Lazarus has much nicer tops, and it was only $899. Cash Grab!!!

@cromBumny

8 ай бұрын

Wow, a business doing a "cash grab"...water is wet?

@Ottophil

8 ай бұрын

I don’t understand the idea of a “cash grab” or when people say bands “sell out” do you not go to work and do your job to get a paycheck? What do you make? I’m not sure what you want. They sell the guitar for the cost it was for them to make it? Sure the company won’t last since theres no profit. But they will say as they fail “at least we didnt grab any cash!”

@Vkiller711

8 ай бұрын

@@Ottophilyou definitely know what selling out is. Generation swine by Motley Crue is the definition of selling tf out

Guitar Center right now runs sale on 1959 Lemon Burst for $749. This is 50% off Greeny's price!

Haha love it when you said "its now owned by Kirk Hammet...good for him" epic! Im definitely waitimg to see this new Epi Greeny. Thanks for the heads up!

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

its awesome i can say first hand.

The finish looks very light.

They have to use a three screw truss rod cover, because the construction method means there is no wood in the middle to take a screw, they just route straight through

If I wanted to spend that much on a guitar, there’s a lovely smokehouse burst Studio in my local guitar shop - solid maple to top with some lovely flame. And Gibson on the headstock.

Thanks Dave for your always enlightning and first to report info on new releases.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

wait till hes able to talk about the next one with a gibson headstock lol

Epiphone can produce some fantastic guitars. But 1499 USD isn't just worth it. There's amazing guitars you can buy at that price point or a few dollars more. American made, European made, Asian made, whatever you like. And if you really want something that's like a Gibson, at 1499 USD, you can buy secondhand Gibsons. Nice video Dave by the way

@auntjenifer7774

8 ай бұрын

​@@BlueberryStinkFinger62😂

@auntjenifer7774

8 ай бұрын

You can get a Gibson les paul standard burst finish for $1,789 which is what this epiphone will be after tax😮 Get the Gibson or the epiphone, which every you choose to should be happy I suppose.

@MoeVanprick

8 ай бұрын

They most certainly are worth it especially now that epiphone is once again a premium brand

@fisterroboto1044

7 ай бұрын

@@FrankBuyers...guitarista-iu3zg But why would you spend this crazy amount of money on an Epiphone if you can have Such wonderful guitars, be it Asian, American or European build, for the same price as these? I just recently bought my Eastman for 1599,00 EUR. And for that same price you can have amazing guitars, even built by local luthiers. And if you spend a few 100 euros more you even have more wonderful options open to you. It just doesn't make sense

@fisterroboto1044

7 ай бұрын

@@FrankBuyers...guitarista-iu3zg Look man, I'll gladly pay 1500,00 - 2000,00 euro's for a guitar whether it be asian, european or usa made. doesn't matter. But an Epiphone just shouldn't cost more than 900,00 - 1000,00 euros (and that's the high end models). And if you're deadset on buying American made only, like I said before, There's loads of options that'll surely fit in your price range. And I know how Epiphone operates, everyone does.

The Ali Express Chibson is alot cheaper.Looks authenticish......? And probably the same factory as Epiphone.🤔🤨

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

Not likely the same factory. I believe Epiphone owns that factory. I don’t think they make other guitars for anyone else there if you’ve looked at videos of the facility on KZread.

Imagine being in 1998 and LTD Kirk signatures were $1500

I think you are better off purchasing the Epi 50s standard and putting the Gibson Greeny pickups in yourself. Heck you could upgrade the tuners and electronics as well, and still save yourself around $500.

@dver4624

8 ай бұрын

This. Gibson/Epiphone can kiss my spotty arse. £/$1400?? Could get a Japanese Tokai for that.

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

I keep wondering if people are better off buying an Epiphone Modern that has an out of phase toggle. Wouldn’t that accomplish the same effect all for $699?!

@RobbieF

8 ай бұрын

@@MashaT22 It would get you the out of phase part but the pickups are way different with the moderns. The "Greeny" pickups are PAF style humbuckers.

I’d have preferred the Kalamazoo headstock on this, it’s a dealbreaker for me it just doesn’t look right with the open book

@fisterroboto1044

8 ай бұрын

yes I was thinking the same thing

@ClaudioRaffaelli

8 ай бұрын

Good to know Im not the only one thinking this. IMO Epphone nailed it with the kalamazoo HS. I have a Lazarus and there is someting that feels "more authentic" .......lol...... with the epi logo and the epi headstock which is a huge improvement from the old one and still looks very inspired by the gibson one with the pointy edges, but is it's own thing this time. Call me crazy though. PS. You're also right when you say there is something between the Gibson HS and the Epi Logo that looks weird.....................................................Oh man I love the internet heheheh

@EthanJLongoria

8 ай бұрын

As a fan of Epiphone over Gibson (gotta root for the underdog), I completely agree. I hope this leak is a fake.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

@@EthanJLongoria its not fake

I’ve posted this video to the forum where the source of the photos comes from.

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

Where?

Good to see you Dave all well I hope.

Great information as always!

I'm actually surprised that Gibson decided to use their own headstock style for the Epi Greeny (I guess that's their way to justify their current greedy prices). To be honest, at that price point would be better to get one of the lower end MIJ Tokai Love Rock (they have a Lemon Drop finish, but it's poly)

@andrewbecker3700

8 ай бұрын

It's NOT a Gibson headstock! It's an Epiphone Kalamazoo with a slightly different shaped end. Look how straight the sides are. Gibson headstocks have some taper.

@vmx23

8 ай бұрын

@@andrewbecker3700the Epiphone greeny model has the gibson open book headstock. You are thinking of the current epiphone headstock.

@SionynJones

8 ай бұрын

The interesting thing is the original epiphone headstock the people say was clipped, actually came from the 30 era where guitars had ornate headstocks. The clipped parts were harder to bind which was meant to show craftsmanship.

$1499. A joke. Those Indian Laurel fretboards are dry as a bone and are UGLY. Not dark enough. What's the deal? PRS has beautiful fretboards on their SE line/. Crap Squires have nicer fretboards.

@johnnyxmusic

8 ай бұрын

Save the trees! 😢

@downshift00

8 ай бұрын

Right, I don't understand why Epi can't use rosewood like PRS does with their SE's.

$1499 . Wow i just bought a Fender American Performer Tele with the neck Humbucker for less.

To be blunt, I'm just straight up sick of hearing about Greeny in all of it's varying forms and productions. Sick of it! Good coverage, though, Dave. You pointed out some key features that make this nothing but a yellow guitar with bad knobs for WAY too much $$$.

@justin_smith556

8 ай бұрын

Same!

@padawan9127

8 ай бұрын

I love the greeny models and found out too late about the lazarus (similar looking) but you definitely have a point

Interesting. Epiphone does a lot of these signature guitars lately. Overbudget for me and if I would have that kind if money I’d probably spend it on a Japnese LP. I wonder where Gibson and Epiphone are going. Gibson introducing a 1600euro stripped down guitar and Epi being on the signature path.

I saw the same post on Facebook and it seems like the Greenie Epi comes with Greenie pickups.

Fender are pumping out different artist signature guitars but Gibson just keep churning out different pricepoints of Greeny?

So it’s a Lazarus without the pickguard and mismatched knobs.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

no

Good stuff Dave !

@three cord Dave. Does this have a one piece neck like the Lazarus?

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

I’m gonna venture a guess that it’s a hard no on that spec, lol.

@dewey7330

8 ай бұрын

@@MashaT22 lol. Your probably right. I’m happy I bought the Lazarus model when I did. What a fantastic guitar!

Seemed like it had to happen! But how ‘authentic’ will it be?

About time for the headstock

Guaranteed, Long & Mcquade were the ones who sold it before the release date.

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

Nah, ya think? I was gonna guess Thomann again. They’ve been screwing up a lot lately.

I asked about this a few weeks ago in a large UK guitar chain store, and was told the release date would be the 24th of November. I'm still debating whether to get one or not.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

get it its worth it

Most famous 59 is Jimmy Page’s #1 in my book.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

its neck and neck for sure between the two

So Epiphone removed the Slash stickers from the Slash Epiphone, raised the price and called it Greenie ?

@jipke7430

8 ай бұрын

Don't forget, they've changed 2 knobs

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

no

I wish all Epi's had this headstock. To me, the regular one looks like it was designed 50/50 by two people that weren't talking to each other.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

theres another epi with a gibson headstock coming after this one

Cheers mate

I hit subscribe as soon as you mentioned Gary and I laughed at the end of the sentence. Right on.

I'm not a relic fan, so I like the Gibson Greeny and I've seen pics of one of the Greeny guitars out in the wild already. It's essentially the same as my Lazarus that I converted to a Greeny tribute except that it's got a nice transparent finish on the back with much more normal looking brown stained wood instead of that awful semi-translucent red paint on the back of my Lazarus. There are some somewhat insignificant differences between the Greeny & Lazarus guitars and the regular 59s in that they use a 1 piece neck with no scarf joint and no extra piece at the heel. Not sure that's worth paying extra for on its own, but it is a difference. I have to admit though, that I do like the Gibson headstock on the Greeny better than the other headstock on my Lazarus.

Im about as big of a sucker for anything Greeny a guitar company could wish to find. And i still wouldnt buy a £1499 new epiphone. Fact of the matter is, at that price point you can start to buy far better guitars not to even mention the used market.

The bigger posts on the other epiphone are an advantage because the thin pins have a tendency to bend.

Any idea if they’re a poly or nitro finish?

@SionynJones

8 ай бұрын

Poly not that it matters in the slightest. Sure nitro feels different but in everyway poly is a superior finish. That's why the majority of guitar manufacturers switched to it when it superseded nitro.

@Junkbox44

8 ай бұрын

@@SionynJonesof course it matters, ploy is a horrible tick sticky substance designed to save money by tight arsed manufactures, nitro is a much better looking and feeling product that doesn’t get sticky and ages beautifully and I’m sure most people would agree

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

its a premium satin gloss finish like on the gibson faded studios

@Junkbox44

8 ай бұрын

@@RWKing1223Thanks 👍🏼

Vintage V100MR Icon, Distressed Lemon Drop is a better buy!

Great Epi have got this one out, esp with Gibson pick-ups. I like the satin finish a lot (I have the Cherry Burst 1959 Epi LP) so all in all a pretty good buy, I guess? A bit steep for an Epi but then so was the recent SG - prices do tend to go up, not down, so to be expected. I WANT the Peter Green thing but am currently deciding whether to get Monty's Bethnal Greens or the Bare Knuckles PG Blues to put into my Cantrell 'Wino'. Maybe my imagination (or wishful thinking) but I suspect the ebony board will add a touch more 'brightness' to the middle position . . . who knows! I have mainly played a 1968 Gibson LP for the last 40+ years so the ebony board and slightly slimmed neck profile on the Wino suits me perfectly. Thanks for the vid - I saw the earlier FB notice that the chappie took down at the request of the dealer and it generated a lot of discussion within that Epi Group. P.S. I couldn't care less about the headstock or truss rod cover etc.

Cheers all! 😃

Is this gonna be £1200-1300 as per their usual recent releases ?

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

If you watched the video until the end, you’d have seen the price for Greeny. Might want to go back and finish the video. 😊

Shrink the logo and tilt slightly upward right!👌🏻

$1499 for this is a deal-breaker. Agreed on the 3-screw trussrod cover!

@Ps3GamerVideos

8 ай бұрын

That's literally half the price of the Gibson LMAO, what you talking about

It looks right.....they’ve finally fixed the shape :)

Overpriced..absolutely. But then looking what the other Epiphone signature guitars list for now, I’m not really surprised or even that bothered.

i got my epi 50's goldtop right as they launched the IBG stuff in early 2020. threw a bigsby on it and put seth lovers in and im so happy with it that i have had really no interest in any of the gabillion 59's they have been churning out. just a great solid les paul, and since its the goldtop, the whole veneer thing is a non issue. and with all that and a case i bought i think its still a better deal than a new or used gibson studio or tribute from where i sit.

The 3 screw trusrode cover is because of the difference of the headstock angle

@nieko3038

8 ай бұрын

Gibson used different angles themselves over the years. It’s the used trussrod and channel.

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

@@nieko3038I’d have to agree with you. I think it’s the type of truss rod and channel they’re making, if anything. I doubt it’s the angle. It’s an interesting video idea for Dave to make, though.

@nieko3038

8 ай бұрын

@@MashaT22 it is. They could make it 2 screw but that would be a bit fragile. I used a piece of clothespin wich fit perfect in the channel of my Burny to convert it to a 2 screw cover. Covered it with black modelplane foil.

The thing is, there is a good chance if you buy the Greeny for 1400, the value will go up like crazy over time vs the standard 59' where the value has dropped a lot

The guy who bought one of these and reviewed it had his post removed?

Save your dough people and but an epi inspired by Gibson lp classic honeyburst, just as good and any changes needed wouldn’t cost as much as one these greenys

Pre-video premiere comment: I was pretty sure this model was coming soon given the late night Epiphone KH-V dropped yesterday. I am waiting to see if Kirk will ever play these Epiphones for actually stage and/or recording situations like Dave Grohl has quite often with his on stage and in several videos online. No idea if it’s a stock 100% stock model that Dave is playing, but I’d like to hope that he’s standing behind it and playing it as it is sold. It seems the V has the Gibson pickups at least for the price. Kirk’s V costs a lot less than I was fearing, so maybe the Greeny model will stay around that price. I will still be shocked if that DG-335 will costs anything less than $1500 because Gibson will try to throw some kinds of crap about the V shape holes costing more to produce among other excuses. I’m still waiting to find out if anyone has reported a solid price on the DG-335 since a certain two knuckleheads on another channel announced a couple of weeks back that unofficial preorders are already being taken. Has anyone tried calling around to see if they can get a price for a pre-order? That would be a great stunt for a video lol. Like a video response to the guys at Casino. I haven’t heard any guitarists online say they were successful at getting their pre-order in. I don’t know which dealer would dare risk taking a pre-order early on the most anticipated guitar arguably EVER. So did anyone here buy an Epi KH-V or plan to get a Greeny? I’m still waiting for a volunteer to spot me for an Epiphone DG-335: 😬🙏🏻😇

@scottbrower9052

8 ай бұрын

Which knuckleheads, Marsha?

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

@@scottbrower9052The guys at Casino Guitars released a video about this a couple of weeks ago. Go have a look. I have no idea where they got their info. I’m not saying they’re wrong, but seems unlikely.

@scottbrower9052

8 ай бұрын

@@MashaT22 I unfollowed those clowns about a year ago.

Greeny isn’t the most famous burst. No doubt the most famous is Jimmy Page’s No 1. Billy Gibbons’s Pearly Gates is up there too.

I just missed out on an Epi Ace Frehley for $400

It's a les paul copy

"Owned by Peter Green and Gary Moore, two of the greatest guitar players ever, and now Kirk Hemmett, good for him" Good for him. Ouch. But correct.

you forgot to mention real mother of pearl inlays usa cts pots switchraft jack and switch correct weight for a 59 and 1 piece neck this is not just a left over epiphone 59. its much better with all the premium parts. its well worth the 1499.

Is this guitar limited

@Eric_01

8 ай бұрын

08:50

I wonder if the headstock change will be permanent change bc I know for sure a lot more people will buy it just bc it is closer to the Gibson

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

cant say its permanent but there is another one coming soon

Apparently its Kirks favourite out of the 3 Greenys released .. high praise if true ...

@MashaT22

8 ай бұрын

Why would he have said that? Where did you hear him say that?

@user-tx8uc3iw3w

8 ай бұрын

@@MashaT22 Hey Masha .. Guitar world had an article .. He went to to say " it's his couch guitar "

@RByrne

8 ай бұрын

He also said he brushes his teeth by holding the toothbrush in place and shaking his head side-to-side.

@user-tx8uc3iw3w

8 ай бұрын

@@RByrne alright man .. I wonder how he Wipes his ........ face 🤪

I can still grab a R9 and I prefer the Burstbuckers anyway

It seems you forgot to mention one spec Dave, from photos it looks like this one will have one piece neck like the Lazarus unlike the regular 1959 Epiphone that is scarf joint. I think that is a honorable mention spec tho it wont justify the new prices. I already did find the Adam Jones LP models and also the latest Joe B SG hard to justify, this one is no different either. I feel like it was nice buying you Epiphone, we had a good run but its over now :D

@IamtheFerryMan

8 ай бұрын

I bought the Adam Jones a few months ago. It's worth every damned penny. It plays just as good as my 2022 LP Classic. It has a chunky 70s neck, and SH6 bridge pickup. The "custom" epiphone pro bucker compliments the Duncan quite nicely. It's just a nice, highly specd epi. I will put some locking tuners on it, but that's the only change. Funny though, while I was waiting for it to arrive, I considered getting the Greeny buckers and swapping them. That's not happening.

@achill3usoverclocking874

8 ай бұрын

@@IamtheFerryMan I believe you, lot of ppl say its an awesome guitar. It's just an Epiphone mindset thing that they should be super affordable. It is not the case anymore, they fetch more than entry level Gibsons. The quality is there but if you wants to sell it the 2nd hand market is tight. It has to compete with used Gibson Studios and Standards/Traditionals. It's up to everyone but I would rather buy a used Gibson than a new highend Epiphone because I don't want to lose money on it if I sell it.

@IamtheFerryMan

8 ай бұрын

@@achill3usoverclocking874 That makes sense for sure. I spend a lot of time buying selling and trading on Craigslist and There's an AJ on there for $1000. I think they should lower the price but I don;t really plan on selling mine. Guitars are a lot like women for me. I know within the first couple of times we get together if I will be keeping it around long term.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

@@IamtheFerryMan just wait till the new epi adam jones comes out soon lol if you like the one you got your gonna love the one coming

Using the Gibson headstock on the higher end Epiphones is long overdue. Hopefully they will use it on more models.

@RWKing1223

8 ай бұрын

gibson finally doing what fender has been doing for years

Epiphone was to have gibson headstock on the mij line

The price in euro. 😮 Epiphone. It's near the price of a Gibson tribute or on par.

Buckdancers of Maine posted one on Facebook ,but has been deleted

$1400 much too much for a epiphone.

Yeah... somehow, I don't think Gibson understands why people buy epiphone guitars. Though what really baffles me is why Gibson is allowed go make signature guitars for a guy who isn't even on their roster.

Lol, the way you described the ownership of the “Greeny” was hilarious the moment you landed on Kirks name lol. I feel the same way because of the 2 iconic players that owned it. Don’t get me wrong he is playing it or fooling us, maybe it’s that 50k Custom Shop copy lol. It’s cool that Epiphone got into the mix, no surprise on that though.

@remenant7372

8 ай бұрын

I respect Kirk owning it because he actually uses it and doesn’t just keep it on a wall or in a safe or something

@williamtm1965

8 ай бұрын

Kirk played Greeny during Metallica's concert in August 2023

@AdamManley7

8 ай бұрын

@@williamtm1965the fact that we have to mention whenever he actually plays it vs it being his main gigging guitar like the other owners were shows that the value is lost on him

@vmx23

8 ай бұрын

@@AdamManley7it was kept by a collector for a long time after Gary Moore died. If not because of Kirk Hammett it would have stayed that way. I am thankful that the guitar continues being used and that Joe Bonamassa didn’t get his hands on it.

Epiphone Greeny or best used Gibson Les Paul at $1500

How hard was that now put that headstock on all epiphones . I would bet epiphone sales would probably go up at least 25 percent across the board if they just put that headstock on it. Put that headstock shape on an Epiphone LP Custom for 1000 and shut up and take my money.

Completely pointless issue by Epiphone - it's like buying a Dacia Duster and pretending you've got a Range Rover! 🙄

How much!?! Gibson is ridiculous. If you want a good Les Paul for not-a-lot of money, just by an Agile or some other knockoff MIK.

Yer becoming tiresome with these "please give me $$" marketing BS ploys....

I'm disappointed. Epiphone, you made a nice top veneer on "Lazarus" but why you made this to "Greeny" it look like my 250 $ guitar, you just do same again like your old product, come on !! 🙄🙄🙄

gibson embracing the chibson lol.

Chibsons are better and cheaper than epiphone

If you want a beast of a guitar at a lower price buy a PRS. Epis are junk for the price. They’re junk period