As soon as Turin pointed out the orks were purple all of a sudden i could no longer see the green skins. I've never seen a purple ork 🫥

Seeing a black orc build immediately makes me root for the Greenskin faction. Even more so when I see the Vamps on the other team! Waaaaargh!

@alexstrozier1534

11 ай бұрын

DA BLACK ORCS WILL WIN!

@bearistotle2820

11 ай бұрын

​@@alexstrozier1534WANNA KNOW WHY? CUZ DAY R DA BIGGEST N' DA BADDEST!

@MagicHjalti

11 ай бұрын

the underorc

@mrl9910

11 ай бұрын

why?

@alexd832

11 ай бұрын

Same

The orcks: paint themselves in purple. Mangred: the enemy army seems awefully small.

Sneaky Black Orcs wearing purple. Cause purple is the sneakiest of colours!

@lordderpington8021

11 ай бұрын

The fact that the Krimson Killerz aren't slightly faster than other black orcs for being painted mostly red is downright criminal to greenskin culture. Or does that "rule" only apply to 40k?

@rolohuilipan

11 ай бұрын

@@lordderpington8021 Only listen that to 40k

i think you might have missed a decent winds of death on the elite orc blob at around 9:20

@imwivstuipid

11 ай бұрын

yeah almost a 1k value wind

@shinyforehead5519

11 ай бұрын

damn i didnt even notice!! definitely makes this build all the more desireable if it can tank a wind and a mortis and still hold

"Oi! Dat git called us off-meta!"

I get that VC have healing so the numbers aren't 100% representative. But it is kind of amazing to me that the mortic engine got that much value and the greenskins were still that far up on value. The elite core put in serious work.

@fridericusrex6289

11 ай бұрын

Look at it this way - manfred costs like 2k, but gives like 3.2k value, mortis is 1400 if i remember correctly and gives around 2.5 value... just those two units inflated the value by around 2500... now whole frontline is healing from mortis and corpse cart, whole army is healing from invo, whole army healing from passive, vargulf + crypt horrors have regen... even with 18k against 14k counts were still ahead in value probably (thats why they were pushing greenskin home objective)

Wow the call back to Jason and the Argonauts. I haven't seen that in a long while. The skeletons definitely move like them and the Army of Darkness ones for sure though.

Two factions I normally don't give two shits about made incredibly fun to watch because of skill, neat builds, and of course Turin. Who is dancing, dancing. He bows to the ladies, and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, he says. He says that he will never die. He wafts pirouettes and chasses backwards. He dances in light and in shadow. He says that he will never die.

It was weirdly stressful to see four high-cost Greenskins infantry units lined up perfectly and engaged without it eating a Winds for half the game.

These are the ‘fabulous’ black orcs. Also strong and independent, don’t need no chieftain orcs.

WWWWWAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

At 9:30 did we miss a big winds of death? And of the OG faction match ups, this is my favorite.

Man it really made my day after seeing a good Greenskin Krumping, watching a cringe Mortis Engine get destroyed, and then seeing the undead hit a critical mass into a deathstar blob to keep it a close game

purple black orcs should have stalk to be lore accurate

For janky skeleton motions, I think you were thinking of 'Clash of the Titans' '81. Real old school claymation.

There's an Orc army? I never saw them. Weird to see the Vampires swinging at nothing. Good battle anyway Turin, keep up the good work! (40k Ork purple reference)

Its cool to see fun games involving vamp counts

Watching the Mortis Engine collect Chevrons was fun :D .

excited to see this! i caught the end of it live but was really interested in it as a greenskins player myself.

Very few things in life are constant, but one of them is VC and the effectiveness of their blobbing. It simply boggles the mind how this faction is still so good at what it has always done since TWW1.

Im glad im not the only one that thought that about the skeleton animations lol

Man that was such a strange vid. Just Vampire and undead dying and fighting against nothing at all.

I'm guessing the summoning curse got him where other units just needed to be on the field, but if he managed to get the mortis out again. Greenskins wouldn't have killed it again. Took both hero and lord to take it down and once they're spent, nothing would have touched the mortis between manfred and horrors.

13:57 love the boar boy squeal 🐷

I've been waiting for that "SWEEE PIG" for what feels like weeks 🤣

BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ

Never really been too deep into greenskins but they are really really hard to not root for, I'm becoming more and more of a fan everyday

Great game, and I do love seeing such an old school GS build. Though I do think having an Orc Shaman would have made life a lot easier for l33chlord, with maybe some brain burstas for popping cairn wraiths, or a Foot of Gork for a chance to nuke Blood Knights

Fantastic battle. Mortis engine really did make the difference despite the loss

That tide of undead was wild!!

Awesome battle!

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGH!

Man, L33chlord is the dark lord of the Azhag. I feel like I see him bring the old Crown boi a lot to great effect

What a nice game by both players

As soon as I saw the black orcs I knew it would be a good match. Greentide ftw

You should upload a short or something with the wind of death at 9:20. Looked so damn juicy!

man, so many shots at game changing winds of death missed. Blew his load too early, would have been money at the end or in the initial clash at point 1.

i think he purposefully went without flying azhag because it wouldve been a single concentrated piece that would be prime target for spirit leech spam. I think maybe squeeze in one unit of skirmish missile calv + spirit leech focus on mortis and not using it on banshee would've been enough.

God I needed some greenskins

Love 2 see off-meta elite builds! I'm always confused by how tanky mortis engiens are, they don't have high armor or melee defense, and I don't think they have huge ressistances but they seem really hard to kill!

I gotta trust Turin's casting skills for the Ork army cause I can't see it.

Praised be off-meta builds

Krimson killa's truly are fast gits, some how holding the home objective and middle solo for half the game. Wish they'd said in the patchnotes that they cast now as well, unless the squigs have gotten some right propa weirdboy stuff goin on now

good to see some krimson killarz action

Have you ever considered doing another complete beginner tournament?

I kinda wish the value numbers showed the value size of each army on the battlefield rather than damage done. There's so many things that it doesn't account for like healing, crumbling and routed off units, army abilities, friendly fire etc.

Do you even cast regular battles anymore?

Over 4k units and not a single missile shot

oh so the weird hockey stick visuals on black orcs when zooming out isn't a low settings thing? heck then i really wonder why CA never bothered fixing it. it'S not the world but in my grimgor campaing i went full black orcs (as you should) and it drove me crazy, it's such a little thing but it looks so braindead! xD

10 seconds in, haven't checked comments yet, from builds alone imo greenskin should have gone for wurzag. Azagh's terror + Death magic is great vs low LD armies and lords that can't regen, so here a lot of value is wated, whereas wurzag can really make those black orks smash the vampire lines before any regen kicks in. The black ork boss is a decent idea i played around with, but again some value is lost since you have 3x black orks with immune to psychology... still can be usefull in mid to late game to prevent reinforcement greenskins (vulnerable to psych) from terror routing, so i don't mind too much. Could be replaced by rusty arrers + night gobo archers for some very strong support, or a savage big boar cav to protect wurzag / flanks. The infantry choice is great tho, savage orks and black orks are great to use when there's no arty / missiles on the field. So rare to be able to pick them actually...

>Purple Orcs >They don't get stalk What is this bullshit?

I think a single catapult would've done so much for the Greenskins. Elite Infantry is cool but ultimately still rather slow at chewing through chaff.

@falma2254

11 ай бұрын

Prob just dies to a single Manfred zombie summon. Without Azhagg in the air it's hard to protect it.

Okay but hear me out... Those dragon bones, are much bigger than the dragons you can have in your army. So, are dragons either child soldiers, or very slow aging?

@DavisJ-ln6fw

9 ай бұрын

It's probably an ancient dragon as dragons continue to grow throughout their lives.

Great fight

Wait where did the orcs go?

Ork warboss gives tp to da boys to mitigate scary shit )

Yo Turin, I think you need to check the vid. I couldn’t see the ork team for some reason. All the vampires just started dying.

WAAAAAAAAAAAGH

You just saw Army of darkness or you rewatched it? I’m going to ask again in a live stream

@turinRTS

11 ай бұрын

Rewatched it! Love that movie

I think using WoD on one unit is a waste

Wow, GS fighting VCs. It is like an acid flash back. Great batrep and cast.

WE'S DA BIG UNS!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

You never cast vampire wins

gg

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh

Hey Turin if in some way i get to USA i would like to get a jug of beer with you mate!!! Cheers on all the work you do! Waiting when i can catch you on live stream sorry been busy lately 😂

Old school Vampire TT lords where great fighters, not that great casters tho.. Can't recall if Mannfred was an exception..

Waaaaaagh!!!!

T

firsT!!

First

upload frequency is feeding my dopamine addiction

Turin I think it would be amazing to have legendoftotalwar play pvp exhibition like u coach him on pvp and he coaches u on pve.

Tbh I hope they keep nerfing magic so the elite stuff continues to be more viable. As cool as magic is, it's not the centerpiece that makes this game what it is. I'd rather see small elite armies viable than strong magic.

@nerath639

11 ай бұрын

campaign players disagree

@firefang225

11 ай бұрын

@@nerath639 Campaign and MP don't need to be balanced exactly the same though (even though they currently are ofc)

@majorfallacy5926

11 ай бұрын

@@nerath639 campaign players would agree if the ai was half decent at using magic

@arc4830

11 ай бұрын

This argument makes no sense, as magic also can counter wide armies (ask Tomb kings how they feel vs Burning Head). You put resources into casters, you get results on what you built them to do. No difference to bringing catapults or Mortis engines to counter small elite armies, so should we remove everything except mid tier infantry and lords? Elite infantry is viable, most games against WoC I'd see Chaos Warriors or Chosen to some capacity, and if I haven't got the stuff to counter them, it's a sad old time. In the same way sometimes you just auto lose to a mega wide army because you didn't bring the tools to defeat it.

@majorfallacy5926

11 ай бұрын

@@arc4830 There's almost a factor 2 difference in value per winds between wiping out a 300g skelly warrior with a 10 winds burning head and wiping out a 1150 unit of black orcs with a 22 winds overcasted pit of shades. And black orcs aren't even among the units that are countered the most. Think Ironsworn/breakers, swordmasters, etc. They are more expensive and get wrecked even harder. And don't forget that there is low armor elite infantry that gets fucked over by a simple burning heads too.

WAAAAAAAAAAAGH