ADDITIONS/WHAT I MISSED FROM 1.00: Since Loretta was an "Arbor Sentinel" and Miquella was the Scion Empyrean in 1.00, Malenia being an "Arbitress" "implies that the earlier story may have been one wherein the Trees themselves were in more direct opposition to one another, the Haligtree being a plot by many demigods to supplant(pun) the Erdtree. That Malenia is an "Arbitress" in 1.00 can mean one of two things: she is a cultivator of a Tree (Arbor) or she is female mediator between two sides in conflict (an arbiter). It is a nice GRR Martin pun." kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIJ8vNSDZaWviKg.html&lc=UgyGO8IzfRHxBAHW-l94AaABAg Some of Miquella's soldiers wear an Ivory-Draped Tabard, so there is still a connection between Miquella and ivory in today's version: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIJ8vNSDZaWviKg.html&lc=Ugw-fDKvfVnV26YV27V4AaABAg Sceiron in Greek mythology robbed people by making them kneel down before kicking off a cliff, where they would be devoured by a giant tortoise. So it's possible he may have been an inspiration to FromSoft in creating Patches, and in the lore of the game, I could see Sceiron being a mentor figure to Patches, but that is massive speculation. (Also, DAE want to see a Patches-Tortoise Duo Boss in the DLC?) kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIJ8vNSDZaWviKg.html&lc=UgyGO8IzfRHxBAHW-l94AaABAg.A4ZFop33r9QA4ZSdoKYjp8 Ad-free versions of this video are available to Patrons and Members! Joining also grants you early access: www.patreon.com/posts/i-restored-all-1-105854713 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXl31ZegadLXdLg.html My theory on the identities of the Gloam-Eyed Queen: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nmmM25mgdciZgMY.html Why Radagon is the True Antagonist of Elden Ring: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pHunrNdpYdK9Yqw.html Theory for why we have to fight Radahn to access the DLC: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnyottl_aLiWY5c.html Why the Goldmask Ending is Elden Ring's Best Ending: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIloo9SNe8eZZrA.html

@dgalloway107

Ай бұрын

I have the 1.0 installed on my ps4 for this reason.

@xavierbrown8848

25 күн бұрын

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@vanitasdarkness8795

18 күн бұрын

Honestly miquella a guy and we should be ok with a guy being that pretty and not thinking he’s Tran lol even though he does have two identities like his mom with Saint Tryna.

@tarikbajric1449

4 күн бұрын

the clipoth is most certainy not a tree of death, making up bullshit, more modern interpretations?? do you even know what the clipoth consists of for gods sake.

1:09 :23 The Banished Knights are there due to Morgott “One of the two knights known as the Wings of the Storm. After his banishment, he attracted the notice of the *Grace-Given Lord* and later, having slain a hundred traitors as the Lord's hand, Oleg earned the hero's honor of Erdtree Burial.” Morgott is called the Grace Given by Gideon confirming this: “Morgott the *Grace-Given* is Lord of Leyndell, the capital city. It lies at the foot of the Erdtree, in the east of the Altus Plateau.” “One of the two knights dubbed the Wings of the Storm. Despite his banishment, he rejected the invitation of the *Grace-Given Lord* instead keeping watch over a masterless castle for many years, gaining renown as a hero of the fringes” You can also see the Hawk symbol in the Outer walls of Leyndell as well as Banished Knight and Exile knight armor spread across the area (Which is unique to this area, no other place has Banished Knight armor in the ground like that.) Mean they participated in the defense of Leyndell. This still remains true for both versions of the game.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Great point! Plus IIRC we have their armor sets in the Roundtable Hold as well.

Only partway through so far, but just wanted to say this is amazing - it's such an interesting topic and it's clear how much work went into presenting it all so well. Thank you!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Hawkshaw, it's great to see you here mate! Your channel and approach to lore have been one of the inspirations for starting my own so seeing this truly made my day.

Channeling my spirit energy to manifest Radhan’s cat back into “canon” via. Shadow of the Erdtreee

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

What if the cat IS Leonard? 🤯 /s

@esco0503

Ай бұрын

holy crap…

@nockcone

Ай бұрын

Radahns cat is canon Longtail talisman

@why8642

Ай бұрын

@@nockcone Buy they don’t say Lacrima was owned by Radahn :( And to the best of my knowledge there’s nothing in the release version that refrences Radahn owning a cat :(

@wolfiemuse

Ай бұрын

Lacrima is his cat. End of story. lol. It can’t be anyone else’s! Especially not with his soft spot for Leonard

"Pests who shoot rope"

@BiZkWiK87

19 күн бұрын

Rotten goons.

Holy shit this must've been a lot of work. Just text my boss that I'm sick and need to go home, will be back soon I hope

@andrew-rn9ui

Ай бұрын

You said you were sick so you could watch a lore video ? 😂 Jesus buddy ..

@andrew-rn9ui

Ай бұрын

Go beat the final boss already : acquire a girlfriend

@freshronin5390

Ай бұрын

Can you blame him work sucks.

@Poosniffa

29 күн бұрын

@@andrew-rn9uibootlicker lmao

@Scweetoof

27 күн бұрын

@@andrew-rn9uibruh unless you love your job or just love working , no one actually wants to do that shit when you could chill doing stuff that brings you joy 😂

Love how you just start off with Miquella right away 😆 I think we can now safely say that he indeed was the Recipient of the Vision, and From decided to obscure that fact to enrich things to come. YO - Electrum is silver and gold like a merging of the Cairians and Golden Lineage? And who did Miquella, a Scion of gold, choose as his consort? Radahn, a child of silver.

@garrulousgoldmask

19 күн бұрын

Great point!

Finally, someone compiles all of this lost lore. It was all scattered over walkthrough videos, a terrible way to consult it. Thank you for all your work!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I hope it's helpful! It still amazes me just how many changes were made...

much needed video. When you said Elden Ring is Bloodborne 2 because of the Gods stuff, the DLC proved you right from the get go. My thoughts exactly: this isn't an epic story, it's a cosmic horror one kept in the shadows.

Unhinged speculation. Dung Eater got into the Haligtree for the same reason Malenia, the Miquella knights, the Grafted Scions, Crystaliens, Pests, and Associated Tree Monsters did. The Haligtree isn't a home for those lost or thrown away, it's a location for experimentation on those with no one coming to save them.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

I like the theory a lot! Especially with the Misbegotten and the cut lore about the Albinaurics, I could see the Haligtree being a site of horrific experimentation. Though in Miquella's mind he may have thought he was doing the right thing. (It would also give even more ammo to the Miquella = Griffith crowd)

@shinyhydreigon7257

Ай бұрын

Thats a pretty fucken sick theory.

@andrew-rn9ui

Ай бұрын

I'm 100% convinced miquela is going to be evil as fuck like Griffith , no way Miyazaki wouldn't honor Miura , even the fingers together make a "god hand" essentially , it would be the perfect way to give one last hoorah to Miyazaki ​@@garrulousgoldmask

@TeamKhandiKhane

Ай бұрын

@@andrew-rn9ui While its certainly on my DLC Bingo card, I don't think "Traditionally Evil" is what we're likely to get. I am however 100% willing to bet that there's a chance he's the "I'm doing this for your benefit" type and what he's doing is akin to Stroggification or worse.

@Churber123

3 күн бұрын

​@@TeamKhandiKhane Bravo!

Honestly I feel like 1.0 lore was making much more sense than what we have today

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Oh definitely! Comparing the two versions it is wild to see how often FromSoft decided to be more cryptic with their storytelling and lore. And I still get a kick out of the changes they made to the mini Ranni doll item description.

@dovahbrewer

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmasklike why do they care so much about how unattainable the story is…. it’s not like we’re getting a sequel

@TheSkyfolk

Ай бұрын

@@dovahbrewer So people can discuss the story and argue about their theories, they did it for us lol

@anonisnoone6125

Ай бұрын

I absolutely hate Miyazaki's obsession with making everything so fucking cryptic. It's honestly just annoying af cos u have such good lore but u don't want people to understand most of it? Y?

@anonisnoone6125

Ай бұрын

@@TheSkyfolk U can have mysteries but Miyazaki just goes way overboard with it. It's just annoying as hell.

THANK YOU!! I've been needing a video like this. I've always been fascinated by the 1.00 lore/item descriptions! Great work Goldmask!! Also, im kinda salty about the rykard change. Rykard having a secret lover kinda gives a little more insight into his past/personal life imo lolol

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! A few of these changes have been noted by other amazing content creators but I hadn't seen anyone do a thorough recreation of all of the 1.00 lore. Plus there's also the environmental storytelling and the gameplay itself which is much harder to datamine. Yeah, Rykard having a masochist sidepiece is definitely in keeping with his character. Though I have mixed feelings about him being bi, which I go into in my video on why Elden Ring lore is queer af! That said, getting the Daedicar's Woe talisman in 1.00 was unintentionally hilarious since it's a complete non sequitur to Zorayas’s quest. Like we're supposed to find out the horrific truth about her origins and instead learn that Rykard was super kinky and a Dom 😂

@starlost1003

Ай бұрын

@garrulousgoldmask No problem! This lore will keep me satiated until the DLC lolol Now that you mention it, it's pretty funny imagining Rya investigating her past, and the only info she finds is on a random guy her dad had a fling with LOL

the thing about the dragonscale blade being a transposed weapon that was made by someone else is so interesting, i wish these games had of that, like the crescent moon sword from DS3 and how its upgraded with titanite scales, implying it was made from the soul of a "boss" that we dont fight

@Grimsly3736

Ай бұрын

I always liked to think the Crescent Moon Sword was a tail weapon like from ds1, cause it fits into my theory that Leonhard is Ocelot which now then implies he cut his own tail off in my understanding

I lowkey love a lot of the "earlier" names/titles. The Red Queen.... Queen in Black..... Enchantress Ranni.... Children of Silver.... The Albinauric Pots are interesting as well. Generally speaking, Albinaurics feel like they might have had a bigger role in an earlier draft of Elden Ring's lore and storytelling. The current one leaves things a bit obscure, especially regarding the first and second generation of Albinaurics (they're...so different). On a similar note, interesting that the Moonveil went from being a "masterpiece of a albinauric swordsmith" to "a Sellian one". The relationship between the Nox, the stars, the night, the moon and what all of those things represent to Ranni is also still obscure in the current game, and I wish it was clearer.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Definitely! Some of those earlier names are pretty evocative. And I totally agree that it seems like the Albinaurics once had a much larger role in the lore, especially considering their previous links to Raya Lucaria and Miquella. But since the Carians are in the Land of Shadow, I'm hoping we can get some more lore!

After realizing how important pots and vases are in the dlc, I find the 1.0 description of the cracked vase very interesting. Since it’s an item we find only in the lands between, it could mean that some hornsend was living there.

Brilliant as always Goldmask, the 1.0 lore about miquella being the one who would succeed Marika, give some weight in a theory i personally had that, basically Ranni fucked up totally, spliting in two ways: 1-She over reacted to the information of being an empyrean and perhaps thought too much about herself and assumed that she would be the next vassal of the Elden Ring. 2- The snow crone manipulated Ranni to think that she would be the next vassal to push her forward to usher the age of stars, since Ranni was the one chosen by the dark moon, the snow crone while teaching her about the moon, could’ve possibly planted the doubt or straight up told her that her destiny was to be the next vassal, making Ranni push her own agenda of the age of stars forward.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! And that's a really intriguing take on Ranni! We do know she can act rashly and doesn't fully think out her plans sometimes (e.g. she immediately tells you she was behind the Night of the Black Knives and she didn't expect anyone to recognize her in mini doll form, which...really?) so an overreaction on her part wouldn't be out of character. And I really hope we get more lore about the snowy crone! Such a fascinating character, especially considering her potential links to the occult, spirit calling, and the Carians.

@andrew-rn9ui

Ай бұрын

It would have likely been rsnni due to women having more power in the story over men, malenia couldn't be the next vessel of the Elden Ring because of the rot , and miquela was trying to save her and I assume was already planning the haligtree before ranni did her whole plan

@TheAuspiciousGoldmask

Ай бұрын

@@andrew-rn9ui miquella is a very feminine men, he is probably Saint Trina which is depicted as a woman so this argument of “woman has more power” makes no sense as he himself looks more like a woman than like a men. About what you said that Malenia not being able to be the next vassal bc of the rot is a lie, Malenia was born with the scarlet rot and if she was chosen as empyrean on her birth or after it doesn’t matter, the greater will don’t care what type of order its stablished, only that order remains, gowry himself says that if she was to be the next vassal, she would bring an age of rot.

@professorxavier620

Ай бұрын

Well, Miquella is cursed to look like a child and Malenia harbors the rot itself, so Ranni could be a very good candidate to be an empyrian since she's the only one who's "perfect"

@TheAuspiciousGoldmask

Ай бұрын

@@professorxavier620 Perfection is not something the greater will look for when choosing an empyrean, is more like the potential, thats why of three, Miquella was chosen, his age of abundance had the potential to unite everyone, as miquella himself care the most about the meek and excluded, he is the strongest empyrean after all, quoted by malenia herself “the most fearsome empyrean” and by miquella loyal knight on the trailer “his blinding strength”.

Some additions not listed in the video: The sky inside the Deathbed Dream is the same pockmarked sky of the Dungeater's ending. The Imps Spirit Ashes refer to Imps as insects. The swords the Imps use are said to be Serpent-tongued, hinting that the Imps served the Great Serpent once. Miquella is called the Scion of the Vision, which, when combined with Loretta's helm saying she was gifted to Miquella by Radagon, implies that the earlier story may have been one wherein the Trees themselves were in more direct opposition to one another, the Haligtree being a plot by many demigods to supplant(pun) the Erdtree. That Malenia is an "Arbitress" in 1.00 can mean one of two things: she is a cultivator of a Tree (Arbor) or she is female mediator between two sides in conflict (an arbiter). It is a nice GRR Martin pun.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Ahh, that is an amazing pun! I'm definitely adding that to the pinned comment. I will note that Miquella was the Scion Empyrean in 1.00, which may be a connection to Godwyn who was “the scion of the Golden Bough.”

@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask true, and in an item in vers 1.00 Miquella is referred to as the Scion of the Vision, much as Marika is the bearer of the Vision. Alas, I cannot remember which item in 1.00 that refers to Miquella in this way. It has been a while since I played vers 1.00. I used to have pics of each item, but I lost them on my phone. Love your video, and I am glad you mentioned Sceiron (who likely is Patches since Sceiron liked to kick people off cliffs in the old Greek myth, a pastime Patches enjoys).

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you! The item is the Royal Guard Set (Loretta's Set) which I use to start my discussion of Miquella. And I forgot that detail about Sceiron! I knew he was defeated by being yeeted off of a cliff though I forgot that was also his MO for robbing people. Man, I love Greek mythology and ironic downfalls (in this case, literally!)

Video is horribly underrated. Great video, never seen your stuff before this video, love it.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

Wait, Jonathan Keeble is Maliketh's voice actor? As in the dude who narrates the Warhammer 40k audiobooks?!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Yes!!

“Annoying pest that shoot rope” is exactly what my ex used to call me

@sunnywantsmoney

24 күн бұрын

He said "wope" not "rope"

great stuff, the fact that you take the time to point out what fits in with the post day 1 patch lore and stuff that was probably scrapped helps a lot

Don't mind all these comments about your voice/accent (as difficult as that can be), it's perfectly fine and i find your narration and overall intonation very clear. Also, don't mind these morons throwing a tantrum over "pronouns", your reflections on Miquella's gender were very interesting! Earned a sub, keep going

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

That's much appreciated! Alas, dealing with folks who have not leveled INT IRL is unfortunately an occupational hazard of being a loretuber 😅

It's easy for mistakes in gender pronouns to occur in games translated from Japanese, where their 3rd person pronouns are genderless: Meaning they don't say "he" or "she", but rather "they" for men and women alike. And although it creates a sense of ambiguity when talking about a person, they get by well enough with that method, and it's even used in story telling for surprise gender reveals of yet-to-be-met or androgynous characters. So in some instances, it may not be that a character was meant to be a different gender, but rather difficulty in translating dialogue of a language whose 3rd person pronouns are always without gender.

38:06 had me creasing up 🤣 Amazing video man, hell of a job!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate!

Love how when your start a new topic around Miquella/St Trina; Gwyndolin's Theme plays 👌

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Glad you noticed!

This must have taken a lot of work to do, I look forward to diving into this and learning from these insights! Thanks for doing this!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I tried to make it as helpful a resource as possible since there are just so many fascinating lore changes. Alas, Mimics were done dirty in 1.00: The Mimic Tear and Larval Tear didn't have detailed lore descriptions, while the Law of Regression said nothing about revealing mimicry in all its forms. And yeah, I'd been working on this video off and on for a few months but I've really been crunching these past few weeks to get it out before the DLC! Just organizing the footage took me longer than a few of my videos 😅

@JackisaMimic

Ай бұрын

Just finished the Radagon chapter and the change of the map name and its description says a lot to me. I have theorized that those echoes we hear are not coming from Marika, but from Radagon. Since Radagon is Marika, I think that means sometimes we can inverse their names in dialogue and text. If Radagon was present at Godfrey’s banishment then it would stand to reason he would be able to predict their return, because it was his doing. The echo at the Minor Erdtree Church is also most likely Radagon, and one of the driving pieces of evidence is not just the location of the Fundamentalist Seal but after the dialogue you receive the emote: “Outer Order”. Marika is never mentioned to having any relation with Fundamentalism, so I think we can deduce this to be Radagon’s words. Lastly, I just wanted to bring this up in case you’ve never heard this idea before, but Radagon probably wanted the Erdtree to be burned down. Without the Thorns blocking the path there would be no reason for the Erdtree to be burned, using the Law of Causality he created a cause that would have a predictable effect. And we can look to your channel name to see why he may be opposed to the Erdtree: a mask in the image of a blazing golden halo, the original power of gold, a star in the sky that comes and goes. It’s the sun! Excellent video, only a half hour left for me!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Yeah! I've also been toying with the idea that at least some of the echoes were said by Radagon instead of Marika. The one at the Minor Erdtree Church especially, for the reasons you mentioned. Plus "Marika" there wants to increase their "understanding of the proper way" and says "those blissful early days of blind belief are long past" and we know that Radagon was an INT FTH build. And since the Mimic's Veil exists, I could even see Radagon disguising himself as Marika. I also think it makes a lot of sense that Gideon glimpsed into the will ("dying wish" in the Japanese) of Radagon given that having the Tarnished struggling unto eternity would prevent them from becoming the next Elden Lord and replacing Radagon. I didn't think before that Radagon was the one to send Godfrey away! That's a really fascinating idea and offers a very compelling explanation for some of Marika's (seemingly) contradictory actions. Hmm, I haven't actually heard the theory that Radagon wanted the Erdtree to burn and tbh I don't see the motive there. I see him sealing off the Erdtree as a way to preserve his form of the Golden Order, which is clearly in rough shape, both physically (*gestures at the Lands Between*) and metaphysically, since the current incarnation of the Elden Ring is lacking multiple great runes and is held togethaaa by Radagon's trellis-like rune. And in classic dramatic irony, his resisting change precipitates the prophecy of the burning of the Erdtree to come true. In any case, I definitely think that the Erdtree has supplanted the power of the sun (pun intended).

@JackisaMimic

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask I come to the conclusion that he wants the Erdtree to burn because he is opposed to the Erdtree. A Golden Order Fundementalist sees the world through Causality and Regression, a mathematical view of the world. In that view there is no need for Free Will, just Order, you are a culmination of a series of causes and effects. Who you be and how you will act can be predetermined mathematically. One of the ways I come to this conclusion is the Golden Order Principia is based off of Newtons Principia which doesn’t state that there is no free will but is a mathematical understanding of how the Christian God made the world, but mathematic none the less The other is that Goldmask is clearly a sun worshiper, and so are the rest of the Fundamentalists. I go over this in my Godwyn video and my Eclipse video, but the TLDW is that the imagery of the Discus of Light, Rings of Light, and Goldmasks Mask(as well as the mending runes) are all shaped like the sun And the sun is outshined by the Erdtree, thus they would want it to burn

@JackisaMimic

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask Radagon using the mimicveil to impersonate Marika never crossed my mind but that is brilliant! Silver Tear Mask - To imitate the imitator is a cunning play indeed

NOT THE RANNI JAR

I dont think Marika was threatening her kids, but indeed warning them about how the system works, but the one tied to tgw, not just the golden order. Because she says "become a lord, a god.." A new god would imply a new order and probably eradication of rivals, siblings. Same cycle repeating. When Marika says she'd look deeper into the golden order, maybe this was her conclusion and that led to her trying to destroy the elden ring and break the cycle or wheel, like grrm likes to write about. And like many of his characters, she fails..kind of, depending on which ending you choose. She did open the way for someone else to succeed.

1:11 :14 maybe they changed the music because the roundtable hold we are familiar is not in leyndell but maybe in the shadow world?

Cant believe Barry Kripke is making awesome Elden Ring lore videos now.

An hour and a half? Fuck yeah!

just what i needed right now. thanks for you work

Jars probably got the most lore expansion of all in the DLC 😅

Found your channel through TimDiggity! This is such a great community resource; thank you for putting it together!

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I hope it's helpful as we embark on exploring the Land of Shadow.

56:00 - the dialogue is also present in the current game. The current lore of him and the cinematic trailer shows that he's the veiled monarch of Leyndell and him putting down the crown is essentially just showing that he's picking up disguise. So I guess his many titles were just a result of bad/unfinished translation.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Oh sorry I should have clarified that that dialogue is in both versions. And I like the idea that he was putting down the crown to don his disguise as Margit. Since he's the Veiled Monarch, I also think he was using the Mimic’s Veil before Godrick ran off with it.

What a great, thought-through, and carefully researched video. And thanks to the KZread algorithm for the recommendation, I guess. I see you have quite a hidden gem of a channel here. 👌

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! And welcome aboard!

I'm going to be soo salty if they don't restore the dream brew mechanic from cur content

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

St. Trina will be in the DLC so there is hope!

Amazing deep dive, thanks for your work.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@UnusualBox

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask Defiantly some real food for thought for that sweet DLC.

What did the silent bronzemask and vaati novels mean by this???

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

...

@Armored_Ariete

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask just joking with you, loved the meme about JRR Martini

Not gonna lie its kinda weird realizing you havent read item descriptions since release, and finding out everything is different. Kinda feels like a mandela effect

On the Great and Erd topic. I am of the belief that the Great Tree is a plant similar to quacking aspen. That is, a single plant that is a forest. The Erdtree is literally a stalk grown directly from the Great Tree roots. Godwyn’s deathblight was the impetus for severing the Erdtree from the root network. All the Minor Erdtrees are part also just more stalks of the Great Tree. The older “trees” of the Great Tree were cut, burned, petrified, or otherwise killed.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

I like that theory a lot! The aspen also seems to line up with some of the iconography we've seen of the Tree. I'm really intrigued to see how the Shadow Tree fits in with the Greattree...

@kreadapelu8813

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask we will see soon! I do also sometimes loop in a theory of what the Fingers are with this. I suspect that the Two and Three Fingers are highly modified root-like limbs of the Great Tree Root System. Being a Crucible touched organism, I imagine the tree should have developed the traits of other organisms. Plants show their Crucible traits different than what animals do. I list Miranda Flowers, Land Squirts, and Land Octopus as “crucible plants.”

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Oh that definitely makes sense! The Fingers emerging from the earth also reminds me both of Ymir from Norse mythology and Ziostorm’s mushroom theory. And I've actually been working on a video about the Land Octopus since they have a lot of surprising connections with Miquella! (e.g. they're in front of his statue that contains the Amber Starlight and the ones there drop Sacramental Buds).

@andrew-rn9ui

Ай бұрын

Bruh also the Godwyn eyes all over the map look like the markings on the bark of a quaking Aspen 😮

@kreadapelu8813

Ай бұрын

@@andrew-rn9ui also, in autumn, the white barked aspen’s leave become yellow gold. And we got these “forests” in a few places

I had a dream last night that there was an eye piece item in game that allowed the player to see through Marika’s veil from any point on the map and revealed the shadow tree. Like how the Umbral Lamp works in LotF

11:58 this is really interesting with Malenia being the red queen. Marika and Radagon seem to be loosely inspired by the alchemical Rebis, which is depicted as a combo of the red king and white queen. So maybe Miquella and Malenia’s relationship was meant to flip the roles, with a red queen and white king. Unfortunately, this would further reinforce Radagon and Marika’s children’s afflictions being the result of incest, so it might even actually make more sense 😂🤷‍♂️

@garrulousgoldmask

22 күн бұрын

Definitely! And the Gloam-Eyed Queen being the Queen in Black sounds like she would have represented the nigredo.

I was looking for a video like this. Amazing.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

i’m hoping and praying and crying the dlc gets the same treatment as the base game, the dlc was amazing and i love it but i want to know more and feel like a lot of topics related to miquella were glossed over

I always thought Iji was the one who used a Black Flame incantation to take out the assassins. Iji is a learned fellow. In researching ways to rid Ranni of her fate, he could easily have come across some Black Flame incantation to use as a last-ditch measure.

11:50 red queen have something to do with the idea of Red King and White Queen represented in Marika/Radagon. Miquella seemed to be set up as a mirror to Marika, the passive Mecury to Malenia/ Radagon active Sulfur

Rykard is a We/Us, because We are family, and thoghedar wiill deevorr the ve ry gods.

Finally, i've been waiting for it!

36:37 shadow tree is its own thing, it’s called the Scadutree, quite literally the shadow of the erdtree

WHEN THE FRENZIED FINGER DID WHAT TO YOU?

AMAZING video! I am still so baffled by the cut questlines. A lot of them seemed to match up with the updated lore.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! It is wild to see how much got cut but got added back in over the course of development. (E.g. the nomadic merchants had a whole quest line with Kale, then there was almost nothing about them in 1.00, then the current version added some of that lore back in.) So I'm really curious to see what gets re-canonized in the expansion.

What if the cut lore is also "part of" the lore in Miyazaki fashion? He always says his work shouldn't have a strict interpretation or single rigid canon? The 1.0 is the Apocrypha to the current "canon". We can still invoke it.

Crazy work must've gone into this, great job

@garrulousgoldmask

23 күн бұрын

Oh you have no idea 😅 And thank you so much!

7:31 I wonder if that simple change, still remains a fact when we Hopefully meet Miquella in the DLC

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Definitely something I'm eager to find out!

Aye, great vid! Lovely to be apart of it :)

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I'm always glad to include a tasty lore snack :)

They really pulled an FBI move and redacted half this game's story so it's incomprehensible.

@andrew-rn9ui

Ай бұрын

Look how much it caused people to keep replaying it tho 😂 I love sekiro it's my favorite , but once you beat it once you pretty much understand 90% of the story, and had no dlc so ppl didn't really replay that as much as other from soft games

@WHALEBOY777

Ай бұрын

@@andrew-rn9ui Sekiro is pretty linear, I think that may be a part of it ... but yeah you're right, it's just a straight forward story.

The roots at the foot of Elden John resemble highly those tentacles coming out of Rykard's severed head and the insides of the iron virgins as well the womb like area in the new DLC trailer has those same tentacles that I posit were originally hands. Rykard is kinda doing it Marika style. Where he's devouring everyone to make a "family". Family and lineage is one of the top 3 significant themes of the lore I think.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Interesting! I've actually been looking into the land octopuses since they have some bizarre connections with Miquella and they could also line up with roots and tentacles. Definitely agree that family/lineage is a major theme of the game! I'd also add identity (soooo many doubles) and vision (both literally with eyes as a motif, but also in the metaphorical sense of envisioning a new order).

"and the soundtrack is weak to the vuvuzela" fuck you for making me laugh at that .

You absolute legend! Thy strength befits a crown 👑

awesome breakdown. I remembered reading Meteorite 1.0 and not realizing it had been cut out...I really like that it made a distinction between ordinary Meteorites and Stars, which is clarity I think is still in the base game but far more obfuscated than it would have been. One of the things I wish hadn't been cut, but maybe they wanted to distance the Nox from the worship of Meteorites as those are what ultimately led to one of their societies' end.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Yeah, I did like that distinction in the 1.00 version and how it adds another layer to both the Nox and how space is viewed in the game. Apparently, we're gonna get some new Gravity spells and more space magic so there's a chance that can get re-canonized!

i love both the research and the speculation you bring to this universe

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

1:00 :56 as Pleiades is the name of Stars of Ruin in some translations, the name Dark Bolide is kept at least in the Brazilian Portuguese translation (pt_br: Bólido Escuro), just as Pleiades

1.0 is actually nutty. Highly recommend people play it

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Absolutely! I'm also gonna do a video pitching people on why they should play the 1.0 version, though Elden Lean Maliketh should be reason enough

Well now we know exactly what village Marika grew up in (shaman village in dlc)

I appreciate the added jokes. Great video

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked them!

Very good. Thanks, my man

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

51:46 Noone fucks in The Lands Between. That explains why everyone's so pissy all the time.

When Godfrey laugh I thought he was sad cause we’re going to be next to marrying Marika 😂

I think the repairing cracked pot is a cracked pot theory.

Where in the game (or anywhere for that matter) does it ever say that gloam means purple? Or that gloam is any specific color?

I do wish the more Dark Souls style images of some of the weapons stayed in, they looked dang cool. 😅

You're absolutely brilliant, Garrulous. Thoroughly enjoyable watch.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

Great video! With the Loretta armor 1.0 lore, I will assume that the figure embracing the miquella n melania in her boss area is her lol. Or it might be a grown Miquella

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Hm, I don't think Loretta had that close of a relationship with Miquella and Malenia to be immortalized in a statue. There was some datamining of the statue a while back and the third figure has a male body so I think it's most likely either Godwyn or Radagon. Though grown Miquella hugging young Miquella has some real “Obama giving Obama a medal energy,” which I am all for!

I love this video man keep it up 🙌

looololololol not "my sister in Marika" 😂

Great Vid! Subbed

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Ah, 1.0, back when the Eclipse shotel could instantly kill an invader with the flame buff..... good times... untill they fixed it 😅

Woah Radahn opposing Miquella is…. Something

I found the way you say "Albinauric" very amusing

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

It's always a roll of the dice when it comes to pronouncing fantasy names!

@DonutSwordsman

Ай бұрын

​@@garrulousgoldmask fr like plasidusax or however it's spelled lol

@autismointermitente8767

Ай бұрын

Dork Souls

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Ekzykes is like the Dark Souls of Elden Ring pronunciations

@RicAdbur

Ай бұрын

Now say "Albuquerque"

Wow that jar one is so..... yeah I don't want to hear people say FS make stuff up as they go.

@garrulousgoldmask

18 күн бұрын

Oh for sure! That cut line could also offer a motivation for why the Hornsent were so obsessed with turning people into jars. I love how one random item description (and from like the first crafting item no less!) lets us see the lore in a whole new light.

@oliverp3545

18 күн бұрын

@garrulousgoldmask oh yeah we know they wanted to become saints by using the shaman who seem to have some innate ability to connect with outer gods. It'll be interesting to look into what the title of saint could mean and why it was important for both the Erdtree societies and Hornsent, maybe it's in relation to the Greater Will in some way

There’s still an ancestral follower in the lake of rot, in the lake area if you go to the left instead of the right will eventually find him

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

So that Ancestral Follower wasn't actually in the 1.00 version. As Zullie theorized, FromSoft probably put him there as a homage to the earlier build.

The Alabaster/Onyx Lord discrepancy seems to have been more a matter of them misapplying the names--if you look at their weapons and spells, the Caria Manor Evergaol one still had the curves sword and repulsion spells of the Onyx Lords.

electrum is a mix of gold and silver!

I think Maquella and St. Trina are a Marika an Radagon situation.

@ButterDawgDawgWitDaBudda

22 күн бұрын

DLC confirmed it, St. Trina was the manifestation of the sense of Love Miquella had, when he discarded it along his flesh St. Trina died.

1.0 has a ton of lore that I feel like they removed partially so they don’t spoil it for DLC etc

Miquella and the ivory gold connection isnt totally lost in current patch. Haligtree soldiers wear ivory draped chest pieces.

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Ah, good point--thanks for flagging!

Bro they should have totally kept Radahn having a cat instead of a horse. Him riding the horse while fighting just looks dumb plus the cat you can have as a boss like make it big and give it powers fit that into the lore somehow that would be cool too.

What if the strangling tree / death tree is the great tree taking its revenge?

Glorious work sir! Never heard of you but i will know of you now. Anyone who puts in this amount of work in an elden ring video deserves a like and a sub

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

0:12 thats so cute

the way it calls miquella the scion empyrean makes me think he's a offshoot like millicent, gowry makes it seem like she could be a rot goddess, what is also weird is how he wants you to betray her to make the transformation more potent, with the talk of betrayal in the trailer makes me think is it necessary? and did miquella betray melania for her to give in to scarlet bloom the first time, she seemed to have lost parts of herself like her life was shattered also the haligretree is in fact 2 trees, one with the brace that is probably the one they talk about failing but you have to climb down a much bigger tree to get to it! a tree currently dripping in sap, how was the erdtree a success when the time it dripped sap was short lived, but the haligttree that's currently dripping is a failure? the erdtree not even real lol the weird dudes with the big heads n gold horns are up in the canopy of the tree that we first climb down, we are told they come to the place of a new age, my theory is that the tree didn't fail and miquella is still cooking up a plan i'm just now realising its kinda in the shadow of the halietree near the bottom is always kinda dingy their might be unrelated, but why would only the erdtree have a shadow?

No officially cannon "Santa Trina and Miquella being one"yeah rigth

Oh yeah bout to go to sleep to this one🙏😮‍💨 this is an hour and 30 minutes

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Enjoy! I also made an ad-free version for Patrons and Members that minimizes music and sound effects to optimize it for sleep. (I even tested it on myself!)

You can pull all historic versions of games from Steam if you are on PC as well.

The 1.0 translation of the ghost talking about the mausoleum really lends credence to a video I saw last week by Zayf The Scholar, where he talks about a theory in the Japanese lore community that our "tarnished of no renown" starts the game off inside a walking mausoleum and could actually be a bastard demigod of Marika. One who she extends grace back to as everything has stalled out. They break down in the video that during the opening cutscene when our "tarnished of no renown" is being introduced, you can very faintly hear slow heavy stomps, echoing otherworldly bellows, and a loud bell. All of which are sounds the walking mausoleums make. Check it out if you haven't! It makes this 1.0 lore fit in a fun newv way

@garrulousgoldmask

Ай бұрын

Oh that's really interesting! I'll be sure to check that out. Since Godfrey was the first Tarnished, I could see the Tarnished being Demigods, but with a bloodline even more diluted than Godrick’s.

@KaedNinescarred

Ай бұрын

@@garrulousgoldmask absolutely! Tell me if you watch it and what you think!

Fun details, the npc ghost in the weeping peninsula, in japenese details the wondering mausoleoms contain "your illegitimate child" In the games beginning, when your tarnished is receiving his grace and coming to life..the sounds in the background, stomping, a beasts cry and a bell ringing..match the noises of a wondering mausoleoms. Which leads me to believe the player charecter is a demigod child of Marika..and what did she tell her children? Make yourself a lord, make yourself a god..or be sacrificed...what does our player tarnished do? Just that Now my head cannon, the eclipse from castle sol was to resurrect the tarnished charecter we play but that's neither here nor there

@onepiece666

22 күн бұрын

So we are Godwyn returned to life in the body of a tarnished, and that’s why we are so powerful and can become Elden Lord, because we are a demi-god

@johnfinklestein6910

22 күн бұрын

@@onepiece666 I'm not positive but I don't believe they're the same. Godwyn was openly acknowledged as Marikas child were the tarnished being an illegitimate child implies to me it was perhaps while she was with Godfrey. Now what IS an interesting connection between tarnished and Godwyn..almost all of Marikas children have a shadow/reflection in someone else..Marika/Radagon, Mohg/Morgott, Melina/Messmer..even Miquella and st Trina. Godwin died in soul..Tarnished was born soulless I still wish we had gotten more on Godwyn in the DLC or the gloam eyed queen but Imo Miyazaki either they weren't THAT important for the story or wr have enough info to figure out roughly they're role.

And people still take seriously this beyond screwed up lore. It will NEVER make sense

Click on the Nameless eternal city site of grace to bring up the map, and it's the missing part of leyndell.

14:05 that purple hew is sleep, not gravity, i see people constantly make that mistake when they see anything purple in relation to miquella or the dlc :)