If I called for a go-around as a co-pilot, and you continued as if nothing happened, that would absolutely be the last time we flew together. We are all going to read about you in an NTSB report at some point with this sort of attitude.

Be careful with those clickbait titles, they damage credibility.

@keemez

Жыл бұрын

he ain't got any left :D

@benjaminpeters9843

Жыл бұрын

Honesty I never click on Matt’s videos anymore because of the titles. They’re misleading to say the least. I click on them because I love his content. The exposure to General Aviation done right is what I like

@dand5593

Жыл бұрын

You are right, this was 2 vid on this channel, and sorry but report, and all the rest, never came back.

“Son, your ego is writing checks your body can’t cash!”

@mattguthmiller Hi Matt. I've watched your vids for some time and always enjoyed them. As an airline pilot and instructor with well over a decade of experience, my spidey sense is starting to tingle. I have flown in the States but not to Oshkosh and flown jets but not the L39 so in these areas I'm unqualified to comment. My assumptions are that you're an intelligent guy and you're building a popular channel, and also that you may be becoming aware of a shift from largely positive comments in early vids to some mixed comments more recently. I don't know if you're interested in feedback. As you take on more complex flying over your flying career, your skillset usually grows in concert resulting in a reduction to your risk profile over time. Your transition to jets is a huge step - especially older gear that can be less forgiving. The energy management becomes more complex. If you don't think further and further ahead of the aircraft, you give yourself less and less time to respond to changes. And your ability to respond is further reduced by the envelope in which your jet must remain. At the end of this vid, with the instruction to join straight in, it appears that everyone's mental model of what's happening next breaks down and the seconds of confusion is palpable. You all rebuild the plan quickly enough (you, your back seater and the other aircraft), but from the outside looking in, you guys had to shoot from the hip more than you'd perhaps have liked. On short final, the interaction between you and your back seater about going around or continuing is interesting - this speaks to you having different ideas of what constitutes a problem and I can't tell whether he's speaking as an instructor, a friend or something else. More clearly defined roles from a CRM perspective and a clear brief eliminates the vast majority of this type of communication. The key thing is that during these moments, your exposure to risk is increased and your ability to handle a startle event or to manage and fly your aircraft is reduced, however momentarily. Also, in these moments if your luck turns, you can find yourself very quickly stuck up an effluent river without a means of propulsion. I'd hate to see Juan Brown having to do a vid on your wreckage. Up for discussion is whether you have a responsibility to demonstrate a level of professionalism around self-critique and this could be an editorial choice for the channel. Steve at Flight Chops is excellent in this regard. You're going through a really cool change in your flying - seeing someone learning during and after flights sets an excellent example for those who follow your vids with more than a passing interest in aviation. Enjoy the jet and don't bust your arse 8)

@EricTheBlue2010

Жыл бұрын

A very great reply. His videos are getting sketchier and his basic SRM/CRM and decision making habits are looking more questionable.

@zachmank123

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't have said this better myself. Been a fan of Matt for what must be 4 or 5 years at this point, but as I advanced in my aviation career I've learned the importance of planning-execute-debrief. We don't get to see all the behind the scenes but how many EP sims have you done? How much sim work at all if any? From what I have seen I would not want to be in the backseat with you. I hope you're open to discussion as a prominent aviation youtuber and look forward to future videos that emphasize the safety element.

@twon4212

Жыл бұрын

@Matt Guthmiller Just food for thought my friend i've been noticing the same here and as im scrolling down in each video. Now I enjoy this content ALOT but, it would really put a damper on my and many others doubt by sharing/doing a video detailing your whole preflight, CRM, etc. It might not be as sensational or get the views/ad revenue that these videos do but it may regain some confidence from your viewership. Better yet having another fellow youtuber or instructor that would like some exposure on the platform critique and provide constructive feedback in a video. It would go a long way. There will always be the armchair pilots chirping away in the comments at you but those who truely care and enjoy watching your videos will take something like that in strides. Leads by example for those you aspire to be just like you. Besides, my understanding is, you can always be a better pilot and always further your training. Might as well share that in detail no matter how boring it may seem.

@ericsd55

Жыл бұрын

Airline pilot and instructor here too. I agree with every word buddydid. TEM could use some aggressive review. Multi crew training and lead/wing training required. I don't care what footage was left on the edit floor, there is plenty of context to assess. This aircraft and flying regime requires way more professionalism than what I observed in this edit.

@cessna177flyer3

Жыл бұрын

Agree with all of the above. 21 year retired USAF pilot and 777 driver now. Also, I was in the Cessna 170 on base for 36L in this vid. Small world!

I love your videos and L39, I hate clickbaits though.

@hxhdfjifzirstc894

Жыл бұрын

Agree... clickbait eventually makes me unsubscribe and block channels.

@mattguthmiller

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it would be nice if KZread wasn’t such a trash platform

@Innero

Жыл бұрын

@@mattguthmiller Well after all it is what You, as a creator, make it. And the quality of your particular content definitely brings the overall level of yt way up.

@tyler_russell

Жыл бұрын

Go to a different platform if you don’t like YT.

@mattguthmiller

Жыл бұрын

@@tyler_russell lol, like what?

The lack of clear communication along with the half-arsed decision making shown in this video is disgusting. "I think I got this" is a statement no-one at the controls of an aircraft should make. This is how a pilot becomes a statistic, and it is in no way an example anyone should be setting on the internet.

@brouillacblues

Жыл бұрын

I thought Matt looked a bit glazed over at the briefing stage, never a good sign.

If you're gonna fly formation, know drag recoveries. Especially somewhere like Oshkosh where an overhead break is going to gum up the rest of the recoveries.

@mattguthmiller

Жыл бұрын

Overhead doesn’t gum up anything, it’s much more efficient, but occasionally some controller thinks it might. A drag is not part of either FFI or FAST (the two groups tasked by the FAA with self regulating civilian airshow formation standards), and both groups prefer a downwind break (in this case I suggested a break from base) to separate the flight in a structured, predictable way, as drags have been the source of several formation accidents, hence the great deal of communication here to ensure everyone was precisely on the same page.

@willjohnson3777

Жыл бұрын

@@mattguthmiller Copy. Fly the procedures as prescribed. My $0.10 was seemed liked the recovery got gummed up and "make it work-ish" when denied the overhead, and the straight in separation procedures weren't clear between the different elements of the aircraft. Granted it's a vid and you have a lot to edit. We saw part of your preflight brief and I know there was more there than posted. I'm still a fan, love the vids. Again it was just my $0.05. Blue Skies

@declanjordan3738

Жыл бұрын

@@mattguthmiller damn your attitude is something else, what a prick

Enjoyed the ride. Haven't touched the controls of an aircraft since 1985 ... now you got me wanting to do it again. SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!! 😁🛩🛫

Great Video!! Thanks for sharing

Its not a question of if, but when they'll be a smoking hole in the ground...

Badass video! Love it! 🤙🏽🤙🏽

For those curious - 7:53 Mark on the Electrical Fire referenced in the Title of video.

Where was the electrical fire?

@hxhdfjifzirstc894

Жыл бұрын

Well, you clicked on the video, didn't you?

@rnygaard1

Жыл бұрын

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I fell hard for the click bait, touché Matt!

@cdanielson1

Жыл бұрын

Pure clickbait! This channel has gone so far downhill. I miss the days of him flying with a few friends in Alaska to small towns for lunch. After purchasing this jet his ego is through the roof. He hardly smiles in the videos! Just puts on this tough guy persona.

@RightYouAreKen01

Жыл бұрын

2 second comment after the first flight. What clickbait….

@dcm703

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculous

If the guy in the back really believed you should go around, he needs to be more assertive , and you need to listen. I’m feeling you are close to saturation at times

When a crew member calls go around, you go around! Either you of you co pilot is not seeing the full picture and right there on short final isn’t the place to figure it out, for a safe approach you both need to be seeing and thinking the same things to back each other up. I’m guessing some ref speeds and go or no go points needed to be briefed and weren’t since you guys got cramped in there. For me this was a good example to see on the reasons to prep for the approach long in advance. As a team all 3 crews should have not accepted the approach until it was fully briefed between everyone. The guy in the back needs to be WAY MORE ASCERTIVE! Either call the go around or don’t, half measures often make things worse. “Feel free to go around, we might just… I’m…” 17:01

Great flight. got a few hours in ZF136 myself awesome airplane

Great job Matt, thanks for sharing.

Very nice !!! like thoses cam views

I'm loving this Need for Speed music. Another great vid!

Nice 3 ship into Oskosh...beautiful birds.

Almost every response from Matt is defensive or arrogant. When I was still in the Air Force I knew a few of these guys. Would try to not fly with them. But that is me.

Love this L39. Maybe need cooler paint?

KUES is our local airport. We were up at Oshkosh for the week too. Glad to have you local for a little while.

Great video..thank you..and great flying!

Not the best examples for aviation being set here - You're refused the overhead break and the response to "How are we going to do a straight in?" was "I don't know"? Seriously - You guys should have had a plan for that and any other possibility before you took off! - Especially when dealing with the constantly changing situations every day at Oshkosh - Honestly guys - you really think cobbling this together inside of two miles when you were still obviously confused about how it was going to work out was a good idea? Finally how many suggestions regarding "speed" and "go-around" are you going to ignore with a "I think I got this" response? Again all a result of having no plan for any of this prior to taking off. The lack of CRM here is inexcusable for this level of flying and if even the smallest thing had gone wrong the FAA would be having a hay-day with what you guys provided them to hang you with. You need to quit worrying about how many clicks you're going to get on your video and take a hard look at how and what you are portraying here. One distraction is all it takes to turn a great day in aviation into a tragedy! People and aircraft are lost every year at Oshkosh with guys more worried about "looking good" than making sure they are operating safely!

@mattguthmiller

Жыл бұрын

If a student on a first introductory (formation) flight didn’t like an approach to landing would you go around? This particular situation is not something that’s ever required in a formation flight outside of Oshkosh (and was the only instance of it there), so no it’s not something anyone thought to brief and required extensive clarifying communication to execute beautifully. I imagine all of your flights to be planned for every one of a million possibilities and executed perfectly every time though.

@IdleLayabout

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, and this is not the first example of them getting behind the curve. Fail to plan, plan to fail.

@ronhunt2477

Жыл бұрын

This has nothing to do with a student or first introductory flight at any other airport. The reply to "How are we going to do a straight in?" was "I don't know" Student or not that should have been enough to have 2 and 3 return to orbit Warbird island and each come in as a single ship instead of this cavalier - make it up as we go attitude. Your snippy reply about all my flights being "executed perfectly every time" in response to my post, with out having any idea of my experience, was completely unnecessary, but in reality sadly, an answer in and of itself. I'm sorry that you are unable to see past your response to the issue that I have pointed out. This is a much different level of flying your getting into Matt, and it requires a much higher level of attention to detail. I prefer to see you continue to make aviation videos that promote safety and aviation rather than see you become a statistic over trying to "look cool". Too many before you have seen how that doesn't always turn out like they thought it would.

@EricTheBlue2010

Жыл бұрын

@@ronhunt2477 well put. Glad someone is speaking truth to him. He doesn't want to see it for himself. His recent contribution to the general KZread flying community have been setting the wrong examples for people all in the name of popularity.

@joel1239871

Жыл бұрын

@@ronhunt2477 Ron, you've made a perfectly logical response, but what IS your experience on this subject? I believe it could be helpful in the overall critic of the decision making and add authority to your points.

You’re so lucky to have one of these!

@danblumel

Жыл бұрын

@@mathguthmiller. You are a counterfeit scammer, not the real "McCoy".

Wonderful !!! 🧿🧿☝🏼☝🏼👏🏼👏🏼⚽⚽

Nice break.

Your jet flew right past me this morning, after take-off from Airport #2, apparently on its way to Wendover. The moment I saw it I knew what it was.

I thought the L39 thing was a bit nuts at the start, but I have to admit, you got me hooked!! Very nice job!! 8) --gary

Your next project plane should be an Embraer EMB 312 Tucano. Trust me. You will love it.

Hey Matt I you should do a video on a step by step on checklist and starting a bonanza

Sweet!..

Just the usual video, flexing your money with aviation.

What was up with the electrical fire

Looks awfuly Busy in that Tower

This is so awesome!! Were can we find some more background on why and how you get this bird?

Seems like alot of work, is it fun?

Nice flight Matt and good to see the ex RAF Tucano joining in the fun

I dont know anything about that jet however I think that if it decides to do something bad, it will happen fast and in a way that you don’t expect. Juan, keep an eye on this guy.

The Americans are so gun-ho when it comes to flying. Well this lot are. 😮 If you want a to see how it’s done professionally and safely, I can take you up in a Hawk T2 here in the UK.

Matt, what certification requirements are there to fly your jet?

@grafhilgenhurst9717

Жыл бұрын

Type certification: 1000 hours total time, 500 hours PIC, instrument rating. Then take a course, then pass a checkride. I need to get to 1000 hours first!

Can’t say this was the most professional bit of flying to post up. That arrival was a bit of a cluster f%#k. Spend more time planning these flights and possible issues like this. Even if it were a flight of 2 152s I would put more effort into planning/briefing than this.

dude dont click bait

Min 12:57, el avión blanco del fondo es un Pampa???

I realize being conservative with the 3 flight landing with no overhead, I suppose from the jet the thought of a go-around was a stronger possibility than the camera angles we have but I think that flight was a perfect touchdown considering you had no time to break off and slow to give 1 time to land.. I'm sure is very VERY chaotic and hectic there, but great job either way!! Wonderful content, glad the fire was no big deal..

Nice

Hey there I am at 2:20 ishh on the right!

Ejection seats are armed in these right? So it's not just a military thing?

This reminds me of the old ditty: Kick the tires, Light the fires, First one airborne has the lead, Brief on guard. Otherwise, nice to watch.

I figured for sure the title was clickbait. Sure enough, about 7:55 confirms it was from a different plane. 🤦‍♂️

"I think we should go around" "I think we got this" Basic CRM 101 dictates if a go around is called you go around. Theres been a few videos of Matts that I have watched where I have felt his ego is a bit dangerous. I get that it's cool to get a shot of a formation landing but Matt doesn't know what his back seater was seeing. He's too busy aviating at that point to try to figure that out and land at the same time. Simply go around at that point, have a discussion and go again.

@TheDrInkduff

Жыл бұрын

I hope for his sake this blasé is just an act to make the videos more interesting but in that case he's just being a bad influence for his followers. Matt's earlier videos were much better IMO. Seemed to be much better planned and more interesting

@MartyG144

Жыл бұрын

Matt was PIC. He had the confidence and executed. If anything, the rear seat guy should have kept a sterile cockpit unless he saw an imminent danger that would require a go-around.

@ericsd55

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@kevindennert1646

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDrInkduff better planned in other videos? I remember seeing his video (“didn’t go as planned” when he entered Russia) that video showed a huge lack of planning and thinking everyone else planned for him or expecting others to plan. I believe he also did a flight from the a east coast into Europe and again didn’t plan because he was unaware of European flight rules.

Electrical fire ?

Been a follower for a while now. But this L39 series is just sick and some of the best yet. 🎉

Love the L39, such cool aircraft, and just because of you guys I had to buy it for DCS on recent sale! xD I'd get a real one but you know... times are tough! ;)

@Jack-lp4jd

Жыл бұрын

If it was for damn inflation. Preventing us from getting our own irl L39's.

Damn fine formation landing back at OSH. Nice work, Matt!

Hey Matt, did you purchase this plane? Also wish you would put more context into the process for training in the l-39 and how someone would get there foot in the door for that. Would be great considering I’m currently looking to get my rating to fly the platform. If it’s possible for me to contact you directly for more information that would be greatly appreciated!

@danblumel

Жыл бұрын

@mathguthmiller.. you are a scammer, not the real "McCoy"

Is it me or is that canopy metal beam like right in the middle of the pilot's vision? Seems strange to have it in that location.

Where is the fire?

Did I miss something? Wasn’t there an electrical fire. The clickbait is horrible!

@GorbZZ

Жыл бұрын

no fire it was clickbait this guy's content in unsafe in safety regards to aviation and not even truthful

whats the other plane flying next to him?

I’d hate to say it but there’s too much of the Swiss cheese holes starting to align. When this finally happens there’s going to be no safety net and a good chance of no more content in the future.

Hmmm...I didn't see any segment of this video with the stated electrical fire. Please give me a minute mark...

@brady6720

Жыл бұрын

7:53

@fgb3126

Жыл бұрын

@@brady6720 Well if that headline isn't "clik-bait" I don't know what is. Much ado about nothing, say I. It's the headline and I couldn't even find it!

Great video. Time spent editing rather than posting next day or two after flight really shows.

Brazil 😭🇧🇷

center, can we go hang up around that 747 at 37 off their left wing...

First to comment!!! Looks fun!! Stilll watching

We have not seen visibility as clear as this since 1995

Hey there's Frankie! :)

I’m enjoying all this hot diggity hot dogging on my KZread just glad it’s not going on above my house.

Is your mask clip broken? :p

If your videos were interesting you wouldn’t have to click bait about electrical fires.

@mr.fighterbomber3345

Жыл бұрын

Maybe if you watch the video you would know what the title is about.

@klassicevil5349

Жыл бұрын

Ouch

Agree! .. get a new mic ..

Formation is cool until it’s not, e.g Dallas. Throw in a few more clouds and this would be a cluster F. You have a responsibility to the public not to create a fireball in a school or housing area.

Small electrical fire 😂 click bait

Cringing when you guys essentially said... what do we do now? That discussion should have been long before this point...

@mattguthmiller

Жыл бұрын

Then you completely misunderstood the point

@Mrflightlogic

Жыл бұрын

@@mattguthmiller I was flying high performance aircraft into Osh for demos when you were still in junior high. I think I get it. The unpredictability of the situation is problematic. Expecting the overhead was unrealistic. So, having a briefed plan for touchdown spacing would have been prudent. Just a friendly observation. Cheers

wow - I am not a pilot but just someone interested in aviation, and I have been enjoying your videos for years, but that last "straight in landing" of your formation looked pretty dumb all round.

Very. Jealous! 🤣

Great video as always Matt. Love it. You are an inspiration to all current and aspiring aviators.

Have to agree with your buddy the mic in the mask sounds horrible.

I used to enjoy watching Matt's videos but now I just see how in each video how unsafe his flying has become and regret that I have to share the skies with people flying like this...

@mfbfreak

Жыл бұрын

Not a pilot. What makes it unsafe?

@stevebuscli

Жыл бұрын

You just commented on another one of his videos that you “don’t fly in the US” so this shouldn’t be an issue for you. They’re well trained and being safe.

@Blodsukkerskolen

Жыл бұрын

What was unsafe here? Link to you flying safe?

@rnygaard1

Жыл бұрын

I think you’re safe and sound behind your keyboard my man

@salmiano2094

Жыл бұрын

@@rnygaard1 couldn't have worded it better myself

why are those dudes wearing military flight suits with insignia and rank?

@mattguthmiller

Жыл бұрын

Because they’re in the military

@JamesJoyce12

Жыл бұрын

@@mattguthmiller you don't get to wear your military uniform or flight suit external to your service obligations for "fun"

Matt I’m seeing the training you had is there. Going back to : How I Do This, Formation Flight Through the World’s Busiest Airspace, even Flying a 1954 MiG 15 Fighter Jet 540 MPH. Also you did all the training you did not post to get you into each of the videos that was recorded. Wonderful video you are doing. My only problem is I would like to see more. Thanks again for your posting.

A well briefed flight, clearly. cringe

"I think I got this..." just a polite way of saying: "shut up and let me fly."

I'd get rid of the backwards Russian attitude indicator. It's giving me spatial disorientation, and it's not even bad weather!

What's the deal with the S211 in navy VT colors? And the aircrew wearing flight suits and rank like they're Navy.... Far as I'm aware Navy doesn't fly that plane and I'm guessing the aircrew isn't navy either and they're wearing uniform and rank.....wth is this.

@igclapp

Жыл бұрын

For a tribute operation, it's called authenticity.

@EricTheBlue2010

Жыл бұрын

@@igclapp wth is authentic about it? The navy never flew the s211, and if that guy's not in the service he shouldn't be wearing the uniform with the rank on it as if he is.

@Chris11249

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that guy was an air force Major

The clickbait titles are really unnecessary, they take away from the content for me personally.

Pilot of #2 sounded "unsure" of what to do during the final landing sequence. At one point he says "go around maybe?"...I would believe that if in that situation and your unsure of the procedure or if confused especially on final,,just go around? Give yourself plenty of time to determine what needs to be done instead of rushing or doing something your not confident in at the time.

When you need to slow down fast in a jet, skid it sideways with the tail or just bring the nose high without adding power... it'll scrub airspeed quick. Watch Dogfights from the History Channel.. those old fighter pilots had a lot of good tricks they shared.

@jcheck6

Жыл бұрын

J.A. That is what the speed brake is for.

@jaratt85

Жыл бұрын

@@jcheck6 speed brakes take time, pulling up abruptly or flat sliding bleeds off speed almost instantly.

@jcheck6

Жыл бұрын

@@jaratt85 Get some fighter time then come back and discuss it.

Borderline reckless flying in the last couple of video's. Not good at all. In nearly all L39 video you are confronted with (avoidable) issues that then escalate into sketchy and dangerous situations. It is your duty to know and respect your limits. Especially as a youtuber. A lack of skill and experience combined with a 'push on' mentality is a recipe for disaster. Really saddened by the snarky response in the comments to sincere and respectful calls from experienced others to self evaluate.

Why are you wearing an O2 mask below 10k?

@TheDrInkduff

Жыл бұрын

His microphone is built into the mask. He can't communicate without either having it on properly or by holding it up to his face which is why the other guy complains that he can't hear Matt properly

@martindurkin5223

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDrInkduff all my helmets had a boom mic installed.

@TheDrInkduff

Жыл бұрын

@@martindurkin5223 Yeah lots do and IMO they really should. Matt probably just hasn't got around to it yet

@martindurkin5223

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDrInkduff I think he was just trying to look cool. He’s a spoiled rich kid showing off.

@maddogtank8425

Жыл бұрын

@@martindurkin5223 You can cut that shit now Matt's most recent videos have definitely not been the safest in fact I don't think he should have taken his 1st Flight in the plane when he did I think a couple of things in that video were done wrong and definitely not up to snuff with FAA standard but that's beside the point you can call him a spoiled rich kid all you want but he has had success on KZread and another business venture just because someone is more fortunate than you does not mean you have to sit there and be cocky about it on the Internet if you want to be a pilot yourself and fly planes like this you can it just requires hard work But you're too scared of hard work and dedication to ever pull that off so take that frustration you got for yourself and put it on yourself not on Matt he aint do shit wrong here

@mattguthmiller Ever thought of becoming an Experimental Test Pilot?

I think you guys blame Matt for who you wish him to be but he is not. He circumnavigated the world at 19 and founded a company at 12. He is not an instructor-like pilot who would fly a C172 on a pattern for 20.000 hours making perfect landings after 20 years of such flying. He is an explorer and an adventurer and yes, this is much more risky than flying on the same pattern for 20 years. I believe he does enough to make it safe enough and I am pretty sure he will have even more advanced flying-wise goals in the future. Does he statistically have more chances to kill himself in a crash than a an INS with a 30y experience flying the same pattern on a Cessna? Sure. But this is a calculated risk I believe. I do not think he is doing his flying unprofessionally. The comms are neither airliner-type nor military-type but that does not mean they are inefficient. He flew many aircraft before and has a lot of experience. Airplanes can kill anyone, with any kind of experience and I think Matt does a lot to be on the safe side but also crosses borders and takes challenges and I not think that is wrong.

@Chris11249

Жыл бұрын

Best comment on the video, and is true

Seeing the flak in the comments is disappointing. People love being armchair everything. Regardless of the mistakes made, you landed safe, and sadly many can’t say that. Could that have been better? 100%. Did you do a good job, sure. Notes should be taken though, and changes could be made. Glad you landed safely though, also what a beautiful plane!

First class drama...

I didn’t see anything unsafe, was he behind the aircraft a bit yes but, they had an out. Keep flying keep learning. Every flight won’t go as planned so you have to be ready. He won’t make the same mistake next time. Keep at it Matt…😊

With ATC as bad as this, you really need to buzz the tower once in a while, to keep them in line.

To all you people claiming this video shows "unsafe behavior" I don't get it. Could the landing have been planned in advance for every possible scenario? Yes but they'd never have gotten off the ground and probably would still be planning for this short flight till this very day several months later. Let me put it this way. When Sully Sullenberger took off on flight 1549 do you think that both he and the copilot planned to hit a flock of birds that would disable both engines? I don't think they did. However, they followed the checklist, their training and used their experience to get them to a safe outcome. They even tried a few things not on the checklist to restart the engines before making the ultimate decision to land in the Hudson. As far a CRM goes both Sully Sullenberger and Jeff Skiles worked together to try the restart of the engines and then make for the Hudson. However, Jeff Skiles only had 37 hours flying in an Airbus A320. Thus, while Sully used Skiles as a resource (especially because he was just trained) it was Sully who would make the ultimate call on how they were going to safety land the plane. Just like in flight 1549 something unexpected happened. In this case it was a straight in landing instead of the preferred by Matt overhead break. Matt and the other pilots used their training, experience and CRM to make a safe landing. Guess what? They had a safe landing. While the backseater in Matt's plane said "we might just go around and feel free to go around" he did no say "go around" in any way as to alert Matt that a go around was absolutely necessary. Again we had a safe landing. I'd also like to point out that it is pretty clear the back seat pilot probably does not have as much experience as Matt. I suggest maybe watching the video again to those that disagree. Look at the spacing on the landing as it looked pretty good. I also have no doubt that any of the pilots would have made a go around had they actually needed too. Great video Matt!

Why so many butt hurt comments in here?