Ep. 287 | Empty Inside (with Jennette McCurdy)

Joshua and Ryan talk about that empty feeling we all experience from time to time-and the things we do when we attempt to fill the void-with podcaster, writer, and director Jennette McCurdy. Watch “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at / theminimalists
Questions answered in this episode:
00:00 Why did Jennette start her podcast?
04:00 What is the disconnect between our higher quality of life in this modern age and our happiness?
05:55 How does society and culture influence disorders?
09:25 Why do we believe celebrities’ lives are better than ours?
10:33 Why do others often insist we not give up our “successful” careers?
13:40 What are the three different types of relationships?
15:43 How do we appropriately manage expectations in relationships?
19:35 I think minimalism can help many of my loved ones find meaning in their lives and avoid the void, but I find it difficult to communicate it to them effectively so they see and understand the benefits and find it more attractive than the rat race they’re in-any tips?
20:02 What is the elevator pitch for minimalism?
23:24 How do you address the shame that sometimes accompanies minimalism?
24:00 How is power the opposite of freedom?
25:14 Was Jennette shamed for walking away from her acting career?
26:32 Does confidence come from consistency?
28:09 Filling our voids with stuff isn’t good, but what is good-what should we replace that consumption urge with that is meaningful?
33:07 What is the “suckhole”?
36:02 Why is Jennette’s podcast titled Empty Inside?
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  • @Antistylestyleclub
    @Antistylestyleclub3 жыл бұрын

    She has the perfect voice for a podcast, and what she chooses to talk about is also pretty good 😊🧡

  • @albertabramson3157

    @albertabramson3157

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, she makes Empty Inside so good. There's so much going on upstairs, I could listen to Jennette all day.

  • @cristina9753
    @cristina97533 жыл бұрын

    You didn’t waste your life you did what you could to cope 🌘🌗🌖

  • @franktesta1231
    @franktesta12313 жыл бұрын

    Watching her grow up on ICarly and seeing her now is amazing. She is blessed and smart for going after what she wants most and not succumbing to what others think she should do.

  • @gregpainter6885
    @gregpainter68853 жыл бұрын

    Jennette is an extremely intelligent young lady.

  • @ericrainey8224

    @ericrainey8224

    3 жыл бұрын

    That new iCarly just ain't the same without Sam and Gibby

  • @lovetotravel780
    @lovetotravel7803 жыл бұрын

    Your words resonate with me. Ryan says Fill the void with acceptance, not stuff. Joshua says Happiness is only uncovered it is never acquired. We presuppose the void is bad, the emptiness is bad. We try to fill the void and it widens. Respect and appreciate the emptiness. Thank you Joshua and Ryan for this reminder. I am trying to continuously embrace the space in various areas of my life.

  • @rowddyone3570
    @rowddyone35703 жыл бұрын

    I understand the Mom thing, my husband and I were able to pay our house off at age 36, become completely debt free so I can quit work and stay at home since I have chronic back pain. I am a disappointment in her eyes, especially since I graduated from college and essentially wasting my life. But at the end you have to do what's best for you, sometimes people family is the hardest to deal with.

  • @nvp9095
    @nvp90953 жыл бұрын

    The disconnect is the chase, the chase for happiness!! Hey, you can tweet that podcast Sean

  • @somewaltz
    @somewaltz3 жыл бұрын

    Good episode. I remember watching her on iCarly thinking her life must’ve been terrific, but it just goes to show you can never know the struggles a person goes thru on their own.

  • @jmdines1
    @jmdines13 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of the quote "The pursuit of happiness becomes the source of our unhappiness." - Dan Harris, 10% Happier.

  • @PrestoJacobson

    @PrestoJacobson

    Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed his podcast until it got filled with ads!

  • @sarahlockridge7879
    @sarahlockridge78793 жыл бұрын

    I'm in recovery from an eating disorder. Absolutely about control. Thank you for sharing!

  • @amandasymon4363
    @amandasymon4363 Жыл бұрын

    I’m ashamed to have to admit that I find it difficult to be left alone too long with my own thoughts/feelings - I feel compelled to have to escape from my thoughts/feelings by going out amongst people. This prevents me from being able to settle down and improve my art. I then berate myself and so it goes on. Filling the void - You’ve given me a lot to ponder 👌

  • @chipchap5808
    @chipchap58083 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite podcasts so far and they are all great of course! I feel empty inside with my life and where everything is going but I think it is good to hear that I am not alone with this, that even people that have "everything" you thought would need to fill your own void still feel empty inside. Really opens your eyes. Thank you!

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz3 жыл бұрын

    When I feel empty inside I write poetry. When I feel happy I write poetry. When I feel bored I write poetry. When I feel love I write poetry. When I feel tired I sleep -- then I write poetry! Life IS poetry if you let it. Poetry is expressing yourself. Good or bad, it's the expression that matters most. You cannot be happy if you don't express yourself. Otherwise, you will always be looking for other things to make you happy.

  • @liisaelts7522
    @liisaelts75223 жыл бұрын

    I bought dolls. I knew I did it, because it was the only part of my life that nobody else wanted to know about (grownup buying dolls-ewwww). It was that one thing, that was mine, it didn't relate to my real life problems. Not like a 100, we're talking about 10 dolls :D But last year, I just stopped. They filled a need I no longer feel. I still have them, they're my safety net, sort of, but honestly, it feels good to not feel the urge to get new dolls just because I could buy them. Now I make clothes for them I can sell and earn extra for my actual goal and it feels good. But it was interesting to me how it took me years to actually stop with buying them, because I thought I did it due my extremely stressful work, which I quit 5 years back but the feeling out of sorts didn't go away. Now though, after getting past the loneliness the endless working put me in, I no longer feel the need for that replacement therapy.

  • @skellzzed8255
    @skellzzed82553 жыл бұрын

    I love chats with Jennette. I'd like to see more of this. If I could chat with people like you every week, I probably would

  • @perrimeno
    @perrimeno3 жыл бұрын

    "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then." --Bob Seger, 'Against the Wind'

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't being a minimalist just another way to justify being lazy? As a procrastinator, I practice minimalism on a daily basis. I don't fear the void, I embrace it. Therefore, I am not empty inside, I merely have ample space to share. Sharing is the one thing that I don't want to minimize.

  • @user-bt9sr7jl5m
    @user-bt9sr7jl5m3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great podcast. It always seems as if I am sitting and chatting right next to you as you are so genuine and speaking from your heart. Your words about having a void and accepting it instead of trying to fill it are so true. We often don’t live in a moment and we try to chase after happiness without realising that we can choose to be happy right now and here. Thank you guys, you bring so much positivity, energy and wisdom.

  • @Kelly-gc1gg
    @Kelly-gc1gg3 жыл бұрын

    It’s “ver-oh-NIQUE” btw from a girl with an absolutely unpronounceable last name. This is one of the best episodes ever! Jeannette had so much authenticity and genuine wisdoms to share. Thank you all three!

  • @RubySlays297
    @RubySlays2973 жыл бұрын

    I love this! My daughter loved watching replays of Sam & Cat last year (we are in Australia). I just realised how I recognised Jennette’s voice ❤️ so nice to see you looking happy and gorgeous x

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph89583 жыл бұрын

    I think its great that Jennette is coming forward to share her experiences as an actor especially as a child star And you do learn a thing or two from her too

  • @christine8754
    @christine87543 жыл бұрын

    Every time i listen to your podcasts , i get motivated to do things ( cleaning, exercise, etc) 😊

  • @Hopeyj103
    @Hopeyj103 Жыл бұрын

    This is a phenomenal conversation. All of you are brilliant.

  • @hannahmiller5515
    @hannahmiller55153 жыл бұрын

    Is the void just boredom? Like maybe it's a sign that we are a little too ocd with "approved" things for safety and manageability (control), but something totally new or a totally new approach to an old thing could help. One thing that helps boredom could be doing something that feels actually challenging or a bit unpleasant, maybe that addresses our weaknesses rather than building on strengths? Idk but I think for me it has to do with boredom

  • @jenheadjen
    @jenheadjen3 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciated this. Thank you all for sharing these ideas.

  • @floridabusinessemail9676
    @floridabusinessemail96763 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic podcast! Thank you for your valuable content

  • @isaacseabra5669
    @isaacseabra56693 жыл бұрын

    the microphone blocks the view of the mouth of the guest. it should be lowered a little. i feel like when we listen to people as we watch them, we like to see them actually talk.

  • @biancalouisefuentes9776
    @biancalouisefuentes97763 жыл бұрын

    Jennette is so great. Love the topic and the episode! 🥰

  • @carylmaluping9632
    @carylmaluping96323 жыл бұрын

    This is great thanks for this ❤️

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, Jennette, you don't need me to tell you, BUT you are beautiful. The problem with most people is that they always focus on 'me' and what 'I' want and 'I' desire. 'Me' feeds off itself. Everything revolves around the ego. When we focus on others then we are actually enriching ourselves because we forget 'me.'

  • @luzharo876
    @luzharo8763 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed listening this discussion.thank you🙂

  • @orphanedhanyou
    @orphanedhanyou3 жыл бұрын

    While we may have different illnesses, more chronic illness, we most definitely also are healthier than ever and less at risk of serious injury and death. In the past you may not have gotten to the point an illness was chronic because you were already dead.

  • @TPA-fj9if
    @TPA-fj9if3 жыл бұрын

    Morning Early Simpleton Birds!

  • @CrocaHead

    @CrocaHead

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Chirp, chirp!*

  • @jasmincastillo8686
    @jasmincastillo86863 жыл бұрын

    Great conversation

  • @BE-bs8oe
    @BE-bs8oe3 жыл бұрын

    You both know how very muchisímo your discussions are appreciated over here in Europe. But to put the record straight, one cannot really seriously state that we've never been as much ill as in 2021. Each decade sees increasing lifeexpectancy , cancer is now a name but probably pests, polio, tuberculosis hid loads of other illnesses (some of which maybe were what we now call cancers...) Imagine open toilets running down the streets, no sewage, no bodywashing (as a minimalist I totally subscribe to the reasonable , low impact,amount of washing), in the Middle Ages or today... Tanning activities producing foulwater, toxic waste for centuriessnd still as for today in many places on Earth. I guess there's no such thing as "more" or "less", each reached its own health tolls and issues to deal with. Santé et Cheers 🥂

  • @mariethesizzler
    @mariethesizzler3 жыл бұрын

    Ughhhh I love her!!! I've always loved her 😀 hope you're doing amazing, gorgeous

  • @Saffron.Aerowyn_07
    @Saffron.Aerowyn_073 жыл бұрын

    Ever since I discovered you guys from the Minimalism Documentary...you have inspired me and captured my heart....whenever I listen and watch you, it feels like I am among good friends. Keep up the good work... Love from Texas. ❤

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz3 жыл бұрын

    I've said it before but you cannot have success without failure. I ought to know because I have a lot of success at failure and have practically perfected it. Therefore, failure is actually an accomplished skill. What can I say? It's a talent that has been honed by thousands of hours of practice.

  • @yeshacasseydoes9242
    @yeshacasseydoes92423 жыл бұрын

    I love this

  • @Rebeccavd92
    @Rebeccavd923 жыл бұрын

    Jenette, only now you as Sam. It's great to get to know the real you! And your great and inspiring! Wish you all the best😘

  • @Kapplerartbloomingdale
    @Kapplerartbloomingdale2 жыл бұрын

    I look up and truly respect you.

  • @raymondcunanan1135
    @raymondcunanan11353 жыл бұрын

    I’m a fan from Icarly days! Just discovered this channel and can relate

  • @scorpio7938
    @scorpio79383 жыл бұрын

    Great listening and your guest is very interesting and beautiful

  • @xoxomandy101
    @xoxomandy1013 жыл бұрын

    Our joy is found in God alone 😊

  • @kathrynwatters1289
    @kathrynwatters12893 жыл бұрын

    Super once again.👍

  • @adrianaalba1556
    @adrianaalba15563 жыл бұрын

    I love this episod i'm learning english is posible i that will be write bad, but i love your content , you are fantastics, my live chanded thanks to you. Hugs from Colombia

  • @AnnaKatherineYT
    @AnnaKatherineYT3 жыл бұрын

    A collab I never saw coming

  • @VEGANzUmebies

    @VEGANzUmebies

    3 жыл бұрын

    I grew up watching her from ICarly didn't even recognize her at first

  • @ozziekhoo

    @ozziekhoo

    3 жыл бұрын

    They have done an episode with her before this one!

  • @misssicily100
    @misssicily1003 жыл бұрын

    Joshua you are so smart

  • @misssicily100

    @misssicily100

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would love to talk to you maybe be on your podcast.

  • @orphanedhanyou
    @orphanedhanyou3 жыл бұрын

    I think a huge problem with the chase for happiness is the obsession with power. Not just what is mentioned here, that those in power are the problem, but the system that means those with less power fight in the rat race to get more and/or demonize those with more because it's very easy to resent anyone with more than you. It doesn't matter how much you have, there is always someone with more and you "know" they don't "deserve it" but you do.

  • @petitscarabee7662
    @petitscarabee76623 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @RecycleChic

    @RecycleChic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Starting @ 30: Ryan uncovers the meaning of life!

  • @cristal4142
    @cristal41423 жыл бұрын

    Love ❤️ you guys

  • @Mondlerrrr
    @Mondlerrrr3 жыл бұрын

    I loved her growing up and have followed her for years. She stopped hiding her real life and seems to be taking her life back. That’s amazing, but you can tell she still has a lot to work through, especially the way she talks about certain topics. There seems to be a lot of bitterness still inside her, though I supposed that takes time. I wish her well.

  • @oc4029
    @oc40293 жыл бұрын

    Man, I wish there was a new minimalist podcast every day XD

  • @blueschild61
    @blueschild613 жыл бұрын

    When was this uploaded? Did KZread stop posting the upload dates?

  • @elisabethryder4719

    @elisabethryder4719

    2 жыл бұрын

    May 11 2021 is what I see.

  • @blueschild61

    @blueschild61

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elisabethryder4719 Hmm. I've been using KZread on the same laptop for about eight years now, and all of a sudden the upload date is gone. I find it very helpful for relevance of the content. I know that this probably seems very stupid to you, but where do you see the date and what type of device do you use? Thank you for replying anyway.

  • @elisabethryder4719

    @elisabethryder4719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blueschild61 That's not stupid at all. Though I was never much of a fan of history, I still knew it was very important. I was on my phone and found it by expanding the details of the video. I see it generally at the top next to total views and likes. Hope that helps.

  • @juliawashburn675
    @juliawashburn6752 жыл бұрын

    What happened to the song you were going to share?! I'm watching on KZread and you said you were going tp play a song, but I wasn't in the video. :( This was the second episode that did that.

  • @TheMinimalistsPodcast

    @TheMinimalistsPodcast

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check out the show notes. KZread flags videos that contain music that we don’t own.

  • @admominadmomin7443
    @admominadmomin74433 жыл бұрын

    my BIGGEST FEAR IS SHE BEING unhappy.. HOPE WITH ALL MY HEART THAT SHE'S ALWAYS HAPPY. I just cant see my childhood CRUSH AND FUNNY person go through such bad conditions.

  • @Kapplerartbloomingdale
    @Kapplerartbloomingdale2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers

  • @Crambull
    @Crambull3 жыл бұрын

    _Ayy, it's Sam!_

  • @vicinityfpv1932
    @vicinityfpv19323 жыл бұрын

    Josh looking real good over there. Must've been lifting weights.

  • @griseldag8813
    @griseldag88132 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the reason Jeanette wants to me the taker in intimate relationships is because she grew up being the one everyone would take from, and maybe she keeps her friends at a distance to avoid future takers from emerging??

  • @principissodalis6864
    @principissodalis68643 жыл бұрын

    Good podcast, but why we can't see the half of her face?..

  • @roboallen5170
    @roboallen51703 жыл бұрын

    everyone’s missing the whole perspective… the new icarly isnt even icarly no more without sam.. Ever since the beginning it was always Sam, Freddy, and Carly…. Now its just another episode of Friends… i really pray that one day Sam, Freddy, and Carly will reunite again

  • @elijahhill6602

    @elijahhill6602

    3 жыл бұрын

    And YOU are missing the whole perspective. Jeanette has my respect in this story. She has the right to refuse to be on the show. Regardless of how massive popular the Sam character is, it doesn’t take the fact she was treated poorly and not taken as a human being, when she’s treated only because she was on TV. Not to mention the substantial amounts of treatment Dan Schneider put her through. What she did took balls. And I understand that. You should too.

  • @HalleSweetPea
    @HalleSweetPea2 жыл бұрын

    The void is filled by gratitude for God.

  • @xSoporific1
    @xSoporific13 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @christine8754
    @christine87543 жыл бұрын

    “watch this documentary” me 😅

  • @Kapplerartbloomingdale
    @Kapplerartbloomingdale2 жыл бұрын

    Ednos almost killed me last week

  • @treyasmr653
    @treyasmr6532 жыл бұрын

    Hi

  • @yeshacasseydoes9242
    @yeshacasseydoes92423 жыл бұрын

    That is a perfect hair girl😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️ I would die for,for that😍😍

  • @Crambull
    @Crambull3 жыл бұрын

    Jennette is my favorite (probably only) post-Disney celeb.

  • @ericrainey8224

    @ericrainey8224

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nickelodeon

  • @kayleekidman4751

    @kayleekidman4751

    Жыл бұрын

    Nickelodeon but yeah. She rocks

  • @bumblebee803
    @bumblebee8033 жыл бұрын

    Ryan, I've heard of the "suck-hole" too.

  • @veronicafortunaveronica
    @veronicafortunaveronica2 ай бұрын

    I feel you should try inviting Taylor Swift to these kind of episodes 💡

  • @EmmaHelmut
    @EmmaHelmut3 жыл бұрын

    Its a God void but that is an unpopular answer today in this day and age

  • @chesterjames5628
    @chesterjames56283 жыл бұрын

    I hope she and Miranda are still friends 🥺🙏

  • @angie7486
    @angie74863 жыл бұрын

    You need to marie kondo the justin Bieber music y’all

  • @skellzzed8255
    @skellzzed82553 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if a god in space was a minimalist. We would have a problem. Black holes everywhere draining everything

  • @elizabethdowell5382
    @elizabethdowell5382 Жыл бұрын

    Dude dissing monogamy, but is married 😂Polyamory is animalistic