BassByTheBay lol, but a "design" is not complex if you understand it, its just a reassembly of other material they just work together to make a "better" object like an ancient axe, its just a piece of wood and a some stone that were broken some way, how is that "complex" :D

@BassByTheBay

Жыл бұрын

@@siyano Since you started with "lol", I assume you know my post was teasing the caller, right?

@crimsonwolf1982

Жыл бұрын

@@BassByTheBay We do now but did not with your first reply because you did not observe Poe's law.

I never thought I would hear a "Look at the atoms!" argument in place of "Look at the trees!" Learn something new everyday.

@owersmenbwroten9813

Жыл бұрын

Trees? Atoms? Both are clearly designed, repeated & couldn't have arrived by chance. I look at trees, entropy, FINITE nature & the MINDLESS nonsense of your atheist cult (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) and I clearly see that you have no RATIONAL, POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality, because there isn't one and there never will be.

Perfect example of magic beliefs case magic thinking.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim yes

@cdogthehedgehog6923

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim Yes.

@SPL0869

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim yes

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim no?

@owersmenbwroten9813

Жыл бұрын

Magic? It's atheism that desperately clings to "magic" or the IMPOSIBLE: A MINDLESS, PURPOSELESS moist rock coming from NOTHING & ignoring entropy to produce a first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move & reproduce - NOT TO MENTION the DNA blueprints for 10 million DIFFERENT species that evolution comes OUT OF NOWHERE to diversify into the animals on the earth. Yes, it's atheism that desperately needs "magic." You actually believe that IMPOSSIBLE garbage and you can't afford to get this wrong. 100 trillion yrs from now, you'll still be in hell. Oh btw, the DIVINE POWER of God is mentioned throughout the Bible. TRY TO LEARN.

This is like when a christian asks “What year is it?” then you tell them and they think you just admitted jesus is god. It’s so boneheadedly low-brow that it barely deserves acknowledgment.

@sideboob6851

Жыл бұрын

Tell them the days of the week are named after the Roman gods as are the planets so that must mean they believe in those gods.

@infidelcastro5129

Жыл бұрын

@@sideboob6851 That’s my go-to response. Usually shuts them up 😊

@djb6496

Жыл бұрын

I say, it depends. Right now it is 2565 BE in Thailand.

@marcusreading3783

Жыл бұрын

You think thats bad, I once had someone tell me that I believed in God because the word is in my lexicon.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusreading3783 at that point, you just play purposely stupid. "What's this 'ga ad' you speak of?"

One day I accidentally found a batwing. Right away I knew it was proof of Batman.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

If that's proof of Batman, it's proof of Robin! And Joker! And the Justice League! Save us, Superman! On a serious note, I feel like this is literally the kind of logic a lot of these callers use.

@ajclements4627

Жыл бұрын

TBF, Marvel used a real address for Peter Parker, and by coincidence a family named Parker lived there, so Spider-Man, and the Avengers are real. 😁

"Atoms have components, therefore (my) deity exists and created atoms. Now let's not talk about all the components that exist in nature or my burden of proof."

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

But complexity! Complexity explains and proves everything!

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

What tf is this deity made of then? Are those components detectable? These theists are next level dumb.

I love how they literally told him “I have a watch too if you want to make a watchmaker argument” and this idiot just kept on going as if everyone doesn’t already know what his argument is going to be.

@owersmenbwroten9813

Жыл бұрын

The watchmaker argument is a devastating loss for atheism. Dawkins ignores the fact that atheism has no RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause for creation and yet he starts from that point onward in saying the IRRELEVANT - that natural selection is “unconscious and automatic.” Atheism is easily defeated by pointing out the fact that the only available atheist causes (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) are IMPOSSIBLE, as NONE OF THEM had the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to create/design 10 million DIFFERENT species, the reproducing human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in symmetry and order in the human body - including all these designed systems also observed in millions of DIFFERENT animals. Could you be more lost and clueless?

@TheNomad94

Жыл бұрын

@@owersmenbwroten9813 Be a troll somewhere else.

@owersmenbwroten9813

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNomad94 Troll? Nobody's a bigger troll than you, dear. Actually, I’m gaslighting - probably bottom fishing ;) But we both know only atheists use the “T” word strictly out of cowardice or revenge JUST AFTER I’ve busted their grill - which I’ve been doing on a daily basis for over 5 yrs now on youtube. Every time I SMASH another atheist and their mutt-brained ideas, here comes the name-calling to save face ;) Considering you, I simply know more and am CERTAIN of it. Unlike you, I don't come to these threads in bankruptcy of character, following the path of least resistance w/ guesses and the hope that God doesn't exist. It's IMPOSSIBLE that God doesn't exist and I prove that irrefutable fact w/ every comment, as I continue to prove ;)

God is complex, therefore, god was created.

Eric’s argument is complex, but it’s not designed by intelligence.

Matt's face at 5:42 has me laughing uncontrollably

@Silvertongue8

Жыл бұрын

OK, looking forward to getting to those minutes and that wonderful moment of your journey of giggles 🙏🙏☺️✌️(,, re edit after 5.42,,)yes,, that was glorious, 😂),, thank you,, god bless you, 🤣🤣🤣

@RahulUmaSingh

Жыл бұрын

I had the same reaction 😂😂😂

@bmoshareholderappleshareho855

Жыл бұрын

That was pretty funny, especially his finger movements.

You can see this poor sap was convinced hook, line and sinker, by someone else with this "argument" and he just doesn't have the wit to question it.

Kenneth: "I have a watch on as well, if you wanna make the watchmakers fallacy" R/burn, that was too funny and it went right over the callers script.

I am literally banging my head against the wall a third way into this video 😑😑😑

@lulolie

Жыл бұрын

Fr I paused 7 mins in for a while just trying to process the stupidity

"what's your proof that atoms occur naturally?" The fucking sun

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

XD

Matt! It's the atoms. Look at the trees..... Haven't you heard about Atom & Eve.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

Bath in Atom's glow!

@Scroticus_Maximus

Жыл бұрын

@@denverarnold6210 Eve did, that stuff is sticky!

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@denverarnold6210 how long till I get my ceremonial robes and my hair falls out? I am down with being a ghoul if I can keep my smarts.

"Demonstrate your deity" is the ONLY exchange I ever have with theists. I don't get into the blind watchmaker, biblical prophecy, big bang, Kalam cosmology... I won't get into the weeds with you.

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

The weeds might have nasty creepy bugs in them...

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

I’m the same. I keep repeating the request and steer them back on track every time they deviate.

A god is complicated so it must have been designed by an intelligence.

@christianblevins1870

Жыл бұрын

So true mate so absolutely true I am going to steal this thought

@Paolo8772

Жыл бұрын

You're joking, right?

@vatsmith8759

Жыл бұрын

@@Paolo8772 Not if you believe complicated things must be designed.

@Paolo8772

Жыл бұрын

@@vatsmith8759 I don't. Do you?

@vatsmith8759

Жыл бұрын

@@Paolo8772 The use of lower case 'g' in god might give you a clue as to where I stand.

If someone designed Atoms he made a poor job of it... some Atoms are reeeaaallly unstable and will kill humans...lol

@nagranoth_

Жыл бұрын

how do you know they're not supposed to? ;-)

@AdmiralBison

Жыл бұрын

@@nagranoth_ goes to show, they were not designed with humans in mind...thus not "fine tuned" as per a popular Creationist argument. However he is right, outside of the "Octect rule" in Chemistry, atoms can be unstable with half lifes, radicals and all manner disruptive forces.

* weeps * ..... stop questioning my questions !!!

Atoms are born from the Atom's family.

This guy brought a wet sponge to a light sabre fight...

@empressoftheknownuniverse

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Fantastic! 😄😄😄

"the reason I am saying this..." Indoctrination from birth, poor boy

Epic fail beginning with the callers first sentence 😅

I can go to a cellphone factory and watch a cellphone being put together... You can even track down where the raw materials come from and how they were gathered... - Where can I find an atom factory?

“Atoms are created by my personal god.” How? “You’re missing the point” I’m asking you to demonstrate your claim, rather than just claiming it through your admitted ignorance, via a script you’ve remembered that you can’t back up. “Well so evolution…” He couldn’t even withstand 2 questions, while claiming absolute knowledge, and had to go right back to a rehearsed line.

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim Don't be rude.

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim Apologize.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim that was a synopsis, at most.

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

@@i1337Thinker It’s okay. Hurt people hurt people and that….

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

@@denverarnold6210 It was too much reading for them I guess.

Proving a creator exists doesn't mean a god exists, it means a creator exists. You have to prove the creator is in fact a god and it's the god of your particular belief system.

@cyrus3316

Жыл бұрын

That is actually a good point....this creator could be just an advanced life form ( aliens or space humans or time traveler or whatever) why is it have to be something fictional and doesn't have any proof of it 😂

Before the video started, I'm already like, "Ah, yes... the watchmaker argument..." lol It's bad when I know what point they are going to make before they start talking.

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

It’s because they don’t have any good evidence. They all use the same old tired fallacies that their relatives have used for centuries.

The argument of complexity is regressive. It’s inevitable, ultimate end is that there had to be a more complex thing or being to create God.

@Skylancer727

Жыл бұрын

And if there doesn't have to be, then it breaks the rule that everything needs to be created by someone leading back to the question, then why did the universe need that god if that god didn't need a creator.

@AC-zx4hd

Жыл бұрын

@@Skylancer727 Now that’s heavy! I’m going to be trying to assemble all that together my mind all day now. Thanks! 🤔 Have a great day.

@eh9618

Жыл бұрын

Or the god needs to be created. And whatever made god also need to he created

@FrikInCasualMode

Жыл бұрын

It's gods all the way down!

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@bob 🤨

In college I read the less educated a person is, the more religious they are. That's called a direct correlation. God made correlations. 🙃

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

That is why religion is so rife amongst older people. They left school at a young age and had very little access to information. Religion is slowly going away, there are even atheists in countries like Saudi Arabia because of access to information. In 100 years things will look very different.

@gurgleblaster2282

Жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous-md2qp there are a lot of studies done on population growth and religious adoption. While non religious is growing that group includes "spiritualism". Atheism has more or less flat lined. Islam is growing at a rapid clip along with the population of Islamic nations. It is projected that the global religious population will actually increase over the next 50 years.

@guytheincognito4186

Жыл бұрын

@@gurgleblaster2282 What are you smoking? Flat lined? Not even close. It's a stable increase alongside spiritualist and other such alternatives and many times those cross with atheism aswell as any spiritualist that don't posit a deity is still atheist per definition. Furthermore I can link you a video listing the 25 most atheist countries in the world, and the non-belief in dieties based on modern data shows 45 to 60%+ atheist and with the top 5 or 6 countries ranging between 78 to 90% atheist. And the same data shows that religious growth is declining rapidly, including in the US and that the future is predicted to have a opposit development of what you concluded. In fact Christianity and Islam all together only make up around 32% of global religions. In the US Christianity has dropped from 85%+ to around 64% with an unprecedented rate of decline than originally predicted. The whole things on life support and the evangelical uprising etc in current day US is merely the Death throws.

@gurgleblaster2282

Жыл бұрын

@@guytheincognito4186 I guess that just shows how much things change its been a while since I last looked into this. I guess that's good news. 👍

@guytheincognito4186

Жыл бұрын

@@gurgleblaster2282 It's definitely a good thing. And yeah news can change quickly and isn't always present with complete accuracy. In terms of atheism It's easy to think that the rate may have slowed or flat lined when trying to measure the amount of people who believes in a god vs no god, when atheists blend in so much with multiple other spiritual or quantum mystical beliefs since atheism is just a mere facet of one's world view. Especially when trying to decern how many believes a certain thing and atheist only have the one thing in common and doesn't have any problems believing more than one thing. 👍

Hello from Australia I really appreciate and enjoy your show sometime I can not help but watch your show thinking it's a comedy show when this religious people put their cases to you

@John.0z

Жыл бұрын

Hi H L. I am also an Australian, but I did live in the USA from some years. It is not much fun when you meet people like this. Their understanding is poor, yet their *feeling* of superior understanding is immensely high. Working with them is a nightmare. You have to tiptoe around the most trivial things. As this call showed, they just will not accept anything but what their church has poured into their ears.

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 When a Christian gets embarrassed because they are a grown adult with a completely imaginary friend, they do what they do best - deflect! Stay on topic! No one here is talking about gender dysphoria.

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 You’re deflecting again. It’s a call in show for theists who think they have an imaginary friend. You’re going off topic. What are we going to talk about next? Is a super charger or turbo charger better for my car? Stay on topic.

@lynettekomidar2819

Жыл бұрын

I'm in Australia too

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 so you worship the God of lies and misdirection?

I liked K’s analogy of a dam and clump of sticks. I think people just get stuck on fact that complex things can’t be made naturally but also forget that many simple things evolved over a very long period into the complex things we see every day

Its adorable that callers think they are dropping real deep knowledge 😂😂

I've been watching this channel for years. I am continually amazed at the amount of patience Matt and his guests have. The complexity argument has been beat to death on this channel. How Matt and Ken manage to maintain composure with this caller absolutely astounds me. As soon as he said iPhone was designed I knew where it was going. I actually think Matt was hoping, hoping that someone might have new information. Sorry you were disappointed.

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 ah, another theist who's beliefs fill him with the need to insult and mock. You a Christian? Where does Jesus talk about making fun of others?

@fredbohm4728

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 A computer is not brilliant and theists have no wisdom. Atheists only mock those that make extraordinary claims with no supporting evidence.

@ajclements4627

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 Intelligent theists? Not in these threads.

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 do you think that is a political statement? What does it have to do with you insulting people?

@ajclements4627

Жыл бұрын

@@carlhobson4083 Thanks for confirming my comment.

That was painful.

The caller knows less about atoms than a middle school science student...

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

Hey, middle school can be hard for some people! Seems like most are from the South.......

@ajclements4627

Жыл бұрын

@@freakyzed8467 I live in the south, indoor plumbing still freaks some of them out.

As a mechanical design engineer with a dozen patents or so, I love the watchmaker arguement. My reply, is that I keep fish and a turtle. As a custodian, I put my skills to use to create as good an environment for them as I can. Why cant your god that could not define PI not do that for us.

@tylercampbell6365

Жыл бұрын

He did.. Everything you need to survive was already here..Man jacked it up..How can you even make that comparison..I would even argue that as a design engineer nothing you create is an original thought..If it's possible it was possible before you..

@chuckh9168

Жыл бұрын

@@tylercampbell6365 what a ridiculous statement. The vast majority of the universe is instant-death levels of inhospitable to life. Much of earth is the same, for that matter. Something that “could have” been thought up before but wasn’t…. Simply wasn’t. And is therefore - wait for it - original. Or maybe it was thought of but couldn’t be put into practice for any number of reasons. If there is a “designer”, he/she/they are the worst designers ever existent for how unintelligently it was all thrown together.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

@@chuckh9168 and that's not even getting into the horrible design of our, or any animal's, body.

@aoiix5563

Жыл бұрын

@@tylercampbell6365 so, if you were to make a goldfish pond, would you add eels or sharks just because you added a shelter as well? Please never design ponds

@morbidmanmusic

Жыл бұрын

...or so? Nope, you'd know how many you have. I don't believe you.

Differing degrees of complexity is just a simple (and necessary) result of variation.

@AdmiralBison

Жыл бұрын

It's also subjective with respect to perception. Systems maybe fairly simple and make sense to some, while it can be difficult and complex to others...especially those who do not specialize in said system. E.g. Geologists know and understand land formations, plates, interactions types of rocks etc...what, why, when, and how they come about, where as to laymen as myself it all looks just like rocks and dirt. It doesn't give me reason nor the expertise to assert as to 'Who' made them come about.

amazing how many people don't understand the very concept of "emergent complexity"!

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

Or that they don’t have the answer to the most important question in the world, that hasn’t been answered by the accumulated knowledge of the world.

@shadowshedinja6124

Жыл бұрын

Almost as if complicated things are made from less complex components.

@JamesJones-pm7tb

Жыл бұрын

You "magic?" Because there's no such thing as "emergent complexity."

@emoryogglethorp8180

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesJones-pm7tb simple rules and initial conditions creating greater complexity is literally how everything in the universe works, just look up fractals, as the most direct version of this concept it should be easy even for you to understand.

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesJones-pm7tb You should look up the term first.

An indoctrinated stoner found his book of physics from school and thought it would be a great idea to call Atheist Experience.

If anyone still thinks that the watchmaker analogy is convincing, please look up the naturally formed nuclear reactor.

@amtlpaul

Жыл бұрын

You mean the Sun?

@AlexPBenton

Жыл бұрын

@@amtlpaul No, it’s in Africa I believe

It’s the same argument as,”prove god or Bigfoot DOESN’T exist.”

5:07 Matt's expressions here is Everything :D

When your mind is as simple as Eric's is, everything is magic.

"would you say your phone came out of nowhere?" No, but I know humans exist, and I know humans are capable of designing and building things. Meanwhile I haven't seen anything to suggest a God exists, or that that God would be capable of designing and building things even if he/she/it/they did.

@cypherpunk12

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

Some people's minds are so hopelessly stuck and think it's us who are not getting the point. So they just move on to the next point in the script.

As soon as Kenneth said "I've got a watch too if you want to make a watchmaker argument" that should have shut him up.

If you can't understand or have enough knowledge of basic scientific principles, then how does one think that they can address or try to "disprove" more complex scientific principles? The arrogance and over estimation in their own cognitive abilities and understanding of these types of people is staggering!!

@nagranoth_

Жыл бұрын

it's exactly because they don't understand what they're talking about that they also don't understand they're talking nonsense.

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

Because the education system has been ruined by an apathetic citizenry that are proud as long as they get their way.

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

@@nagranoth_ They remember scripts to seem smart but don’t actually care if what they say is true. Hence “the molecule is the smallest atom” is repeated without thought, and if that was mentioned he’d say “well one atheist said…” thinking that’ll completely destroy the entirety of science. It’s personal to him.

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@bob 🤨

@marcusreading3783

Жыл бұрын

@bob It doesnt. Its the religious who keep trying to force science to fit their religion.

By this guys argument, a smartphone wouldn't be designed, just the smallest components like transistors, then they would self-assemble by natural processes.

If that caller was any dimmer he'd need watering. Truly scary.

If complexity requires a creator then our creator must be super complex there for...

@eh9618

Жыл бұрын

Turtles all the way down

@oldmanaz.6811

Жыл бұрын

It is the problem they hand wave away with flimsy answers, with no bases.

At school, in my First chemistry lesson, in the first 15 minutes, we were taught the difference between atoms, ions and molecules....... it is So frustrating he doesn't even get this, but thinks he knows how it all works. Seriously one of the worst cases of Dunning Krueger in long time........ sigh. Small addition, Matt calls Hydrogen an atom. Which is fine. But in nature under normal circumstances, Hydrogen gas is always an H2 molecule. Anyways, small detail.

@lubrew5862

Жыл бұрын

Matt is correct in what he stated. But hey you got to humble brag about something you remembered from chemistry class. And next time don’t use ‘normal circumstances’ unless you define the circumstances. It should have been simply hydrogen is most commonly found as H2.

@lulolie

Жыл бұрын

@James Hodson they did understand the comment, they were just saying their statement at the end was pedantic

@lubrew5862

Жыл бұрын

@James Hodson I understood the original comment and commented back addressing it directly. I get it maybe you don’t understand the irony of people bragging about their attention to detail but not being correct in their own details, but I do. I hope you throwing out the childish insult towards made you feel better about yourself.

@lubrew5862

Жыл бұрын

@James Hodson The original poster was bragging about how they essentially learned about molecular hydrogen early in their science class and that Matt didn’t reference molecular hydrogen even though it is far more common than atomic hydrogen. That was the brag by the original poster, they knew something they viewed as basic and Matt didn’t know to reference it. In my opinion the distinction between atomic molecular hydrogen was not needed for Matt to be correct. And that I found the irony of the original poster not being detailed with their post about Matt not being detailed enough to be a bit amusing.

@lubrew5862

Жыл бұрын

@James Hodson Maybe you are confusing this with another conversation you are having, referencing other I don’t see involved. Not sure who Humpy is and don’t see them on the thread. So have a good day.

Ah, the humility on display here on Eric's part is truly inspiring 😂

@persephoneharrison3439

Жыл бұрын

When it comes to atheists engaging the question of God (that is, his existence, his providential love, his judgment, and his narrative for our lives from their beginnings to eternity), I have wondered why there is often so much anger? If there is no God, all faith is falsehood, and eternity is simply a covered hole in the ground, then why should the atheist care so much to prove it? Why do some insist on erecting elaborate arguments and systems of thought around some truth if there is no source of truth? Why obsess about it?

@AarenJable

Жыл бұрын

@@persephoneharrison3439 Because we care about whether or not beliefs are true, and that is because beliefs inform actions.

This call harks back to the sort of thing that was talked about on the show years ago, at great length with the same results. I'm glad to see Matt and Ken manage to explain it so well without losing patience. Chances are I'd have given up long ago bothering to repeat the same arguments if i had to do it on a weekly or daily basis. I guess there is always a chance that someone will present some evidence, maybe that is what keeps them going. Kudos Matt and Kenneth :)

Well you have to wonder if this god could actually produce a smart phone by hocus pocus alone.

@acetrades1524

Жыл бұрын

And could he make a battery that lasts a month?

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

@@acetrades1524 a month? This is god! The batter should last, at least, until the heat death of the universe.

@acetrades1524

Жыл бұрын

@@denverarnold6210 lol, now your talking. I'm used to the weak sauce Christian God, who seems more like a temp hire on a Friday afternoon before a holiday.

Multiple people designed each smartphone therefore multiple gods must have made the universe according to that logic. Monotheists always seem to very conveniently reach the conclusion that one specific male god exists.

@jaflenbond7854

Жыл бұрын

Theists don't KNOW and understand that Atheists are worthless and useless human beings who don't worship any God or Gods of religions. Atheists don't KNOW and understand that Theists are worthless and useless human beings who are nothing but foolish worshippers of a worthless, foolish, and useless God, Satan the Devil, the enemy of the God of the Christ. Both Atheists and Theists just think and believe that they are powerful, great, glorious, intelligent, and superior human beings but don't KNOW and understand that they are nothing but foolish, worthless and useless human beings who will just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.

This poor caller thinks if he throws out enough words, they'll magically assemble themselves into a coherent argument. An argument against things magically assembling themselves.

@persephoneharrison3439

Жыл бұрын

As an atheist it is permissible for you to argue from ignorance.

@archapmangcmg

Жыл бұрын

@@persephoneharrison3439 As a theist, it is expected for you to appeal to your own ignorance. God of the Gaps is a theist problem.

@persephoneharrison3439

Жыл бұрын

@@archapmangcmg I am always skeptical when you people use a lack of understanding (i.e. ignorance) to make a claim about reality. It really brings up questions about your sanity. I’m suspicious whenever atheists use blind faith and say, “Well, you cannot prove it is not true!”

@archapmangcmg

Жыл бұрын

@@persephoneharrison3439 Stop projecting your own failings. It's the religious telling us we can't prove you wrong. It's the religious saying "How do you explain this or that about reality? Must be GOD!" 1. We usually can prove your religions wrong in various things. 2. You can't ever prove your god is real and THAT is your problem. You don't have any reason to believe in any gods. Nor do we. But we do the sensible thing, the reasonable thing. We don't believe without reason. But hey, thanks for adding to the interactions and helping the channel. Even when you lie for Jesus (or whoever), you only hurt your cause.

@persephoneharrison3439

Жыл бұрын

@@archapmangcmg You’re so angry with GOD. I thought your atheist religion teaches you there is no god.

Even if you believe in a designer for things... it is quite a leap to believe that only ONE designer designed ALL things.

The sad thing here is there are people in Eric's life that actually buy his bullshit logic & stunning lack of reasoning. Omg 🤦‍♂️

@stevewhite6861

Жыл бұрын

I really think it is a dumb priest who has destroyed his brain with this bullshit, he isn't capable of thinking for himself.

@violentvioletvengeance5616

Жыл бұрын

I CURE ATHEISM IN 15 MINUTES OR LESS!!!!!

@stevewhite6861

Жыл бұрын

@@violentvioletvengeance5616 Bullshit.

@i1337Thinker

Жыл бұрын

@@stevewhite6861 These trolls tryn' so hard to get a rise out of us. 😆

@stevewhite6861

Жыл бұрын

@@i1337Thinker yes they do and sometimes to my eternal shame I bite.

Yeeeeeess this was my favorite call. Before this call I had heard many "Intelligent Design" arguments but I think I got a good grasp on why Eric's logic is flawed.

OMG 🤦🏻‍♂️. Religious people should be so embarrassed by their arguments. He has no idea what an atom is.

@Anonymous-md2qp

Жыл бұрын

I guess it wasn’t covered in his homeschool classes 😂

@watchandjewelryloft4713

Жыл бұрын

They have a huge problem with word meaning. As if dictionaries don't exist. Proof. Evidence Demonstrate Design Natural Existence Non-existent True False

So according to the caller, a stick with one end that is sharp, could not have been created/designed by a human being because unlike the smartphone (a tool that people use for communication), which is complex, the spear (a tool people used for hunting and/or combat), is not complex. Instead, it is a thing of simplicity.

Nothing would go over my head, I would catch it

The caller DEFINITELY failed basic high school chemistry...... The mtf doesn't even know the difference between atoms and molecules 🤦‍♂️

@Paolo8772

Жыл бұрын

I failed grade 10 Chemistry TWICE and even I know the difference between a molecule and an atom!

I weep for the state of our educatoinal system. Please stop hamstringing our teachers. There should never be an adult walking around this utterly stupid.

@jdsartre9520

Жыл бұрын

"educatoinal system" That's what you get when guvt mafia runs it--they don't have to be accountable at all. Weird all the similarities between prisons and schools.

The beaver analogy..."zoom" right over his head ...🤣 Unreal 😂

You could the gears grinding but the wheels just weren’t turning

How do these people successfully buy groceries to survive?

@freakyzed8467

Жыл бұрын

The USA has gone out of its way to cater to these pigs. When you have been on top for as long as we have it's easy to fall forward.

@kissit012

Жыл бұрын

Smarter people simplified the process so as many stupid people as possible can survive to be worked to death

lmao @ 9:20. Thank you for the laugh Matt.

i hate when creationists think they have some unheard of argument but in reality it’s the most cliche argument and they spend 20 minutes setting it up.

As a bachelor degree holder in chemist, I was losing my shit with this caller. Virtual particles which come together to form the various elements of the atom aren't a single combination. Quantum physics is interesting, but wildly crazy. And if some form of design was involved, the creator has got to be very insane. And nothing proves that more than comparing the microatomic universe to the macroatomic universe and how differently they behave.

Theists, gotta tell ya, so far, your PR department sucks.

Would have been interesting to have asked him if he was a sun worshipper as we know atoms are made in stars, so it would follow the 'thinking agent' was the sun. Of course I doubt that would be the case and it does risk just confusing things, but I do wonder how he would have responded, an question/concept out of left field may have broken his focus on his singular narrative.

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

Great point.

@ShadowPoet

Жыл бұрын

That would be a tricky use of the word make or create as stars essential fuse together the nuclei of light atoms with protons/neutrons resulting in heavier atoms. They don't really "make" them rather, heavier atoms are a result of nucleosynthesis within stars from lighter atoms.

@DontRespectTheUS

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowPoet The answer to that is always: Yea but WHO made it do that?

@davidkettle9664

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowPoet yeah, I guess we should rename the watchmaker analogy to the watch-assembler analogy, after all, they don't make watches, they just move around the already existing atoms.

@davidkettle9664

Жыл бұрын

@@DontRespectTheUS Gravity 🤣 and Matt pointing out that asking "who" is smuggling in personhood.

You are off to a bad start when the only "smart" phone you think of is an Apple. Thinking requires a wider appreciation of reality.

@denverarnold6210

Жыл бұрын

Hell, even Windows and Google have smart phones. Apple was just the first one better than a blackberry.

🤣”Oh for fuck’s sake!” My sentiments exactly! Holy shit!

Matt& Ken, there is just so much missing from this caller’s basic knowledge and understanding that simply asking him for any rational explanation quickly becomes patently ridiculous. Like so many of our fellow citizens, their limit to critical thinking does not come from any higher learning or analysis. Rather it stems from the classes they attended every Sunday morning. And now they are here to show you just how much they know. If we could find a way to open a closed mind, a lot of good might be accomplished.

@Paolo8772

Жыл бұрын

I'm not even sure he went to church but he is certainly lacking in the most basic chemistry education. That's saying a lot coming from me, form whom my lowest level of education is chemistry. I took took 10th grade chemistry TWICE (that's right; I only have a 9th grade chemistry education) and even I was getting frustrated with this caller who doesn't even know the difference between an atom and a molecule.

@ssjcosty

Жыл бұрын

I think in these cases the best strategy from the hosts would be to take more of an educational approach rather than a confrontational one, and let the caller go if it seems they weren't paying attention or didn't get it.

@oldedwardian1778

Жыл бұрын

@@ssjcosty You make a good point but many of these people can’t even contemplate that they do in fact KNOW NOTHING. You have to get to them to that level FIRST before you try to sow the seeds of KNOWLEDGE AND TRUTH AND COMMON SENSE.

Because their Pastor has spoon fed them from childhood they can actually live in this weird world . The fact that all this comes from a book that tells them that a god exists and they believe it is quite odd

I just thought of this: theists often say smartphone is complex, therefore it required constructor. But smartphone required many many constructors, and constructors who made machines that are constructing smartphones, and designers, and computer specialists, and so on.. So why would they think it required only one constructor to make such a super complex, fine tuned Universe?

This dude is rambling about topics he's completely ignorant of (basic science) hoping to codify a coherent answer through shear osmosis.

People really overthink this. There is no evidence of God. It will just behoove believers to just say they believe and admit there is no proof. There's nothing wrong with saying I believe in something I was taught and will continue to search not for design, but for proof of God.

“So basically……” .. theists have no clue. Why do theists always start with asking questions. Why not give the evidence at the beginning? How hard can it be….

@_Omega_Weapon

Жыл бұрын

It's impossible, because they're wrong

This guys brain doesn’t know what his mouth is saying and his ears can’t comprehend what they are hearing from his mouth

You guys got me laughing so hard with the thumbnails. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍