If you guys find any inaccuracies with this video, please drop a comment and let me know so I can attach them to this comment! - The Greater Will was not an outer god. Apparently he's in his OWN TIER, so we've got like... four layers of god tiers going on here. - Messmer was actually OLDER than Radahn, so he was born before him. Who is the dad? Nobody knows. - Caelid only seemed to get the scarlet rot outbreak AFTER Melania's fight with Radahn!

@chrisdepountis3430

17 күн бұрын

About Messmer's parentage, I'd say that Radagon is his father because Radagon's leitmotif can be found in Messmer's ost but without the melody that symbolizes the Elden Ring since Messmer is spurned from grace. But he definitely is older than Radahn so this makes the timeline a little fuzzy.

@lololo

17 күн бұрын

@@chrisdepountis3430 Probably a bastard child, born to Marika and Radagon before she married Godfrey. Another possibility is that Messmer is Godfrey's son, but the only connection I can make between the 2 of them is the fact that Messmer's soldiers have a stomp attack that's reminiscent of Godfrey's.

@davidmingle5910

16 күн бұрын

messmer is almost certainly the son of radagon (red hair, fire, name), and older brother of melina, both having one closed eye and a kindling inside them.

@humbleservant7797

16 күн бұрын

@@chrisdepountis3430im glad you are that analytical but that just sounds like a bad reason to start with. Maybe start with red hair ?

@chrisdepountis3430

16 күн бұрын

@@humbleservant7797 I thought the red hair made it too obvious. Plus I'd say it's a reasonable point since the same goes for most characters' themes in the Dlc. They share leitmotifs with other characters they're connected to (Rellana with Rennala, Midra with the nomadic merchant theme, Bayle with Placidusax's 2nd phase, Romina with Malenia). I guess the other two characteristics that hint at Messmer's father being Radagon would be the red hair, as you mentioned, and the fact that he too suffers from an ailment like Miquella and Malenia.

The writers weren't on coke. It was just George RR Martin doing his best to avoid writing Winds of Winter.

@b1bbscraz3y

8 күн бұрын

lmaoo

@theesper7404

5 күн бұрын

Can't blame him 😂😂 he was wanting to do something fresh for a change lol

@jaykelley103

5 күн бұрын

The canonical ending is the one from the show.

@theesper7404

5 күн бұрын

@@jaykelley103 really? I never finished reading the last 2 books out or the series 😅😂

@b1bbscraz3y

5 күн бұрын

@@jaykelley103 only some of the story beats not the same entire journey though. like fAegon from Essos or Arianne

Mesmer and Melina were likely born before Radahn, an item description described Mesmer as an older brother to Radahn

@NeddyTheNoodle

18 күн бұрын

thanks for the correction :)

@Bori.1776

14 күн бұрын

Very likely before Godwin and the omen twins

@josearturocastrejonespinos7933

12 күн бұрын

​@@Bori.1776 i agree. It'd seem Mesmer and Melina were the first childs of Marika, potentialy even before or right after her ascencion as a God at the gates of divinity

@b1bbscraz3y

8 күн бұрын

dragon deez nuts

@k-p116

7 күн бұрын

What item describes that? If it is Gaius's remembrance, it says that both him and Messmer were as elder brothers to the lion. As elder brothers, not literally elder brothers to him

I'm all for leaving some things unanswered and vague, but with this game, I'm honestly convinced, that even Miyazaki himself doesn't have most of the answers we're looking for.

@NeddyTheNoodle

13 күн бұрын

Either that or the translation issues are exceedingly bad.

@Akuryoutaisan21

9 күн бұрын

@@NeddyTheNoodle Can confirm it is just as vague in Japanese

@larb6314

3 күн бұрын

The stuff with Miquella is honestly just stupid. How does he abandon his flesh if his corpse is already stuck in the egg in Mohg’s palace?

@prao4603

Күн бұрын

yeah there was an interview he did that basically kinda confirmed that there's no "cannon" type story - a lot of it is vague and left open to interpretation. Miyazaki said he watches some lore videos and finds it interesting to see how people interpreted it

Mohg shared his omen blood with miquella, in an attempt to grow him into his own consort for his dynasty. This "accursed blood" was what was needed for miquella to enter the land of shadow, which is why it is also the access point for us to transport there as well. So Mohg wasnt an arbitrary pick "hoping for someone to come along and kill him", miquella could access the realm of shadow by charming mohg to kidnap and share his blood with him

@NeddyTheNoodle

14 күн бұрын

OHHHHH

@gublaman

13 күн бұрын

So is omen blood and hornsent blood the same thing? Or are they separate things tied together by the crucible? What does this mean for Dungeater's ending? Does Gold Mask know his dlc lore particularly when it comes to Metyr when mending the golden order?

@ChaoticHeretic

12 күн бұрын

@@gublaman Omens are just Hornsent that are mysteriously born within the Grace of Marika (Base game). They are called Omens because they are a reminder of what happened in the past and what the future could be.

@rawgamesnippets9412

8 күн бұрын

That is true but I still find it odd that Miquella was essentially waiting for someone to kill Mohg after he entered the land of Shadow, as he needed the body as a vessel for his consort... If no one came along and killed Mohg, Miquella's plan was screwed... And it's even more amusing that Mohg is in what seems to be the most out of the way, obscure to reach place in the entire lands between

4 күн бұрын

@@rawgamesnippets9412 he sent Malenia after Radahn (because maybe Radahn was not cooperative, and that is why Malenia marched through Godrick), he didn't expect her to fail. My guess the plan was to use Malenia to kill Radahn and then Mohg as well, but Radahn was stronger than expected and Malenia nuked herself out of the equation. So it was not up to a random nobody to kill both, but his most trusted ally who actually happens to be the best fighter in the lands between. This makes sense for me, the plan just went sideways.

Can’t say I was expecting this, but I will gladly take a lore summary for this collapsed library of a game

@rowanrose8502

19 күн бұрын

“Collapsed library of a game” is the absolute pinnacle of metaphors for this game 👌🏻✨ 10/10 my friend

@pattyc.4978

19 күн бұрын

Perfect metaphor

@Slothhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

18 күн бұрын

bro what a perfect metaphor 😂😂.

@Regenerd

16 күн бұрын

Sadly it is a pretty terrible summary with cause and effect switched around like crazy, wild speculations partly presented as fact and the timeline of certain events just completly out of whack. Its a nice write up but not much more.

@richcook1795

14 күн бұрын

Welcome to souls

Pretty sure there wasn’t scarlet rot in Caelid until Malenia put it there.

@nickfrost4518

19 күн бұрын

I'm no expert but pretty sure there's lore about the previous rot vessel that was sealed in the Lake of Rot by the blue dancer. Also pretty sure Rellana LEFT her moon when she joined Messmer, and was later found by none other than Ranni.

@timlwry

19 күн бұрын

Also Miquella helped Freyja meaning he was there after the bloom

@GetOutterMeHouse

19 күн бұрын

@@nickfrost4518oh yeah well if she left her moon then why does she have TWO

@bobbywalker2980

18 күн бұрын

​@@GetOutterMeHouseI was gonna say that 😂 . I was gonna say by that logic she has 3.

@titanscerw

17 күн бұрын

Yes, this dude has all kinds of timelines jumbled and cause and effect backwards, kinda like watching racoon hopped on fentanyl ...

One thing i can say, I think Mogh and Morgot were banished cause the Omen are more than likely related to Hornsent, which are the people who cut up Marikas people in her village and put them into jars

@NeddyTheNoodle

19 күн бұрын

right on. and they hated anything to do with the hornsent

@eggjones6039

19 күн бұрын

@@NeddyTheNoodle Such a soulless curse the golden order did, to Mogh and Morgott. Cursed her children into the slayers of her own people 😂

@Coffmaestro

18 күн бұрын

Yeah I think so too! I interpreted it as her growing up with the horns being seen as a blessing from the crucible. So naturally Marika would see it as a curse, and her getting children with the characteristics of the crucible might be a sign of its' influence seeping through her new order, which would probably scare and repulse her, so they were sealed away.

What made me happy with the dlc is that it made Marika much more of an interesting character. In the base game she was too vague. Also Messmer, his bossfight, his knights, his legacy dungeon, his lore. All of them are s tier in my mind

@MrSlayerkid117

19 күн бұрын

His build is not s tier looks uncomfortable to walk around

@sebastianirala7714

19 күн бұрын

@@MrSlayerkid117 scoliosis never stopped him

Fun fact: if you go by the lore of tower of suppression that is present right between the Lands Between and if you place the shadow realm map according to the description on the cloud in centre of the lands between, you will see the gap filled almost perfectly and the Shaman village is right beneath the Royal Capital Leyndal. All the divine towers in the Lands between also seems to encircle the tower of supression according to the map.

It’s implied that part of the reason for Marika finally ordering Mesmer to kill the honrsent was due to the hornsent at some point cursing Marika and the golden order believers with the omen curse after she betrayed them. When they did this is not directly stated I think, but that in addition to her already large hatred for them is implied to be the reason.

@thehighwayman3122

12 күн бұрын

Honestly, most of Marika's problems line up with some ancient society that she and Godfrey stomped down at some point or another. Messmer's Abyssal Serpent? Well, before Rykard moved in, there was an Ancient Serpent Cult living in Mount Gelmir that venerated and supported the God Devouring Serpent, so it probably got stomped, leading to Messmer's problems. The Omen curse has an obvious source, but the Scarlet Rot being the way it is can be traced back to Messmer torching the Church of the Bud, leading to Romina becoming the way she is now and the Rot taking on a new form.

In lore there was also a Great Demigod Hunt where Godskins apparently hunted down lesser demigods and skinned them

@justcallmeleonardo

19 күн бұрын

A fun weekend with the boys

@KyngD469

19 күн бұрын

Just a little Horsing around

@Morfe02

18 күн бұрын

just a prank

@SabreArchon

18 күн бұрын

@@justcallmeleonardo the average tuesday with my homies be like.

@KurwaRomek

16 күн бұрын

It's no wonder the surviving demigods attack you on sight, they must be totally paranoid

Only in a fromsoft title can you fight a space amoeba tree dragon to save a god woman from a tree

@glowindark64

3 күн бұрын

True and based

Don’t forget the wandering Mausoleums and graves also have the bodies of Marika’s soulless children that she abandoned. So in reality she’s got like 20+ kids

@Ma.1rr

16 күн бұрын

😧

@BlackTearDrop

15 күн бұрын

That's honestly never confirmed... It's more likely that it may just be other members of the golden bloodline. Like Godrick and Godefroy. Godwyn's children and grandchildren and great grandchildren etc. Since Godrick is described as a distant relative.

@gato313

15 күн бұрын

I saw another video that is hypothesizing that those are actually us, the tarnished because on the beginning video the walking mausoleums can be heard.

@kayurien845

9 күн бұрын

And our tarnished might be one of these individuals due to clues from when they wake up

@demonbasher23

8 күн бұрын

Vile strumpet 😂

I've watched many, many videos to claim to explain the lore to this game. Some 2 hours long, some 4 hours long. They all confused me even more that i already was. This video is the first one that gives me some actual understanding of what this game is actually about!! So thank you. From a non gamer that just likes stories ❤

@NeddyTheNoodle

16 күн бұрын

@@BehindTheFrames im so glad! Thanks for watching :)

@Anil_Matholiya

12 күн бұрын

💯% agree.

@xrabbz2010

10 күн бұрын

Dont feel bad about not understanding the story, ive beaten this game 8 times and im here becauee im still clueless

@polsinplussind6218

6 күн бұрын

Best explanation for me to put everything together in my mind before it was bit and pieces but it more clear now. Thank you

I have no proof, but I feel like it would make sense to suggest that both Marika and Radagon were both shamans, and its how they were able to seemlessly switch between bodies.

I always wondered why varre was the first npc you meet when you start the game but now it makes so much sense. Miquellas plan relies on you killing Mohg, and by placing varre where all tarnished end up in the lands between he leads you in the direction of mohgwyn palace. If every tarnished starts out at the first step one of them will eventually follow varre to Mohg and kill him

@nobodyimportant124

7 күн бұрын

That would make sense if you weren't told to not use the relic until called upon. You weren't supposed to meet mohg until his dynasty was complete and varre just resented the golden order and turned on their own people in spite. Varre specifically states to not use it until called upon

The Dr.Disrespect face on Mohgs was absolutely foul💀😂

I love how godfrey calls himself the FIRST elden lord. It perfectly fits with the narative of the order of light trying to delete the acient history. When new mondarchy was established on dust of other, always the XXX the first came into play. Nothing say that you are the first "new normal" better then that hahaha

Great video! But I wanted to point something out: it's confirmed in item description that Messmer was an older brother to Radahn, so he was born before or while Radagon was still married to Rennala. So probably Messmer crusade happened while Godfrey was still Elden Lord (maybe it's the whole reason why Godfrey lost his grace, since he had crucible knights as his personal guards and was close to Morgott - it seems he had no problem with the crucible). We're still not sure who was Messmer's (and Melina's) father. Maybe it was Godfrey himself and their red hair is due to the duality that Marika was suffering when she was split into Radagon or maybe it was Radagon himself in an extramarital relationship while Marika was still married to Godfrey - another potential reason for him losing his grace.

Having multiple heads, maybe Placidusaax is both the god and the lord. Similar to how Radagon and Merika are both in the same person. Just an idea.

@KaliTakumi

15 күн бұрын

This comment is edited and yet Marika is misspelled

@OuterRimPride

15 күн бұрын

@@KaliTakumi that is because I misspelled it and did not edit that word.

@MrPowow

2 күн бұрын

8@@KaliTakumiyou feel better about yourself now? You must have a lot of free time

Ok but no one has ever told me why miquella’s arm is so fucking big

@BlackFeno

17 күн бұрын

IMO, the arm in the cocoon isn't Miquella's.

@omegaweapon116

17 күн бұрын

I never thought about that lol

@dighad3824

16 күн бұрын

eternal youth my ass

@humbleservant7797

16 күн бұрын

@@BlackFenoif it is his body tho, then some one has to explain how he discarded his flesh in Shadows, when his flesh is in the cocoon.

@BlackFeno

15 күн бұрын

@@humbleservant7797 Yeah, true.

39:50 Miquella is quite literally only one or two steps ahead of you the entire time… he’s at the Scadutree base where younsee the Avatar when you arrive at the Scadukeep and his Great Rune breaks.

Grandam is like a high priest. She's the crucible religion's version of finger readers. Not an empyrean herself.

@OdysseusKing

9 күн бұрын

...false. She was an empyrean, same as Marika and the Gloam Eyed Queen. Marika "won" the candidacy to godhood, and Grandam resents her for it. Grandam even calls her a whore, implying Marika may have slept her way to the top.

@xan42O

8 күн бұрын

​@@OdysseusKingsource?

Worth pointing out that the Erdtree is confirmed to have come from the Crucible, and item descriptions refer to the Crucible as "the Erdtree's primordial form"

Great vid but i think you missed a crucial part in the rise of the golden order, which is the war between them and the dragons

They missed an opportunity to have Rannie show up if you had completed her quest to help you fight Miquella and Radahn. Two Empyrean’s and their chosen simps.

@nobodyimportant124

7 күн бұрын

That wouldn't of made any sense whatsoever tho

I feel like your description of Goldmask's ending as "more of the same" is unfair. Goldmask removes Marika's influence over the Lands Between, quite possibly by convincing the Greater Will itself (though the DLC calls this into question, as the Mother of Fingers wasn't even talking to the Greater Will, so it seems odd that the Greater Will would talk to a random monk). Goldmask also indirectly destroyed the Golden Order (which holds at the core of its belief system that Marika is the one true god), but left the Elden Ring intact. In other words, he used admin privileges to make the Elden Ring a read only file, then killed himself so Marika couldn't get the password to his account. No more Shatterings.

The Goldmask ending isn’t just restoring what came before. Corwhyn constantly claims that Goldmask must have gone mad with blasphemous thoughts after he discovers the truth of Radagons identity. When you read his mending rune it says something along the lines of an order without the fickle will of any gods. Goldmask is removing the greater will (and probably other gods) and their influence from the world, allowing you to become an Elden lord that isn’t a puppet of some god. Though it isn’t the flashiest, it’s probably the ending that Ansbach would have wanted when he says “do it for us”. Probably my favorite or second favorite behind Ranni’s

@nobodyimportant124

7 күн бұрын

The greater will isn't a outer god and is never described as one. Also the greater will is not part of the golden order. The golden order follows the principles of the greater will but it doesn't have direct connection to the greater will. The greater will is basically the will of the universe. The golden order is connected to the elden beast which is a outer god. So what gold mask does is removes the influence that the outer gods had over the world. Gold mask finds out that the golden order isn't really following the greater will like they claim to be. The dlc expands on this idea with metyr who mentioned that she hasn't been in contact with the greater will since the elden beast landed. Aka he makes the world follow the will of the universe and follow the laws of nature compared to the agenda of a outer god.

Great video, a few notes: the crucible is akin to the primordial soup, but made of flesh, where all life was born from, and it wasn’t just horns that were associated with them but also wings, spikes, tails, etc, all present as “aspect of the crucible” incantations Regarding fingers, I find it funny that 2 are holy, 3 are blasphemous but 5 are the amount of humans and most bosses The trolls are descendent of the defeated fire giants, and they communed with their god of flame through their eyes in the chest, that’s why trolls have holes in their chests where the eye should be and can’t use fire magic

@NeddyTheNoodle

20 күн бұрын

thanks for sharing! :)

Never thought i'd see an Elden Ring lore vid from you, great vid too :D

I absolutely love your storytelling style. It’s a lot how I like to and just feels more like you’re having a conversation then listening to a lecture. Both equally viable, but one feels more natural.

All of Marika’s cursed children have names that start with an M, Godwyn does not and was clearly the favorite because of it. The only question is, who was his father? Really?

@shredhappy101

8 күн бұрын

All of the demigods either have a G, R or M. George R R Martin

Dont think the miquella/radahn god/consort thing was meant to be seen as incestual. As the Japanese text refers to radahn as King.

@Innersixeyes

19 күн бұрын

but this is a GRRM story in its roots so who knows lmfaooo

@christofferrsnes9508

12 күн бұрын

@@Innersixeyeshaha that fucker loves to write some fucked up weird shit in his works lol. Not surprised if that’s the case😂

Perfect. I have something to drive home to tonight.

A lot of the trolls in the were actually slaves or mind controlled in the lands between. That stone in there stomach takes the place of where the second face should be.

I feel like when the Lands of Shadow were broken off and hidden (if that's true), Merika also did the same to Farum Azula. She knew the old Dragon Lord was sleeping there and placed Maliketh there to watch the portal and keep Destined Death away from the Lands Between. Melina simply found a loophole that her mom left which is her ability to teleport you places.

you can let melina burn the tree down, then inherit the frenzied flame and you dont hear her saying shes gonna hunt you when you do the ending. all you get is the burning tree and world.

This is so good, really hoping the algorithm picks it up soon.

Nice video, keep up the good work bud

One interesting thing of note is that it seems like Marika's people, the Shaman, were first the Numen. A race said to be from somewhere else. So the Hornsent may have just been xenophobic. Which is awful. But pretty common.

@Rokkettdog

16 күн бұрын

Or the description of numen being from another world just refers to the land of shadow. After Marika rose to godhood, it seems she used the elden ring to shift her and the hornsents home "continent" to a separate plane and after removing death from the ring, basically used the now transfixed landmass as a dumping grounds in place of an afterlife. I'll be honest tho, bc of Miyazaki's world building and design style, quite a bit of connecting pieces are missing in favor of ambiguity and interpretation thus leaving them more for gameplay reasons. How do we and the others get to the land of shadow? How did Miquella acquire Mohg's corpse? If he already left his body behind, how was Miquella divesting his flesh again at the crosses? I can usually ignore lore gaps as long as they don't have direct influence on gameplay and the played story.

this was a good video, always wanted to get into the lore but never knew where to start easy to follow ! like the direction of the videos ❤

Dude, amazing work you have done here. Thank for explaining in such an easy way the complex story of Elden Ring.

honestly, this is the clearest, most comprehensive video on the story of Eleven ring I have seen. Great job man :D

Great video. The jokes made the storytelling more entertaining than a regular lore video. Keep it up!

Great as usual man! The Nitrado poke cracked me up man, well done =)

@NeddyTheNoodle

10 күн бұрын

thnx!! hahahaha

Nice video i really enjoyed it, i like the humor ngl 😄

Wow man I've just watched this video and I've just watched your " see you later" video. And man extremely well done for your first time doing this. Hats off to you man

@NeddyTheNoodle

17 күн бұрын

Thank you kindly! Expect more videos just like this, very soon

Technically, Godfrey is the First Elden Lord of his Order. He is the first Elden Lord of The Golden Order.

@LAK_770

19 күн бұрын

The Erdtree civilization and Golden Order aren’t the same thing. The GO was created only after Marika sealed Destined Death, which was much later than the creation of the Erdtree, after the Gloam Eye incident. Afaik we don’t know if this happened during Godfrey’s tenure, but it’s likely this was either after his banishment or shortly before it. Godfrey is very much associated with the early Age of Plenty and Crucible, before the Erdtree becomes the golden spectral tree we know in the game. He technically might have been Lord for a short time during the early Golden Order, but he very much is not associated with it.

2:53 the game should be called “Elden Setting” or “Elden Mod” to make it less confusing

Soo going off the first part you could say that Miyazaki is the "Elden Ring"... (Sighs) Lemme go get my hammer

The theory for Dung Eater's name is a reference to a Japanese demon that eats souls by eating the booty hole. Translated to the game is dung eater.

@NeddyTheNoodle

18 күн бұрын

Right... that's pleasant O_O

Miquella, performing a divine reach-around, proclaims "I'mMm gGaaYy" 😂

This is insane. I've been obsessed with elden ring since it's release. I'm just now watching lure videos about it. Came across your video first. Idk why I never have looked this stuff up before it's soo interesting good job man! I need to find the one on the base game next

Excellent video! I'm too weenie to play Elden Ring but the lore is definitely captivating so this was a fun watch. Thanks for sharing your hard work, love the lore explained videos!!

😂Love Learning whilst pissing myself Laughing. Best way to Learn.😂🤣💜

you forgot gold mask's ending which is actually pretty good!! I did it and liked it! i did the Ranni ending on another playthrough so yea, a thing.

I can’t believe I watched the whole video! So well done. This confirms how weird, crazy, I thought the story was after playing the DLC. 😮😂😢😊

Huhhhhh? Well it’s a pleasant surprise to see you on Elden Ring. Love your Ark survival stories btw :)

the gold mask ending isnt restoring the golden order to what it was but rather restoring it to what it SHOULD of been, all of marikas mistreatment of the others would not exist, its simply making the golden order perfect

I honestly believe that the endings all lead in the direction of the older games, frenzied flame ending could set up the darksouls story line, rannis could maybe represent bloodborne as the stars being a big thing involved in the game, but that's just my head Canon not really sure if it would make sense

The server company analogy helped me understand just what the hell the Greater Will is and how it relates to lesser gods. Thanks for that

I think marika had a child with a outer being without even knowing it could explain the curses of her children

Oh no.. this video got quite the number of inaccuracies x.x Like, come on we all onow Malenia made Caelid what it us today. She nuked the place woth rot and Caleid is the aftermath of this. Considering something that well established is wrong in the video, im kinda worried about taking ut fully serious,_,

@NeddyTheNoodle

19 күн бұрын

I did learn it all in the span of 40 days haha. Never played a fromsoft game up till this point. Thanks for pointing out the problems :)

@parafoxl7619

19 күн бұрын

@NeddyTheNoodle that's fair! Still a bit rough.. x.x

@neurohack9038

6 күн бұрын

What’s with the God of Rot being locked in the Lake of Rot then?

Finally someone that broke it down in the best simple & comedic manner

1:52 The Greater Will is NOT an Outer god, the Shadow of the Erdtree confirms this as well. The Greater Will CREATED all life and existence of the Elden Ring universe. The Greater Will is more Abrahamic God and less Cthulhu, that is why the other gods are called Outer gods, because they had no part in the creation of the universe. The Greater Will is a capital GOD, the Others are lower case gods.

@wastoodistracted866

11 күн бұрын

So does that mean The Greater Will created the other outer gods orrr did they already exist

@LeonCamero

9 күн бұрын

​@@wastoodistracted866 probably created by mistake as the 3 fingers says.

This is a good attempt at branching out from ark videos into new game genres!

Good funny vid nice change of pace

i learned and yet i laughed, hilarious video

He says frenzy flame is worst ending, but rannis quest is an illusion meant to give you a false maiden. The only true maiden you’ve always had is Melina. And by becoming frenzy lord you both save your maiden and end the chaos, and she follows you forever afterwards as the only true existing maiden left. Albeit in a vow to defeat you, but you are elden lord and holder of the Elden ring, she’s fated to be stuck as maiden forever because of this. I’ll always believe this is the true maiden ending and not ranni, she’s literally a doll and a false consort using her physical form to manipulate the tarnished. Much like bloodborne true ending of ending the nightmare, frenzy flame ending is similar, but here it’s different, it’s not an end due to the tarnished holding the Elden ring, frenzy flame burning everything to start new makes sense considering what a mess the lands between have become, effectively bringing a new design without a tree and potentially a new game entirely

IDK if anyone said it yet, but Grandam is just and old term for grandmother, so Grandam is actually the grandmother of the empyrean, not an empyrean herself. It's probably the grandmother that Marika mentioned at the village

Neddy trolling us with some of those pronunciations haha

Marika: I hate the hornsent.. Life: You'll get twin hornsent children and like it!!

She could've sent Melina to the Lands Between, to kill the dragon gods in the age of the crucible, while Marika herself was currently in the shaman village. She's a bad mom and has no concept of rewarding her children for a job well done, once robbed of the destined death born within Melina to complete the elden ring with the rune imbued in blade of maliketh, she was nothing but a discarded object to be repurposed later for a different goal as kindling. It's not a much better or worse fate than Messmer.

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Wow, a funny and informational video.. never thought I would find one😩

Great video! Not sure if someone had mentioned it yet but Scadu is pronounced like Shadow. It's an old timey way. Kinda like how gaol is pronounced jail in the game.

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@@ltrain420000 Heard about the shadoo tree pronunciation a couple days ago, but went through with finishing up the video anyways. Didnt know that about the Gaols though! Thanks for sharing :)

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@@NeddyTheNoodle Anytime. Loved the video. You got a subscriber! :)

(Bit of a rant because I see so many people see "consort" and think "THEY FUCKIN!!!") If memory serves me there was a mistranslation from the original texts that doesn't label Radahn as a "consort" but just as a king. But to go off that and clarify, consort does not mean only sexual relationship with said monarch/god. It can just be of a intimate (also isn't only sexual) relationship. Miquella taking Radahn as his consort is more him taking him as a ruler/king for the land he wants to create.(At one of the crosses of Miquella it says he cut out his "love" so I don't think he's having thoughts of a relationship of that nature anyway). Last thing is outside of Gwyndolin (who isn't even gay as far as I know) there has never been a gay/LGB character in ANY of the souls/borne/ring titles so this being the first and it's between half-brothers? Nah. Last last thing, now if he were a "CONCUBINE" then yeah that'd be gay incest 100% lmao.

YOU EXPLAINED THIS TO US LIKE WERE BABIES!!! THANK YOU

Miq:" ... Promise me you´ll be my consort" Rad: "Sure, Over my dead body sonny boy." Miq: "Thats a vow, dear brother :D" Rad: "... Hold up." Real.

Damn this had to have taken a shitton of effort, thank you man. Although I was trying to get the gameplay story with the dialogues of all characters and the cutscenes of the gameplay without the hours and hours of gameplay to understand the story that unravels in the present, this does explain a lot 😂

I believe Radhan didn't want to become his consort and that Malenias whole mission for the large scale war was to just slay him. That's why she says that Miquella awaits him.

Two things I wish they added to the game. 1) After Miquila/Rahdan fight, being able to summon Rani so she maybe a God. 2) Additional dialoge for Melina in the DLC, or more dialoge after the tree is burt and the flame supressing needle applied.

I do have to say that Melina and Messmer are most likely Marika's first children i wish it was more clear cut but Messmer definitely was born sometime before Marika' ascension to the creation of the Golden Order as he saw the genocide of his mother's people, Melina was definitely after the Erdtree was created as she herself states " i was born at the foot of the erdtree" and Messmer' kindling refers to " like his younger sister bore a vision of fire".

This was such a well made video. Not only quality wise, but explanation wise. The concepts, as you mentioned in regard to the actual "Elden ring", are really weird and intricate. But the way you explain them along with the visual aid is extremely easy to understand and follow. Cheers!

Good to see a new voice enter this space. Well done

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Thank you! Was a joy to check out this game :)

You know how you said Hornsent was shoving people into pots? What if merika was the only shaman that became a saint by melding properly with the bodies into one?

great video!

I'm sure it's already been asked, but what's the origin of the Ranni image in the family tree sections (28:39)? I assume it's art but wasn't sure (was hoping it was made with character sliders so it can be replicated in game)

36:25 - It seems more likely that Miquella had to travel to this underground realm of the Nox because that was the only path of access to the Land of Shadow. We see Leda taking that same path, there's also much evidence linking the Nox with the land of shadow (the finger slayer blade and Metyr's wound, as well as the matching architecture). It also seems likely that the Nox themselves originated from Marika's numenfolk of the shamans. And the giant ants also connect the Haligtree to the Nox. I believe that these ants played a role in the weird Nox technology. We see this in the placement of Numen runes. We also see the eggs around Haligtree, and Miquella's egg, all are woven from that ant slime. Somehow these special Nox ants and their eggs were a critical component in the process of creating new life (albanaurics, mimics, etc) and also a method for rebirth into the land of shadow.

watched this with my friends very good video would watch again

Great video! Loved the editing and crediting of fan arts! I have a timeline problem with Melina / gloam eyed queen and destined death. The finger reader tells us the rune of death, aka destined death, is "the forbidden shadow plucked from the golden Order upon its creation". So if Melina is indeed the gloam eyed queen, which she does seem to be, and Mesmer is his older brother per his kindling's item description, they both should've been alive when Marika ascended and created the golden Order. It's also possible that the golden Order was created after Marika's ascension, but it was definitely way before Godfrey's war on the fire giants. I believe Melina and Radagon are the first childs of Marika, potentially from Radagon because they might had began (Radagon and Marika) as separate beings

28:55 =... Some fans theorized Godwynn was Marika's choice to become Ranni's consort as it meant her fave kid would still have a good future. Ranni, already pissed at Marika and her fate just went awol and used him as a sacrifice instead...

ive gotten way more story on tiktok videos... everything you went through i already knew... but this was a good video i love elden ring lore

Pretty sure the alabastard lords are aliens that arrived on the meteorite or I could be way way way off it 🤣

You said Marika wanted to edit the Elden Ring so there was no more death for her Shaman people, but she didn't remove Destined Death until the Gloam-Eyed Queen needed to be stopped? Which is it? Both cannot be true

What if Godfrey's titled "First Elden Lord" was just to distinguish himself as the previous elden lord to Marika before Radigan?

This was the best one I've seen

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welcome :)