Enhanced Sound on NES Classic Edition / Castlevania 3 Comparison
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A few games used enhanced sound like Gimmick, Langrige Point on Famicom and more, but you can hear the difference in Castevania 3. If you loved the Castevania 3 soundtrack as I did, hear what we missed out on in the Famicom version - and now experience it when you load it up on your NES Classic Edition.
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This version is now included in the latest update of the *Castlevania Anniversary Collection* . Just played it and I was impressed by the audio quality.
@mangaas
Жыл бұрын
Is it the full famicon version? Easier difficulty and changes to Grant?
@zerobyte802
2 ай бұрын
In case anyone is wondering, the answer is yes. Grant is OP in the J version.
Good lord that soundtrack on the Famicom is so much better when you put it up 1 to 1.
@tonymoretti2347
2 жыл бұрын
U.s.a u.s.a!
Beginning Nes: 1:24 Famicom: 1:50 The difference is HUGE
Love that enhanced sound chip!
@sabin1981
7 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that, much like the JP Master System, it was removed in the western territory versions of the machine. Some games sound absolutely *incredible* with the FM Synth on the MS.
@FrankieViturello
7 жыл бұрын
Those awesome bassy tones in the Famicom version are to die for. My only complaint about the Fami version is that Grant is WAY too easy to use with his unlimited knives.
@monkeyabattoir8501
7 жыл бұрын
famicon is almost genesis level of sound.
@loveandrockets4life
7 жыл бұрын
I thought it rivaled Harmony of Dissonance on the GBA.
@etienneamien
6 жыл бұрын
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games does the NES / SNES mini emulate the enhanced mod chip with the Famicom roms ?
The famicom version sounds so much better.
@TheLastLineLive
7 жыл бұрын
TheCompletionist indeed, it's also slightly easier too.
@The_Str4nger
6 жыл бұрын
and uncensored
@IncessantWake
5 жыл бұрын
@@The_Str4nger uncensored sound? AHAHAHAHA
@Apo458
5 жыл бұрын
@@IncessantWake Uncensored graphics
@MacAves
4 жыл бұрын
It almost sounds like a SNES song, but less quality.
The Famicom version sounds about 1000 times better. So can the Nes classic mini also do the Japanese famciom enhanced sound somehow? Perhaps the chip could be emulated?
@gabnrami
2 жыл бұрын
Yes the chip can be emulated and also the nes can reproduce the same audio.. the hardware is the same, the problem back then was that the nes has 72pin vs the famicom 60pin, And in the us nes the pins are not fully bridged so its not possible for the console to read the audio of the cartidge unless you simple mod the console with one or two cables
@bigbox141
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Nintendo's emulator on the NES Classic doesn't support Famicom ROMs after testing with a Hackchi-cracked NES Mini. However, when installing an external emulator such as RetroArch, it works quite fine. I've been playing Akumajou Densetsu on RetroArch through the NES Classic for a few years now and every time I return it's a blast
If you don't like that anti-epilepsy filter on the NES Classic emulator, which kicks in on games like this and Ghosts n Goblins and Ninja Gaiden that have flashing onscreen, you can disable it easily in the hakchi2 settings.
@Vicefromkof
2 жыл бұрын
Oooh so it's wanted, I always thought it was my tv doing wack
the enhanced sound chip makes it sound a lot like the PC-Engine/Turbografx music!
that is fuckin crazy some of my earliest memories are of Castlevania 3 and it's...it's like I've had bubbles in my ears and they're being taken out, it's an actual tingle, that is wiiild
I found a site a while back where somebody figured out how to build a version of the game that can actually use those extra sound channels on a standard NES toaster. It involved attaching a cable to the cart with a herm plug that goes in to the audio out port, and then hooking the NES up using AV cables.
@Shauntendo64
7 жыл бұрын
TBustah all you need to do is attach one wire between two pins on the audio board, and have audio passage on the 72 pin converter
Such an improvement. There are a couple of tracks I like better on the NES version, but thay boils down to nostalgia. Their Famicom counterparts are done much better.
HOW DID YOU GET THE THING WITH THE CARTRIDGE ON IT
just my 2 cents but the Famicom version sounds so much cooler. The both sound good but I do like the bass on the famicom.
How did you get castle vania 3 on it
Does this work on stock emulator?
Holy Vampire Crap!!! The Famicon version!!!! Seriously Im looking for that soundtrack right NOW!
@theoneTMoney
4 жыл бұрын
search for akumajou densetsu ost
@matrix91234
Жыл бұрын
If you own Castlevania Anniversary Collection, then you can get it there
@mittensmacks9239
Жыл бұрын
@@matrix91234 Thanks!
Solid comparison. I own an original copy of Castlevania 1 for NES, and seeing/hearing the differences has me going the route of buying a refurbished NES as opposed to the NES Classic. I'd rather experience the original, even at the expense of like thousands of games built in. Still a solid product though.
So can you get that famicom audio enhancement in those games if you play them on a everdrive n8 on a regular ntsc nes? What about a ntsc rgb modded top loader and the everdrive?
@xyzzy-dv6te
7 жыл бұрын
You have to mod a NES to hear expansion audio on it.
I had wondered if the Nes Mini had VRC6 support. Apparently it does! What about Lagrange Point and the VRC7 chip?
@thehalfinstream1630
5 жыл бұрын
It does not, without modification (software), and Lagrange Point works.
famicom for the win
Famicom is not only brighter but the fm sound chip makes it worth playing in surround sound heh
No competition, the Famicom version sounds much better. The VRC6 chip does wonders and makes the Famicom version of Castlevania 3 probably the best sounding game ever on an 8-bit system.
@chabelito1992
7 жыл бұрын
Kelvin Kwok Yin Chan listen to Lagrange point for famicom with VRC7 chip. it's amazing
@xyzzy-dv6te
7 жыл бұрын
If you don't exactly know, VRC6 adds 3 sound channels (2 square and 1 sawtooth). The NES and Famicom without any audio expansion have 5 channels: 2 square, 1 triangle, 1 noise and 1 DPCM (which plays samples, but was rarely used because samples take up a lot of space).
@hyrule9165
7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Gimmick is great as well :)
@ashkirby8896
6 жыл бұрын
AND THE LIKES OF FAMITRACKER AND 0CC-FAMITRACKER ARE PROOF THAT THE FAMICOM HAS THE MORE SUPERIOR SOUND.
@philramone3905
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds better yes, but I would argue in the arrangement the strings are pushed a little behind the bass, when that 'violin' section should be leading all day
I think I actually prefer the NES version over the enchanced Famicom one. It just sounds more clear, if that makes any sense.
@TommieHansen
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The problem i have is that they change the bassline to a "saw" pattern instead of the smoother "sine" pattern causing quite a large difference. They could have enhanced it without actually changing the type of instrument used. That would have been much better. It's ofc noticable that the enhanced has better audio but better audio is not the same as a better mix.
@ElysaraCh
4 жыл бұрын
@@TommieHansen the sawtooth wave sounds absolutely bonkers good when used right, the real problem is that the production VRC6 chips had a bug that doubled the volume of the sawtooth, causing the bass to overpower the rest of the music a little bit.
@matrix91234
Жыл бұрын
Oof i think my problem with NES is how grating it is. But if you like it then more power to you!
@jorgitoislamico4224
Жыл бұрын
@@matrix91234 You don't have to apologise to dysgenic people
Great, now i cant unhear the famicom version. My childhood was a lie.
so which one is suppose to be better? I can't tell?
@ItsMisterBluray
7 жыл бұрын
Sonny Huynh famicom it has a special chip, plus the disk system is awesome.
Wow that's sweet
So does the NES Classic have all three Castlevania Games?
@GamerMinilla
6 жыл бұрын
Only the original and Simon's Quest. Dracula's Curse is sorely missed from the collection.
I always accepted the nes version untill i discovered the famicom version, i was sooo shocked about it’s warmer sound, i couldn’t believe that i liked the nes version, it comparion, the nes version sounds very rawish ,so rawisch in fact that it will make you believe as if 1990 was an rawisch age, Now what if nintendo had kept the ext sound pins in the nes,would they had allowed konomi to put their vrc6 chip over to the western version or would konami still have been forced to use the mmc5 chip and still had to alter those tunes for mmc5 chip with different extra soundchannels to make it sound different for the western version , We can only speculate, sure nintendo could,ve make a expansion module for supported nes games to utelize those ext soundpins that way,but sadly they never did,DAMNIT.
The American soundtrack is much more listenable, those extra channels doing low end buzz aren't all that great. But to each their own
@keyladbeats
Ай бұрын
said no one ever.
The difference is like night and day especially in the scene where Trevor is praying.
Mmmmm dat VRC6 chip
Well, while Famicom SOUNDS better, NES is very, VERY clear. When you use headphones to listen to Famicom version, it's an earrape, because sometimes the bass of VRC6 overpowers the melodies and other great details, it starts to sound annoyingly buzzy. NES, on the other hand, is clear, crisp and godDAMN that arpeggio in Rising!
@yes2sdiomain335
3 жыл бұрын
nah dog the famicom version is like objectively better LMFAO. nothing sounds like earrape at all.
I agree with the sentiment that the Famicom sound chip is better than the NES sound chip, however sometimes simplicity is the best course. I like the NES version better. More is not always better. For instance, the Sony sound chip in the SNES was WAY better than the sound chip in the Megadrive (Sega Genesis,) however there were a few games (VERY few) where the sound was actually better on the Genesis versions.
These are on the nes classic?
@RGT85
7 жыл бұрын
You can hack it. :P
@Shauntendo64
7 жыл бұрын
RGT 85 yea I know 😛 was wondering if the nes mini was playing the enhanced sound famicom version
Awesome soundtrack in famicom version
Famicon's bae ❤️
It’s an absolute bummer that nintendo didn’t had included castlevania 3 on it,why castlevania 2 ??? It was ver unpopular, also theres no donkeykong 3, so eventrough possesing a nes classic mini is cool,but it just feels incomplete in my oppinion.
The filter used in the default Famicom emulator in Cluster´s is in my opinion pretty horrible. Try using PCM720´s modded cores instead. Also gives you support for Turbografx, PCE and Atari 2600 games. github.com/pcm720/retroarch-clover/releases
The Famicom version sounds better and would sound better regardless if you removed the VRC6 and replaced it with just a triangle bass channel on the NES hardware.
@brianjacobson1248
4 жыл бұрын
The triangle bass wave did not have the power to do the CVIII compositions justice. The music was clearly composed with the VRC6 chip in mind I especially dont like how the triangle wave glissandos in the prelude, destiny, and evergreen.
I dunno, I think they are both great haha
I do love the VRC6. I own the Famicom version on cartridge and modded my NES for enhanced audio. I paid a good $90 for that game. I do believe you can get it cheaper now though.
@arestes
4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Does modding an NES make it completely play all of the famicom channels as if it were a real famicom?
@SuperHamsterGaming
4 жыл бұрын
@@arestes yes. I made a video about it but it was low quality so I removed it. I might make another one later
Famicom😮 amazing
woOOooOOoow!!
famicom is better
God, the VRC6 has never sounded so gothic,,
what do you recommend a Raspberry Pi zero or at Raspberry Pi 3 I really wanted to get the NES classic edition but it's very hard to get so I am not waiting anymore
Famicom had an extra sound chip compared to the NES.
While the Famicom version sounds better, i will always prefer the NES version.
I like the nes music better
I so wish they would update the graphics a bit. Maybe to a little better than SOTN. Don't change the camera angle or game play. Just make it prettier. And include Catlevania 2, the best one of them, IMHO.
To honor the nes is psychotic, I thought it was because they didn't know 🤨 but evidently the psychosis is still going strong hahaha wtf
Nes sounds way better. Way too much static noise going off on famicom. The begging on NES is the GOAT.
the VRC6 chip is incredible. We did a whole episode comparing the two versions on PixelTunes Radio, and we would discuss and vote for our favorite versions of the track. while a lot of the tracks are way better on the Famicom version, it wasn't a complete slam dunk.
Famicom Japan is better because this is original way
Famicom es mejor
Gotta love “The Legend of the Devil’s Castle” or “Akumajou Densetsu”. Superb Famicom version.