Einstein would be happiest if somebody proves him wrong.

@interrupted9671

7 ай бұрын

So true!

@julianaylor4351

7 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@QuadraElementalmage

7 ай бұрын

fr that means mankind are advancing

@gon7438

7 ай бұрын

That means Einstein is overrated

@julianaylor4351

7 ай бұрын

@@gon7438 No it means other people overrated him, he never overrated himself. He was like any good scientist, willing to be proved wrong. Besides in his lifetime, most people did not understand even the most basic principles of his theories.

5% margin of error is still pretty damn amazing for how those theories were established and built to be fair

@shorn9996

7 ай бұрын

Not on a universal scale, it's huge if you're talking about galaxies

@jonathancunningham4159

7 ай бұрын

But 5% is massive on a universe scale. Before they added in the Super massive black holes, the percentage was 7%. So even adding big strutcrues like black holes only dropped the percentage by 2%. 😮

@shorn9996

7 ай бұрын

@@jonathancunningham4159 exactly 😂😂

@JeffreyGoddin

7 ай бұрын

None of us have an appreciation for the limit of the error, if they say it's incredible, I'll defer to them.

@magrathia

7 ай бұрын

​@@jonathancunningham4159what if they haven't actually accounted for all the blackholes?

What do you mean was Einstein wrong? This is science. Eventually, we'll learn more about the universe we all live in, and 70 year old theories may just be proven wrong in light of better evidence. I hope he's wrong. That means we are progressing.

@honeybunch5765

7 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing.

@cMARVEL360

7 ай бұрын

Ya you definitely have your head on right. The problem is the rest of the world operates with Science being some Rigid Religion of sorts. Real Science has no Absolute Answers, but you very much understand by our Wordage, many grow up thinking that these supposed Laws made by smart people are Absolute.

@daniellaw2348

7 ай бұрын

It's a headline to bring in viewers and drive engagement. I felt the same as you, so it works like it always does 😞

@purefoldnz3070

7 ай бұрын

its called click bait

@GatMarksTheSpot

7 ай бұрын

einstein is a weinie

Newton wasn't wrong..... Einstein just came up with a better theory that worked more precisely..... and, Einstein isn't wrong..... we're still simply fine tuning his initial ideas.

@gregoryfenn1462

7 ай бұрын

Newton thought that space and time are orthogonal and independent of the mass in it, that's wrong. He also thought thay speed has no upper limit, also wrong.

@ryp1562

3 ай бұрын

@@gregoryfenn1462we know nothing.

@sagarpatil0711

Ай бұрын

​@@ryp1562prove it

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

If we have to fine tune his ideas then he was wrong. Why are you playing these stupid semantic games?

@JuandeFucaU

Ай бұрын

@@KyleHerrera106 maybe you should try fine tuning your ideas sometime.

We have no idea how dark matter or dark energy works. Of course the simulation isn’t accurate.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v

7 ай бұрын

None of us know how it works, that's why we still just call it dark energy / matter. May as well just call it stuff. We know that the current theories are not 100% of the picture, that has never been disputed. We've know that for a fact for decades. This is just more sensationalist "journalism" from the BBC.

@ChesapeakeWahido

7 ай бұрын

Dark matter and dark energy are bullshit fudge factors slapped over the questions instead of actual solutions

@johnk5010

7 ай бұрын

really good point

@astralpx

7 ай бұрын

Because they dont think electricity plays a role in cosmology, when in fact , electricity ( electromagnetic fields) plays a large part in cosmology.

@rewar5870

6 ай бұрын

Could be there is no dark matter of dark energy. These are inferred because of observations of motions thru space and time , but no physical evidence to support it.

99% of the time I hear "Einstein was wrong" he was not wrong. He never said the world started with the big bang, it's only the oldest thing we know.

@stephencarlsbad

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the big bang didn't start the universe. The latest Webb telescope findings finally prove this.

@mpb6491

7 ай бұрын

That's because its cyclical and impossible to see in our universe before that point. Because in our universe technically it doesn't not exist. Nor is the data accessible. The big bang was simply a white hole

@exblosive

7 ай бұрын

@@stephencarlsbadhow is this unfortunate? If anything, this is exciting news

@nextlevelenglish5858

6 ай бұрын

@@stephencarlsbad what findings?

@stephencarlsbad

6 ай бұрын

@@exblosive its unfortunate for those who believe the big bang is what started the universe. The big bag could have been something closer to a super massive black hole jet ejection and the underlying steady state universe theory of creation. Yet these anti-theists are holding onto their precious lie at the cost of science for political motivations.

Jesus, when Einstein discovered relativity, people didn’t say Newton was wrong. He just didn’t have the bigger picture. Physics and models are just our best guesses of how the world works, not an accurate comprehensive one.

Einstein wasn’t wrong we just discovering things that he wasn’t knows about

@guff9567

7 ай бұрын

All science is phony. Just follow ❤Greta❤

@francesco245

7 ай бұрын

What?

@barneymagee3285

7 ай бұрын

We don’t know the things we don’t know about..

@v4ani

7 ай бұрын

When a youngling tries to seem smart

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

you see we have our known-knowns our known-unknowns and our unknown-unknowns. In that case he wasn't right either, someone before him was. Your argument is semantic, as per the definition of the word, he was wrong.

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that the title is clickbait before even watching the video.

@Whillie_Whonka1

7 ай бұрын

Einstein predicted a universe of clickbait videos

“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.” -Douglas Adams

@Whillie_Whonka1

7 ай бұрын

There’s a theory that anyone could pull any theory out their butt and pass it as a theory

@magnuminnominandoom1672

3 ай бұрын

Maybe both your claims are right at the same time. That's quantum physics for you

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

@@Whillie_Whonka1 no that is one of the few (relatively speaking, lol) scientific facts, it has been demonstrated time after time after time.

Look at all the Amazon bots in the comments 😂

What is going on with these bots?

@manmaje3596

7 ай бұрын

It’s outrageous isn’t it.

@JeffreyGoddin

7 ай бұрын

@@manmaje3596 Outrageous that KZread can't filter them out, between the APL.. and the irrelevant comments by giant asses (literally) attempting to pull you to their private porn sites...

This topic is so interesting that it's a shame the piece about it is so short. Good job BBC news! Keep up the good work.

@phantasticmrphasma9874

5 ай бұрын

Theoretical physicists are basically priests.. They take the facts that we know, they theorise the least deniable outcome, they gain a great deal of status and attention and they gain a following of people and peers that cannot accept that they could be wrong.. Theoretical science is like a religion. Yes theorising and seeking to prove or disprove these theories is necessary and exactly how scientific discovery works but as soon as ego, cognitive-dissonance and confirmation-bias enter the equation, it becomes a bit of a sham.. Big bang theory is based on the most flimsy observations.. time travel, dark matter, black holes etc etc are all just theories taken as facts, which is why we will always see “scientist was wrong”, because we assume they are right.. Have a theory, yes, but as a people we shouldn’t pin such hopes on it being the actual fact until we are capable of proving the ACTUAL fact. Otherwise it is just as bad as religion

Newton wasn’t wrong, its just that Einstein was more correct. We can still make precise predictions with their equations, no matter what they prove in the future.

@stoyanfurdzhev

7 ай бұрын

Stupid

@RC-qf3mp

7 ай бұрын

Wrong. You’re wrong and Newton was wrong. Newton believed in absolute space and absolute time. That is 100% wrong. Leibniz debated the issue with Newton’s defenders - Leibniz believed in relative space and relative time. These are essential concepts to newtons theory. Prediction is distinct from ontology. The theory can make predictions but only based on the ontological and conceptual apparatus. Your focus on prediction prevents you from even recognizing the ontological and conceptual dimensions of scientific theory and progress.

@michaelbrown5267

7 ай бұрын

Newton messed up because it was a Granny Smith which landed on his head instead of a Golden Delicious. Einstein did better because it was a ripe mango which fell on him. The next big breakthrough will come from someone who stands under a Katemfe bush because their fruit contains Thaumatin which is over 1000 times sweeter than sugar.

@rickb06

6 ай бұрын

​@@RC-qf3mpNewton was the first true physicist, so we can cut him some slack.

@RC-qf3mp

6 ай бұрын

@@rickb06. Aristotle was closer to the truth when it comes to space and time than Newton was. Leibniz, a contemporary of Newton, recognized this. And also invented calculus before Newton. I’m not cutting Newton any slack. Don’t cut slack on the truth and facts.

I have a copy of Relativity behind me. I don't think most of us could tell if he was right let alone wrong.

@paulburns1333

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. But none of the fools commenting on here will admit it.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

it is not up to most of us to do so, it is up to the people who are continuing his work and they have done so and in doing so have come to the conclusion that he was wrong. The people who are continuing his work are indubitably qualified to decide if he was right or wrong and they, the experts, are saying he was wrong. So, what the fuck are you talking about?

I have experience in computer programming, and one wrong character in a string can drastically change a program, so the chances that your simulation is proving Einstein wrong is laughable. If your galaxies are 7% more densely clustered than they should be, my first assumption would be that your programming is 7% off.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

right, because Einstein was such a perfect being that he was of course much more capable with his mind and a piece of paper with early 20th century technology, than these people, intrinsically. That must mean that the computers and their programmers are just so inept, since Einstein is omnipotent and infallible. I guess it's a good thing that we don't have to pay any attention to your useless assumptions.

The guy sat in an office & "made it all up in his head" having never seen it before. Later on we looked & found everything he said was there. That's BRILLIANT. He wasn't wrong. He was bloody genius. Even he knew he didn't get it perfect. He wasn't strong as equations & he couldn't believe the universe was expanding so he was prejudiced. That being said he was 95% right. Show me ANYONE other than Newton or perhaps DaVinci who understands that much?

@hadrian2505

6 ай бұрын

🤡

The interesting part is we have no idea about what is going on just few kilometres from the surface of the earth deep in the ocean but we claim evidences millions if not billions light years away.

A scientific theory is a mathematical description of reality; a mathematical model of a physical system will always have at least a small amount of error - it’s merely a matter of degree

@patrickcollins8048

7 ай бұрын

Also, it’s entirely plausible for a model to give an incorrect output due to an error in the input data

@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers

7 ай бұрын

Garbage in garbage out.

@JeffreyGoddin

7 ай бұрын

Actually no. Mathematical models have no error. Physics is wrong when it chooses the wrong models, that's it.

@patrickcollins8048

7 ай бұрын

@@JeffreyGoddin that statement would imply that no such correct model exists, for a perfect model would allow you to predict the future with 100% accuracy, but then you’d be able to take action to change it, thereby making the model wrong

@anonymes2884

7 ай бұрын

Indeed. "All models are wrong, some are useful" as the old adage goes. An old astro prof of mine liked to say the only perfectly accurate model of the sun is... the sun :). Models are, by definition, simplifications of the actual phenomenon. That's what makes them useful _and_ what makes even the best only _approximations_ of reality.

First of all: Wrong is relative therm. It is clear that Einstein couldn't have been 100 % correct with every theory. And He must have known that. However, he was mostly proven right. And second: We already know that we are missing something about gravity. That's why the concept of dark matter was concieved in the first place.

@hadrian2505

6 ай бұрын

No, sry he was wrong

Lol. Some people do not understand the word “theory” either. 😂

@KSt224

7 ай бұрын

A theory might at some point be disproved, so as factual as a politician.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

Which people? Perhaps you are one of them?

I'm lured into excitement hoping there'll be an in depth & technical explanation only to peak on - "it's 5% too clumpy"

But there are no solo videos showing, their Universe?

Prof CS Unnikrishnan's Cosmic Relativity theory already proposed this long time ago.. but very few in the physics community heard it...

Some absolutely gorgeous shots!!

Plumb described the announcement as “reflective of a changing security environment and growing threats from potential adversaries.” The Pentagon, however, insisted that the decision was not made in response to “any specific current event” but “reflects an ongoing assessment” of the security environment, as described in the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review.

Well, "British scientists discovered..." is a meme for a reason.

@MM.Funny.

7 ай бұрын

Isaac Newton & Nikola Tesla > All Scientists of The World ..

Amazing!

Exciting stuff!

It would be extremely naive to think that we have the answers to the universe so early into our pursuits. Even todays modern science will be considered as early science long after we are all gone. The same way we see science 500 years ago. Look at how wrong they could be. We’ll be on the same boat in time.

The fact that they even think about scientific progress in this way shows that this shouldn't be taken seriously.

After hundred and eighteen years. What a progress!

we can't reliably predict the weather in a week but they're doubting Einsteins theories because the computer miscalculated galaxy positions by 5% since the birth of the universe ?

He would be thinking, "about time" 😂

What if these types of simulations actually create the types of simulated universes that some scientists speculate we ourselves live in?

@davidcamelot4908

7 ай бұрын

Self fulfilling prophecy’s ? Well mind or matter, ? But mind over the force of say a star , not likely

@lfeb

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like you should write a sci-fi book about the possibility

@davidcamelot4908

7 ай бұрын

Couple original star trek episodes on that.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

@@davidcamelot4908 what? What the fuck are you on about? What the fuck would you even know about what is likely?

We'll never know because we are part and parcel of the universe, like asking a big toe if it knows it's human.

@flintdavis2

7 ай бұрын

We may know, but the answer will not come from the big toe. We need a Master mind .

@paulburns1333

7 ай бұрын

Not if it's a Monkey's big toe. Relatively speaking.

Let me get this straight; a computer model doesn't PRECISELY match observations, (it's a bit out), yet that apparently justifies a news 'story' asking if Einstein was wrong? BBC News attempting to inject drama where none is needed.

@Whillie_Whonka1

7 ай бұрын

Of course the people who created the model couldn’t be wrong, that’s never happened before.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

@@Whillie_Whonka1 why would we default to that? What has you so invested in having the issue wrapped up, never to be tested again? It doesn't seem very ingenuous scientifically.

0:47 this is the beauty of a scientist over a theist

@TheAbuFulaan

7 ай бұрын

The beauty of constant confusion and not knowing what your purpose is? Yeah very beautiful indeed 😂 You also imply in your comment that a scientist and a theist is an oxymoron, when Einstein himself believed in God.

@almorales7715

7 ай бұрын

Most scientists are theists. They're not mutually exclusive

@B0bby1122

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheAbuFulaanwell, at least we don't believe some myths written in books by men thousands years ago, that have zero knowledge about the universe, and say the earth is flat. At least we admit we don't know anything, No one does.

@TheAbuFulaan

7 ай бұрын

@@B0bby1122 You obviously haven’t read the Quran, the Quran mentions things about the universe that could not have possibly been known by man at the time it was revealed. The biggest myth is that the universe came into existence from nothing. Give it a go, you’ve got nothing to lose, open the Quran and read.

@B0bby1122

7 ай бұрын

@@TheAbuFulaan lol things like what . You people just translate things to match what science has discovered, to fit your narrative. For example, The Quran says that stars will fall down from the sky(🤡) as a sign of the second coming🤡. Thousands of years people didn't know that stars are just like our sun. If the Quran or any other holy book was written getting knowledge from God they should have known these things. There are lots of other things the Quran, Bible and any other books get wrong. It show that they were just written by men.

Interesting

I wish the BBC would stick to making brilliant stuff like this. BTW. Hi Pallab. Good to see you still doing popular science (I've been a fan of yours since BURP - OMG, that dates both of us doesn't it !).

The title is click bait. Any video with the words "Einstein" and "wrong" causes more views. It's not that Einstein is always *RIGHT.* The problem is that stories publicized by non-physicists in the media are usually always *WRONG* and misinterpreted.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

yeah that's the problem, lol.

This is such a new discovery

Just like how Newton's three law of motion was proven incomplete.

Never thought the argument to contradict the most fanius scientist who ever lived would contain the phrase ‘too clumpy’

Can someone pls phone Brian Cox and Neil Degrasse Tyson?

Speculation abounds , while floors need sweeping . Cheers

Very exciting

Someone forgot to carry the 1.

No. He wasn't. We might need extensions, but you can't replace gr.

I can explain how the universe was created. When the super computer obtains my knowledge you can go from there.

It is actually well known that Eistein theory on relativity is not entirely correct but quantum theory of graviton is correct instead.

Nah clickbait again 🙄

we all can make mistakes but its interesting

Only two possible explanations?

did Einstein oversee or program these computers? did we follow all inputs as they needed to be followed? It seems a tricky prospect at best, given that his ideas and calculations were all on paper; and not just one paper, but a scattering. What are the odds of error there? Keeping in mind that he did argue with hisself for many years.

It all began with a big bang. For real. Where did the stuff that went bang come from? We can’t know won’t know don’t need to know.

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

Exaclty, the biggest point being missed here. None of this shit matters in the least, not one bit whatsoever. It is just an excuse for these dipshits to hear themselves talk. Exhibit A - Neil Tyson

They forgot to carry the 1.

Created by sound can't wait til they figure that out.

Best guesses are just that, facts on the other hand are far harder to come by.

I've been telling people this for years. But people looked at me like I was mad.

@malachi-

7 ай бұрын

I was saying 5.5%, so man, was I way off.

It reminds me of the simulations of electrical connections in the brain

"How could you even trust a ✌️🙄✌️ super computer that is slower 10000 times of my gadget or mobile 📲" the guy who will be living in the next several decades later

Can we take a moment to thank the camera man in space to film from the big bang till now? 🤔😂

It is not possible for the human mind to fathom the fundamental nature of things.

Einstein wasn't wrong.

There are no cherished theories in science.

That is not only one big bang. There is a so many big bang at the times. This is the theory

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

no it is a theory

Even if Einstein was wrong about half of everything he was still right about more than you and I combined. "Truth" is a moving target as a function of our own development.

I bet I would still get 2 kills on Warzone on that computer

Supercomputer is not quantum computer. I want to know what a quantum computer has to say about this because quantum computer is 1000x faster than a classical supercomputer

Rogue planets and black holes are the explanation - mark my words.

I’ve always questioned this theory

@MiloTheDumb

7 ай бұрын

Why? Before this data there was no reason to question the theory of relativity

@wiszdurazo

7 ай бұрын

Show us your data then

@Kodakcompactdisc

7 ай бұрын

@@MiloTheDumb it just never sat well with me.

@osiris654

7 ай бұрын

@@Kodakcompactdisc😂😂

@realeques

7 ай бұрын

ah yes, indubitably

The key word was and probably still is 'theory'.

The US Department of Defense announced on Friday a project to upgrade its main nuclear gravity bomb. The National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) at the Department of Energy will develop the B61-13 munition, pending the approval and funding by Congress. “The B61-13 represents a reasonable step to manage the challenges of a highly dynamic security environment,” Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space Policy John Plumb said. “While it provides us with additional flexibility, production of the B61-13 will not increase the overall number of weapons in our nuclear stockpile.”

If the galaxies are further apart then predicted with the current level of Dark matter, it means there is more dark energy. There, fixed it for you. Have the Nobel Prize for physics ready.

So where did all this energy come from in the first place?

@JK-pd7jf

7 ай бұрын

And the laws of nature?

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

it came from Einstein based on the worship of some of these deluded commenters

the earth is like the gyroscope of two wheels

The religious aren't burdened with this stuff... to them, the answer is: "A wizard did it".

I watch this news to improve my ielts exam

The universe was created how it is by chance and also our calculations on the power of objects could be wrong.

What a misleading title.

"If it doesn't match observation, it's wrong" - Richard Feynman

Something is missing, fascinating. 🤔

Could be the super computer isn’t all that super and the model is wrong

Simulations will always need to be verified thoroughly by, amongst other measures, observations of the respective phenomenon. Hence results of a simulation shouldn't be taken as absolute evidence of an actuality.

A fish question the water is created after the big bang when human poured them into the aquarium.

I'll remember this the next time bread prices go up.

“The Motion of Bottoms” -By iFart Newton

I beleive physics outside this planet is very unknown.

Imagine if Eistein had the advantages of data from modern day research in Astronomy and ultra fast computational capacity.

Phallab Ghosh.... that's one heck of a handle, son! " The name's Ghosh... Phallab Ghosh! 😎" *Blind date: " Sorry, i can't seem to see it on the menu, is it under the chef's special dishes?" 🤷

Given the choice of: 1) a computer model set up incorrectly, or, 2) Einstein being wrong... I choose option 3) ... we don't understand "dark energy" yet...

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

so then the correct answer is Option 4) Both Option 2 and Option 3.

@brianquigley1940

Ай бұрын

@@KyleHerrera106 The correct answer will be revealed by the prophet Kangaroo Underpants in the year 2025 and a bit.

Mate, 5% difference in galaxy clustering is not "fundamentally different" This could very well be some correcting factor or additional relativistic effect in dark matter gravitational functions nevertheless dark energy

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

is it not? Please link your competing paper when it has finished running through the peer review process (just using the same shit people like you use all the time)

We even don't know who make Crop circle in our local.after many years research.lol😂

I ll tell to you

Respect to the cameraman

James Webb Telescope is the man!

i've always said it !

Or it could be this current 'powerful supercomputer' is still not powerful and accurate enough. 2:25

Soooo, they say that if the model doesnt exactly matches the real measurements of the telescope, then the theory must be wrong? What about the model itself? by jove, that places a lot of trust in the people trying to incorporate all the theory into a model...

@KyleHerrera106

Ай бұрын

and yet you put that trust and more in a single man who was running used theories even in his day? You people are incredible.