I use those pod filters and can vouch for them flowing plenty of air; they're only restrictive if over-oiled or packed with soot in off-road situations. You can fit a "40mm" onto a 42mm intake, they do stretch and the band has an easier job of keeping them attached; I have had some "oversized" ones fall off. Not being critical but I've been using these for 40 years. The best source for this type of filter is Dime City Cycles in Florida the last few years; that has been my experience. Again, your project looks great and please keep us updated.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

That is good info. Thanks! I measured the inside diameter of both sets of pod filters. They were both smaller than the stated values by a decent amount. I think it was 1.5 mm.

I have no use for this video yet, but I will give you watch time, a comment, and a like to support you in the algorithm to help people like me who are looking to modify their (future) Continental GT.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the like!

I did think about removing my air-box on my GT at one stage. I can't remember why I wanted to remove it but I did not take it out because it looked kind of difficult. Your video shows it being even more difficult than I had imagined. Well done you. Lots of good information in this video. Thank you very much.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! All the plugs, tubes, and pieces can be a little overwhelming. As I do these projects, I find the more I know what to expect, and what I am unplugging, the less intimidating the process becomes. It gets easier the more stuff you do. I worked up to it and got as much info as I could before I started.

Glad to see another video with more insight on your project. Since I have two Triumphs that are 865cc and almost 70 horsepower I went with the smaller Weisco 83.5mm pistons on my INT650 rather than the 90mm pistons which are common to the Triumphs; my displacement is 743cc so I won't be changing any of the induction side components, already running a full stainless-steel exhaust system from the 648cc stock days. I may defeat the air injection as you did. My goal was to have 55-58 horsepower by carefully adjusting deck-height/compression with the cylinder base gasket. Again, thanks for the continued info on your progress. My INT650/750 has almost 30,000 miles, 90 percent as a 648cc (Virginia, USA).

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like the project, Frederick! You might want to reconsider about the air induction side. It does look pretty cool! Haha!

Great vid buddy, thank you for making it. You have great patience.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope it helps someone.

Hello, very interesting, I would like to know what resistance value the small electrical connector that connects to the air elimination valve has, I would be very grateful. thank you so much. all the best

Hey! Just wondering what you did with the one air hose that connects to the fuel tank? Can't seem to find any info on what to do with it. Awesome video and a great help over the basic mk designs install video they have. Subscribed!

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

I just reattached and left both the black rubber hoses hoses that came off the tank hanging. I think one of them was the one that got the screw put into the end of it.

@oakinch thank you for all your documentation and vids in the work you've done. it's a massive help. quick question - based on your experience so far, what would be your recommendation for tuning? Powerfronics or Powercommander? I have a 2023 GT650 with free flow headers from Hitchcocks, Fuel Booster, and DNA stage 2. Im having some bogging down issues and i suspect its due to my fuel mapping. i know so say a fuel booster is enough and others say they needed to remap. ive removed the Evap system, checked plugs, upgraded relays and still having some bogging down on acceleration issues from 1-3 to 4 gears. at this time, it may just be the ECU is not playing nice with my upgrades. No error warning lights thrown either.

@OakInch

7 ай бұрын

I have only used power commander 5 and 6. Whichever product you choose, it is going to be the map that matters. I would go to Revelry racing's store site and look at the maps they will sell with their products. See what matches. I had a PC6 with a map from Hitchcock's, and it wasn't a super great map. I would not really go for a Hitchcocks map unless I had to. PC6 is also kind of limited and needs a pro license to really tune. Also, on the Power Commander website, they have maps you can download for exhausts if you buy from them. I was using a PC5 with a map that I bought from revelry for a while. It was pretty good until I deleted my airbox. Then I had to get a tune on a dyno. Not really sure PC5 supports the latest bikes either. So basically, I would say, just try to find maps that match your mods, and then make a decision.

@sallysmith6723

7 ай бұрын

10-4 and thank you. i did see in your vid you mentioned the limitations with the PC6. thanks again for the reply and for posting your journey in custom cafe racers. big inspirations. maybe one day we see a killer instagram page dedicated to your racer ;).

Thank you very much for your video! It helps me a lot while I am working on my own delete. I have a question - what did you do with a little sensor that is screwed by two screws and goes inside the airbox in its top right corner on the right side. Both BAAK and MK Design tutorials say nothing about it.

@OakInch

21 күн бұрын

Thanks! I tucked it up under the seat. You will like the delete. You can tell the difference at higher RPMs.

@thesundayrides

21 күн бұрын

@@OakInch Thank you! It's the air temp sensor, right? How about the low RPM performance? Did you notice any downsides? Thank you very much for the fast reply! I continue working on it tomorrow.

@OakInch

21 күн бұрын

@@thesundayrides Yes. It is the air sensor. I didn't notice a whole lot at the lower end. But it was obvious that the high end had more pull and was not struggling. The airbox is definitely a bottleneck at high RPM. It is not going to become a sport bike, but I could tell the difference. It was good. I did get a new Power Commander tune a little while after I did the delete. IDK if that is needed or what other mods you have. I think the airbox delete, a full exhaust, and a Power Commander tune is probably the best bang for the buck.

@thesundayrides

21 күн бұрын

@@OakInch thank you very much for the detailed answer!

Are you planning to make tutorial on the gt like how to self service or how to self modify

@OakInch

10 ай бұрын

I try not to remake a lot of content that already exists. Generally, I make a video when I can't find any good info on a subject and have to figure it out myself. Then I pass that on for the next guy.

@anvveshak

10 ай бұрын

@@OakInch I think you should do it. You have no idea how a huge population in my state uses continental gt 650 and most of the service centres try to fool them to pay more. Man should know his ride. But they don't.

Great content, was the battery smaller and did it lay flat? And where did you put the relays?

@OakInch

9 ай бұрын

I have a lithium battery that is smaller. It came with plastic spacers, which I used to make it full size for this project. It was the same dimensions as regular battery when installed. It is laying on its' side, in the kit provided battery box, with the terminals pointing to the rear of the bike. The relays are down under the panel at the bottom of the bike. I did go back later and use some plastic bags to waterproof a lot of the the electric items that are under the lower panel.

Hey man! Love the video and appreciate all the info, I did have a question though, I bought that smart moto eval delete kit and mine did NOT come with an 8mm bolt/screw but in the video you showed that it had come with the kit. Is there anyway I can order just a bolt? I went back to smart moto and they have just the nipple plugs and electronic eliminator. Appreciate the help, want to get this bulky thing off!

@OakInch

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! You could shove any bolt up there that will stay in. It is literally just a bolt to stop gasoline from coming out. There was nothing special about it. Or you could clamp the hose with something. If you don't mind a little gas on your floor sometimes, you probably don't need anything.

@phishpike

9 ай бұрын

@@OakInch awesome thanks so much! I’ll give an update when completed!

@OakInch

9 ай бұрын

@@phishpike Awesome. I want to hear about it.

goodnight. Sorry for the inconvenience, but could you tell me how many millimeters the filters measure? I live in Brazil, so I can't buy from websites in England. I'm going to buy it here in my country but I don't know the correct measurements for the conical filters.

@OakInch

28 күн бұрын

If you go to about 18:40 on the video, I talk about how to size them so you can order the right ones. It is probably better to watch that because they come in many shapes.

Hey what holds the battery in the battery box thats in the kit? Mine seems very loose so I wasnt sure what keeps it from sliding around in the mount?

@OakInch

6 ай бұрын

I used a lithium battery, and attached the spacer plates that came with it, to make it full sized. Then, when I put it in, it was very snug after I tightened the bolts.

..hello again, when removing the air box, where do you place the temperature sensor that is screwed to the air box? or does it cancel it? Thanks in advance

@OakInch

7 ай бұрын

I ran it up under the seat. It is still attached.

@choppersanglas

7 ай бұрын

@@OakInch Hello, thanks for the quick response. In principle, I am going to eliminate air box and Evp, mounting conical DNA filters, I will place them in such a way that they cannot be seen, through rubber ducts, so as not to have problems with official state reviews. I have also mounted the regulator under the lower fork stem, so that it does not heat up and in case of breakdown the change is quick and comfortable. Thank you so much. Greetings from Madrid excuse my english, it's from google

Hello, it's me again :) I hope you don't mind another question. After assembling everything together, checking all connectors, etc, the bike doesn't start. The starter revolves but the engine doesn't start. I checked most obvious things as good as I could, and didn't find what was wrong. Do you have any thoughts? Thank you!

@OakInch

19 күн бұрын

Always frustrating when weird things happen. It is probably something simple though of it was just the air box. Can you hear the fuel priming when you turn the key to on and the cut off switch to on, before you hit the ignition? I'm not sure how much you took the bike apart, but make sure all the connectors are seated under the tank that lead to it. Also, go push on your spark plug cables and verify they didn't get unseated. Check your fuses. Make sure your relays are are inserted. See if you can find out of if is fuel or spark that is missing.

@thesundayrides

19 күн бұрын

@@OakInch thank you very much, this is really helpful and thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed response. After checking all this and probably more.. I found it! It was a roll over sensor mounted in a wrong orientation

@OakInch

19 күн бұрын

@@thesundayrides Awesome!

What did you end up doing with the air temperature sensor?

@OakInch

11 ай бұрын

I just ran it up under the seat.

If you go to a lithium ion battery, you will be removing a lot of weight, they are about 2.3 pounds as apposed to 11.

@OakInch

9 ай бұрын

I did that. It did save me 7 pounds.

Just curious where did you mount your MAF sensor?

@OakInch

10 ай бұрын

The sensor that was plugged into the airbox, I ran up under the seat. I'm not really sure how much it is in play with the Power Commander controlling all the fueling after a custom tune looking for the best HP. Let me know if you have a better idea, or some considerations that should be used. Seems to be running fine where it is.

@skaven5744

10 ай бұрын

@@OakInch Thanks for the reply. Yeah just did mine today and that was the only thing that didn't really have a home after nor did I know is if was important at all anymore.

Won't that be a problem when if it's raining.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

The pod filters will be fine in the rain. However, I did go back and waterproof some of the electronics stowed in the bottom compartment because I was worried about them ever getting wet. I also remade the bottom panel so it left less gap space.

what happenes if it rains? does the air filter gets damaged?

@OakInch

Ай бұрын

I avoid riding it in the rain. From what I researched, it doesn't have much, if any, effects on the filters to get them wet. That might be where going with a known brand would be a good idea.

did you upsize the tires? 110 & 140?

@OakInch

Ай бұрын

Yes. They a little larger on the stock rims. Rear Tire: Size 140/70-18 Front Tire: Size 110/90-18

Why didn't you take off the rear tire and remove the air box through the back?

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

It seemed like an unnecessary extra step if I could just pull everything out the side. The only thing it would have saved is the airbox. They were not expensive on Ebay. I didn't think I was ever putting it back in. So I chose a less effort option. If you ever plan on getting a tune, I would recommend moving to pod filters first. It made a big difference at higher RPMs where the engine was starved of air. It is a pretty cheap change, especially if you use your stock side panels and battery holder. You really don't need a kit. You just need that airbox out.

The reason the intakes go back that far is to create dead air /non turbulent

@OakInch

10 ай бұрын

That being said, getting rid of it, and tuning for the extra air, makes it run faster.

How did you re map the EFI?

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

I am not sure what you mean by "remap". If you mean clearing the codes, I used a code reader from Hitchcocks. DIAGNOSTIC SCANNER, EURO 4 + EURO 5 MODELS accessories.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com/47731 . It is menu driven and come with directions. There is a video after this one where I ended up taking it to get the Power Commander tuned on a Dyno. I did get an EFI error after that. So, I think the tool is something you will need no matter what. I don't think I have the complete solution to the codes popping up.

@nathanielfisher4269

Жыл бұрын

@@OakInch remapping has got something to do with the 02 sensors, computer, and adjusting the air fuel ratio. And or telling the computer that the new air levels are acceptable and there's no vacuum leak.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielfisher4269 Ok. It has a power commander tuned on a dyno, and blanking plugs on the 02 sensors and air injection system. It is not an ECU tune. That cleaned it up for the most part. I figured that was what you meant. From my actual job I have realized often people misuse words. I wanted to make sure I was answering the correct question.

what seat is that brother?

@OakInch

6 ай бұрын

MK Designs India cafe racer seat that does not have a cowl. It is on their full length tail tidy. I have one of their cowled seats too. But it doesn't look as good.

@joesimpson4655

6 ай бұрын

oh great i might order that kit too. is it easy to install? does it come with instructions? do i need to get seperate turn indicators?@@OakInch

@OakInch

6 ай бұрын

@@joesimpson4655 The tail tidy comes with an LED light strip to replace the brake light and rear turn signals. I bought a different one off of amazon to use. You will need an LED flasher relay if you don't already have one. They are just a little plug that goes under a side panel that replaces the original relay. Mine is that orange plug, that I got off of amazon, that you can see in this video a few times. It makes the LEDs blink at the correct speed. The kit does involve chopping the hoop end of the bike off and replacing it. The biggest downside to it is that it does not seem like it would support a passenger.

wht kind of seat is that?

@OakInch

6 ай бұрын

It is the MK Designs India cafe racer seat with their full length tail tidy kit. It is the seat with no cowl options. I have a cowled seat from them also. It doesn't look as good as this one.

@luckymutum9227

6 ай бұрын

Yes it looks better than the single cowl seat

This is a very informative video. It's such a shame you mumble, ramble, have to much background noise and talk incoherently. Thumbs up for content thumbs down for narrative.

@OakInch

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I have noticed that myself.