A Beaver float plane will never die, they started out with radial engine’s then turboprop’s. The short range needed around the Vancouver islands makes this plane ideal.

@paulkainer269

Жыл бұрын

@Chris Barnes. Weight vs energy density is very big issue with a plane vs say a car. But that being said, where there is a will there will be a way. Should be interesting to see how some try to make it work

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

Ideal: so long as there is no significant weight to carry. Or Mandatory "Fuel Reserve" - I remember doing the numbers on this plane when first announced, the problem with commercial operations isn't "can it fly the route", it is more - "can it fly the routes with useful payload, plus mandatory reserves" (being a floatplane doesn't eliminate "mandatory" reserve energy (fuel proxy) needed in an E-Plane that costs a LOT more in payload than conventionally)... Love electric planes - Incidentally I have been flying e-RC planes (big ones) for "a long time" - how long - "long" (jk) - flown Fuel powered GA - on and off for a while too.

@grejen711

Жыл бұрын

@@kadmow Really gotta get Transport Canada on board with relaxing that mandatory reserve somewhat for these types of runs. Carrying a 45 min reserve for a 20 minute flight seems a bit overkill. He did mention they were getting a 20 minute reserve power on a 20 minute flight so maybe they have a special flight operation certificate or some such.

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

@@grejen711 . Minimum reserve practically (safe not necessarily legal) needs to be at least back to base, functionally Vancouver to (say) Victoria, return with ( 30min reserve to allow for an INTER but not a TEMPO) margins for SAFETY - Who cares if one's energy source of choice isn't economically viable - one doesn't "PLAN" to be on the edge of safety - busting mins means "MAYDAY Fuel" that is a serious breach when the public rely on you and trust you with their lives. -Phone tower after landing to "Please explain", Necessitating Recharging after only one leg would make the setup nonviable commercially - any twin otter with volume and range to spare will eat any eBeaver operator. Lol...

@peterbrook6866

Жыл бұрын

Also would be ideal in the Maldives.

Enjoying watching Imogen's reports. She's a great addition to the Fully Charged team!

@FishplateFilms

Жыл бұрын

True ...and much better to look at and listen to than Jack! IMO of course :-)

@avatr7109

Жыл бұрын

@@FishplateFilms yeah her Indian husband breeds with her

@flyingpanhandle

Жыл бұрын

Ah of course, two thirsty males have to comment about her looks and 'breeding'. Welcome to the 21st century lads.

@tonyhussey3610

Жыл бұрын

@@Degartuo no he wouldn't, but remember not to feed the trolls 🧌

@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347

Жыл бұрын

@@avatr7109 It is our custom here on Earth for husbands to ahem..."breed" with wives, no need to be alarmed.

As someone who lives directly under their flight path into Victoria harbour? I can hardly wait for these to take over.

Always happy to see Canada featured on the channel. It would be great to see a show from my city, Kingston, Ontario. We have 2 new electric car ferries coming that will transport people to and from Wolfe Island and Amherst Island in Lake Ontario. Both of which are dotted with wind turbines, 112 in total. The Wolfe Island Ferry will carry 80 vehicles and 400 passengers. The Amherst Island Ferry will carry 42 vehicles and 300 passengers. These will serve people in their daily commute as well as tourists who travel to the islands in the summer months. We will also be home to a brand new battery recycling facility which will supply materials to the new battery manufacturing facility being built down the 401 (big highway) in Windsor.

@stephenp448

Жыл бұрын

No kidding! That would beat the tar over the present Wolfe Islander running it's diesel 24/7.

Went from Vancouver to Victoria 15 years ago. Great experience and surprised at how smooth the take-off and landing were.

Great to see the harbour planes going electric in beautiful British Columbia. Love that place.

@paulski1080

Жыл бұрын

@Harry Groundwater I'm British, but spent a year working in Whistler way back in 04/05. Best year of my life!

Hurrah! You actually listened to my suggestion. As a Vancouverite I love what these guys are trying to do.

a facinating episode. I love the idea of retro fitting old planes. and it also shows that small scale commercial flying is both possible and going to be common place. a great presenter too. has really hit the ground running.

@grahamstevenson1740

Жыл бұрын

No it'll literally never take off because at best all it can manage is a couple of tens of minutes of flight. It also only is relevant to smaller lightweight 'no frills' airframes.

@alanmay7929

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately those old retrofits aren’t going to be super common tbh! Electric cars/ aircrafts….. needs significantly more modern/lightest materials like composite materials….. to even Maximize in the range….

@grahamstevenson1740

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 Cars aren't really a problem. Their weight is entirely acceptable and they roll on the ground on wheels. Weight is EVERYTHING with flight however and batteries just don't hold enough energy for much more than tens of minutes of it. It seems everyone these days thinks anything can fly if it bolt a propeller onto it. Not so actually. Drones fly because they're super lightweight.

I just love Imogen's commentary. Far be it from irritating - which is what so many presenters suffer from (why? - be yourself), Imogen's lovely accent and voice combination is a pleasure to listen to. And how ironic I should come across this video - I lived in Maple Bay just north of Victoria on Vancouver Island and saw these beavers operating every day from '94 to '99. Retired in the UK now.

Took a flight with Harbour Air on holiday in Vancouver years ago. Got the T shirt! Great to see them going strong and innovating with the Beaver.

I love how they were pioneers and get to be pioneers again. So cool. There’s something so cool about propeller aircraft, especially when electric.

More of this young lady and aeroplanes please!

Imogen's presentation gesture style is holding an invisible football.

@imogenpierce3397

Жыл бұрын

hahaha - this really made me chuckle. I'll go for an invisible rugby ball next time

This video makes me so happy as a Canadian, a greenie and an aviation fan! Well done!

I would love to see the evolution expand to Cessna single engines. A ready electrification modification for a 172/182 would truly awaken the aviation community. I agree, it’s coming, it’s just a matter of letting battery technology and innovation catching up with our dreams.

@grahamstevenson1740

Жыл бұрын

A C152/172/182 would be far too heavy for 'conversion'.

@Noukz37

Жыл бұрын

Finding a electric conversion kit for the VW Beetle is so easy now, so just like that the 172/182 series could be a perfect candidate for a company that is brave enough to get busy with that. 🙂

@grahamstevenson1740

Жыл бұрын

@@Noukz37 As long as you don't expect to carry ant passengers maybe ! That Beaver was just stuffed with batteries and carried niopassengers either,

@jeschinstad

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that fossil planes are designed the way they are for a reason, which is inefficient for electric planes. Electric planes should be designed around the fact that they are electric. For fun, though, retrofitting is nice.

@ericpeters9476

Жыл бұрын

HA also flys 180 on floats. The reason they chose the beaver is there are 3 gas tanks in the belly (95 gallons US) and 2 wing tip tanks.(20 gallons each). They could replace the belly tanks with 600 lbs of batteries with out changing the CG. The 180 has the tanks inboard in the wings, this is not usable space for batteries in a retro fit.

The general message of the video is well done, acknowledging the real issues of electrically-powered flight.

Thanks for featuring my city. We have plenty of EV users here, specially Tesla.

I must say that Imogen is B-E-A-utiful! 😍

For those, like me, who are probably a little confused: Yes Charles Reynard had electric flight in 1884, and the Wright brothers flew in 1903. Reynard was a dirigible engineer (airships/blimps etc.) Don't think that contradicts anything - those concerned, please stand down :-)

Beautiful video. When she said they were pioneers and will be pioneers again, that almost made me cry.

The first time I started up a radial engined Otter is forever etched in my mind. The sound. The power. The smell. The feeling. It makes my heart race to this day just thinking about it. The "romance" of flight will never be electric. It may be "practical"....some day.. but it will always be like comparing a house painter to Rembrandt.

Nice review. Nice to see Harbour Air moving things along with their partners.

Yeah! I am happy to see my province showing up in your show.

The Beaver is not just an iconic sight around here, it's an iconic sound. Are they going to play tapes of that wonderful P-W ridial?

Nice beaver (to quote Leslie Nielson) Love your work 👍

This presenter is new to me, but I'm a fan already! Well shot as well.

What a beautiful adorable presenter and an interesting topic! Thanks 👍

I am really excited for electric flight, as I no longer take pleasure trips on planes as it's not good for my conscience. I live in Nanaimo BC, and Harbour Air has a base operating out of the Harbour where it will be so much nicer to walk when there fleet is fully charged and we no longer have to breath in the diesel fumes and listen to the din of their current fleet. I am so happy with what they are trying to do and wish them every success! Thanks for another great video!!

Really enjoying the electric aviation series from Imogen. Thanks!

The fuel bill must be a big percentage for their overheads, and at todays inflated prices, it must be huge. For their type of flying electric motors just make sense!

@Alessandro---

Жыл бұрын

Thing is, electricity isn't free either ... and since a lot of it comes from fossil fuels, the price of electricity is a function of the price of energy as a whole. Still, in this use case, it makes a lot of sense!

@spokehedz

Жыл бұрын

I've owned cars that I have jokingly said the value of doubles if I had a full tank of gas. I wonder if there is something similar for aircraft.

@matthewspry4217

Жыл бұрын

@@Alessandro--- it's not free but you can fix your electricity costs , with oil power thats all at the mercy of the next potential war 👍

@peterchandler8505

Жыл бұрын

@@Alessandro--- If it is anything like battery electric cars, the fuel costs drop by about 80% (note that is not zero..), plus a massive reduction in maintenance costs. Would guess that the installation costs would not take long to cover?

@yodaiam1000

Жыл бұрын

@@Alessandro--- Electricity is relative cheap in BC and fuel costs are some of the worst in North America. 95% of the electricity in BC is produced by Hydro dams rather than fossil fuels. It costs me about $8 Canadian (about $6.20 USD) to drive 400km in my Kona. To use gasoline in a similar car would cost about $75 CDN for 400km. Maintenance costs for electric cars is much cheaper. That is especially true for airplanes.

Amazing! All beginnings are weak; but well begun is half done. I love this clip.

More electric aviation please!

I'm so excited for this to become the new norm!

The 1884 electric “flight” was performed on an airship. I’m writing this because I remembered that the first controlled, sustained flight (the one performed by Wright brothers) was not earlier than 1903 (for 6km). But the thing is in fact correct if you consider airships in the story.

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

(Wright bros "event" - was specifically in the category of - "heavier than air" craft... no probs there, it is clearly recorded in historical annals.)

@Alex-cw3rz

Жыл бұрын

Well I mean hot air balloon also beat airships, 1783 so 101 years earlier. And as someone else pointed out heavier than air travel is the wright brothers and the others

Excited to see more on electric plane conversions.

@peterchandler8505

Жыл бұрын

Quite agree, maybe look at the Pipistrel Panthera Electro that was hinted at when the Pipistrel flight trainer was covered?

I flew Vancouver to Victoria a few years ago on Harbour Air, and it was quietly one of the most fun things I've ever done - I'd love to be able to go back in a few years and do it again in an electric plane!

The moment Harbour Air can service Vancouver to Victoria on an electric plane I will be booking copiously. I'll hinge my visit to my aunt and uncle in Victoria on this!

Man I wish I was in BC. I'd work for these guys in a heartbeat. Viking Air need to start making new Beavers, Otters, etc, with electric versions!

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

Only the Twin Otter is still (or rather, again) in production. They are considering electric options for something, but not sharing any details.

@ThalassTKynn

Жыл бұрын

@@brianb-p6586 well that's promising at least.

This is really fantastic, thanks so much for sharing!

Great one fully charged! Thanks

Excellent episode

The point about propeller design not having the old requirement is interesting. Never thought about that part before.

Surprised we couldn't see/hear a take off sequence with the sound of that electric powered prop.

Canada was opened, by the small plane, since they were invented. Wop May, that’s a read. Thanks for showing this.

If you have ever traveled to remote places in Canada you probably have flown in a Beaver. They are the best workhorse floatplane on the planet. I hope they continue to convert them to electric.

Good job, keep moving forward.

Looking forward to lots more episodes from Vancouver. Imogen is a great presenter and your production team really impressive - thank you 🙏

Great stuff, nice to see these companies taking such bold and encouraging steps on sustainability.

That was great,thanks 😃✌

Good to see the advert at the beginning encouraging people to travel thousands of miles to 'save the planet'!!

Brilliant! As some1 who grew up in Vancity, I'm looking forward to the 2023 FC Live event 😃 I definitely want to try flying in an electric Harbour Air seaplane. I've only ever used the ferry boats & it's pretty easy to imagine our network of islands being more integrated with this type of travel. Way-to-go, Harbour Air for this wonderful mission y'all are on & thanks Fully Charged for covering this 🙏🏽

It's so beautiful. How amazing. Great video!

The next decades will be so exciting for aviation. (I still think future is trains, but aviation will be always necesary) BTW. Listening to Imogen is pure joy. Maybe the accent. She could be announcing my death sentence and I think I would still smile. Greetings from Colombia

Excellent episode, covering the advantages and the challenges of electrification. Retrofitting must be supported so it can grow from a cottage industry to a normal thing for normal cars.

Great project and interesting video

Well done

Gee...an electric Beaver....well I never?? A terrific episode and what a refreshing change to see Imogen again on screen. This is what I look for as a long time patreon member...professional presentation and interesting topics ! Thanks team. GRegg.

Love the aviation info

Another great episode! I hope we get to see even more companies following suit and going electric.

Finally seeing activity in the superfast CharIn Megawatt Charging Standard MCS

Very nicely done!

Great episode. As a pilot I am super excited about this new era. Loving the channels new presenter too!

Very cool to see this, I live in Nanaimo and actually took a flight with Harbour Air from Vancouver on my return journey from the UK in April

Enjoyed this video.

Great video, great news!

So cool Can't wait!

Very brilliant, thank you for another magnificent video!

Watched from Old Harbour Jamaica

Oh boy could we use one around here! Copenhagen inner city has a one seaplane terminal, which is used by a 1978 De Havilland DHC-6-300 Twin Otter, with two giant turboprops. And the smoke and noise is immense! Yes, it is cool to se the short take off and landing right beside you between the ships, but I sure would love less smoke and noise. It's usual route is 160 km / 100 miles, so it could be done in an electric plane I think.

Thanks for filming the PNW and doing more episodes on electric flight!

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

That's what we call the west coast - it's not north to Canadians.

it's quite a nice looking thing

That's so cool 😎

I've followed this since 2019. I rely on text and static imagery, but this video is next level.

Great stuff! I have flown all over the world in big and little planes, liked the little ones the most, and occasonally fantasise about owning a seaplane. Now I know they can be electrified and retain all that is beautiful and elegant about them, I am going to have to buy more lottery tickets. Thanks for this, nicely done.

Nice beaver.

Love this, the future is going to be good.

cool piece. unique content

*Beautiful airplane! Well done!*

Great video 👌

WO !!! Love it Thinking Out side of the box well done

Oooh - excited that there will be a show(?) in Vancouver in 2023!

Great film 💚 🚁 🛩 🚁

I just cant be the only one so excited for more electrified beavers?

Interesting love this

Brilliant to see, I've been flying rc planes for 40 years and moving to electric was a godsend. Battery tech will get better and motors more efficient , that doesn't happen on it's own though, people actually need to DO it.

Pretty cool project I like that they know there are limitations but they can work with them and still make the concept work for their purposes. Yeah we’re going to fly hours and hours but it’s an awesome concept for short trips!

Love it, I wish you showed the setup under the hood

Wonderful to see a retrofit/reuse idea like this. Not everything has to be brand new, designed from the ground up. If you do a follow-up I'd love to hear about the difference in noise - piston to turboprop to electric.

Using a DeHavilland Beaver as a platform to test electric flight is very fitting. They just keep on keeping on. No better aircraft.

Lots of walking around the outside of the plane. How about a look at the inside and the batteries and even a flight in an almost vibration free plane!

@andymccabe6712

Жыл бұрын

It's just like flying in the engine version of the plane - but less noisy.......a bit like a glider, I expect!! Not difficult to imagine.....

@gormauslander

Жыл бұрын

It won't be like a glider, as at least half the noise of a plane is the props beating the air.

@floatymcboat2885

Жыл бұрын

... not sure a glider has props

@vidznstuff1

Жыл бұрын

Some gliders have props to get them off the ground

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

@@floatymcboat2885 That's the point: the noise in this aircraft is not like that in a glider, because this aircraft will have substantial prop noise. The prop noise is apparent in videos of its first flight, last year.

I always wanted a filet in a seaplane. You have just upped the anti - it needs to be electric!

Great episode, wonderful pictures - what I would have loved to see: An impression of how it feels to fly in the electric plane. How loud is it for passengers compared to traditional airplanes of the same type?

What a great time to be an engineer. I wish I had paid more attention to my science lessons at school. 😄

Always entertaining, informative, leading the field and with the Fully Charged 'je ne sais quoi'.

YES, this is my passion 😂😂😂👍🏼❤️

Congrats Magnix from Safran Cabin in Marysville. Can't wait to see Alice fly out of MWH.

I bet those people hating the electric motor in a DHC-2 because it violated the classic configuration didn't have huge problem with those in the video that have had the original radial engines replaced with turboprops.

The 5 star hotels right next to where Harbour Air operates will appreciate the noise reduction.

It is true. Just the fact that an old plane can more or less easily be given a second lease of life through an electric drivetrain illustrates how much more sustainable electric is. Even apart from the move away from IC engine emissions that is an inherent sustainability win. Prop plane engines are after all amazing machines which cannot just be built on a whim. Big names like Rolls Royce are the companies to do so. After a massive engineering effort. Often custom made for the plane. It is not always an option to just simply replace such an engine with a new duplicate engine when it reaches the end of its life. Though the rest of the plane may still be fine, or much simpler to repair and maintain.

Mmmm, nice Beaver.