Episode 2 Air Filtration Systems for the Royal Enfield 650 Twin

Фильм және анимация

From theory to installation and performance gains.
How air filtration systems work and why we make changes to optimise performance. We breakdown your options, cost, complexity of installation and what sort of results you can expect from changes to the air intake on a Royal Enfield Twin 650.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 Opening
0:11 Intro
0:33 System Design & Function
4:03 Performance Options
6:00 Stock Air Box Elimination
7:49 Secondary Air Injection System Elimination
8:55 Performance Expectations
9:57 Coming Next & Closing
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  • @TheContiGT
    @TheContiGT7 ай бұрын

    Really informative. Considering an air box delete this winter and there's so much in here that could just be written off as far too complicated and best left to professionals but you're letting the world know. It's really appreciated. Thanks alot.

  • @ATOMICookie
    @ATOMICookie3 жыл бұрын

    Lovely video. Thank you guys for taking the time and effort to make these.

  • @angelquilez1796
    @angelquilez17963 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! I cant wait for the next one 😊

  • @ioannisgiannaros3261
    @ioannisgiannaros32613 жыл бұрын

    love all your videos - thanks for the great content!

  • @gahanfrost6318
    @gahanfrost63183 жыл бұрын

    Great job!!! waiting for next episode.

  • @alroymenezes
    @alroymenezes3 жыл бұрын

    awesome channel. well explained and detailed. keep it up!

  • @stevegoodwin5841
    @stevegoodwin58413 жыл бұрын

    Great informative video. Cheers!

  • @akisulodia9508
    @akisulodia95083 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and detailed, thank you for making the videos.

  • @ksmotoshed7961
    @ksmotoshed79613 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!! Very informative and straightforward description of the air filtration system! Thank you!

  • @JumpingWatermelons
    @JumpingWatermelons3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. You give clear and thorough information

  • @bitbinge
    @bitbinge3 жыл бұрын

    _Pure Gold_ - I learned a lot. Thank you for making this series.

  • @Billyjack050
    @Billyjack0503 жыл бұрын

    Great work Will

  • @abdullakhan4411
    @abdullakhan44113 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making these videos. I own a GT 650 and planning for exactly these upgrades. Thanks once again for the elaborate information.

  • @thunderstruckperform
    @thunderstruckperform3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video I got you guys to do filter and pipes on the first service and it made a awesome difference in power and gave the bike personality keep up the good work can’t wait for the next video

  • @Mick6661320
    @Mick66613203 жыл бұрын

    Second in the series. Check out the first video before you watch this one.

  • @FikkieSteker
    @FikkieSteker3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there from Holland ;) very nice and informative vids really!! I am happy i found this blog and will keep my eyes open for the new epps. Thanks!!

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dave!

  • @crumpet_
    @crumpet_ Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loving this series, learning more about the machine and how best I can customise it. Physical demonstrations with the downpipes and engine on the workbench are great, as are the explanations, cheers!

  • @BearArms1972
    @BearArms1972 Жыл бұрын

    I am diggin' your videos. Thank you so much for this series. I have long been wanting an EVO Sportster to tinker with. Now that HD is no longer making them, and the prices are so steep, I have been considering the RE INT 650. This series of videos is really inspirind me to see what this bike can be made into. Thank you again for the time and effort that you put into this series. (Maybe when the Super Meteor 650 comes out, a similar series can be made.) Bless you from Texas.

  • @TheEnfieldGuy
    @TheEnfieldGuy3 жыл бұрын

    Great video....I'm always learning something! Volumetric Efficiency....my new favourite term 🙏

  • @md.minhaz1241

    @md.minhaz1241

    2 жыл бұрын

    Тттт

  • @charlestoffee
    @charlestoffee3 жыл бұрын

    Great series, thanks.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good tip Charles - done.

  • @allsearpw3829
    @allsearpw38293 жыл бұрын

    Hi , another amazing video ,full in depth , air has never flowed so easily into a motor and out of your lungs . Even to the fact that some parts and ideas are only for track use and not road legal . well done and thanks for the video .

  • @pranaytamang825
    @pranaytamang8252 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work you guys are doing, really appreciate it , very informative. I have learned so much form this series.. thank you 🙏 I wish you guys were in INDIA .

  • @MrTexMart
    @MrTexMart3 жыл бұрын

    Great detailed explanation of the Twin's air system! Thanks for taking the time to make these very informative videos and helping out the RE650 community. Now I just need to get some of those pods to make my bike look "cute" 🤣... think they come in orange?

  • @louieq5705
    @louieq57053 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, when you do the pod filter mod are you also getting rid of the E vap system and if so what do you do to the hose that goes to the purge control valve thanks again for the help and the great channel 👍

  • @michellefriend8848
    @michellefriend88482 жыл бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @kimhicks8443
    @kimhicks8443 Жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine made himself a airflow test rig. After some experimentation, he found that the little pod filters were the WORST form of air filter. extremely detrimental to air flow that you could ever use. he found that the std filter was by far the best filtration. Please run comparison dyno tests if you disbelieve.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    Жыл бұрын

    Cool story bro 👍

  • @hunkass3982
    @hunkass39823 жыл бұрын

    nice and informative. Best thing is you can be a good mechanical mentor

  • @GregoryHouseMD1
    @GregoryHouseMD13 жыл бұрын

    Great VIDEO! and yes the dog made me subscribe to your channel! :)

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pixie can be very persuasive 😂 She’s a great shop dog

  • @rajlucka939
    @rajlucka9393 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!! New sub

  • @MrFaciolito
    @MrFaciolito3 жыл бұрын

    Very nice Video. We have this parts in germany too.

  • @chrispulham4779
    @chrispulham47792 ай бұрын

    Thankyou so much.

  • @ytaussiegamer445
    @ytaussiegamer4454 ай бұрын

    I’d like to see a detailed conversation form stock to race while it’s in the chassis

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    4 ай бұрын

    ?

  • @2000maomag
    @2000maomag2 жыл бұрын

    Excelente video. Gracias por compartir y traducir al español.

  • @AP2876
    @AP28763 жыл бұрын

    Graet videos very informative. I have one question, if I want to clean breather along with air filter, how do I?

  • @BlueRidgeRider
    @BlueRidgeRider3 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Las Vegas! Love your videos! Do you sell all the filters needed to remove the airbox? I'm also interested in the secondary air tube. Do you ship to the US or should I look locally? Thanks!

  • @cristianbmc7205
    @cristianbmc72053 жыл бұрын

    Along with greeting them and congratulating them on their great work, I would like to know the value of this kit, the conical filters the pipes etc, everything necessary to remove the original filter, I do not seek more power, only aesthetic because I want to install this engine in a rigid chopper chassis, thank you very much and I hope to soon see more videos of your Chanel.

  • @ChrisMurphy-lg3pj
    @ChrisMurphy-lg3pj2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Great series so far. WRT the EVAP canister and its removal. Will removing the EVAP valve throw an ECU error? and do you plug the fuel tank inlet pipe nipple? Thanks

  • @EndurohpEngBr
    @EndurohpEngBr2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks. Inside airbox there two rubber ducts to each trothle body. These ducts are made with sound reduction purpose or they are there for some performance tuning? They can be modified for some performance increase? Thanks.

  • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
    @clutchpedalreturnsprg77103 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the informative video. Now I understand why the air is drawn in through the center of the filter and not the exterior as with other filter systems. It seems that this set up would make reusable air filters harder to clean. It's been bugging me since I noticed the different air induction technique.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    The trick is a soft toothbrush. You put the filter cleaning solution on the inside and gently spread it with the brush. Let it soak in to break up the dirt. Then (again gently) brush the dirty inside as you rinse the solution off with warm water from the outside in.

  • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710

    @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Thank you.

  • @saravananrayapan1294
    @saravananrayapan12943 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation on the air intake system. I did wonder why there's so many pipes coming out from the air intake box. Thanks alot. If we change the air filter to performance air filter ( DNA ) , won't it affect the air-fuel ratio ? Do we need to install a booster plug to cheat the ECU ? Pls advice ... looking forward your answer ...thanks.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Keep watching Saravana tuners are coming next in the series

  • @chittireddysainarenreddy3976
    @chittireddysainarenreddy39763 жыл бұрын

    pls do a video on wobble and remedy for that

  • @dave8549
    @dave85492 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys, great videos. How much Hp/Nm improvement could I expect with a standard 650 plus new exhaust (headers and mufflers) and air-box mods ( hi-flo filter, remove intake cover) ? Can I get away with those mods without an ECU flash or Power Commander ? Thanks. Subscribed.

  • @DEeMONsworld
    @DEeMONsworld3 жыл бұрын

    Wish your shop was next door, well no...I'd be a lot poorer. I like your philosophy, straight forward honest facts, nuts and bolts approach. There a couple of things I'd like to do to my Interceptor to optimize the A/F ratio and fix what I think is the lag in the fueling at low RPMs, I've added aftermarket exhaust and removed the snorkel, DNA is next when the stock filter gets dirty, (I'm frugal :)). My problem is there is no dyno in my pace, like to discuss piggyback ECUs with you and possible maps. you do international shipping?

  • @ronnronn55
    @ronnronn553 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know how to remove the air box. Specifically does it come out the side, or was it installed with the motor from the front, or another way of stating that, what is the factory build sequence? Also what has to be removed or pushed aside to make enough clearance? Thanks, Ronn

  • @katana258
    @katana2583 жыл бұрын

    simple block off the 2nd air to exhaust . all b/s . done motor runs cooler pipes not as hot ..done ..then run a crank case vent hose out back with a small filter .. done . .idle air hose also a small hose and small filter ..done now the motor can just burn clean air ... no oil fume crap ...you can do this with the stock air box still on it and it will run better ..did this on my 2001 triumph and its idle fine for 20 years

  • @nitishagar
    @nitishagar2 жыл бұрын

    Great content! One question on the performance filter use, is it safe to use stage 2 cover with stock exhaust?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutly!

  • @GurdeepSingh-cg1yp
    @GurdeepSingh-cg1yp2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to you, I wish I was an Aussie

  • @ckumar9
    @ckumar93 жыл бұрын

    Hi, great video! Do you ship to India? Do you have distribution in India?

  • @chrisblenkinsopp8588
    @chrisblenkinsopp85886 ай бұрын

    Good...

  • @stanislaviv14
    @stanislaviv14 Жыл бұрын

    jewel, IlL be on touch

  • @pedroecheverria4325
    @pedroecheverria43253 жыл бұрын

    Niceeeee...!!!!

  • @GrewalsGarage
    @GrewalsGarage2 жыл бұрын

    Will the ECU configure after the pod air filters? Or will it require a programmer? Because If the air input(air filter) and output (exhaust) are free flow but the fuel amount is same it will make the bike run more lean(hot).

  • @ArchanaDevi-oc9gv
    @ArchanaDevi-oc9gv Жыл бұрын

    The exhaust looks nice .. may I know the name ??

  • @MrMbragg
    @MrMbragg3 жыл бұрын

    "...make it cute ...". A Revelry Racing proprietary process??

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s a “technical term” Mr Bragg 🤣

  • @studioscale
    @studioscale3 жыл бұрын

    Are there any benefits to removing the secondary air system? Thank you for the videos!

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    This system is commonly referred to as "Aspirated" air injection. This achieves air injection by taking advantage of the negative pressure pulses in the exhaust system AT ENGINE IDLE. A sensitive reed valve assembly (called an aspirator valve) is bolted to the front of the engine above the exhaust ports. These are connected to the electronically controlled Secondary Air Valve via a common rail and a hose, which draws air directly from the clean side of the air filter. During engine idle, brief but periodic negative pressure pulses in the exhaust system draw air through the aspirator valve and into the exhaust stream at the cylinder head. This system has been in use since the 1970s and is relatively common on modern motorcycle engines. The primary function is to add oxygen to the exhaust when the engine is cold to help burn unburned gasses and heat up the catalytic converters. In a race engine the SAI serves no purpose. There is no "performance" benefit to eliminating it. Eliminating it only reduces complexity and can make reading Air/Fuel Ratio with a wide band sensor or sniffer more accurate at idle.

  • @studioscale

    @studioscale

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Thank you for the very clear explanation!

  • @vinayakkatamble3247
    @vinayakkatamble32473 жыл бұрын

    Why would Royal Enfield put a more restrictive air filter cover ? What I mean to ask is, here in India we ride in mostly dusty and wet conditions isn’t that snorkel helping in keeping the heavier particles from getting inside the air filter ?

  • @lloydp8221
    @lloydp8221 Жыл бұрын

    I have the s&s race only slipons and want to fit a after market air filter will I need to get the ecu tuned ??

  • @chrishealy4664
    @chrishealy46643 жыл бұрын

    Do you have an opinion of whether there are any benefits or risks to using a 'Booster Plug' with an after market exhaust and high performance air filter?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great question Chris, you'll find the answer in our upcoming episodes about tuning.

  • @choppersanglas
    @choppersanglas2 жыл бұрын

    .Hello, very good videos ... I congratulate you. I have a query, if you mount the individual air filters, removing the filter box, where do you place the temperature sensor? ' !! or delete it !! thank you very much from Madrid

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    You definately do not delete it. You want to mount it in the vecinity of the air filters. A zip-tie to the frame will do.

  • @choppersanglas

    @choppersanglas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles ..OK thank you very much a greeting

  • @chrispulham4779
    @chrispulham47792 ай бұрын

    Hi Will, please advise me is it ok to run my Interceptor with just a K&N filter and stock exhaust. I have heard it could run Lean.. Thankyou and luv your videos..... Chris

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 ай бұрын

    You can run a K&N filter and stock exhaust.

  • @fabianoH5N1
    @fabianoH5N13 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why noone made a full airbox Delete plug and play kit . Y piece of 3d printed plastik or silicone hose from the trottle body with a pcv plug and a good sized pod filter at the frame triangle where the original airbox sits

  • @ashmcalpine653
    @ashmcalpine6533 жыл бұрын

    Is there such a thing as an air-filter cover eliminator for the bullet/classic type set-up ? If not, is it conceivably possible... that is, do all filters breathe the same way (from the centre through to the outside) .

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    We make a Ram-Flo filter kit for the C5. facebook.com/RoyalEnfieldSydney/photos/2377488205883177

  • @broadybundy
    @broadybundy Жыл бұрын

    Couldn't find the eliminator on your guys site. Also what size pods are you using? I can't find this information anywhere.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's the SAI Eleminator: shop.revelryracing.com.au/product/revelry-racing-sai-common-rail-block-off/ Here are the POD Filters: shop.revelryracing.com.au/product/bmc-uni-pod-air-filter-650-twin-stock-throttle-body/

  • @kabeemer
    @kabeemer2 жыл бұрын

    Like this BMC set up, but what if I can add an intake (induction) tube with a snorket at front to add more air into the stock air box, (by eliminating the stock filters?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who knows? You should give it go and share your results.

  • @kabeemer

    @kabeemer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles I was thinking that it will work like a force Air induction in the early zx-11's used to have, in this case, it will bring more cold air, make the airbox packed with more densed cold air.

  • @TJTravelingteacher
    @TJTravelingteacher3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, can to take on the wobbling issue of the handle bar in royal enfield interceptor and how to rectify it? Thankyou.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you have a wobble issue you should take your motorcycle to a qualified mechanic. There are at least 50 things that can contribute to a wobble. We have had no complaints of wobble from our 650 customers or on the bikes we ride.

  • @andrewbull3537
    @andrewbull35373 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a very educational video 👍👍👍👍👍 You should be a prof in a school . See you later, careful on the road.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Been there done that Andrew! 😂 Thanks for joining us

  • @andrewbull3537

    @andrewbull3537

    Жыл бұрын

    Re watched the video 1 year later ,still very interesting 🤔. Take care on the road (both of you ) Peace out ✌️

  • @robzomber9832
    @robzomber9832 Жыл бұрын

    are you still selling the common rail and air filters? the links don't work and I can't find them on your site

  • @kenwaybarcelona6341
    @kenwaybarcelona63412 жыл бұрын

    Hello. I recently installed aftermarket exhaust pipes and a performance air filter on my INT650. Now my exhaust emission has a "burnt oil" smell. Can you help me figure out what has happened?

  • @125BHP
    @125BHP2 жыл бұрын

    Does the after market filter and stage 2 kit let the more dust inside ? That must be a prob too.. just curious

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not in our experience. As long as they are properly maintained.

  • @125BHP

    @125BHP

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles thank you 😊

  • @geographicalyeast
    @geographicalyeast3 жыл бұрын

    Can I just change the air filter to a DNA one, while keeping the stock exhaust? Would that run the engine lean? Or do I need to have a powertronic tuner+exhaust and air filter as a combination?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great question Gulshir you do not need a tuner if you change the air cleaner only. The ECU will adapt to the increased air flow with little to no risk of harm to the engine.

  • @geographicalyeast

    @geographicalyeast

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Thank you Sir!

  • @TonMachielsen

    @TonMachielsen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Most people say you need to have the engine do a full warm-up cycle to let the ECU adjust to the changed air flow. However, S&S says that that's not needed. What is your opinion?

  • @guillaumecharpentier3706
    @guillaumecharpentier37063 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I would to do that just for astetic reason, would it avoid my warranty. Also should I contact privately regarding parts pricing.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Warranty guidelines vary by country we would encourage you to read your owner's manual or consult your local dealer. Most parts are listed on our website please email about any others shop.revelrycycles.com.au/

  • @gt650walashivam9
    @gt650walashivam93 жыл бұрын

    Will i add a fre flow air intake cap does it make fuel to run lean

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @apocrypto
    @apocrypto2 жыл бұрын

    There is a pipe coming out of the charcoal canister with a inverted U shape opening. It just left open in the tool box, not connected to anything. What is that?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's the vent.

  • @apocrypto

    @apocrypto

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Thank you! My GTs tanks water drain is clogged. I tried clearing it with a wire and wd40, didn’t work. Any suggestions? 🙂

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@apocrypto Compressed air

  • @keerblackley907
    @keerblackley90710 ай бұрын

    Hello how do i see toms dyno results

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    10 ай бұрын

    Watch the cam video.

  • @fiamun
    @fiamun3 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see a bike with the air box removed and just pod filters.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look at the video of our Scrambler. Up close photos on fb.

  • @dhruvsanga
    @dhruvsanga Жыл бұрын

    I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION Can i run a High Air flow AIR FILTER and a FULL SYSTEM EXHAUST on stock ECU and stock tune?(will it damage my bike?) i have a FuelX lite at the moment how does that help me ?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    Жыл бұрын

    The change to VE made by air cleaner and (most) full exhaust systems are well within the range of the original ECU's adaptive learning, so no, it won't damage the bike. This kind of combination is precisely what the FuelX Lite is for. It helps push the AFR back to stoichiometric (or slightly to the rich side). For your setup, it's a good thing.

  • @dhruvsanga

    @dhruvsanga

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles So after installing fuelx and riding it for a week or so i have noticed that it has generated a lag in my rev band, when at second gear and linearly accelrating the bike pulls properly until 5000 RPM and goes flat i.e stops pulling btw 5000-6000 RPM and that is when i am already linerally opening the throttle but after 6000RPM the bike bounces and there is this sudden burst of power.(FYI rignt now i am just running an performance air filter with the stage 2 plate with stock exhaust). This lag is not expericed when i give 100% throttle, at full throttle the bike pulls perfectly through out the rev range, what do you think could be causing this(my bike is a 2023 interecptor with 3000km on the ODO). Thanks in advance.

  • @jaredyoder5808
    @jaredyoder58083 жыл бұрын

    Any chance you would eventually sell a DYI airbox delete kit complete with Revelry machined reed valve eliminator? I'm sure you know there are A LOT of 650 Twin owners out there wanting to make their steed "cute". Seems owners like things simple and chopping out all the complex tech govt officials work so hard to regulate would be up in priority (and fun). Passing inspection is another topic...🤞 (And let's not mention the environment 😶)

  • @jaredyoder5808

    @jaredyoder5808

    3 жыл бұрын

    BTW love your channel - subscribed!

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    While we don't do a "kit" we do sell all the bits you need. It's just the POD filters, a breather filter, a tee for the breather line and some zip ties. You use the original breather hoses and (once the air box is out) it all just bolts on. However, removing the OE air box is not a "simple" task. One of our mechanics shot some pictures of one he did last week so we'll have "visuals" to describe the process.

  • @ethan073

    @ethan073

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles can you please point me towards these air box removal photos?

  • @ChadWinters
    @ChadWinters6 ай бұрын

    so why does RE make a restrictive snorkel, when it would actually be cheaper to make a more open inlet? There has to be a reason

  • @rudyaaaaaaa
    @rudyaaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 2021. No more mods to the ecu from what I’ve been told. I learned this after purchase of S&S street slip on’s and k&n filter. Do you know if I can still bolt these on with little to no risk. : /

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    That seems unlikley. Can you be more specific? Precicely what were you told and by whom?

  • @rudyaaaaaaa

    @rudyaaaaaaa

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jens Lyck at boosterplug.com in Denmark replyed to my email asking would the booster plug for the 2020 model work with the 2021. His reply was no and they won’t be making one for 2021. www.boosterplug.com/shop/cms-2021_and_newer_bikes.html

  • @rudyaaaaaaa

    @rudyaaaaaaa

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would rather use a power commander, I’ve owned 40 bikes, I’m exhaust pipe and fuel management poor so in this case I was going to try something well...different. In the first part of the email he made it sound like Dyna Jet wouldn’t supply anything for 2021. I decided to put the air filter in with the restrictive cover and to leave the baffles in the new pipes even though I’d love to hear it opened up on these Louisiana back roads. I’ve enjoyed listening to you two, thank you for sharing.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rudyaaaaaaa Not sure what Euro level is currently being sold in US. In Oz as of today, we're still getting Euro IV. If your bike is a Euro IV (look at your owners manual) there is definately no issue with running a Power Commander.

  • @ethan073

    @ethan073

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles US bikes still have Euro 4, as of 2022 models.

  • @jam42652
    @jam426522 жыл бұрын

    If I install only the DNA air filter with the Stage 2(ring cover) without the booster plug, this could be a not good thing to do? I talk about the air increase without the fuel adjust too. Anyone can help me please?

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to worry. Fitting the DNA filter and/or S&S mufflers is well within the original ECU's adaptive range. While yu might pull a little more power out with a tuner, it will be fine for every day without any sort of tuning mechanism.

  • @jam42652

    @jam42652

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Thank you so much.

  • @Lens_luminous
    @Lens_luminous3 жыл бұрын

    Quick question, will it be wise to use high flow air filter on stock exhaust???

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    You certainly can. The benefit in this case is not so much the flow as the serviceability. The stock filter is paper and shouldn't be cleaned. It should just be replaced. The S&S/DNA filters can be cleaned and are considered "Lifetime" filters.

  • @Lens_luminous

    @Lens_luminous

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles I am considering DNA filter, but will I see some improvement in performance if I use it on RE stock exhaust???

  • @DavidLee-ch9vt

    @DavidLee-ch9vt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lens_luminous no! You will loose performance

  • @Lens_luminous

    @Lens_luminous

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidLee-ch9vt how do you say?? Or does it work only with exhaust change as well?

  • @DavidLee-ch9vt

    @DavidLee-ch9vt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lens_luminous it will only improve the ride if you change everything else (engine, exhaust, ecu, etc. which is a few thousand dollars - worth it?) since the stock setup is designed by engineers, maybe a little on the lean side, but after all perfectly fine. You will not improve this motorcycle just by using an open filter. It’s like putting on a bigger size of shoes to improve your running speed 😊 I found the booster plug indeed helpful for throttle response and acceleration since it richens the fuel mixture, but it does not enhance power in general and it is not a must. If you can spare the money just get good sparks, regular oil change, and maybe the booster plug. That’s it. You don’t need more for this bike. I’ve ridden 10K with this thing through Europe from the Alps to highspeed roads to gravel roads. For the last few thousand miles I dialed down to stock with booster plug and it is perfectly fine 👍

  • @TonMachielsen
    @TonMachielsen3 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation on the free-flow air filters. One thing everybody forgets to explain, though, is that it take a lot more effort to clean them than a paper filter. Check the full instructions on how to clean a free-flow filter here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGyL0sWOZJa5lLg.html This is probably not an issue for competition drivers because they are used to a lot of maintenance for their bikes anyway, but a street rider needs to know this. A dealer won't clean your free-flow filter for you, you need cleaning materials, oil and time to do this whenever your filter is dirty. So yes, free-flow filters have their use but if you are a rider who keeps his bike maintained at the dealer, then a free-flow filter is not for you.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well that’s just silly. Of course it takes more effort because paper filters can’t be cleaned. We are a dealer and we clean filters all the time.

  • @TonMachielsen

    @TonMachielsen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles I haven't found any dealers here who want to touch wet air filters. Maybe it's too much work for them, maybe because they don't have the filter oil, i don't know. But here in Spain, when they see a wet filter they just skip the filter maintenance. You have to do that yourself.

  • @pikebobstar2033
    @pikebobstar20333 жыл бұрын

    Hmmmmm...more air surely means more dirt = faster engine wear. For performance/racing not really a problem as engine longevity isn't a major issue. Over the years, for standard use, stick to stock IMO. Interesting topic though.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting opinion but wrong Pike. More airflow doesn’t equate to more dirt in your engine. The high flow filters are more efficient than stock by providing a larger surface area for air to flow through and by using oil to create a “sticky” surface for the dirt to adhere to. These filters filter down to 5 micron. We wouldn’t want more dirt in a high performance race engine.

  • @pikebobstar2033

    @pikebobstar2033

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles whilst I appreciate your response but to say definitively that I'm "wrong" is very arrogant. There are many discussions and articles written by engineering professionals that would argue free flow filters allow more contaminants and debris into the engine/oil thus damaging engine internals. I am not disputing claims of a modicum improvement in performance but for normal road use not worth the trade for reliability and longevity. I think all this tuning and performance tweaks are missing the point of this bike. But that's just my opinion and I wouldn't dare say you were "wrong". ✌

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@pikebobstar2033 Arrogance was not the intent. The intent was to communicate authoritatively. What you said was "more air surely means more dirt = faster engine wear". To suggest that the use of a (high quality) high flow air filter will dramatically increase engine wear and reduce longevity IS wrong. We have sold, serviced, built, ridden and raced countless motorcycles over the last 40+ years with high flow air filters. Many of those daily riders accumulating hundreds of thousands of kms with no measurable ill effect on combustion chamber components. There is very often drastic disparity between mechanical engineering and it's practical application. In manufacturing we have a couple of sayings that apply to this discourse. 1. Test data overrides engineering arguments. 2. There comes a time in every project to shoot the engineer and go into production! We appreciate your comments and value your perspective. The whole point of our doing this series is to provide a trustworthy source of information people can use to make informed decisions. Certainly one of the biggest draw backs to the information age is that it is so diluted with misinformation. Surely you would agree your post suggests to our viewers that the advice we offered on the subject is ill advised. Opinions rendered without the benefit of substantive data just muddy the water and make it more difficult for the layperson to make informed choices. The "wrong" was not aimed at your feelings. Rather we need to respond concisely and authoritatively because this is exactly this kind of myth we are working to dispel.

  • @allanb52
    @allanb5219 күн бұрын

    This bike in stock form does 100mph+, why do you want more power, this is not a racing bike and doesn't need more power, chose another bike. Now the 350J yes, it struggle at 65mph, so a few more horse would make it highway friendly.

  • @RevelryCycles

    @RevelryCycles

    19 күн бұрын

    Every bike is a race bike if you're racing. Ride your own ride and mind your horses Allan.

  • @allanb52

    @allanb52

    19 күн бұрын

    @@RevelryCycles Try and stay safe an the thing..

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