Elden Ring History [And How It Broke Me]

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  • @pawnshop_ghost
    @pawnshop_ghost Жыл бұрын

    Something that I noticed specifically about Iji as a war counselor, as much as I love him, is that he's always wrong about stuff and then he says "I should have seen it coming" which I think it really funny because he's wearing the big mirror hat/mask, so he probably can't see much of anything

  • @acksOldPeople

    @acksOldPeople

    Жыл бұрын

    Blaidd: Looks like it's gonna rain Iji: Oh goodness, I should have seen this coming. Why am I such a uselss fu-- Blaidd: Iji please, it's just rain

  • @puupipo

    @puupipo

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@acksOldPeople I feel like someone could make a series of comic strips based on this dynamic and it would be so wholesome and fun to read.

  • @drteeth362

    @drteeth362

    Жыл бұрын

    From software does have a habit of covering the faces/eyes of giants. The blacksmith in dark souls 1 and the giants of Sens Fortress all have metal plates covering their faces. Not to mention Hawkeye Gough is blind and also has a face covering helmet. And now Iji has a helmet covered in mirrors

  • @SIGNOR-G

    @SIGNOR-G

    Жыл бұрын

    @@drteeth362 maybe so they dont have to animate the faces. After all stiff heads are more noticeable if they are giant.

  • @drteeth362

    @drteeth362

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SIGNOR-G I mean, before Elden Ring, FromSoft never animated faces and if they did it was rare.

  • @Taste01RL
    @Taste01RL Жыл бұрын

    Tower of Babylon as a “cautionary tale about God but also a tale about city planning” had me screaming. Fantastic and super interesting video as always!

  • @teslobo
    @teslobo Жыл бұрын

    The point about the Greeks believing the Mycenaean architecture being built by giants/Cyclopes is interesting, because much of Uhl's architecture looks like it has been built by giants. The doorways are always unnecessarily large and the bricks often way too large to be shifted by normal beings.

  • @Ziostorm
    @Ziostorm Жыл бұрын

    One thing I haven’t been able to research enough that ties in with mesoamerican/Paiute history are the Fire Giants being inspired by the Si Te Cah, a race of supposed red hair giants, but I haven’t looked into it enough

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s sooo many overlapping cultures it wouldn’t surprise me

  • @ShadeStormXD

    @ShadeStormXD

    Жыл бұрын

    i mean, that could just be drawn back from norse, thor is red hair and hammered like radagon and the norse are supposedly descended from giants so who knows, but theres a lot of cultural variety and overlap represented in elden ring so could be

  • @NA-yb9sj

    @NA-yb9sj

    Жыл бұрын

    red hair giant? irish? scottish?

  • @pandora3224

    @pandora3224

    Жыл бұрын

    I wondered if they were inspired by Pacific Island tales about Fire and Lava Giants with smoldering flames ever ablaze atop their heads. Those are allegedly part of what inspired the two giant figures in the Moana movie.

  • @porkt3887

    @porkt3887

    Жыл бұрын

    there's also Balor, the irish giant with a large eye that wreaks destruction when opened and is said to embody the scorching sun. He's said to be a fomorian, a supernatural race. he's killed by his grandson Lugh of the Tuatha Dé Danann in the battle of Mag Tuired, reminds me a lot of radagon and the war on the giants. also notable is lugh is associated with mercury

  • @stampede274
    @stampede274 Жыл бұрын

    It seems like everyone eventually reaches the point with Elden Ring where they realize the lore is just too big.

  • @soquality9405
    @soquality9405 Жыл бұрын

    Another thing about the lions is that they used to be fairly common throughout Europe. So kind of adds to the themes that Godfrey's age is over since all the lions are gone

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    That imagery came from their relationship with Mesopotamia and Africa! especially since lions are not native to parts of Europe :)

  • @visperad541

    @visperad541

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quelaag are they not native? I could have sword I heard somewhere that they were also native to Europe but Europeans hunted them to extinction. I very well coul be wrong though

  • @DennisOfDragons

    @DennisOfDragons

    Жыл бұрын

    There were definitely lions in Europe; in historical times even! But of course, their populations went extinct as civilization advanced

  • @MadAtreides1

    @MadAtreides1

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@quelaagthere were lions in the Balkan. There are laws dated to the late Roman Empire to protect them from being excessively hunted. According to Wikipedia there were lions in Germany until circa 60k years ago.

  • @tonib.2371

    @tonib.2371

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​@@MadAtreides1 Hey German here ✋ I'm pretty sure that we had animals called "mountain lions" they didn't look exactly like your typical lion but we're very common in medival Times. And back during the Ice Age we had "cave lions"

  • @nottwo
    @nottwo Жыл бұрын

    Glad you’re giving credit to the Hebrew influence with the fingers. I happened to be watching a lot of lecture videos about Kabbalah right before Elden Ring came out and it seems to me like the game borrows a lot from the teachings of Kaballah. Fingers, trees, cups/jars/vessels for God’s will, and even the shattering are all concepts in Kaballistic interpretations of the Hebrew Bible.

  • @nottwo

    @nottwo

    Жыл бұрын

    Whoops like you covered some of that too.

  • @jackharrow7147

    @jackharrow7147

    Жыл бұрын

    Shabriri

  • @SIGNOR-G

    @SIGNOR-G

    Жыл бұрын

    ((()))

  • @briggy4359

    @briggy4359

    4 ай бұрын

    Elden Ring is all alchemical, which is a gnostic ritual. Gnosticism is a religion that wears the skin of other religions and changes its name, and kaballah is the Jewish version of Gnosticism. It is impressive how From appears to have plumbed the depths of gnostic history so thoroughly.

  • @nottwo

    @nottwo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@briggy4359 they even have the three Gnostic baptisms: water (right after church of anticipation), Fire (giant’s forge), and Holy Spirit (unsealing destined death). I think the Godskins are meant to be the actual gnostics in this game. Some say frenzy is, but I think that’s closer to the madness induced by solipsism.

  • @puzzleheaded6195
    @puzzleheaded6195 Жыл бұрын

    I think you’re doing the right thing taking a break. This game has some deep ass layers and it can really wrack your brain around if you dig deep which you do better than most Imo. We’ll be here when you get back Quelly. All love ❤️

  • @NoSuchMachine
    @NoSuchMachine Жыл бұрын

    On the topic of Miquella being mercury, and the tree of life, I've actually been drawing similarities between the Shard Bearers and the Sefirot on the Tree of Life. So far, the only ones that really fit are Miquella and Malenia, but it's still really fun to speculate. Here are my notes so far: Miquella as Hod - Means Majesty, Splendor, or Glory - Associated Angel: St Michael (Feminine: Michaela) - Alchemical Symbol: Mercury and purification - Represents Submissive Diplomacy - Guardian of Dreams/Formation/Unconscious - Qliphoth is represented by St Michael's Abduction by Demons - Occult association with Hermes/Hermaphrodite and Wisdom (Monad, Mind of All) Malenia as Netzach - Means Eternal, Perpetuity, Victory - Associated Angel: Anael (Masculine: Oniel) - Alchemical Symbol: Sulfur and fermentation - Represents Endurance and Willpower - Guardian of the weak and righteous (St Michael in particular) - Qliphoth represented by demonic ravens spewed out of a volcano - Occult association with Venus and Fertility (Babylon, Mother of All) Maliketh as Malkuth - Means Kingdom/Foundation - Associated Angel: Sandalphon - Alchemical Symbol: Earth/ Prima Materia - Represents Earth, the beginning and the end, as well as the bridge between life and death - Guardian of Dwellings, Life, and Death - Qliphoth is represented by the bridge to the Cosmic Tree of Death - Occult association with Earth, Death, and the Cosmic Tree of Death Keep in mind these are similarities and they do not make up a definitive list of all the relevant traits of the Sefirot For those who aren't familiar, the Qliphoth represent the inverted or hollow forms of the Sefirot, and are sometimes called the Husks. They usually represent the same aspect as their matching sefirot, except they are lacking in balance and are taken to their most corrupt extreme.

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    Ohhh I love this1!!!

  • @Supercohboy
    @Supercohboy Жыл бұрын

    Separate comment just to say wow, the level of detail and scrutiny that the FromSoft team must've gone through to accomplish this crazy lore combobulation is incredible! They managed to represent so much, and to tie their worldbuilding in to the architecture in a manner that lets us compare it to our own IRL, and develop a timeline through these allegories! I love it. The interaction and theorizing has been awesome, thank you for being such an awesome contributor/lore theory person ^_^ Enjoy your break from all of the deep analysis, I had to walk away from Elden Ring for like 2 months before I was ready to dive in to the lore again.

  • @OrdonWolf
    @OrdonWolf Жыл бұрын

    I don't know if this is at all relevant to Elden Ring because I'm a big dummy when it comes to lore and like having it explained to me, but yesterday I was working on my conlang, got interested in Sumerian and ended up reading a bunch about Mesopotamian myths. One thing that stood out to me was the genealogy of Enki (his name means Lord of Earth but he is god of water). His dad was An (sky daddy) who used to be one with Ki (earth mommy) until Enlil (Lord of Breath) was born of them, splitting Earth and Sky in two with Wind in the middle. An and Ki's parents were the siblings Anshar and Kishar (sky and earth, but bigger), who begot them when they met at the horison, and THEY had another pair of sibling-parents called Lahmu and Lahamu, but what's important here is who Lahmu and Lahamu's parents were: Tiamat and Abzu. According to the creation myth, before the creation of heaven and earth there was just water. Two oceans: one above ground and the other underground. Tiamat is the chaotic dagon-like godess of the salted overground ocean, while Abzu is the god of freshwater aquifers and a purifying force. In the Enuma Elish, Abzu is killed by his descendants, so Tiamat swore revenge but is defeated herself, but not before creating the dragons and all other monsters. Idk these Sumerian inspired underground cultures kind of reminded me of that and maybe the Lake of Rot tells the story of a once pure underground aquifer that turned putrid and stagnant in the absence of its water god?

  • @Ramozruler2011
    @Ramozruler2011 Жыл бұрын

    This game has made me realize how dumb I am. I have so much to read and learn about. From the history to the mythology, religion, alchemy, natural cycle of plants and nature different eras of not just man but the planet and lord only knows what else at this point. This game is truly in a league of it's own! If you haven't already, go check out "The tarnished Archeologist", he's new and only has a handful of videos but every one of them blew my mind. Great job btw you are really out here doing some profound work for this game!

  • @khangenghis
    @khangenghis Жыл бұрын

    FromSoft: so here's lore references of the world starting from prehistoric to modern times. welcome to hard mode.

  • @NathanFlanArt
    @NathanFlanArt Жыл бұрын

    Interesting note on the Nox and their Gothic style. I believe Gothic architecture is named after the Goths, not necessarily built by them. The term was used in the 17th century to insult this new style of architecture, comparing it to the "barbaric Goths who sacked Rome". This might mean that the Nox were buried a lot more recently than we may think and may give us an idea of how people felt about them before they were buried too!

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    So the Goths were given the Western Roman territory and it was during their time that those structures were built. Its not to say while they were a normadic tribe they were building crazy cathedrals in the underground, but rather a visual hint that hey - these people - may be involved in taking over Leyendell (Which they are! Given that "Queen Marika" is known as Queen Marika the Eternal, aka, from the Eternal Cities!)

  • @InnsannaStories

    @InnsannaStories

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quelaag Gothic Architecture postdates the Goth culture/civilization by about 500 years; gothic architecture is 12th century at its earliest (and extends into the 17th) and the last of the Goth kingdoms fell to the Umayyad Caliphate in the 8th century. By that point there was already France proper and the remains of Gothic culture existed almost entirely in Crimea. Gothic culture survived in the west longest in Iberia, but gave way to romance languages and postlatin culture by that point, a process that had started as early as the 6th century with the renunciation of Arian Christianity by the Gothic kingdoms in favor of Catholicism. Gothic architecture, in other words, has absolutely nothing to do with the Goths; the name comes from Renaissance architects of the proto-neoclassical movement who sought to emulate Roman architecture, and this referred to this post-Roman architecture as "Gothic". Hope this helps.

  • @tarnishedarchaeologist
    @tarnishedarchaeologist Жыл бұрын

    Buttresses! Yes, thank you! Ever since Anor Londo and its Notre Dame buttresses, can't stop pointing them out, like a dog with squirrels. And yes, Bronze Age Collapse and the scriptless Greek Dark Ages... couple thousand years later, Greek Fire (have a deep dive on that in the works) -Sigh- Yea, it is a lot, it's the whole human corpus, but all of it sooo good. Stay calm (or not) and carry on! Please, it's great! P.S. We called Elden John Mr. Whiskers :)

  • @olecthulhu5339
    @olecthulhu5339 Жыл бұрын

    Much respect. The amount of research that went into this is awesome. I’m fairly obsessed with geological timeline so I was excited af to see you all the way back in the Ordovician. Some areas and enemies like the great dragonflies always make me think of the Carboniferous. Anyway, sweet video. I loved it.

  • @BrokenStylo
    @BrokenStylo Жыл бұрын

    Loving these videos coming from one of my favorite OG Souls content creators! I wish ENB and Spy would return to KZread. Keep up the great work!

  • @sandalpus
    @sandalpus4 ай бұрын

    The branch sword for sure appears in Japan, but it actually originated in Korea. This still doesn’t explain why they used a Scandinavian motif on the talisman in ER. However, it does shed some light on Sekiro’s ending where Kuro wishes to return the dragon’s heritage to the West. The divine dragon arrived from the west and wields a branched sword, so it’s likely that he wants to return it to Korea. I may be remembering wrong, but I believe the type of dragon used for its model is also stylistically a Korean dragon.

  • @Agi5864
    @Agi5864 Жыл бұрын

    There's two aliens now

  • @Radgerayden-ist

    @Radgerayden-ist

    Жыл бұрын

    this is getting out of hand

  • @sfbastion
    @sfbastion Жыл бұрын

    This is the first video of yours I've seen and holy wow, I'm hooked. You obviously did crazy amounts of research for this. I loved the origin of the two fingers and three fingers! Well done! Enjoy your break!

  • @BiZkWiK87
    @BiZkWiK87 Жыл бұрын

    I was today years old when I learned you existed. You are an absolute dreamboat, you crazy history lady. Subscribed.

  • @Proctor_Conley
    @Proctor_Conley Жыл бұрын

    This is incredible! Thank you for all your hard work & I wish you much success in all your future endeavors!

  • @magnopere
    @magnopere Жыл бұрын

    i just want to say I really love your insight and style in these lore videos. If you can find a way to do it without breaking your brain, please keep doing them! Elden Ring is a literary and artistic goldmine.

  • @swamashijudbedolofritt4448
    @swamashijudbedolofritt4448 Жыл бұрын

    Another high lvl content brought to you by lore champion. Keep em coming Quelaag!

  • @mikehattias5837
    @mikehattias5837 Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing. Thank you for working so hard on this

  • @adivolah
    @adivolah Жыл бұрын

    I'm addicted to Elden Ring and to your content. Keep up your amazing work! ✌🏻😊

  • @someguy4405
    @someguy4405 Жыл бұрын

    “broke me” is definitely how i’d describe those notes

  • @JaxKangaroo
    @JaxKangaroo Жыл бұрын

    your videos are insanely good i cant stop watching

  • @NeuroPulse
    @NeuroPulse Жыл бұрын

    Extremely good research, as always. Thank you Quelaag.

  • @foogoowoman9523
    @foogoowoman9523 Жыл бұрын

    Yoooo, new alien just dropped

  • @pandora3224
    @pandora3224 Жыл бұрын

    Im just here to say I was here on September 19th, 2022 to say that this video is proof that our universes Elden Ring is on the list of best video games of all time.

  • @Firestorm6651
    @Firestorm6651 Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god. I can see your eyes growing on the inside.

  • @underhilljulian2782
    @underhilljulian2782 Жыл бұрын

    Esoteric philosophical debates with Xing is the absolute best thing to listen to while relaxing before bed. ASMR.

  • @mystory2914
    @mystory29143 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the delve into the deep end, getting some air is a good idea.

  • @forlidman
    @forlidman Жыл бұрын

    How is this the first time I've see your work. Good shit and keep it up.

  • @reccaman
    @reccaman Жыл бұрын

    This has been a gem. Thank you

  • @dynactin8908
    @dynactin8908 Жыл бұрын

    Just a tidbit - a pattern similar to that found on the Fingerprint Shield is on the blade of the Omen Cleaver along with text describing it as a "deteriorative malediction".

  • @TUC12341
    @TUC123419 ай бұрын

    I have not watched this just yet, but I just want to thank you for your sacrifice. I can’t even begin to think about how many things are in this video. I just got into elden ring lore and vaati suggested you and I can’t wait to devolve into madness (Edit: also its Or-doh-vish-ean)

  • @andrewspew
    @andrewspew Жыл бұрын

    You deserve rest. Don't burn out on us. We love you. Please take a break. 🥲

  • @TheDrHahn
    @TheDrHahn Жыл бұрын

    Ooh, starting now, and this already looks good

  • @SomeRandomGuy1098
    @SomeRandomGuy1098 Жыл бұрын

    What a good video Hope you have a nice break

  • @0The_Farlander0
    @0The_Farlander0 Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to you talk about eldin ring lore all day, and probably will

  • @adradox
    @adradox Жыл бұрын

    Having Greater Will dancing in the corner was a nice touch to this video.

  • @wraithwrecker_
    @wraithwrecker_ Жыл бұрын

    HOLY SHIT, IT'S MOAR LOAR!!!! Absolutely loving your videos recently, hope you're doing well! Edit: also, I love how we keep adding more aliens. It represents the madness in all of us. Edit edit: I know your tone is totally in jest, but there is a lot of reason to doubt that humans lacked language during the height of the stone age. I've mentioned The Dawn of Everything before, which covers the recent research on the topic. But Elden Ring is probably operating with more typical assumptions, which is why it goes for the beast thing, like you said. But it is interesting to note that this trope doesn't seem to be supported archaeologically. (this also goes for things like politics, rights, and broader social practices; it seems humans have been pretty much doing that stuff since we first evolved) Edit Edit Edit: Great analysis. Your take away at the end is fucking perfect. S tier. Fuck yes. Also, wonderful that you're considering a break to avoid burnout. Put you first!

  • @Crembaw
    @Crembaw Жыл бұрын

    You've probably already gone on a break and more power to you, but I did want to mention something that there is a connection to Mayan and Mesoamerican mythology, though perhaps not a robust one. The Hero Twins' origins could be seen as having influences in the stories of Morgott and Mohg and their Omen curse.

  • @WithinandThroughout
    @WithinandThroughout3 ай бұрын

    35:24 the flower of life also directly applies geometrically to the pentatonic scale.

  • @fakename4683
    @fakename4683 Жыл бұрын

    This blew my mind. Thanks.

  • @mesastreatexit
    @mesastreatexit5 ай бұрын

    dancing aliens, Dragon Quest music, a completely unhinged archaeology timeline mindmap, and a fun low key narration packed with cool insights??? 🎉

  • @X9Z17
    @X9Z17 Жыл бұрын

    Curious to know your thoughts on the resemblance of the giant statues of old bearded men holding tablets to their chests found at the Uhl + Uld Ruins, and the trolls with a tablet inside their chest.

  • @TeoReviews
    @TeoReviews Жыл бұрын

    So.. as a Brazilian and a huge souls fan with a real strong desire to see more of that part of the world in sci-fi and fantasy... what folklore is being referenced and what is the reference itself?! Stoked about it.

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    The guaraná!!! My whole family is from Mexico, but then my dads family is polish / Swedish. I want to see more mesoamerican myths and stories >:0

  • @TeoReviews

    @TeoReviews

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quelaag Thank you so much! Hopefully that change to Namor in the Black Panther sequel makes it trendy AND affordable to have more Mesoamerican stuff!

  • @TeoReviews

    @TeoReviews

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quelaag Also Guarana is an amazing soda if you ever stumble upon it ahah

  • @literaldevil996
    @literaldevil996 Жыл бұрын

    That miro board would make a lovely irl wallpaper.

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman92633 ай бұрын

    thank you for showing me the world of miro theory-crafting and throwing-shit-at-the-wall-and-hope-that-it-sticks art.

  • @nomaloney
    @nomaloney Жыл бұрын

    I do in fact love it, and I do in fact love to see it

  • @Intentionallyfrogged
    @Intentionallyfrogged Жыл бұрын

    great video my friend

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman92633 ай бұрын

    I'm back here and I- I love the increasing amount of aliens.

  • @AGermanSpy
    @AGermanSpy Жыл бұрын

    Just looking at the virtual corkboard broke me.

  • @lunah33
    @lunah33 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel is amazing but please take a break if you have to

  • @LOLFLUSHDRAW
    @LOLFLUSHDRAW Жыл бұрын

    youre my favorite person

  • @picklepixelpaperpepper8487
    @picklepixelpaperpepper8487 Жыл бұрын

    depictions of omaru (incan) resemble the serpent god's curved sword and lives in a mountain. K’uk’ulkan is a mayan serpent god that was born a boy in some stories, and a pet to the sun god. the statues even look like the second stage of the serpent boss fight, with a face coming out of the mouth. paraphrasing a LOT. been trying to find out wtf with the serpent god and why the bow was where it was

  • @traviass
    @traviass Жыл бұрын

    The dragon quest music a bop

  • @zacthompson784
    @zacthompson784 Жыл бұрын

    What application do you use to produce these? Looking for that exact kind of software!

  • @CarbonDoggie
    @CarbonDoggie Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the ancients had little Elden John shrines in their homes

  • @NamiMatsui8822
    @NamiMatsui8822 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! What is the program you use to map out your thoughts? I remember you talking about it in a video but I can't find it!

  • @peteirrook8556

    @peteirrook8556

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw your comment cause i was also looking for the program and it took few hours lol but if u still havent found it it should be “Miro” or “miro whiteboard”

  • @weiss9748
    @weiss9748 Жыл бұрын

    I see we have one more dancing alien this time

  • @KillerKittyYT
    @KillerKittyYT Жыл бұрын

    You got mentioned in the new smoughtown video!!!

  • @Satorotas89
    @Satorotas89 Жыл бұрын

    Bruh this is fascinating af

  • @eviehorton985
    @eviehorton985 Жыл бұрын

    This video is so cool!

  • @eviehorton985

    @eviehorton985

    Жыл бұрын

    What about the relationship between arranging circles on the flower of life to create the tree of life and the series of circular runes that make up the elden ring?

  • @aldosalas2722
    @aldosalas2722 Жыл бұрын

    I think that if you look at the banner at the East capital Rampart, that is the earliest tree adoration and the banner with the skinny tree was the original and now if you see the symbol in the Elden Throne you see that the Erdtree and the rings were put in in the skinny tree (East Capital Rampart tree) Is like they say that the confusion is whether there is a great tree and erdtree and where is it, well they are intertwined and that is the symbol in the Elden throne. because you can see the skinny tree that is in the banner in the symbol. IMO.

  • @Supercohboy
    @Supercohboy Жыл бұрын

    21:24 Two things, originally I saw this symbol and realized that it resembles a fork when turned upside down. This may have inspired Mohg's trident weapon design. Additionally, I have a wild speculation. The staff thing that looks like it has a primordial fire coming out of the top, held by two bears (?)...it looks familiar. It's not even close to a 1-to-1 representation, but doesn't it look kinda like Mohg's Sacred Spear? The staff even has a slightly smaller handle-area towards the bottom of the shaft, and there's at least one thickened band that is placed in a similar location to one of the bands on the spear. And...there's fire coming out of the top of it, and these weird laurels all around the staff in an AoE... Maybe that "bird" at the bottom of the staff isn't an object, but is signifying an /action/ , like slamming the spear down onto the ground? What if Mohg's Nihil ritual (which uses blood*flame* power) is a mix of old and new, with the ritual being based on an even-older Uld ritual of some sort, albeit adapted to the Formless Mother's power? Is there, dare I say, any connection between the Formless Mother and the Uld, and therefore possibly a reason that Mohgwyn was led by Her to go squat on ancient burial grounds? Probably not, but I could at least see Mohg going through ancient Uld tablets and learning about their incantations, resulting in his spin on it/the Bloodflame incantations.

  • @Photoloss
    @Photoloss Жыл бұрын

    Worth noting the ancient Minoan civilisation had both advanced bureaucracy _and_ cannibalistic tendencies not at all matching the Ancestral Followers. The myth of the Minotaur is meant to demonise them but that depiction doesn't match Elden Ring either as the Minotaur very obviously is _not_ spiritual at all but rather an unintelligent carnivorous monster. I wonder how much of this is actually meant to evoke a chronological order rather than simple disparity. We know of certain civilisations existing at the same time in Elden Ring but that includes Godfrey's Leyndell, the Bronze Age-inspired Fire Giants and the "Ancient" Dragons under Gransax. The Fire Giants are said to be the first to have invented smithing, fought (and won) against the _modern_ ice wyverns, lived alongside the Astrologers who would move to Raya Lucaria and yet we are supposed to believe that after their initial invention they never progressed beyond Bronze Age technology right until Marika and Godfrey wiped them out? And the dragons had an Elden Lord entombed below Farum Azula despite Godfrey supposedly being the first, plus a root-covered Elden Ring design, and Farum Azula itself mixes really ancient RL burial practices with quite elaborate architecture with columns, balustrades and domes as well as candelabras on par with a menorah. We also know some architectural elements have to be deliberately "retro" if you compare Elphael to Leyndell and Farum Azula so I doubt we can draw a proper timeline from similarities to RL historical architecture. And why isn't there any ancient Egypt in Limgrave or Caelid?

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    But they are cannibalistic! Check out the Winged Greathorn Staff. They use the life force of others or those who "don't grow horns" to feed to the soul of the ancestral spirit! "In the ancestral spirit-worshipping faith, these are considered envoys' wings, made to reap the lives of beings which experience no sprouting." Check out the move on the ancestral follower as well! It has the ability to absorb the small animal spirits in the arena to regen health! :D

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not really supposed to sit literally on the isle of crete, but rather the timeline follows an amalgamation of cultures and their histories as it develops into the early sciences. Its a folktale, similar to how game of thrones is about Great Britains "War of Roses".

  • @augustuslxiii
    @augustuslxiii Жыл бұрын

    I'm all "I've played through Elden Ring twice and I have a history degree, so I'm pretty good at Elden Ring lore."

  • @Xanderj89
    @Xanderj893 ай бұрын

    25:08 “They never met, kinda confusing” more to my theory that it’s duality, taking a similar idea from west and east and saying they are interpretations of the same underlying concept

  • @user__214
    @user__214 Жыл бұрын

    Love this video! Thanks for doing this. One question: are you saying "Uld Palace" when you mean "Uhl Palace"? (These are different places, both in Elden Ring.) Uhl is the one that is underground.

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    So they are the same culture but I think the names change whether they’re topside or bottomside. It’s a alchemical thing “as above so below” I’ll make a video on it

  • @user__214

    @user__214

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quelaag Cool, thanks for the response!

  • @DogMechanic
    @DogMechanic Жыл бұрын

    The animal carvings also remind me of Gobekli Tepe.

  • @MMZS528
    @MMZS528 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Quelaag! Can I ask what mind map program you are using?

  • @McSwift0421
    @McSwift0421 Жыл бұрын

    So the Moses lookin' guy and his tablets... do the tablets have anything to do with the tablets in the chests of the giants? They look familiar but I've never been able to get a closer look. I did notice that often the tablet Moses-man is holding looks like it has roots/vines growing out of it, which of course the giants have as well.

  • @yao5205
    @yao5205 Жыл бұрын

    here's the queen marika without the lack

  • @gilgamesh1148
    @gilgamesh1148 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to add a possible connection with babylonians The giant walls of leyndell might be inspired from From the walls of uruk which was built by Gilgamesh a mythical demigod to protect the city. Also godfrey might be inspired by Gilgamesh both are demigods both are warrior Kings both have lion's as symbols and shown with a lion's in arts and statues finally both are on a quest to get their powers back Gilgamesh to gain immortality and be q full god and godfrey to become an elden lord which mean godhood.

  • @colorpg152

    @colorpg152

    Жыл бұрын

    wasnt there a primordial beast men who was he enkidu or something?

  • @gilgamesh1148

    @gilgamesh1148

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colorpg152 yep

  • @colorpg152

    @colorpg152

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gilgamesh1148 i think he was lured to civilization and lost his bestial part and couldnt talk with animals or something, also something to do with inana or was it ishtar?

  • @gilgamesh1148

    @gilgamesh1148

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colorpg152 yes the God's created him to stop gilgamesh tyrant rule over his poeple they fought almost destroy half of the city after the fight they became best friends

  • @dannyd.9932
    @dannyd.9932 Жыл бұрын

    Oh good I’m not the only one who makes these graphs

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 Жыл бұрын

    ambitious😶‍🌫

  • @angeloromero9871
    @angeloromero9871 Жыл бұрын

    What is the name for the style of diagram featured in the video for mapping out the lore?

  • @claytronifon
    @claytronifon Жыл бұрын

    Silver Alien has the moves

  • @cabellism
    @cabellism Жыл бұрын

    Watching your amazing video, and I had to stop @ 2:59 and just stare and think about what im seeing. The civilization that we know, and only know, it is a baby compared to the ones that came before it. It is just truly mind-boggling. My question is, Are we as a human species in this/our current civilization, are we going to make it? or are we just going to end ourselves? (honest question considering the things that are brewing today between Russia/Ukraine/NATO, etc)How can we stand up to the giants that came before us? And has technology been our downfall?

  • @ioncewasmikey

    @ioncewasmikey

    Жыл бұрын

    Lot of evidence to suggest the planet is heading toward a catastrophic solar event... that's likely going to take care of civilization & technology all at once. Sucks but that's the way it's looking. Edit- that same evidence points to similar past events playing roles in the downfall of past civilizations as well.

  • @cabellism

    @cabellism

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ioncewasmikey I guess we will be getting the Frezied Flame ending i see.

  • @lovesiriusblack

    @lovesiriusblack

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing to do but wonder about it until it happens, so does it truly mater or deserve your immediate attention? That's the only answer my brain can come up with

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    Life, and systems of power, engage in change and are temporary. Our sun and planet are temporary. We are temporary. But don’t give into despair about it (frenzied flameee) Mortality and things ending and beginning anew is divine as it’s a part of nature! It’s just hard to feel it or see it because a lot of societies idealize the idea of immorality There is a great Buddhist monk named Thic Nhat Han who actually had a KZread channel called plum village. He had a great talk about what is the hardest thing to do for a monk. He said it’s despair. He survived the Vietnam war trying to rebuild villages that kept getting destroyed. He said to not despair was important in achieving that

  • @jackharrow7147
    @jackharrow7147 Жыл бұрын

    you know how people talk about having those "oh wow" moments when they come upon a new area that seems too big to have been completely hidden as well as it was? I just had that experience with the lore, so thanks

  • @johnsilverman656
    @johnsilverman656 Жыл бұрын

    Possibly a dumb question but what program is this, with the post it notes etc… that looks hella useful

  • @MapleFried

    @MapleFried

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe it's Flowchart

  • @diandrea4
    @diandrea4 Жыл бұрын

    I got one word for you: Moon Presence

  • @danmaertens7872
    @danmaertens7872 Жыл бұрын

    We are predisposed to seek out patterns to make sense of our reality. It can become a trap that fascinates us, to be fascinated by a symbol, and trapped by it. Not a bad thing, I can go in circles seeing symbols and inspiration in aspects of Elden Ring, Jungian patterns very easily, the heroes myth, etc.

  • @DerpyBerb
    @DerpyBerb Жыл бұрын

    34:21 no picture of the twin-bird kite shield on the right?

  • @Asterati
    @Asterati Жыл бұрын

    I was fucking right when I thought I recognized hebrew on that tablet in game I'm so happy you confirmed it

  • @wingsweeping
    @wingsweeping Жыл бұрын

    What program is that?

  • @axelstoner
    @axelstoner Жыл бұрын

    Now imagine what civiliation fell during the mass impact 12000 years ago

  • @_mossmoth_
    @_mossmoth_5 ай бұрын

    its kinda interesting cause george r.r. martin did an interview with stephen colbert and he said "what [fromsoftware] wanted me to write was what happened 5000 years before that that totally screwed up the world" and all of the historical places talked about in this video go back about 5000 years from modern day. so maybe modern day elden ring, if were saying miyazaki is pretty much copying human history almost to a t, is 10000 years in the future from those tablets and obelisks and what not. i dunno im high

  • @zakaryrichmond396
    @zakaryrichmond396 Жыл бұрын

    Once you showed the obelisk in the previous vid it shattered my thoughts on what the lands between were and now I'm so much more lost. I need to know what is with the accents its the only part I dont get

  • @botmushin8878

    @botmushin8878

    Жыл бұрын

    You're able to freely summon spirits that manifest into the corporeal realm.. the lands between are simply the lands "between". A place where all time converges.

  • @zakaryrichmond396

    @zakaryrichmond396

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botmushin8878 not according to this theory this makes the would look like more of a mirror of ours than it ever has

  • @botmushin8878

    @botmushin8878

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zakaryrichmond396 Yes this is what I meant. What if I told you that it's always been the case in all of their games and the "lands between" is just another name?

  • @zakaryrichmond396

    @zakaryrichmond396

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botmushin8878 but what if it isn't on the Obelisk we can see depicted the people here before marika and all of them arriving on ships and creating the uld Dynasty which collapsed for unknown reasons we see the apothecaries trying to create life after being shunned "Underground" to their Gothic cities by a Christianity fill in. In her videos she has tried to claim that this is "the lands between" the two rivers in northeastern Africa and what I want to know is why the fuck is everyone speaking in uk based accents I'm trying to partake in this Theory without just giving up and saying that all time is converged into one place so we should give up on any Sensibility

  • @zakaryrichmond396

    @zakaryrichmond396

    Жыл бұрын

    @@botmushin8878 sure all time being converged in one place is a fun concept but she is making me think that there's something more here and I can't ignore that to say that they just layered all of society on top of each other

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom Жыл бұрын

    Your channel pfp is adorable, I started following your channel back when DS1 came out and EpicNameBro gave you a shoutout. Crazy how it's been so long, glad to see you're still ballin outta control🤌🤌🤌

  • @cloudbloom

    @cloudbloom

    Жыл бұрын

    HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM AGERMANSPY IS HE OK???

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cloudbloom yes! He’s supposed to send me tea soon

  • @cloudbloom

    @cloudbloom

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quelaag I can sleep soundly now thanks🙏

  • @Ultracity6060
    @Ultracity6060 Жыл бұрын

    It occurred to me a while back that in the Lands Between, immortal souls seem bound in an eternal cycle of being born into the world, living, dying, and returning to a pool of souls to start over (currently that's returning to the Erdtree, but the cycle seems older than that). Meanwhile, the Outer Gods seem to be in constant dispute over who gets to design the mortal shells those souls inhabit during their time walking the realm. The Greater Will seems to like meat people (even its envoys are big meat fingers), as does whatever God made the Twinbird and the Deathbirds. But then you have whatever send down a meteor that created the Onyx lords (and their kin), and whatever made the Crystalians, which seems to be going for mineral people. Then there's whatever made the dragons, and the giants, and the trolls, and so on and so forth. If you ask me, that really doesn't sound _that_ dissimilar to the Aztec creation myth. It's possible there's some connection there.

  • @nbmoleminer5051

    @nbmoleminer5051

    11 ай бұрын

    O wouldn't say that the Greaterwill created the Ancient Dragons and they are literally Rock and Gold with very little organic based flesh.

  • @moopster1558
    @moopster1558 Жыл бұрын

    Know if you like this kinda stuff I think you'd be into this game called Elden Ring. Idk I just feel like you'd like it

  • @nihilusvex5862
    @nihilusvex586211 ай бұрын

    Is this board available anywhere?

  • @jamesm1
    @jamesm14 ай бұрын

    To send you down another rabbit hole of potential real life inspiration, look up Australian aboriginal art and myths. Their oral histories are literally the oldest on the planet, going back to the very begining of their time in Australia 50,000-70,000 years ago, even mentioning Megalania, which went extinct several tens of thousands of years back and was the biggest reptile species to ever walk the earth.

  • @stevenwetherbee7573
    @stevenwetherbee7573 Жыл бұрын

    The Numen, who built the Nox cities, are not from the Lands Between so their architecture should be an anomaly. The only real timeline requirement is that they must have been in the Lands Between before the establishment of the Erd Tree since Marika is one of them.

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, just like the Goths, who are not from Mesopotamia or Meterteranian societies. Theyre nomadic people from germany! So theyre effectively "alien" which is reflected in gothic architecture.

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    holy shit Mediterranean**********

  • @carnamate
    @carnamate Жыл бұрын

    i am 4 minutes and 46 seconds in and i can't believe this is a real video

  • @quelaag

    @quelaag

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah imagine how i feel

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