Episode #51 | SPECIAL GUEST | Dutch Mantell Interviews Damien Sandow aka Aron "The Idol" Stevens
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Episode #49 | SPECIAL GUEST | Dutch Mantell Interviews Damien Sandow aka Aron "The Idol" Stevens
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"Dirty" Dutch Mantell is hosting a very special guest this week. A man he holds in very high regard. Former WWE Money in the Bank briefcase holder, Damien Sandow. Now known in NWA as Aron "The Idol" Stevens, he and Dutch take some time to catch up and discuss, among many other things; the importance of respecting senior talent as a young up and coming superstar, the chaos of working in Puerto Rico, OVW, Jim Cornette and Paul Heyman, Billy Corgan and the NWA, tagging with Cody Rhodes, developing The Miz-stunt double character on the fly, Kenny Bolin's entrepreneurial ways, never politicking with Vince McMahon, Victor Jovica impressions, developing the "Intellectual Saviour" character,a tribute to Josephus AKA The Question Mark and, of course, the stories about the people that have influenced their careers over the years.
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Legendary wrestler, manager, commentator, producer and booker ”Dirty” Dutch Mantell (WWE's Zeb Colter) brings his definitive takes on the latest news in the professional wrestling business as well as the most entertaining stories from years gone by to the podcast airwaves.
The Dirty Dutchman from Oil Trough, Texas has worked almost every single major promotion and wrestling territory in the United States over an illustrious 50 year career, including WWE, WWF, WCW, NWA, SMW, TNA, USWA, UWF, OVW, Impact, Georgia, Tennessee, Knoxville, Kansas City, St Louis, Florida, Memphis, Houston, Detroit, Mid-South, Kentucky, Mid-Atlantic, Dallas and even more - and that’s not counting Puerto Rico and Japan!
Every week, Dutch Mantell will give you his hot takes on the latest news, re-live some of the most memorable shows and events through history, bring you along on a virtual road trip to explain the nuances of the wrestling business, tell classic stories from throughout the decades and answer YOUR questions every week. There may even be a guest or two coming up in the future, so make sure you subscribe and never miss an episode of Story Time with Dutch Mantell!
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Chapters;
00:00 - Intro
02:40 - Backlash in Peurto Rico
19:25 - "Jungle Boy" Jack Perry at Manchester Wrestling Convention
30:55 - Road Agents
35:21 - Kenny Bolin
44:47 - OVW Agents
49:53 - Billy Corgan
51:26 - Jocephus aka ?
01:02:37 - Cody Rhodes
01:05:51 - Damien Sandow Character
01:09:42 - Imitations
01:16:01 - Vince McMahon
01:21:56 - Victor Jovica
01:31:47 - Puerto Rico Time
01:36:57 - NWA
01:39:17 - Lanny Poffo
01:41:30 - Paul Heyman in OVW
01:45:52 - Outro
Пікірлер: 152
WWE really squandered on this guy he was over like Rover
@andrewspencer-foster9504
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@saj8
Жыл бұрын
Stop.
@CinemaMack
Жыл бұрын
Especially after that promo that really humanized him.
@OmegaRedFan
Жыл бұрын
Shut up
Spending time with Dutch on my birthday
WWE blew it with Sandow. He was my favorite when he was in the WWE. He's such an great talent. Thanks for having him on!
@saj8
Жыл бұрын
He was exposed as mediocre in TNA.
@teambigv
Жыл бұрын
@@saj8 maybe it was TNA was just mediocre. Him and the Miz drew me back into wrestling in the 2010's after not watching for a decade. He was great as Sandow and Mizdow. There was much more he could've done there. But like WWE usually does they bury and misuse talent like Chad Gable,Dolph Ziggler, Shelton Benjamin, Claudio,Cody Rhodes back in the day, Bray Wyatt etc etc.
@saj8
Жыл бұрын
@@teambigv As does TNA.
@OmegaRedFan
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to buy a T-shirt mark
@teambigv
Жыл бұрын
@@OmegaRedFan you're so cool shithead
Wow Dutch getting all the W interviews lately. I hope they talk to Mr Kennedy at one point or maybe Carlito.
He ain't lying when he says NWA pre covid was amazing.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
Жыл бұрын
It sure was. Hell of a roster with Nick Aldis, Eddie Kingston & Homicide, Tim Storm, Trevor Murdoch, Aron Stevens, Question Mark. And Eli Drake who is now one of the most over guys in pro wrestling.
@ghost_tom_joad8530
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSpeed-lt8gr Not to mention Corny on commentary. Like him or not he's good at what he does.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
Жыл бұрын
@@ghost_tom_joad8530 yes I loved him on color commentary. Such a wrestling genius and wrestling historian.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
Жыл бұрын
@@ghost_tom_joad8530 and Dokken’s Into The Fire was the perfect opening song to the show.
@ghost_tom_joad8530
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSpeed-lt8gr It really was. I wonder if the old episodes are on YT.
Sandow was a gem and should have been World Champion!!! Love this podcast!
Every Aron Stevens interview I see, he just seems like one of the nicest, down to earth wrestlers. As one other commenter said (probably numerous, actually), WWE really blew it with this guy. Sure, he's not the first they mishandled as I'm sure a lot of us can name 10 or more, but he's in the top list for me. Everything WWE threw at him, even if it was junk at first, he made it work.
@teambigv
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
Yessssss!!!! Great story telling with the 2nd side follow up after Bolin!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Incredible interview.
@scottdavenport1833
Жыл бұрын
He needs to be back
@OmegaRedFan
Жыл бұрын
Someone ask Damien about the broken Matt Hardy segment. That's the best TNA character change
I LOVED Damien Sandow, what a talent! And I discovered later that he is from a country next to mine, which made me like him even more! Especially that I intend to enter the wrestling business too :)
Such great episodes lately from dutch and his team ...I appreciate them thanks!
His work with the Question Mark was pure genius.
@OmegaRedFan
Жыл бұрын
Road Dogg: OH, you didn't know? Damien Sandow: It's apparent in my eyes that you know nothing, I'm sure.
@DeadKoby
9 ай бұрын
Sensei Question was the reason that Aron has continued to work with Wrestling. Aron stated that he was DONE with wrestling, and had started acting on TV. NWA called, and he figured he'd just give it a chance. His friendship with Joseph "Question Mark" Hudson was cited as the reason he's still at it now. The fans LOVED Sensei Question, and let Aron really be the bad guy. So much fun.
This guy did HHH's elite snob gimmick better than him w/o valets or a stable politicking for him. Then he got buried and got over with that gimmick too. Why they wasted his talent is beyond me.
Thanks a lot guys, I didn’t get any sleep today , because I saw you upload this great episode. guys keep up the good work
17:00 - Dutch is mixing two characters here. Mr. Peanut (Planters) has always had a monocle. Mr. Pennybags (Monopoly) has never had a monocle. Due to the top hat, many people have associated one character's traits with the other, and so there's a strong belief that both characters have always had a monocle.
I loved his run with the question mark in nwa
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
Жыл бұрын
Yes I loved that so much. I was so sad when Question Mark passed away. ? totally got over as well.
What a great show. I could listen to Dutch and Sandow for hours
Stadow and Dutch together is like water and ice. They are two peas in a pod. What a great episode. Maybe one of the best episodes ever on here.
James... you're doing AMAZING work. Thankyou
This guest is the best interview I have heard. Thanks
What you need to understand is in Kentucky. Funerals are like community get together‘s. The politicians even go to them to get votes because the communities come to them.
Aron seems like a really nice and interesting guy. I hope you do have him back on again. I could have listened to a lot more of this.
Thanks for this great interview with Aron Stevens. I've been waiting for Dutch to talk about Joseph Hudson and seeing him do it with Aron is something special. The pre-covid days of NWA were so magical, and the talents of Joseph and Aron was a huge part of that. Dutch, I hope in time you can talk more about mentoring Joseph and his early days in wrestling. I ran across some videos of you guys wrestling at the Stadium Inn and would love to hear more about those days.
Team hell no and the mizdow stuff was the funniest wrestling thing over the past 20 years! Thank you Aaron
This guy is great. Awesome attitude.
What a great interview! I really enjoyed it and love Aron Stevens. He is the main reason I keep following NWA these days.
Thank you, Sandow...
We had the starmaker 🥱, now we've had THE STAR! 😎👏👏👏👏👏
Aron is still contributing great things to the NWA as the manager of the Tag Champs!
Such a underrated talent , absolutely enjoyed his run with Cody and of course as MiZ stunt double
@1:18:40 I completely agree that WWE missed a huge opportunity with Damian. Every character was great and the man has charisma oozing out of him, and the crowds loved him.
Love this episode. Thank you guys.
Top of the day to everyone!
he was totally right about wwe not utilizing the damien sandow character to its full
Sandow and Jack swagger are theeeeee biggest missed superstars in wrestling entertainment history... Facts
Damian has improved leaps and bounds in the ring, but i’ve always been drawn to his speaking. He’s a great storyteller and i’m always intrigued to what he has to say
I really like Aron (Damien) says about talent. In a way like what Bruce likes to say about putting on a new coat of paint
I really enjoyed this episode!
1:06:04 ~ i loved mizdow also. that time they did the YMCA. 😂🤣
So cool they mentioned Trinidad, my birth country! Victor Jovica is well known there to the wrestling fans.
I watch Aron on NWA. Good company. Great old fashioned wrestling.
The best intro! Bravo!
Makes sense Aaron pinched a smidge of shtick from Bolin. Both are very entertaining 😂
Aron Stevens to Collision 🙏🏻
Best episode yet!
More Damien Sandow please!!
Great great great great great great great guest
I'm enjoying all the special guest shows. It's always interesting to know what the guest's point of view is on the wrestling news segment
Wow great show.
Good interview, it's the first one I've sat completely though. Aron is a talented wrestler, and great on the mic Yes WWE missed a great opportunity, because Aron's got everything you need in a wrestler, he can wrestle, great on the mic, he's got the look that most promotions look for A great arrogant and funny heel. 👍
Do ya'll have any links to footage from the Puerto Rico time Dutch and Damien were talking about
Even with editing it's clear Dutch is reading and responding to cues about Sandows WWE career and his "memories" of it lol
I want one of those t-shirts but I'd probably get the crap kicked out of me if I wore it around where I live. Good t-shirt but people might get the wrong idea if they don't know where the saying comes from!
Damien has a Lebanese descent
@teambigv
Жыл бұрын
Yea I thought I read that somewhere. He's a great talent and seems down to earth
Dutch was talking about the Monopoly Man not Mr Peanut 🥜with the Mendella Effect and monocle 🧐
The intellectual savior of the masses
Dont be shy to promote the books. Take some time with it
Great Show!
The Damien Sandow character was SO good, and I mean the origjnal character, not the stunt double. Had they pushed him, that character could have easily been a top heel.
It was nice of Aron to invite Dutch over to NWA, but I totally don't see Dutch kissing Billy Corgan's ass one bit lol.
25:53 - this clip should go viral.
NWA is the only wrestling I watch these days. WWE and AEW is more like a dance
Gavin says : Dutch and his friend make wwe look like Sunday School!!
I liked him alot too
the friendly neighborhood "guy," lol
Savio Vega was always a favourite back in the 90’s. His war against Stone Cold was epic and i could of watched it go on forever. Damian being on here is a joy to listen to and just like everyone else i too have to say WWE wasted what they had
Sandow had everything to be a huge star. That's wwe for ya!
"autograph signing at a funeral".... even Bert Prentice wasn't that skeezy.
I love watching those old wrestling videos where you did not have a gigantic isle to dance and pose in. Where fans everywhere could reach out and grab you. Looked like those crowds would have wanted to murder heels. Imagine some heel trying to do a pose within arms reach of one of those crowds.
The WWE really dropped the ball with Sandow.
Funny Bastard Right There!
Try Fable Beard to sponsor they are in Tennessee and the best products by far
He should start his own company with mustache oil
Jovica wrestled flair in Trinidad in the 80s
I agree with that social media thing Stevens said
Lol interrogate Aaron dutch, I'm out! Then seconds later 11 lol!
Despite how WWE treated Sandow, his gimmicks was really entertaining.
Dutch never asked if the Kenny Bolin story about CM Punk throwing his briefcase down the bowling alley was true
@StarMakerBolin
Жыл бұрын
100% true. countless witnesses, including Aaron
It's sadly true that Bolin and Cornette are people who are easy to hate, even if you want to like them. I got the impression more or less first handed. Bakc then I watched a wrestling related youtuber, I was also in contact with by twitter (as "X" was called back then) and e-mail. And it's already difficult for someone who has not really a name in the wrestling industry and is not a sports journalist, to get known wrestlers or wrestling promoters on your show. But he managed to get Cornette AND Bolin for an Interview. And it was a great interview. Every seemed to have a good time they could advertise stuff they sold, which especialy Bolin did. And it looked liked they might come back to do some more episodes together. But then out of the blue Bolin and Cornette started to talk bad about that youtuber. Cornette said stuff that wasn't even true, like that youtuber lifes in his mothers house, in the basement, while the truth was that the guy had a house, wife and kids. I wrote him an e-mail asking why Cornette and Bolin started to talk BS about him if it is a work or something. He replied that he has no clue, but takes that as advertisement for his channel, but other than that he thought it was not cool. But at least it got him some subs and views, and everyone who jumped over because of that bad mouthing could find out in an instant that Cornette's and Bolin's stories about that guy are not true. IDK if it was intended to be a work, but I say even if so, it was not funny as it came without any obvious reason.
A great talent, lost in the cycle of crap that the WWE pushes
During a Wrestlemania this guy was in public .. giving homeless people money !!! Stand up guy
He should have cashed in successfully
Jungle Boy is a C list celebrities kid.
Always liked Stevens...I thought he could've been used alot more in WWE
That's why I thought tay didn't stop the match because where it
For context: these guys experiences with Puerto Rico is like doing shows in the most dangerous areas hoods of the US; simple as that.... so for everyone is Puerto Rico is NOT as crazy as they portray us
He should have beaten Cena. Horrible booking.
I just heard chavito helps produce heelz
@OmegaRedFan
Жыл бұрын
Chavo's LWO WCW theme is his best one.
Hmm... I'm sure I not the only one that caught that but I don't think Sandow likes Rip Rogers very much
Treat! Delete! Treat! Delete!
Im cheep too!!!!!!! Never been broke Im 65
Tony should let the young bucks go out and get the shit beat out of them from real wrestlers and stretched to get them in line.
And I don't make a lot of money
Another layer has been pealed back on Kenny Bolin.....and it's greasy too!😂 He doesn't even respect the funerals of loved ones!
@Yaz-pn9py
Жыл бұрын
He is one of those people you just have to accept them the way they are.
@StarMakerBolin
Жыл бұрын
You're such an idiot. We gave the people what they wanted and I made a tidy profit off from it. He forgot to mention that we put two tickets in the overalls of my brother's stepdads pocket. Now does that make you feel a little better? I thought it would
@indyphillipconner6252
Жыл бұрын
Bolin is a swindler
Sandow doesn't watch WWE bc he knows it just brings back memories to when he was actually somebody in the wrestling business. Now a days he could walk through the airport and not a single person would look at him.
Maybe Jungle Boy had a bad flight, or the hotel f'd up his room... granted that doesn't excuse him being a dork during a convention, but still.. i dont think he need to be getting as much heat as he is for being in a bad mood one time.
@playboy_x
Жыл бұрын
The only people I’ve seen make a big deal about Jungle Boy is Cornette and James. Had it really been as bad as they’re saying it was it would’ve been all over twitter. Wrestling media for you as usual, over exaggerating and trying to get clicks.
@Robby_C
Жыл бұрын
@@playboy_x well, I guess that depends on what you mean by “all over Twitter” .. I mean people are talking about it… he acknowledged it… Let’s not pretend like everything was rainbows and butterflies, or that people are just making it up.
@superlawes1
Жыл бұрын
All he had to do was smile and act like he was grateful to the fans.its basic stuff.
@Robby_C
Жыл бұрын
@@superlawes1 I agree. I just don’t think people need to bury him like he just kicked their grandma in the shin..
Come on quit calling him Sandow He’s better than that…and so are you Dutch
Aaron just nailed it on how those aew idiots don't need advice! Some of those legends have been on shows that got 8-9 million viewers! Aew has never or will ever see that! So go ahead and be fine with being no.2! Stop acting like you've won some fake ass ratings war! Believe me WWE is NOT concerned with aew.
All I heard was gay gay gay gay
A fucking intersection...wtf?