I just spent 2.5 months and 13,500 km riding around Europe on a bike with similar horsepower, torque and weight (an ‘07 R1200GSA). Even the same Pirelli tires. Looking back I think this Experia would have been the perfect bike for that trip. During the fun sections (like the two weeks in the Dolomiti) I would only do 200 to 250 km a day, so could do it on one charge and then charge up at the hotel overnight waking up to a full tank the next morning. On longer distance days on the autobahn there are loads of DC fast chargers at most rest stops so stopping for a cappuccino and croissant would be enough time to charge the bike. Yeah, this could be my next bike very easily.

@visordown

Жыл бұрын

Well worth trying one out if you get the chance, in terms of riding capability it's truly outstanding! Great fun, and the roll-on torque is outrageous at any speed on this. Let us know if you try it out.

£27k bargain 🤣 Now, where to plug it in as I don't have a garage, like most people 🤔

“£27,000, If you’ve got the money, that’s a bargain!” How does that make sense?

@theonlyredspecial

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure it does. Lol. Especially when you factor in the bikes you can get for £27k!

@Banditmanuk

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to write just that. Ridiculous! No way is that a bargain or a touring motorcycle. Must be plenty of riders who pull a 300 or 400 mile day to get out on tour to somewhere like the Alps.

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is in comparison to other similar leading bikes. In the US at least, the Ducati Multistrata is actually more expensive than the Energica Experia. Unlike cars, in the EV motorcycles, price parity against comparable ICE motorcycles has been achieved.

@theonlyredspecial

2 жыл бұрын

@@OrlandoRick you could argue the Multistrada is a proper touring bike with a good range between tank Fill ups mind you. Can’t see anyone paying £25k in uk for a Ducati Multistrada wanting this. These ev bikes are ideal commuter bikes in big cities. That’s about it right now. Unless I’m missing something.

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

@@theonlyredspecial Well, I used to own a KTM 1290 SA and my wife had a KTM 1290 SDGT. Summers were a pain in the SouthEast USA due to the bikes being so hot. We test drove Energicas in 2019 and sold our KTMs and bought Energicas (same price). Haven't looked back ever since. Will be upgrading to the Experia. Most of our riding is touring. We've had to get creative at times, but the benefits have definitely outweighted the negatives for us. We were THE target audience (people buying $20k+ sport touring & adventure bikes) and we have loved our conversion. I can't speak for others, but for us this has worked our perfectly.

"These internal combustion engines are ungodly, new-fangled contraptions; they're too darned expensive for my blood, and they go against all what's natural, righteous and good, besides - they ain't got no soul, not like my favourite mare, Molly-Anne." My great-grandfather, probably, c.1890

@lonniecross4698

2 жыл бұрын

They’re were electric cars in the beginning. This battle has been fought before.

@thenormandy659

Жыл бұрын

Wow really??? We had all of the same technology we have today, AND those electric cars weren't one off gimmick cars that were built with the full funding of a major company with the express intention of bringing them to market? What? None of that is true? You are strawmanning an entire field of technological development just so you can avoid using your brain for another day? Damn. Can't win with some people I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Pricing in the US is competitive with high-spec Germans and Italians, as is the performance and build levels. And there is an extensive charging network throughout the West, in particular. More range, the better, but this is really close, and the perks: super-responsive/endless torque, charge at home/at the motel/at hundreds of stations (finally); NO trips to gas god-awful stations/MUCH lower running costs/quiet (yeah, I know, you're going to miss those lovely ICE noises...but you won't after you hear everything but your bike), far less to break, and ... they DON'T EVER smell bad! We're "that" close to real-world ranges for more affordable bikes, but the Experia can definitely take the place of a big Beemer for those day trips right now.

@kolezzz

Жыл бұрын

And no vibration! The vibration of my hypermotard is really annoying.

Great review, except that curios comment about ZF Sachs suspension. You "havent heard about them before much at all"? Seriously?

I just came back from a motorcycle holiday and I would not want to go electric just yet. The secluded places you visit on a proper touring trip lack DC and type 2 charging facilities. In fact, I think it is already challenging for a gas bike to tour in the middle of nowhere and to plan your fill ups and find a gas station.

Thanks for the video. The bike looks good and I think it demonstrates that electric motorbikes are slowly getting to the point where they're actually usable. Energica is doing great stuff. The lack of a hand brake is pretty ridiculous, though and represents a major design flaw at that price. And the price is around the same as a Multistrada, and I suppose that's the market that Energica is aiming at. Sachs suspension are also used on BMW's GS btw.

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

None of the previous models have hand brakes and in practice it hasn't proved to be really needed (I'm an owner). Bikes are heavy enough that they settle in with kickstand alone. However, there are several third-party and relatively inexpensive add-on parking brakes that will do the job for those who feel they need them.

@marcbee1234

Жыл бұрын

@@OrlandoRick Hopefully they start including a parking brake soon.

@OrlandoRick

Жыл бұрын

@@marcbee1234 Haven't needed one in the years I've owned one nor have any of the other owners i know. And we ride in the mountains often. But if you are really paranoid you can buy a $2 piece of 8" double sided Velcro and hold the brakes closed when you park.

When the price come down on these bikes they will be perfect, I commute into central London and they'll be perfect.

This is actually the best segmen for electric motorcycle, it's heavy(just like big bike), low vibration, Big Torque, and huge battery.

Surprised the presenter hadn't heard of Sachs suspension then mentions the Multistrsada as a visual comparison. The ducati multistrada L twin 1200 dvt base model model 2015 used Sachs suspension, as do some Aprilia models eg shiver 750. Decent quality suspension. Also at over £25k it's very expensive and clearly not affordable even if the battery had a 300 mile range. No parking brake is a huge deal breaker and design oversight. You won't find a rock on a ferry or the chunnel !!

If I was rich I might buy one as change to my other bikes, but as a realistic distance tourer, no way. Planning a route with fast chargers and helpful hotels, whilst keeping an eye on your rapidly diminishing charge as you try to make up time to make the ferry - NO !!

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, in practice, it is a lot easier than it sounds and not very stress inducing. The planning apps are so good these days the only surprises are when an expected charger is down, then you have to adjust to plan B. But we always have a Plan A/Plan B so we've never been stranded (touring on two EV motorcycles since 2019).

This is a great step in the right direction. Now if only they joined the other super popular segment where people are used to dropping 25k+ on a bike. Looking at you, 1200 GS Adventure.

@visordown

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly a step in the right direction. I feel like the GS crowd will be hard to peel away from BMW, though

Whilst I take my hat off to them for actually getting a real world range... I can't agree with £27,000 being a "bargain"..!! An 1100cc Honda with panniers is around £12k to £14k... Virtually HALF the price. When buying a new bike, would you go for a totally unheard of brand or one of the big five well known brands?.... Even a Goldwing or K1800 is cheaper.

@jensfos

2 жыл бұрын

Where I live, this bike is 10k cheaper than the cheapest goldwing (40k USD) We also get 2.5k USD back when buying an electric motorcycle.

@mikadavies660

2 жыл бұрын

@@jensfos Nice... Where do you live? In the UK a Goldwing is about £22,000. Electric motorcycles now get zero back from the UK government!!!

@jensfos

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikadavies660Norway. There's big taxes on ICE vehicles here, but EV's have none. My 22 Tracer 9 GT cost me 20k euro/USD approximately.

@mikadavies660

2 жыл бұрын

@@jensfos Lucky you... Norway is leading the world. Well done! 👍 Massive taxes on ICE vehicles is the way it should be.

@jensfos

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikadavies660 Unfortunately, EV bikes doesn't necessarily work for everyone, certainly not for me, so the high taxes are a pain. The same with cars. I don't want to have to pay 50k + for a reasonable fun EV.

Great review and a amazing place to do it! I was very impressed to see that range improvement, checked out the Zero DSR/x but that had to short of a range. This would almost make sense for me since its cheaper than the Africa twin I bought last year here in Denmark due to taxes. And we have lower/ more nomal tax on electric so its almost 9000 euros cheaper! 41000 euros for the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT ES so top model, and 32000 euros for the Experia! If I get another bike it will be electric thats for sure. Only thing about the Experia is that it looks more like a road based bike, right? Not much ground clearence under the engine. It has half the range of the Africa twin but 200km is always my max between stops anyway. same Hp 102 but way more Torque of course. Interesting times ahead! Maybe Honda could up there electric game too ;)

I ride a big V twin and after riding the live wire I just want to throw my whole V twin in the recycle pile. I was blown away by the acceleration and no need to shift gears and try and optimize power bands-I know allot of guys like that part but I am so over it. Ironically after testing the Live wire my V twin decided it wanted to play start or no start roulette the rest of my trip forcing me to beg for jump starts, call roadside assistance once and purchase an expensive pocket battery jumper pack. I am ready to go electric but my wallet isn't.

@visordown

Жыл бұрын

Give the Energica Experia a test ride if you get the chance!

I take it from all this talk of parking brakes (or lack of) that it doesn't have a centrestand either? I've only ever had 2 bikes (both old 650 tourers) and they both had centrestands. I don't think it ever occurred to me to park them in gear...

I'd still go for a combustion tourer. The price is sky high, range for a touring bike isn't great and there comes charging infrastructure/time.

After having a Zero DSR i am looking for a more reliable electric bike. I Loved the silent, quik and seamless ride like flying. The ownership whas super, with no oil, engineservice, and expencive gas (Norway) 30 years+ of riding, and electric is giving me more fun and riding then the old gasbike i have.

Does it have a skid plate / basher plate?

Just this morning I had a 20 minuet test ride on an Energica EsseEsse9, I can't get that instant acceleration out of my head and as I was on the intercom to a friend who bagged the Ego we could hear the whine of each others bikes as we whacked the throttle open, laughing like a pair of lunatics... Anyone even remotely interested should go get a ride on one, I'm now looking very closely at replacing my 900XR with electric when the PCP is up in a couple of years.

Wooooaaaa !!

I always wonder with these things, can you not buy a few gadgets made of high performance battery packs etc, to augment battery capacity. Surely you an buy a power pack of some sort about 1kg in weight and add sone range

I would put a little more money and get a Hyundai Ioniq instead

Electric version of my Multi V2S, even uses Sachs suspension, too pricey though, I’ll be dead before these are a common sight and the infrastructure is poor but it’s the future.

So you are on tour and you arrive at your hotel and ask them if you can use their electricity……… then trail a cable across the pavement and car park….

@Panos-xo9rc

2 жыл бұрын

Even better,you tour around the mountains with a passenger and perhaps some luggage,the battery starts to drain and the nearest GRID(notice that i don't say CHARGER,that's another thing)is at double digit mile distance...

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

2022 Reality Check: 1) You stay at a hotel that has a Level 2 charger and charge overnight. 2) You may not even need that, as you have an APP that shows you where all DC Fast Chargers are and you planned your route to include necessary charging stops. Source: I've toured using an EV motorcycle, including the Blue Ridge Parkway.

@g0fum

2 жыл бұрын

​@@OrlandoRick exactly what touring is about a little bit of planning etc. that's what me and my mates did when there was no satnav. take a map and select where the petrol stations were on route and then just explore. same thing with this but with DC fast charging. touring isn't always about 200-300 miles in one go in the saddle it's about exploring the nature around you not the mile munching.

@maxflight777

Жыл бұрын

Idiot

@maxflight777

Жыл бұрын

Ian .. idiotic comment ! I only book hotels with chargers … and find that’s a good way of locating a high standard of hotel !

Why give a range and top speed in miles and a price in Euros? Be consistent. Pounds and miles for the brits and Euros and kilometers for us Europeans.

@visordown

2 жыл бұрын

At the launch the price in pounds was yet to be confirmed, we were only given the Euro cost

Re: handbrake. Energica should copy BMW, who on their CE 04 electric bike have the kickstand auto activate the handbrake.

AWESOME AMAZING FANTASTIC ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I hate it when they use insta 360 camera. It spoils whole video when filming

👊

All they needed to do was copy honda's handbrake(nc 750x). If i had the money, i'd import one asap!

I have a Multistrada V4S Sport and even the Experia is too much money for me.

28k that's not a bargain in the least. This shows the biggest issue with EV motorcycles.

@visordown

2 жыл бұрын

The top end of the electric market is all pricey, admittedly. A Zero SR/F is around £21k, and the Energica has more range and quoted torque. We'll have to wait for the prices of the EV world to come down a bit!

Why ?. ? Why measure distance in your explanations using two different standards. One min you are telling us about rename in kilometres, not soon after you start with miles. Then back to k’s , back to miles … If you were consistent, EVERY time you quote inches, you would either just say cm or pop up on the screen in post editing. Mention miles.. then either add the same measurement in k’s or show it on the screen ? Consistency will help people to enjoy your review, without trying to calculate a measurement, often.

Well! Pretty cool. And at only 2X what I’d consider paying for it! In fairness, just like electric cars, the more “well heeled” among us will have to break the ice. 😅 Oh and little cafes in remote small towns will need rapid charging stations. Oh and that sound it makes made me want to do harm to myself. But yeah. Electric. Yea!

Not having a parking brake is a massive fail 🤦‍♂

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

None of the previous models did and no one is really missing it. Third-party inexpensive ones are available.

@MotoGoato

2 жыл бұрын

£28K and you have to pay extra to park it on hills 😂🤣

@angelzhang3478

2 жыл бұрын

You can always strap a rubber band around the brake handle... but at 27k... you'd expect not needing to resort to such cheap tricks.

@MotoGoato

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelzhang3478 exactly ... for that sort of asking price it should come with a device that can stop it rolling on gradients ... if simple inexpensive aftermarket options are available then it can't be that difficult or costly for them to be added to the bikes as stock at the factory 🤦‍♂

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelzhang3478 Or park facing uphill.

nearly 30k and it's a bargain? lol

Bro… for 27k€ i will buy Ducati Multistrada V4 Grand Tour. Thats a vay too much money for electric bike, i think for now for me when someone says electric motorcycle i laughed.

Hhhhhh 25 k . For 130 miles. Hhhhhhhh

new electric turer but the same shit

Lol,anyone who tours with a battery vehicle is asking for trouble,or to ridicule himself...

@Tomos13

2 жыл бұрын

Many people will

@OrlandoRick

2 жыл бұрын

We (my wife and I on separate bikes) have with our existing electric motorcycles and will continue to with these new ones (we've placed an order for two).

@Tomos13

2 жыл бұрын

@@OrlandoRick Glad to hear 😀

@kimw200blaze4

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO! Anybody who tours in the 2030s with an Internal combustion engine vehicle is asking for trouble. ICE drivers will experience severe range anxiety, as petrol stations are closed and replaced, with EV charging infrastructure.

@Panos-xo9rc

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimw200blaze4 I think all you battery guys have got it wrong. The issue with these vehicles is that once stranded because the battery is empty or low,and it can happen even with the vehicle immobile,you need BOTH the grid AND the charger to be ALONGSIDE in order to recharge. Jerrycans(a military item originally,mind you)will simply NOT cut it. There other issues of course,equally serious,like ratio of dead vs useful weight of an ev vehicle,battery range under load etc. So in my eyes,and i think i am correct in my argument,these kind of vehicles are only OK for urban civilian use,and then within certain parameters. But for serious,all weather and long range work under load,be it professional,military or civilian,it is NO GO.

1 hour of fast charge =240 miles very nice!