EMERGENCY LANDING AT SUN N FUN??? What would you have done? Declared an emergency???

Precautionary return in the Baron to Lakeland, Fl (Sun n Fun 2021) with mechanical issue.
I personally believe the controller at KLAL did the right thing by declaring an emergency. I appreciate all of the controllers, you guys help keep us safe and are the best!

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  • @heathharmon1042
    @heathharmon10423 жыл бұрын

    Controller here. You did the right thing turning back to the airport as quickly as you did. Just understand that we will declare emergency for you in that situation. This relieves you and us of restrictions and gets you on the ground as quickly and safely as possible. Especially when you're on an IFR flight plan. I've worked many emergencies where the pilot didn't declare. Whether it be out of denial, forgot or just too busy. It seems pilots often see declaring as a last resort. It shouldn't be like that. To a controller, it unties our hands and opens up a lot more options. You both did a great job and happy flying.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Heath, first thank you for keeping us pilots safe in the skies....... Looking back I'm thankful the controller declared for us. This situation we were having could have turned for the worst fast. I like many pilots see declaring as a last resort. After flying for over 30 years, this situation has changed my mindset regarding this moving forward. I won't hesitate next time. Thank you for sharing from a controllers point of view!

  • @fsodn

    @fsodn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @AV858: First of all, beautifully flown and handled. I hope someday I can be as smooth and calm as you in a distress situation. I see nothing you could have done better in terms of flying or communication. Your video title included the question "What would you have done? Declared an emergency?" If I were in your shoes, and *IF* I'd thought of it, I would have, yes. I understand why you didn't. You were physically under control of your aircraft, even if that engine had quit. As Heath says here, declaring an emergency gives you a bigger box to deal with your problem in. It also instantly expands the authority of the controller you're talking to do things for your benefit. They could break off all aircraft who were planning to land, for instance. So in case, say, your engine started on fire as you touched down, they wouldn't have aircraft needing to make landing decisions on approach. Well done. Thank you for posting this video. It's a great lesson for all of us. I'm so glad it worked out Ok and everyone is safe.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fsodn Thank you!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @J M Completely agree with you JM!

  • @billjobes1851

    @billjobes1851

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why didn't the controller inform the pilot that an emergency was declared ?

  • @videosallnight
    @videosallnight2 жыл бұрын

    Chuck Yeager: If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chuck was the best!!!

  • @macdean

    @macdean

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Pud Pete chuck was a test pilot. nobody knew if the planes he flew could fly properly let alone land. but he took the job anyway- balls of steel

  • @aimandjulian3195

    @aimandjulian3195

    2 жыл бұрын

    By chucks standards all of my landings in nearly 50 years were outstanding bar 2 that were still good thankyou chuck.

  • @thomasb8733

    @thomasb8733

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@macdean My great-grandpa was an early British aviator often he would pay his chauffeur to test his planes for him lol

  • @kzendo6542

    @kzendo6542

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you can fly it to space the next day, then it was an absolutely perfect landing.

  • @TrainerAQ
    @TrainerAQ3 жыл бұрын

    Here's the thing, an Emergency can be declared by the Pilot, Air Traffic Control, or the Dispatcher. Although the pilot here did not declare the emergency, the tower controller most likely did. Either way, nothing wrong with having the firetrucks follow you around. Those guys are pretty bored most of the time anyways.

  • @stevenfries7032

    @stevenfries7032

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love the ending of that sentence. They rather be busy than idle.

  • @frankbuck99

    @frankbuck99

    2 жыл бұрын

    We like the fire trucks to be bored!

  • @scottw5315

    @scottw5315

    2 жыл бұрын

    It goes way beyond rolling fire trucks...not the job of ATC to declare an emergency. I've been flying 35 years and never heard of such. Creeping control is the way of all government and its bullshit.

  • @hollyfoxThe

    @hollyfoxThe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I can guarantee that anything that gets them out of the shed is good for them. It is what they live for. But, better safe than sorry.

  • @MrBrpedro

    @MrBrpedro

    Жыл бұрын

    lol, they being busy means someone's heart rate is dangerously high

  • @colinrasmussen9470
    @colinrasmussen94703 жыл бұрын

    Lesson here is never be afraid to declare an emergency. The system is there to help us.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!!!!

  • @thecatwiththehats

    @thecatwiththehats

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does declaring an emergency, effects your license?

  • @sparkie951

    @sparkie951

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thecatwiththehats For a real issue at hand... NO! If you declare because your wife has to use the restroom, then probably so... If you abuse the system, then you are going to be held accountable... but this was certainly not abused.

  • @thecatwiththehats

    @thecatwiththehats

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sparkie951 Thank you for your response!!!

  • @tonyvelasquez6776

    @tonyvelasquez6776

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thecatwiththehats oh hunny, youre so very welcome!

  • @theav8rs45
    @theav8rs453 жыл бұрын

    No hesitation... Aviate, navigate, communicate - Perfectly executed. Great lesson for new pilots out there - Well done!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your comment with us!!!

  • @christopherjones8025

    @christopherjones8025

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes good to be watching all your gauges closely very important weather it was a fp issue or gauge issue . Obviously if u had 0 fuel pressure engine would not be running or no power . Did the right thing , I would not fly if it said 0 either

  • @CharlieTheNerd91

    @CharlieTheNerd91

    2 жыл бұрын

    And old ones* :)

  • @elmalloc

    @elmalloc

    9 ай бұрын

    ALWAYS aviate, navigate, communicate - in THAT order!

  • @tonymarks4043
    @tonymarks40433 жыл бұрын

    I believe the controller at KLAL did the right thing by declaring an emergency. I appreciate all of the controllers, you guys are the best!

  • @zolitariglussey6302

    @zolitariglussey6302

    3 жыл бұрын

    so how bad id the paperwork after declaring an emergency?

  • @JimNortonsAlcoholism

    @JimNortonsAlcoholism

    3 жыл бұрын

    What was the mechanical issue?

  • @occyman

    @occyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny as you looked a little pissed that they declared an emergency ....

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zolitariglussey6302 I'm going to discuss this in my next video.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JimNortonsAlcoholism Ended up being an electrical issue with the wiring.

  • @franktbone
    @franktbone3 жыл бұрын

    Retired Crash Rescue Firefighter we'd rather be there for you than not, always ready to help.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Frank!

  • @wraith0127

    @wraith0127

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!

  • @blackhawks81H

    @blackhawks81H

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tonymarks4043 Just try not to declare any emergencies 5 seconds after we've sat down on the throne... If you catch my drift...😁 🤣

  • @vuggie123
    @vuggie1233 жыл бұрын

    The look in her eyes.. really points out your pilots responsibility for passengers. Great job and video.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Thank you...

  • @skippmclovan1135

    @skippmclovan1135

    10 ай бұрын

    @@tonymarks4043 Very nice landing! That was well done!

  • @Verb130
    @Verb1303 жыл бұрын

    I'm a commercial pilot and a FAA controller. Controllers have the authority to declare an emergency. I can also say, don't hesitate to declare and emergency. It actually makes a controllers job easier. Without an emergency, the sequence will be first come, first serve. With an emergency, the controller will part the waters and give you whatever support they can to expedite you.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    K, thank you for being a controller and helping keep us pilots safe. I'm working on a follow up video pertaining to declaring an emergency, what I did wrong and what I'd do different today. I'm hoping this will help another pilot.

  • @Jake-im2lv

    @Jake-im2lv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Looking at some of the case studies on the aviation safety institutes channel, there has been and will probably continue to be a not insignificant number of pilots who unfortunately do not get the help they really need because they don't declare an emergency for some reason or another, whether it be pride, shame, or just not wanting to be a bother.

  • @jpb9064

    @jpb9064

    2 жыл бұрын

    @K Verb, l second what you say - l was in a very tricky situation once and the controllers had to vector me thro some busy airspace near London...l was given priority at every turn and thinking back I'm pretty sure if ld asked for a cup of tea....it would somehow have materialised beside me! The controller was amazing..

  • @clxudzYT
    @clxudzYT10 ай бұрын

    That's what I call a passenger. Kept quiet after receiving just enough info. Well done by the both of you!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @RosemaryOltarzewski

    @RosemaryOltarzewski

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes agree. He knew what to do immediately ❤😊

  • @ZA-wm6mm

    @ZA-wm6mm

    4 ай бұрын

    She shouldn’t have been on that flight. She was scared from the beginning

  • @bubbaman12289

    @bubbaman12289

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ZA-wm6mm nerves are one thing ….shes not scared

  • @roberttornqvist7593
    @roberttornqvist75933 жыл бұрын

    1. Fly the plane 2. Handle the situation 3. Inform passenger Nice!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Robert

  • @timothylegg

    @timothylegg

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd probably thump the gauge at least twice before keying the radio, but I'm not the one in the left seat on this flight.

  • @Eman-vp5wk

    @Eman-vp5wk

    18 күн бұрын

    @@timothylegg sounded like he said he burned 2 gallons in total for that flight but only .6 gallons at the left engine.

  • @jordanm5149
    @jordanm51493 жыл бұрын

    " no honey, its fine" was NEVER said in that household ever again

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL Too funny....

  • @jrocksburr2724
    @jrocksburr27243 жыл бұрын

    Man this guy reads through all his comments and thanks so many people, this video definitely deserves the attention it got and I hope your channel grows even more!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir for sharing your thoughts and kind words!!!

  • @geoffmarsh7986
    @geoffmarsh79863 жыл бұрын

    Admired Kelly's calmness and control, must have been a worry. Pilot seemed 100% in control and knew what procedures to follow. Hope issue got sorted quickly!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Geoff, thank you for watching and commenting. Fortunately for us Double M Aviation in fixed the mechanical issue fast. They did a great job!

  • @elmalloc

    @elmalloc

    9 ай бұрын

    she was terrified you could see it in her face!

  • @DustinLaughs
    @DustinLaughs3 жыл бұрын

    Your wife’s face went from “Oh no!” to “How much is this going to cost” 😂 Great job of you and the controller. They absolutely did the right thing declaring for you.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised by Keli's expression when I first watched the video. She did a great job staying calm due to the situation. Thank you for watching and your feedback!

  • @kandaman304

    @kandaman304

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know, the look on her face said it all.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kandaman304 Definitely!

  • @TheFlagsofDawn

    @TheFlagsofDawn

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree, poor Keli I've seen that look of alarm on passengers' faces before, but it usually been when I have been flying in the left seat!

  • @TrainerAQ

    @TrainerAQ

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was dying from the look on her face! XD

  • @QFWP
    @QFWP3 жыл бұрын

    Your wife's look at 3:24 was priceless and understandable. Eyes wide open for the remainder of the flight until you landed. Having the ATC declaring for you takes one decision making process off your plate and then you ARE the most important person in the air. I have a number of friends who are controllers or pilots - going to send to them.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Lindsay!

  • @goku445

    @goku445

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well she looked scared from the beginning of the video. Not sure why she is flying if she can't enjoy it.

  • @rigolmgs

    @rigolmgs

    3 жыл бұрын

    3:37 is priceless, her eyes were ready to pop--my guess I would have been scanning board and looking for other issues, thanks for posting as it was a great show of perfect decision making--some would have pushed, kudos to ya Sir.

  • @b4iscrewuruover18
    @b4iscrewuruover182 жыл бұрын

    I like how smooth and quick the tower was at bringing you back in. Very well communicated and done.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @wflyer7985
    @wflyer79856 ай бұрын

    “You don’t have a backup gauge?” Totally a wife question. Followed by her facial expression of, “A woman would’ve designed this plane with a backup gauge.” Married for thirteen years, I know that look well 😂 Great job both of you.

  • @RosemaryOltarzewski

    @RosemaryOltarzewski

    6 ай бұрын

    He might get a back up gauge now. ❤😊 x

  • @robertdmoore2592
    @robertdmoore25923 жыл бұрын

    I'm an A&P and worked on Beechcraft all of my career as soon as you lost fuel flow and the engine continued making power the first thing I thought was the fuel flow transducer then maybe a wire connector and then the gauge, I hope you post what the problem was! I'm very happy to see you handled everything perfectly!! Fly first!!!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your right on Robert. It was a wire connector.

  • @eddiem.5811

    @eddiem.5811

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking, zero pressure but the engine is still running?

  • @lyonknives1784

    @lyonknives1784

    3 жыл бұрын

    I asked that. Flow versus pressure. Flowing with zero indicated pressure is a minor mechanical. In a Baron ....that engine is about to die regardless of indications. Down low like that...turn back.

  • @aaronblack5356
    @aaronblack53562 жыл бұрын

    I’m a MEI, that was a great job. Losing the critical engine that low has cost pilots their lives. You handled it great!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Aaron for sharing

  • @markplatt1784

    @markplatt1784

    7 ай бұрын

    He never actually lost the engine, had power all the way to the chocks.

  • @aaronblack5356

    @aaronblack5356

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed, just saying he handled situation properly

  • @markplatt1784

    @markplatt1784

    7 ай бұрын

    @@aaronblack5356 indeed he did!!

  • @Streaky100001
    @Streaky1000013 жыл бұрын

    I'm no expert at this, but it seems to me like this is the sort of situation the "PAN PAN" call is designed for. You're not declaring a full blown emergency, with the connotations of immediate danger to life, but it does nicely convey that you have an unusual and urgent situation. I mean, I figure it's probably best to make either the PAN PAN or declare a full emergency there, since you can't be certain you aren't about to loose an engine, I don't know how well that aircraft will fly on one, but I'm pretty confident that at minimum it will significantly reduce safety margin and make life more difficult, best that the controllers know something is going on before you become too busy to tell them.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Watch my next video as I recap the flight. Thank you for watching

  • @RaymondTusk74

    @RaymondTusk74

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, just use your callsign and declare.

  • @terryheard3086
    @terryheard30863 жыл бұрын

    Another great flight! Although it’s short it was absolutely one of your best decisions. Enjoy watching and keep them coming. It’s amazing how much we learn from other people’s videos.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Terry! You are so right. KZread has given us a tool to use and learn from other pilots for sure. I enjoy watching many of the aviation channels as well. Thank you again for watching and leaving us a comment.

  • @chcr8150
    @chcr81503 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this experience! Glad you both are safe. I thought you did a fine job keeping the airport in sight while dealing with the stressful workload of managing a complex aircraft that is acting up, especially given that the weather was not ideal. Nicely done!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!

  • @sootingsounds4917
    @sootingsounds4917 Жыл бұрын

    This channel earned my subscription with the calmness of the pilot the entire time and the fact that he takes his time to respond to the comments. Keep up the good work Tony much love on this side

  • @joeblowjohndoe206
    @joeblowjohndoe206 Жыл бұрын

    You could tell the passenger was scared from the very beginning. You handled this well. Confident and methodical. That kept her calm. Well done Capitan!

  • @billknudson6620
    @billknudson66203 жыл бұрын

    WELL DONE EVERYBODY!!! I read many of the notes. You have a wonderful support network of friends. What a blessing for you and Kelly. You are a beautiful couple. God Bless!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Bill for your kind words!!!!

  • @crooked-halo
    @crooked-halo10 ай бұрын

    Commercial, instrument rated, SEL pilot here, 320 hours, inactive for 10 years, just getting back in the cockpit. Putting myself in your seat, I'm probably declaring an emergency. Even though I'm an A&P, my knowledge/experience is structures, so I don't know if zero fuel pressure is a problem & I can't diagnose a maintenance issue at low altitude while flying. I believe it's our pride, ego, and/or fear that prevents the word "emergency" from moving past our lips. As a kid, in a Cessna 182 with dad & my oldest brother, dad noticed low oil pressure & high temperature. We made an immediate landing in Hillsboro, TX. We got out to find most of the fuselage covered in oil, which we couldn't see from the cockpit while flying. I'll never forget that scary sight! I'm landing, and likely/hopefully declaring an emergency, for just about anything!

  • @munzeez21
    @munzeez21 Жыл бұрын

    New private pilot here. It was beaten into my head to just call it anyways, you can always cancel the emergency. This is a great example of being old vs bold. Nice video.

  • @alkalk8938
    @alkalk89382 жыл бұрын

    The look on your face said you thought you had an emergency, once you get on the ground its easy to say just precautionary. Controller did it perfect and you did an amazing job flying it back also. Kudos to all!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts.

  • @rebornsmith7542
    @rebornsmith7542 Жыл бұрын

    7:07 At no time did I feel our lives were in danger. 3:24 The moment Kelly felt her life was in danger.

  • @Antiorganizer
    @Antiorganizer Жыл бұрын

    All the safety protocols, emergency procedures, contingency plans, keeping cool and smart and alert and controlled, combined with sound engineering and correcting faults as learned from experience, and all the rest of it, makes flying a beautiful thing. It helped me a great deal with being a passenger in a commercial jet. I used to be nervous as hell, but after learning what's involved, I'm no longer fearful at all. There are also people like Mentour with what's his face, that I find enlightening. Just that there is a plan for everything and everything is well thought out, eases my mind.

  • @Mike7478F
    @Mike7478F3 жыл бұрын

    A good lesson for us all to observe and remind us aviators. Well done mate. Handled by all professionaly.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mike, appreciate your kind comment!

  • @paratyshow
    @paratyshow3 жыл бұрын

    Cool calm professional reaction returning, controller did the right thing declaring to be prepared just in case. So happy it was just a wiring issue. Another pro decision is offering Ron and Janice any type of food to pay off any debt, works every time!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha...Ron & Janice will have to stop by Charlotte one day so I can pay my debt with pastries...... Thank you for your kind comment and watching our videos.

  • @billknudson6620

    @billknudson6620

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very nice to see there are still people out there to help somebody!

  • @VincentAir
    @VincentAir3 жыл бұрын

    Glad that you two are safe! Safety is always the number 1 priority and you made the right decision no matter what the problem was. Thumb up!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Vincent, I appreciate your feedback.

  • @coppi60
    @coppi603 жыл бұрын

    Great job! I declared an emergency once, and I would never hesitate to declare another one. Hopefully, this did not muddy the waters for Keli to continue flying with you.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. Keli loves flying. She's been back up in the air multiple times since this situation.

  • @coppi60

    @coppi60

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonymarks4043 glad to hear that about Keli getting back in the air!!! Keep the adventures coming.

  • @sp00l

    @sp00l

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does it cost you anything to do it?

  • @blobofblutack

    @blobofblutack

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sp00l To declare an emergency? Nothing but time and fuel.

  • @scottharrod2406
    @scottharrod2406 Жыл бұрын

    For the record the best time for your wife to question you about backup gauges is when you're rolling onto short final in an emergency.

  • @randyporter3491
    @randyporter34913 жыл бұрын

    Seems like the controller did an excellent job. Declaring an E for you, gave them the ability to be the most help, had your situation worsened. It would lift restrictions and expedite handling you exclusively. Great video here we can all benefit from. Thanks for sharing and being a pilot open to opinion and having the ability to evaluate the situation you had. Your calm, collected reaction was nice. Safe skies !

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts as well! I hope others will benefit from this video!

  • @joeyalcala7374
    @joeyalcala73742 жыл бұрын

    Very decisive and quick actions. I think declaring an emergency cleared the airspace for you just in case things escalated. Thanks for sharing and great decision turning back and communicating so quickly with ATC!!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Joey for sharing your thoughts as well!!!

  • @ferce889
    @ferce8892 жыл бұрын

    "you dont have a backup guage?'.....Not for that one.."........."It has to be working' XD

  • @tylerlittle4436
    @tylerlittle44363 жыл бұрын

    Great job keeping the ff gauge in your scan! When I was doing my multi training I noticed the same thing... turns out my instructor closed the cutoff without me noticing and because I saw the lack in fuel pressure I was ready the second the engine failed.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tyler, thank you for commenting and sharing your experience with us as well!

  • @jamessherrill3454
    @jamessherrill34543 жыл бұрын

    I would not have done anything different. You returned to the airport, wise move. You landed safely and that is the perfect and preferred outcome. Great job and I would fly with you anytime. Thanks for sharing.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you James for sharing your thoughts and feedback! I really appreciate it!

  • @porthos9502
    @porthos95023 жыл бұрын

    The most dangerous part of that flight is when he parked and Momma got a chance to vent. Love her reaction at 3;24.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing...

  • @Rickshaw881
    @Rickshaw881 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I'm no pilot, but I can appreciate how he determines a potential problem and makes the immediate decision. Always side on safety.!

  • @mostafagamal3553
    @mostafagamal35533 жыл бұрын

    Glad you both are safe! I’m still a private pilot student but according to the info I’ve absorbed till now I think with no doubt this was the right decision to make.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @Parr4theCourse
    @Parr4theCourse3 жыл бұрын

    Good job on staying calm and flying the plane, most likely a gauge/wiring connection issue but better safe than sorry!!!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ron... You are correct, ended up being a wire issue.

  • @Parr4theCourse

    @Parr4theCourse

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonymarks4043 So where do I send the “diagnosis bill” to??

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Parr4theCourse HAHA.... I'll buy pastries from the bakery when your in the area.

  • @Parr4theCourse

    @Parr4theCourse

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonymarks4043 That dog will hunt!

  • @timothyroberts8347
    @timothyroberts83473 жыл бұрын

    Bless her heart that lady was scared to death

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Keli's a great co-pilot but definitely was nervous

  • @Jsgirl30

    @Jsgirl30

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol she Looks pretty calm to me. Barley even changed her facial expression.

  • @goku445

    @goku445

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jsgirl30 you're right, it was a scared look from the beginning.

  • @QemeH
    @QemeH2 жыл бұрын

    Best way to think about it: Declaring isn't saying you're in mortal danger, it's saying you need priority handling. That's all it is.

  • @MM-gw3vx
    @MM-gw3vx4 ай бұрын

    Retired ATC with 31 years. Seven and a half in the terminal environment and the rest enroute. You made the correct decision to return. Pilots are sometimes reluctant to declare an emergency because of the paperwork required. As others have already mentioned the controller may declare the emergency. It’s a good idea to have the equipment staged along the runway. Somebody mentioned that Tony could have said, Pan, Pan, Pan. It’s in the “ATC Bible,” the 7110.65 but I never heard it used and it’s a fair bet that most controllers have never heard it used as well.

  • @mr.movietrailers3591
    @mr.movietrailers35912 жыл бұрын

    The look on her face when he said he had to come back priceless!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @thepurpleufo
    @thepurpleufo2 жыл бұрын

    She says, "I am *never* getting in that airplane again!"

  • @littletrucker89
    @littletrucker8910 ай бұрын

    Aviate, Navigate, Communicate: Great Job! You stayed calm, comforted your passenger, told what was going on, informed her you two where safe and could still fly but simply landing because it's not safe to fly without that gauge and landing right away was smarter before it could have or may have worsened having continuing on with your flight. Glad you two where safe.

  • @mordeath83
    @mordeath83 Жыл бұрын

    From an ARFF perspective, whether you declared an emergency or not, it is always good practice to have fire trucks rolling any time an aircraft makes an unscheduled return to an airport. Condom principal: rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it

  • @brasilandesbrasilandes6325
    @brasilandesbrasilandes63253 жыл бұрын

    As a fellow pilot you did a good job. Glad you guys are okay. Safe flights

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @AV8OR51
    @AV8OR513 жыл бұрын

    You did great! I would've declared if the tower was too busy, but in the end, everything worked well!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I was out of the pattern or the tower was extremely busy I would have declared as well.

  • @Scrimm_
    @Scrimm_2 жыл бұрын

    Does a pretty good job of summing up the reason for not declaring an emergency. Albeit may help ATC in unclear situations, the pilot has final discretion (he's the one flying the plane) and sounds like he had it completely under control. Leave it up to ATC at that point if they want to declare an emergency on their end. No reason to critique this.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing

  • @munroeje
    @munroeje3 жыл бұрын

    Well done, sir! I had a similar situation about six months ago and decided to land opposite direction runway in use, but then again I was in a single and the engine was surging on upwind. Turned out to be a clogged gascolator.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you John for sharing your situation as well. We all can learn from each other.

  • @SquawkCode
    @SquawkCode3 жыл бұрын

    As pilot in command with full information you did everything right and so did the controller. You got the plane on the ground safely and quickly. It appears you and not the indicating problem shut down the left engine back on the ramp and not midair. There's no harm in declaring an emergency especially at a crazy busy airport in the middle of a huge airshow. The controller had the big picture in mind and made the right call. Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @SquawkCode

    @SquawkCode

    10 ай бұрын

    It was great to meet you at #OSH.

  • @Akfordmn
    @Akfordmn3 жыл бұрын

    You totally did the right thing by turning around. You and the controller get 2 thumbs up!! The wife was one cool lady during all that, well done.....

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Bob!!!

  • @benhibma9722
    @benhibma97222 жыл бұрын

    I’m just waiting for confirmation on a flight school. So total newbie here. Seeing this made so much sense. You knew it was working but the gage was not. Great lesson for myself. Be safe and go back if it doesn’t look right

  • @Southernswag8283
    @Southernswag82832 жыл бұрын

    Glad you guys made it down safe. It always sucks canceling a flight but there will always be another day to fly.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Camden

  • @RaivoltG
    @RaivoltG3 жыл бұрын

    Great job, you got yourself and your pax safely on the ground! Great controller and emergency services too, they were looking out for you!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @Henoik
    @Henoik3 жыл бұрын

    Glad y'all made it safe! Yeah, if you have a problem and need to convey that to ATC, other aircraft around you, and just whomever, it might be best to declare an emergency. No-one will blame you for declaring an emergency when you didn't need to. As an ATCO myself I'll say that they probably declared an emergency for you (ref. the other guy being told to continue his downwind and the ATCO referring to you as an emergency), good job making such a swift decision! We as ATCOs don't necessarily know the technicals of specific aircraft, so we don't always know what you need - therefore it's best to tell us you have an emergency, tell us what you need (which you did perfectly), and let us take care of the traffic around you.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree with you Henoik. Thank you for sharing

  • @nickwanerka4462
    @nickwanerka44623 жыл бұрын

    Nothing short then amazing. You were clear headed calm and no time did you even show distress, very impressive and yes your 100% right as you said in your video That you are prepared to fly with one engine. Even the music you added in the background just made it more exciting but glad to see that you're both perfectly OK with the safe landing. Great job and I'll be watching more of your videos now

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Nick for watching and sharing your thoughts!

  • @americandad8903
    @americandad89032 ай бұрын

    As a pilot myself, you did great. Stayed calm, controllers did a great job. And you were prepared for a possible engine failure. And you managed to catch a quick and got in before you got in the clouds. Great job.

  • @chrisspivey3248
    @chrisspivey32482 жыл бұрын

    ATC declaration for fuel issues shows concern and compassion. Her being alert to your situation is reassuring. Bless yall. Safe skies

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Chris

  • @nethfellearnspiano9655
    @nethfellearnspiano96553 жыл бұрын

    Awesome how it was handled all around, from the calm communication to them making sure the bases were covered just in case. Just out of curiosity, what did the problem end up being? Since the engine was still running all the way through I'd imagine it must have still had fuel flow? Failed gauge?

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    The issue ended up being electrical. Double M Aviation diagnosed and fixed. Thank you for your comment and question.

  • @jamiemercer6847

    @jamiemercer6847

    2 жыл бұрын

    that's it it's better 2 b safe than sorry well done everyone

  • @anonymousknightsanonymousd2529
    @anonymousknightsanonymousd252910 күн бұрын

    Yes I'm a terrible person I couldn't help but smile when she ask about a back up gage😊

  • @TheSpaceGeek
    @TheSpaceGeek2 жыл бұрын

    Had something similar happen to me 17 years ago, today. A friend and I had just taken off in a Mooney Bravo, and our oil pressure gauge went to zero. We didn't declare an emergency, and it was, as suspected, a gauge issue. However, we didn't anticipate the right brake caliper locking up as we touched down (no indication of trouble during taxi or takeoff). Took both of us fighting to keep it down the centerline and not go off into the grass. There was a maintenance crew in the grass (because of course there was) and we'd have slammed into them if we'd lost the aircraft. He went on to get his commercial pilot's license and I haven't flown in a cockpit since (not by my own choosing).

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your experience as well.

  • @thecatwiththehats

    @thecatwiththehats

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why did you stop? @thespacegeek

  • @dansflying629
    @dansflying6293 жыл бұрын

    Thankful to live in a country where that is available to you. Glad you made it back safely

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree with you! Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @imarocker66
    @imarocker663 жыл бұрын

    When there is any doubt, there is no doubt! Good ADM to land as soon as possible without delay.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree with you now....

  • @Queitcartoon156
    @Queitcartoon1569 ай бұрын

    I would label this as outstanding airmanship, excellent decision making, and professionalism. Incredible work. Sometimes the decision to go back can be challenging when we have something planned. Although nothing seemed wrong, you still followed the requirements of you minimum equipment list. Great to see this performance!!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @MR-vj8dn
    @MR-vj8dn2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this moment. That was intense. I was hooked! You both acted so calm and professional. I like that the tower took precautions. I appreciate the camera setup in and outside your plane, and the editing. Made my day! 😃 //a non-pilot, just a regular person

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and leaving Keli and I a nice comment.

  • @passofar

    @passofar

    2 жыл бұрын

    By the 2 fwd slashes you "sound" like a developer xD

  • @MR-vj8dn

    @MR-vj8dn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@passofar Close 😊

  • @CharlieGolfAviation
    @CharlieGolfAviation3 жыл бұрын

    Great job and glad you were able to land safely 👍

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @swamprat69er
    @swamprat69er3 жыл бұрын

    It's not like you can pull onto the shoulder and fix the problem. Smart, returning to the airport.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @Bugaboo-wq5sc

    @Bugaboo-wq5sc

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why I like cars better than planes

  • @virginiaviola5097
    @virginiaviola50973 жыл бұрын

    Too many people notice a problem then think that they will fix it in the air. Especially if it’s a gauge issue that doesn’t seem to align with what the plane is telling you..ie, both engines were working..never take risks, there’s no pull over to the side and park in the sky. You absolutely did the right thing.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @cyriaquecharles
    @cyriaquecharles2 жыл бұрын

    For someone who felt you were in no danger, your body language showed you were as nervous as a cat in a room full of rockers. Good job, good judgement. Kudos to copilot for not freaking out.

  • @ralphbisel9503
    @ralphbisel95032 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a pilot,but it seems everyone handled that very well. You almost certainly flew over or very near my dad's house there. Many happy flights.😎😎

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ralph

  • @goutvols103
    @goutvols1033 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the upload. As a non-pilot, it seems that once an emergency is declared, that there is more than just paperwork involved for the pilot. I would assume that the FAA gets involved and investigates everything. Is this the primary reason why there is hesitation on behalf of pilots to declare? Is there something below declaring an emergency; like in this situation? The pilot did not lose power but more than likely a bad gauge. Thanks in advance.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to discuss a lot of what you have above in my next video recapping this flight. Please watch, believe I'll answer all of your answers. Thank you for commenting!!

  • @somenicedutchguy638

    @somenicedutchguy638

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it is PAN PAN PAN. Some technical issue but not emergency. But I'm also not a pilot.

  • @thecatwiththehats

    @thecatwiththehats

    2 жыл бұрын

    This answer my question will check out video now

  • @rileynatalie
    @rileynatalie3 жыл бұрын

    The look on her face was priceless when she realized you were turning back! God bless your most graciously patient & understanding wife! LOL On a serious note, though, her faith in your ability to keep you both safe never wavered. Safe future flying!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us....

  • @algrogg6495
    @algrogg64953 жыл бұрын

    Years ago I used to fly twin Baron for a courier company mainly canceled checks. One rainy night departing out of Orlando lost my right engine right at VR with no room to abort lofted off and told controller that I lost my right engine, I didn't even give my N number and like you didn't declare an emergency but the controller was FANTASTIC on that he immediately declared an emergency for me and parted the Red Sea so that I could come back around for a uneventful landing. I can't imagine having to to fly single engine for long periods and feel extremely lucky to have had this happen when it did as my right leg had the shakes for the short time it was. I was in and out of cloud and being at night didn't help but the controller did a great job and that help keep me calm. I was able to meet him and we are still friends to this day. You did a great job in your situation and I wouldn't have done anything differently...always better to be safe than sorry. Great channel too by the way. Stay safe and blue skies!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Al for sharing your story. Seems like I've read about your situation somewhere. Are you still flying and if so what?

  • @ProPilotPete
    @ProPilotPete3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you, precautionary on your side, controller declared for you just in case you lost the engine. Good job staying calm regardless. Gets your heart rate up regardless!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spoken like a "PRO" ;o) Regardless, definitely gets your immediate attention. Thank you Pete!

  • @tms9461
    @tms94613 жыл бұрын

    Usually, right after the touchdown, the darn thing starts working.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Usually but it did not this time...

  • @alexabadi7458

    @alexabadi7458

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true...

  • @rebeccastone3301
    @rebeccastone33012 жыл бұрын

    Glad you’re both here to talk about it with the people in your lives. That’s what matters.

  • @ricardofogel671
    @ricardofogel6712 жыл бұрын

    Well done for playing it safe. Solute to you all involved for getting you back on the ground safe with no accidents.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ricardo

  • @danroll81
    @danroll813 жыл бұрын

    How much paperwork if any did you have to fill out after this due to emergency being declared by atc? Nice management overall by everyone involved very professional!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm going into this in my next video which I hope to upload this week. Stay tuned and thanks for your question.

  • @bodriver9719
    @bodriver97193 жыл бұрын

    Nice job, fly the airplane! Glad everything worked out for you guys. Wish we would have run in to each other some where along in the week. Take care and blue skies!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I just subscribed to your channel and hope to meet you at a fly-in or airshow in the near future.

  • @stevenclark1973
    @stevenclark19739 ай бұрын

    Too cool... I would have jumped out and used my coat and hud as a parachute. Superb calmness and brilliant landing.

  • @stevemowat4294
    @stevemowat42943 жыл бұрын

    Great job! Just had an engine failure myself at 200ft on touch and go. uncontrolled airport. quick radio call to advise traffic, flew to the ground, took out a fence at the end of runway to avoid stalling over it. Damaged aircraft, bill for $112 to repair fence, but walked away!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your experience as well Steve!!

  • @pilotpeego1820
    @pilotpeego18203 жыл бұрын

    Happy you're both safe.😊👍🏼

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sir!

  • @scottr3141
    @scottr31412 жыл бұрын

    Been an A/P mechanic for over 37yrs, but the experience keeps me out of a plane for the most part. Even used to recover crashed planes instrumentation. Seeing things fail my whole life would take the fun out of flying, less you know about planes the better.lol

  • @loknar86
    @loknar862 жыл бұрын

    i did like the underlying tone of his "her: you got back opp for that? him: not for that"

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing...

  • @4seeableTV
    @4seeableTV3 жыл бұрын

    That poor woman looks uneasy during the whole video. I hope that she also drags HIM to things that SHE likes to do.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Watch our next video…

  • @rossr6616

    @rossr6616

    3 жыл бұрын

    night at the Opera...

  • @HamBown
    @HamBown3 жыл бұрын

    Gauge issue or not, coming back was the absolutely the right choice. Nice work sir and props to the controller.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Completely agreed! Thank you for watching and your feedback!

  • @faamecanic1970
    @faamecanic19703 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding professional Aviation team. From ATC to the firemen! And you definitely did the right thing as PIC.... good job keeping cool.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @BiffBifford
    @BiffBifford3 жыл бұрын

    We have all been there, but now you notched a bit more experience under your belt. You kept cool, but even I, as a viewer, could feel your stress. Lucky for you, the beautiful young lady you had with you remained calm and didn't add to the stress with many questions. Anyday you make it safely on the ground is a great day. Beautiful plane!

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and leaving us your comment.

  • @coreyjordan2745
    @coreyjordan27453 жыл бұрын

    You did a excellent job bro. You did a professional job in landing and returning to the airport.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Corey!!!

  • @coreyjordan2745

    @coreyjordan2745

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonymarks4043 Just found you on KZread. Great Page. Huge Encouragement on getting my pilot license in the near future.

  • @blvany
    @blvany3 жыл бұрын

    Why did you open the exit on the right side of the aircraft when you were taxiing back in after landing?

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was very hot on this day so I just opened the door to get some cooler air into the airplane.

  • @Bugaboo-wq5sc

    @Bugaboo-wq5sc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised Kelly didn't jump out and run away

  • @jeffchristensen1731
    @jeffchristensen17312 жыл бұрын

    I love that your passenger stayed near as calm. A credit to everyone.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jeff.

  • @rkflin
    @rkflin3 жыл бұрын

    You did a great job getting back to the airport! Especially with the lower weather. It would have taken a while longer had you gone into the cloud deck. Good job. The only critique I have is always keep your hands on the throttle when you add power on the takeoff roll for reasons you already know! Great job and thanks for posting this. Love the different perspectives of your situation.

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Kevin for watching and sharing your thoughts with us.

  • @garyjones5792
    @garyjones57923 жыл бұрын

    good 2 see u back flying keep it up

  • @tonymarks4043

    @tonymarks4043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gary!