Empress Wu Zetian - LIES - Chinese History - Extra History

📜 Welcome Extra Historians to our Empress Wu Zetian Lies video! Where we talk about the mistakes we made and the details we couldn't quite squeeze into our Wu Zetian Series. With questions like, Is it really possible to drown someone in a vat of wine? Why aren't there witches in Chinese culture? And what ended up happening to those Gaozong brothers?
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"Women Rulers in Imperial China" - Keith McMahon kmcmahon.ku.edu/pdf/Women_Rul...
"'Chen gui' and Other Works Attributed to Empress Wu Zetian," Denis Twitchett www.jstor.org/stable/41649871
"Introduction from the Guest Editor: Women's Work, Virtue and Space: Change from Early to Late Imperial China," Angela Sheng www.jstor.org/stable/43151276
"Re-gendering Chinese History: Zhao Mei’s Emperor Wu Zetian," Xianlin Song research-repository.uwa.edu.a...
"Imagining Matriarchy: 'Kingdoms of Women' in Tang China," Jennifer W. Jay www.jstor.org/stable/605697
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory3 ай бұрын

    Want to vote on future episodes? Or make your own Extra History suggestions? Then why not join Patreon? patreon.com/extracredits You'll get MORE exclusive content like early access to our episodes, wallpapers, and Discord access along with helping support the show! - Thanks so much for watching!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430

    @danielsantiagourtado3430

    3 ай бұрын

    Love your content guys! You're the Best 😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @also_arles

    @also_arles

    3 ай бұрын

    My mood always improves when you guys upload, cheers to another Lies episode!! :)

  • @CNW452

    @CNW452

    3 ай бұрын

    Wu Zetian HTML6 Coming Febuary 13th 2024

  • @vinchester8688

    @vinchester8688

    3 ай бұрын

    Attempt 8 of asking for a Mustafa Kemal Ataturk viedo

  • @khalidshubbar6911

    @khalidshubbar6911

    3 ай бұрын

    In July, you should do something related to World War 1 for its 110 year Anniversary of its start. One Idea is the Treaty of Versailles, like you mentioned back then.

  • @trevinbeattie4888
    @trevinbeattie48883 ай бұрын

    When you talked about having to read between the lines to interpret what officials were saying compared to how the Tang dynasty was doing, that sounds exactly like my approach when watching current government press conferences. You know that even when politicians tell the truth they’re going to spin it to make themselves look good and may be omitting details that make them look bad, so you have to take it with a proverbial grain of salt and compare their statements with what investigative journalists turn up.

  • @anilmanepalli6029
    @anilmanepalli60293 ай бұрын

    Series ideas 1. Indian rebellion of 1857 2. The Mughal empire 3. Wars of the roses 4. Or a small video on Thomas Alexandre dumas

  • @jessicaclakley3691

    @jessicaclakley3691

    3 ай бұрын

    War of the roses please!!! That ish is crazy!!

  • @barrymoore4470

    @barrymoore4470

    Ай бұрын

    Another good subject would be Shajar al-Durr, the one female Sultan in Egyptian history (from 1348 to 1250), whose life and rule bridged the era of the Ayyubid dynasty and the following ascent of the Mamluk overlords.

  • @wilsonli5642
    @wilsonli56423 ай бұрын

    I do wish that we learned more about the substantive changes of her reign, but considering her rise to power is unique in Chinese history, I'm glad that you did as deep a dive as you did.

  • @6Euphoria6

    @6Euphoria6

    3 ай бұрын

    Women government is one thing. She also changed court lady rank titles from lame names like "beauty" "talented lady" to more sophisticated and honorable names that isnt always focusing on the word "lady" and as you can see from artifacts, cross reading is a favorite of Tang women

  • @KyleRayner12
    @KyleRayner123 ай бұрын

    I remember "The Celebrated Cases of Judge Dee"! It's a fascinating collection for anyone interested in the society of the time, or anyone who just loves detective stories.

  • @kevinchong5424
    @kevinchong54243 ай бұрын

    Wu Zetian and Tama no Mai have no connection with each other. The reason people compare the two is also not as simple as them both strong female characters in the royal court in East-Asia. Another contributing factor is probably because the term '狐狸精' or 'fox spirit/demon' is slang (in Cantonese at least) for a seductress, a sexually promiscuous woman who seduces (married) men and lead them astray. Basically, any woman who has a man wrapped around their little finger, will get that term thrown at them. So, Wu Zetian being called 狐狸精 and Tama no Mai being a kitsune (狐) is probably why people think the to are somehow connected

  • @leestudios9948
    @leestudios99483 ай бұрын

    Series ideas: - American revolution - Ming treasure voyages - Fall of the Ming dynasty - Fall of the Byzantine Empire - End of the Korean Empire - Korean Independents movement - End of the Solomonic Dynasty - Taiping Rebellion - Donghak Peasant Revolution - Second Opium War - Boxer Rebellion - The great siege of malta Sorry extra history if this is a lot.

  • @kevincronk7981

    @kevincronk7981

    3 ай бұрын

    The fall of the solomonic dynasty would really just be a biography of Haile Selassie, but I'd still be all for that. The monarchy was going strong up to his rule and for much of his rule as well. The anti-monarchy movement was largely because it was post WW2, having an absolute monarch was starting to be very behind the times, and rarher than giving up powers, Haile Selassie was becoming more and more authoritarian, despite his advisors begging him not to. A less stubborn and senile emperor may have stayed in power as a constitutional monarch, but either way there was no significant risk to the monarchy during the reigns of the previous emperors, beyond attempted colonization. There was also some hypocrisy with Haile Selassie specifically. He was the head of the AU (or it might have beeen its precursor), and organization that promotes democracy, while being an absolute monarch, and he cultivated enormous popularity internationally while being so unpopular that he was overthrown by communists back home.

  • @KaiserAfini

    @KaiserAfini

    3 ай бұрын

    Opium war was already covered.

  • @steamrangercomputing

    @steamrangercomputing

    3 ай бұрын

    French revolution

  • @6Euphoria6

    @6Euphoria6

    3 ай бұрын

    Boxer Rebellion from a chinese perspective

  • @wynnright4538
    @wynnright45383 ай бұрын

    Welcome to the new team member! Looking forward to what you bring!

  • @stormy7745
    @stormy77453 ай бұрын

    Really enjoy the context fairy segment - looking forward to more of those!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34303 ай бұрын

    Love this section after each series! Really helps expand on them!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @OshadhaRanawaka
    @OshadhaRanawaka3 ай бұрын

    Hey guys, I really love your serirs on Wu Zentien, but I would really appreciate it if you guys could do one on the Pelopanisian war. It's really interesting, and I hope you guys consider it on a future series. Good luck, guys.

  • @klconlin
    @klconlin3 ай бұрын

    Welcome to the new researcher-enjoy! Hope you get over your cold soon.

  • @blackwolf88889
    @blackwolf88889Ай бұрын

    Long time subscriber, first time commenter - LOVE the Context Fairy segment! Often it's really hard to conceptualise different historical events happening in tandem across the world: really great work!

  • @AmaraJordanMusic

    @AmaraJordanMusic

    Ай бұрын

    I love it too!

  • @melnoli
    @melnoliАй бұрын

    Late to the party but I ADORE the new segment, global context is so easy to miss and so often absent

  • @firenter
    @firenter3 ай бұрын

    Ooh, loving Context Fairy! I always have a hard time connecting dates to events, so that really helps for me!

  • @johnlienhart2717
    @johnlienhart27173 ай бұрын

    _Love_ Context Fairy World Tour. History, especially when taught in segments like this, can feel like separate worlds, even though nothing could be further from the truth, so it's great to see what other places in the world are up to at the time, even if they don't tie into anything

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34303 ай бұрын

    You guys are the Best! You always make My day! And happy new lunar year! 🐉🐉🐉🐉🐲🐲🐲🐲

  • @CrisSelene
    @CrisSelene3 ай бұрын

    This was a great series and I can't wait for the one on Hypatia

  • @avgikyriazi1186
    @avgikyriazi11863 ай бұрын

    Yay! Judge Dee! I loved these books!

  • @TrajityTheHoodHistorian
    @TrajityTheHoodHistorian3 ай бұрын

    Thank you, i appreciate the work you do...

  • @79tomato1
    @79tomato13 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @extrahistory

    @extrahistory

    3 ай бұрын

    Everyone here thanks you for your support of the show!!! ❤

  • @SpectralTime
    @SpectralTime3 ай бұрын

    Man, I love the van Gulick novels about Judge Dee…

  • @LordGrantius
    @LordGrantius3 ай бұрын

    I feel like the Warhammer in the background is a challenge

  • @charlotte-mg9wj

    @charlotte-mg9wj

    3 ай бұрын

    Iv'e only just realised it's the same Robert Rath, suddenly, somehow, everything makes sense.......

  • @LordGrantius

    @LordGrantius

    3 ай бұрын

    @@charlotte-mg9wj and now you've made me realize this! Goodness gracious, and By the Throne and Great Angel!

  • @LordGrantius

    @LordGrantius

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@charlotte-mg9wj I'm not going to lie, I feel rather humiliated. And The Infinite and The Divine was a great, book. Still haven't read the Fall of Cadia, working my way through The End and the Death vol3. I need some bacon to go with the egg on my face. Sorry, Robert! Challenge rescinded!

  • @GeneralLuigiTBC
    @GeneralLuigiTBC2 ай бұрын

    I only just noticed: there doesn't appear to be new music for this series. The music at the end is from the series on Sun Yat-Sen.

  • @musiclover01ization
    @musiclover01ization3 ай бұрын

    This was a good video.

  • @brittaneenorthrop9893
    @brittaneenorthrop98933 ай бұрын

    I love your Necrons in the Back

  • @300fusionfall
    @300fusionfall3 ай бұрын

    Can't wait for secret societies, sound very intriguing

  • @argentandroid5732
    @argentandroid57323 ай бұрын

    Daji is probably the Empress that that commenter was thinking of. Their stories are kinda similar, but Daji is the one that was written into The Investiture of the Gods as an evil Fox Spirit.

  • @Goat-tz6gs
    @Goat-tz6gs3 ай бұрын

    Cool video :D

  • @narsimhas1360
    @narsimhas13602 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith36993 ай бұрын

    10:56 General Jack D. Ripper , "Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake." Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake, "No." General Jack D. Ripper , "But I... I do deny them my essence."

  • @tng2057
    @tng20573 ай бұрын

    Funny, and so coincidentally, quit a few great empires were greatest / really great when females were at the helm. Isabella of Spain, Catherine the Great of Russia, Elizabeth I of Rngland, Wu of Tang (Zhao?) China, Maria Teresa of Hapsburg Austria…

  • @pedroforti
    @pedroforti3 ай бұрын

    When is the Wu Z theme song is gonna be released? It's SO GOOD

  • @renegadeleader1
    @renegadeleader13 ай бұрын

    I'm really dying to know, but on the shelf behind you with all the 40k stuff is that dagger from the 90s film The Shadow and the head piece of the staff of ra from Raiders of the Lost Ark?

  • @MrAbdullahi701
    @MrAbdullahi7013 ай бұрын

    Can you do a series on Somalia 🇸🇴 ? It has such a RICH history even with WW1/2

  • @kellybeck4579
    @kellybeck45793 ай бұрын

    Since your next series is about Sitting Bull, have you considered Chief Joseph? I'm from Montana, and he is a big part of our local history.

  • @lagofala
    @lagofala3 ай бұрын

    You guys could do an entire 10 part series on Investiture of the Gods.

  • @icrofts
    @icrofts3 ай бұрын

    I like your Necrons

  • @KingCronan

    @KingCronan

    3 ай бұрын

    He wrote the book "The Infinite and Divine" for Games Workshop!

  • @charlotte-mg9wj

    @charlotte-mg9wj

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KingCronanif I’m not mistaken that’s Orikan on the far left😂

  • @charlotte-mg9wj

    @charlotte-mg9wj

    3 ай бұрын

    Do *you* have a statue of yourself, Orikan?

  • @eugenewii
    @eugenewii3 ай бұрын

    I'm curious of the different perspective of the historical figures of Northern and Southern Continents native to the area before Vikings, Spanish, French, British, origin in this land.

  • @LegoCookieDoggie
    @LegoCookieDoggie3 ай бұрын

    I am super excited for the series about Hypatia, if she was christian or catholic she would have been sainted kind of ironic though

  • @khalidshubbar6911
    @khalidshubbar69113 ай бұрын

    In July, you should do something related to World War 1 for its 110 year Anniversary of its start. One Idea is the Treaty of Versailles, like you mentioned back then.

  • @MattValtezzy95
    @MattValtezzy953 ай бұрын

    Hypatia's one of the GOATs though

  • @sparshdalal2789
    @sparshdalal27892 ай бұрын

    New to the channel! Where to start?

  • @gerardtrigo380
    @gerardtrigo3803 ай бұрын

    Couls you have used Shamon for witch?

  • @ashermerrell1152
    @ashermerrell11523 ай бұрын

    Lancaster pennselvania for half a day! York was several months.

  • @grelly5376
    @grelly53763 ай бұрын

    PLEASE GIVE US THAT ONE OFF

  • @maxgutman1849
    @maxgutman18493 ай бұрын

    For the American Revoultion either Alexander Hamilton or Haym Salomon

  • @jack1spade
    @jack1spade3 ай бұрын

    Arethose necrons behind you? I wish we could get a better view! :)

  • @dogood8750
    @dogood87503 ай бұрын

    How I see lies Me: Why do you Lie to use Rob I makes us sad. Rob: Sorry here's what we know Me: Ahh we still love you bro

  • @gregmartell1235
    @gregmartell12353 ай бұрын

    Do next video a history of Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 please 🙏

  • @CodyosVladimiros
    @CodyosVladimiros3 ай бұрын

    Story for another time? WILL THERE BE A JUSTINIAN II EXTRA HISTORY? oh maaaaannnn that would be legit.

  • @calinbrown517
    @calinbrown5173 ай бұрын

    Sometimes... the smile on the outside hides a broken soul on the inside and as much as we think we know them, we'll never be as close to the smiling soul we think we know 😔as the monster hiding within....😢 When you are talking with someone, always while looking then in the eyes, ask how're they doing? Not the children, not their job their partner....ask THEM and if you think they might be stressed or whatever offer them your time to do something they need done and help lighten the load because sometimes that's all it takes 😏 for a person to feel, like they themselves are important enough in a persons life to have someone actually care about THEM! Many times they're feeling like they won't be missed because they aren't important enough to anyone for them to be asked about and it's in that little moment and that simple question can validate another person's presence in this world and they might just stick around a little longer because they really do hold value to another person even if it's the neighbors next door because believe it or not that's how a lot of people feel like and think WHY allow my children to be hurt like that, if I can give them peace, while walking into heaven!?! I sincerely hope whomever is reading this knows that you matter to more people than you know and yesterday is a memory tomorrow unknown but today is a gift and that's WHY they call it the present......🤗❣️🙏🏼 4 ✌🏻 AlWaYs

  • @Blakethekinght
    @Blakethekinght3 ай бұрын

    I wonder if extra history will do the battle of Gallipoli

  • @generalmazur
    @generalmazur3 ай бұрын

    While I understand the wont to view the more personal nature of women's biographies as in some way diminishing them in comparison with their male counterparts, it's this tendency that has always made them seem to me so much more human, so much more engaging, and so much more alive in comparison to the more standard histories, written especially of male princes, which so often neglect rulers' personal lives to such an extent that their very names become little more than bywords for the æras of statecraft whereover they so happened-less by providence than by chance-to præside.

  • @Kilgorio
    @Kilgorio3 ай бұрын

    Wow

  • @trnogger
    @trnogger3 ай бұрын

    Given the ever-increasing saber-rattling between the PRC, ROC and US, it would be great to have a series that covers the end of the Chinese Civil War and both China's history during the Cold War, since there is a lot of misinformation about the realtionship between the ROC aka Taiwan and the PRC aka Mainland China floating around.

  • @postapocalypticnewsradio
    @postapocalypticnewsradio3 ай бұрын

    PANR has tuned in.

  • @therewasnothingthere3157
    @therewasnothingthere31573 ай бұрын

    you should make a video about Stalin's prior life as a bank robber

  • @joshuagollatz1261
    @joshuagollatz12613 ай бұрын

    1 minute gang

  • @hidefreek6905
    @hidefreek69053 ай бұрын

    Wu's mistake is she fails to convince the Tang and its loyal servants to follow her idea and way of ruling.

  • @dylanrodrigues
    @dylanrodrigues3 ай бұрын

    Hope we get a series about Indian history! Like Mughal Empire or the Cholas.

  • @mrplaguedr.
    @mrplaguedr.3 ай бұрын

    Nice neuron army in the top left

  • @Altarahhn
    @Altarahhn3 ай бұрын

    Wait... so the _Bavarian_ Illuminati was *real??* Well then, didn't see that one coming. 😂

  • @krixpop
    @krixpop23 күн бұрын

    Inbreeding ? In my East European country, my people were not allowed to marry inside a village, and also not with the 1st or 3rd neighbouring villages. That was decided by the uper-Church leadership. It was an annual "Women-Marked" were families would come the search spouses (both sides) That took a long weekend and was sanctioned by a Bisho (?) or a local Pries counsell. . Those able to marry had 4 or 5 days to find a partner that they liked; their respective families had to abide by their decisions, and a Priest would perform the marriage rites. The man will follow this wife's family and they would consummate their marriage at her place. So China ? Inbreeding ? Not the 1st or 2nd family, which was definitively a crime for the high class, but 3rd or else ? And how was that regulated for common, farmer tipe, people ?

  • @khongmaithikhog5624
    @khongmaithikhog56243 ай бұрын

    😮 wu zetian the only woman emperor

  • @poli3578
    @poli35783 ай бұрын

    would really love to see you guys cover the taiping rebellion, it being the third largest conflict in human history and all (and way more manageable to cover than others like the mongol invasions or the world wars)

  • @thecreativecontessa
    @thecreativecontessa3 ай бұрын

    The SCA: not a new (or even European) concept. 😂

  • @EGSBiographies-om1wb
    @EGSBiographies-om1wb3 ай бұрын

    33rd

  • @bmyers7078
    @bmyers70783 ай бұрын

    Is it just me or, or does Rob sound like he has hay fever ?🤒

  • @IDKjustS0mething
    @IDKjustS0mething3 ай бұрын

    early

  • @Snipe_981
    @Snipe_9813 ай бұрын

    3rd!

  • @tu4764
    @tu47643 ай бұрын

    "History is written by the victors." Um, actually.

  • @chialuenlis5931
    @chialuenlis59313 ай бұрын

    E

  • @Cyberknight22
    @Cyberknight223 ай бұрын

    Not frist

  • @essneyallen6777
    @essneyallen67773 ай бұрын

    What do you mean 20 minutes nooo

  • @vinchester8688
    @vinchester86883 ай бұрын

    Attempt 7 of asking for a Mustafa Kemal Ataturk Video

  • @HeftyOwl
    @HeftyOwl3 ай бұрын

    22 minute lies ep....

  • @Itz_Patrisia_here
    @Itz_Patrisia_here3 ай бұрын

    This lady lied more than my 5 yo cousin-