Effect Pedal Patch Leads - Soldered, Solderless And Everything In Between
Are solderless patch leads really from the devil? Are soldered patch leads the only real option? Let's some tips and advice on how to make them as reliable as possible
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0:00 Intro
0:48 Is soldered the best?
1:30 My first gig in London
3:15 What's my point?
3:50 Eric Johnson's pedalboard
4:00 Pro builder's epic soldering skills
4:28 Centre pin solder-less patch cables
5:00 Cutting the cable
6:10 Ice lolly stick
8:50 Connector covers
9:15 3 Monkeys patch cables
9:43 Solid Core patch cables
10:40 What you need to make them
11:08 Stripping the outer insulation
12:20 Watch your pressure
16:30 Soldered patch cables
17:28 RoHS
19:50 Soldering pointers
22:10 Testing
42:13 Thanks for watching
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• 1965 Fender Telecaster
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• LazyJ J20 Amplifier
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Having been an engineer at a major U.S. pedal company from '79 to '89, I watched this with great interest. You 'nailed' every part of this presentation. It should be a great help to everyone!
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
Ah, cheers B 🙏
Great video Dan! i can´t stop laughing about the Mick´s photo with the glass of wine on the solder table! hahahaha great great detail!
Met Dan randomly at a music shop here in Tokyo several years ago. Such an awesome, genuine, down to earth guy that geeked out about pedals with me.
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
I remember! Hope you’re doing awesome 🤩
A show on patch cables is not dull Dan, they’re something we all use, and for me it’s perfect timing given I’m about to build up a new pedal board. I’m looking to use solderless connectors this time so this episode was very helpful. 👍
I just fainted and needed to be revived on hearing that Dan once used a POD.
@bkebradley
Жыл бұрын
The POD is sick, don't hate
@Sadsoft
Жыл бұрын
That POD band sucks trenchcoats
Honestly Dan; I’d watch you install a Sky dish! Lovely video.
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
Hahahah!!!!
@ushnicyuvnikof2748
Жыл бұрын
"DIY with Dan" would be a sure hit and would reach far beyond just the guitar community.
Having just received a GigRig Quartermaster, this is extremely helpful. I’m 100% sure I would screw up the Evidence cables without these detailed instructions as a guide. Many thanks 🙏🏻
I love that Dan has a framed pic of Mick at his workbench
Dan, any chance to hear your wizardry and passion is appreciated (and not dull). I find videos like this very zen.
I used for years , the best on the market , easy to use and a must have for the ever changing board
Good to see the photo of your most loved one out on your workstation!
The Evidence Audio SIS system is a great thing! Admittedly it’s all home use but no failures or re-dos required so far (although I do need to get the pliers out as finger tightness does tend to loosen if the cables are moving about at all - still none failed, though). The ability to create a cable exactly the length you need in under 5 minutes and without getting the soldering gear out (because I’m rubbish at it) is GREAT. 😁 Thanks, Dan, for the intro to it and the GigRig power stuff!
Can't go wrong with George L's.. man that George L's, Evidence audio and mogami are the most desirable cables, back in the day when I was still in the band.
Dan, you’re the guy who introduced me to evidence audio SIS and I haven’t looked back. It’s expensive but I don’t care…I rely on those connections to make my living and they’re SOLID 👍 EDIT: a quick tip for building SIS patch cables. It helps *immensely* to plan the angle of your cables in advance. I always put my cable roughly where it’s going to be on the board then use THOSE angles when attaching my connectors. That way you have a minimum amount of excess pressure on your cable connectors and your pedal/switcher jacks. Just another added layer of reliability…
@williamwagnon2809
Жыл бұрын
Your point on layout is very important! Couldn't agree more!!
The cable prep is THE issue - thanks Dan!! Popsicle stick is a great tip.
Cautionary tale for those who make their own patch cables: I once used a different brand of high-end cable to nake up some patch cords. My work was beautiful- lovely solder joints, heat shrink, strain relief. Continuty tests were good. HOWEVER various patch cords had varying degrees of level drop. Very strange. This fancy cable had a second layer of sheathing around the central conductor. Turns out that this (black) layer is conductive (it minimizes cable handling noise). Special care must be taken to skin it back to ensure it doesn't touch the signal path or weird things can happen. I had to undo (and redo) all of my painstaking work. Now these cables are great and hopefully others can learn from my mistake.
I saw an ad for Evidence and thought, "Isn't that Dan's favorite?" so then I just wanted to find any old video of you naming your solderless cables.... then I found this! Thank you for making this!!!!! I'll bookmark it and refer to it often. I got talked into a master builder's pre soldered cable for double what I would normally pay. It's here on my desk and the soldering job failed... I have no iron right now so I have to find a tech who will repair it after rolling his eyes at me.
This tutorial is going to be a resource for years to come; all cable sales should come with a link to this video! Why thankyou Dan!
I got the D’Addario solderless cable kit for my board before I saw any vids that said “Don’t use solderless cables!” Those vids spooked me. Already, I had (carefully) made just one custom length cable, so I used it, while carrying a spare soldered cable, waiting for my solderless to fail. 2 years later, my custom cable still has a solid connection. So, I thank you for your re-assurance. Since, I am currently re-doing my board, and all my custom cables will be solderless.
Made 3 10' George L instrument cables 25 yrs. ago. Gig with them every weekend without a failure.
Love my three monkeys cables. So easy and I had no issues after assembled.
Videos like these is why I love this channel, whilst being super informative to even the most experienced pros it is also so beginner friendly. A lot of channels will dismiss the £1 patch cables as unusable junk but you get it.
Love all TPS videos but this has to be in the top 10 for most important and useful.
You may have solved my biggest frustration with solderless patch cables: the cable cutting. Damn, that's why 75% of my cables are dead from the get-go.
I've made all of my cables for years using Mogami cable and a combination of Switchcraft and Neutrik connectors. I always test them and then heatshrink the ones that it is appropriate for. I used to think that solderless cables were junk and way overpriced until the first episode that I saw you discussing their value. Knowing your experience it opened my eyes. I can even see were they could be better for some applications now that I'm more educated. Watching you strip off the black insulator off the inner core, similar to a high-priced Mogami cable made me even more of a believer. I love watching the episode where you build pedalboards as it helps me build my own. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I'm only making them for myself. I'm an Electrical Engineer and have a lot of experience designing and building circuit boards, digital and analog. Even though a lot of the skills and knowledge is transferable, there are always nuggets of wisdom that a person can learn if he is open to learning. And I have picked up several very helpful nuggets from you sir!! The part where you emphasized NOT scoring the inner conductor is extremely important. It's just as relevant for stranded cable, even though you can get by with a few less strands, but it's just not as good of a cable. And if you break or score too many you could end up with a cable that fails. And if it's on your pedal board it might not be that easy to find, depending on your layout. Strain relief on a cable would be another good point to stress, pun intended. 😉
@louiscyfer6944
Жыл бұрын
i have used george l's fir at least 15 years, but probably 20. never had one fail.
I clicked this video on a whim. I figured I wouldn’t watch the whole thing but here I am 26 minutes later and inspired to give these tips a try. Great video Dan. Thanks!
Extremely informative, and in no way dull, Dan. Thank you, some great tips there!
Much appreciated, Dan! The tips on soldering really opened my eyes to a few things...
Thank you, this was far from dull for me! I've soldered 3 cables yesterday. It's invaluable to learn from other people's experiences and mistakes. Thank you for sharing this!
@ThatPedalShow
8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped 🤓🙏
Excellent content Dan!! I've been making both solderless and soldered cables for many years and I still learned some things with this video. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Hi Dan, an absolutely ripper of an episode of TPS … great to get the expert tips and clear explanations of the little details that make all the difference. Cheers, cobber !
Thanks for giving a great consolidated video on your experience with cables!
Bravo, Dan. This is a great reference with a load of good info.
Video's like this are a huge asset to me and I appreciate the time and effort you take to share them. Learning how to do things properly not only saves me time & money, but I enjoy doing my own set-ups, repairs, and builds. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Great video, Dan!! Please do more of this!! 🙌🏿🙌🏿
Well done! For me, soldering is therapeutic...except for when I bought a double shielded, double braided cable that was nearly as big as my little finger when twisted together. I nearly needed therapy after trying to solder that!
Absolutely loved this video! Great way to look it all over.
A very well made and needed video. Thank you Dan! Took the fear out of using solderless patch leads and I wont hesitate to make my own.
This was a nice dive into a subject I often think about. Thanks Dan!
You are a great presenter, Dan. This kind of content really stands out to me. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Thanks Dan for taking the time to do this. I’ve been making my own cut to length patch cables from various companies for years now. The sharing of your experience, wisdom, and techniques is very much appreciated. I’ve had pretty good luck so far. But I will start employing a few of your tips that I hadn’t considered before. Much gratitude. Love my TPS!
Outstanding content, Dan! Insightful discussion of soler vs. solderless, a well as practical how-to guidance. Best TPS content in recent memory.
love these detail vids, so much good info, cheers dan
I won’t go on anymore but this is incredible timing and every question I had, you answered, amazing
Very useful video and I really enjoy this laid back vlog style. I'd love to see a mini series of vlogs focussed on these more utility type topics that a lot of guitarists wouldn't have thought to develop the skills for
Hammer. Legend. Seriously, this is the best tutorial I've ever seen on this subject.
Love the pic of Mick at your soldering station. Very touching.
as an 18 year old kid from melbourne, i love hearing about your early days in london, and old stories from australia
Really helpful to have another point of view even if you have been at this game for years. There is always something to learn.
Dan... First and foremost, this is a very good video. Here is a little more info for anyone interested. 1) Make sure the solder tip is clean and will "hold" solder. If it is dirty transfer of heat is poor and your job becomes really tough. 2) FYI... Leaded solder is easier to work with than lead-free and tends to be more robust against vibrational failure. For the hobbyist this is something to consider... for a business it''s lead-free. 3) Get some flux for the type of solder you are using to help with reflow / rewetting. Higher solid content fluxes tends to be easier to work with. 4) Get some solder wick for cleanup and rework. It is less necessary for this task, but it is really helpful when needed. It can also make a decent ground strap. 5) Invest in cheap, preferably lit, magnification, especially for those of us getting older. Reading glasses work in a pinch. The table mount swing arm style magnifiers work well. 6) Braided wires can wick the solder up its length. If this hapopens it will start to loose its flexibility in the area affected. This is a combo of too much heat for too long and too much solder. 7) Heat... heat is your friend... and heat is your enemy. There is a perfect temp for each type of solder (leaded 63/37 to 60/40 works best between 600F and 650F). Hotter burns off flux too fast and increases risk of component damage. Lead-free should be around 50F hotter but will depend on the type. A good soldering iron and clean tip will transfer heat quick enough that setting it hotter has no benefit. Look up the proper temp to use with your equipment. 8) Hakko soldering equipment is solid and a great deal for the hobbyist / job shop. There are companies that use these for production. If you want the best, though, get a JBC in my opinion. 9) Blowing on solder... I'll have to disagree with this one Dan. This myth has been around forever., and I've never seen or heard of a real-world issue from doing so. If the joint is small and minimal heat is applied it will cool fast anyway. If it's a large joint that has absorbed significant heat, blowing may help the initial set but the thermal mass will force it to cool slower. The effect is not significantly different than soldering in the cold or with a breeze, and this is only an issue for getting heat applied. With that said, I wouldn''t get in the habbit of blowing because it doesn't tend to save any time. If anyone believes they got a bad joint from blowing, let me ask this one question.... were all pieces held still while you moved to get in blowing position? Cheers!
Not dull at all !!!! A very timely episode for me... pedalboarding is not a crime !!!
Thanks for sharing your experience with botj of these types of cables & their connectors. Your knowledge bombs will continue to grow with great shockwaves.
Thanks Dan, no one could have made a relatively mundane subject more interesting. Love ya work mate. Cheers, Pete
Glad you done this video, a great reference to refer back to now and again. Cheers.
Perfect timing, I am doing my first board and I am struggling with which cables to use. Time to start practicing how to solder. Thanks Dan!
This is an EXCELLENT video! Thank you Daniel.
Pure dead brilliant Dan! I've heard the nay sayers about solderless cables, but this gives me some confidence to try it myself. Thanks Dan.
Not boring at all. You did a great job on this topic Dan.
Spot on, Dan! Well done. Can't have too much information.
Well done Dan! Great info here! I've been using Evidence Audio patch leads for almost a decade, and I've never had one fail on me!
thank you DAN for this topic i have been doubting solderless as a soldering guy i have done one of my pedal boards with solderless and no trouble , the upside to them are if one fails you dont have to get the soldering iron out a 1 min fix
great timing, thanks Dan, i'm at this pointy end of the board build, i've got a heap of GeorgeL's from my previous board, i will be using these but will probably need to alter some and make a few others, thanks again for the great video.
great tips on the evidence and george L’s. thanks, greatly appreciated!!
Love the tip for not dinging the core wire in the Evidence product. Super clever. Thanks
I haven't enjoyed That Pedal Show like I used to for many months now. This one reminded me that I still love these guys. Keep doing teaching moments and that's the ticket!
@noname-ng6sj
Жыл бұрын
braindead take. they've were doing that more than ever now. you're wrong.
Really appreciate and was looking forward to watching this video! Everyone in the circles I run in turns their noses at solderless cables. I picked up some Evidence SIS on your recommendation and they’ve been rock solid. I’m glad there’s some more information about this that I can offer as reference!
Great video with some nice tips I will keep in mind with my George Ls - thanks Dan ☺
Thanks a ton Dan, another world-class tutorial! For me it's definitely solderless ( life-changing for me) for patch/pedalboard and soldered for guitar to pedalboard and pedalboard to amp. I bought 50 meters of very high quality (at least really well shielded to my limited experience) and I haven't got through half of it over the years! Soldering is fun but it does take a while (and burns) to master indeed. You've covered everything! Greetings from France!
Awesome video on this topic! I've been burned, I've melted cables all the above! This video is super useful in filling "that gap."
Great, entertaining vid on an important topic. Thanks, Dan!
Awesome piece. As usual! Never dull. And made me feel a darn sight better about my multicoloured Stagg cables!👀
Dan, thank you so much! Since going full TheGigRig, I've made and used Evidence Audio leads with no issues but watching your detailed demonstration makes me nervous. There will now be some technique upgrades going forward and a refresher of this lesson before each new attempt. You look after us very well! Cheers.
Everyone in these comments and watching this video are the coolest people in the world. This is beyond question.
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam. TPS is a solid family - thank you for being part of it!
This was really helpful and insightful, thanks Dan!
Thanks Dan, I am new at the soldering game and these tips help! appreciated!
Nice one. Thank you for doing this informative video for the novices!
Hey Dan. These are my favorite videos because i dont have the time to research all this stuff myself. Thanks!
@edwardmichael7513
Жыл бұрын
@UCZ1exDvbQ7Xh0GGWd5Twfhw I’ll need your social security to send to the FBI first
I don't think I am alone in this tribe when I point out: I am at a point in life where I'd listen to either or both of you talk about literally anything!!! I'm in the US and am a huge fan of Lava Cables - quite similar to your favs, Dan. I've been using for years, but you made some points today that will really help me going forward. I missed you all Monday - but also wanted to share that I am finally a proper GigRig customer. I've started with power and keep checking the post like a kid!!! So excited.
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate 🤗🙏
@williamwagnon2809
Жыл бұрын
Love the power system. Saving for a G3 for my next time around. 😊
This is awesome Dan. Thanks for doing this.
How to slice the George L cables was a revelation to me! I thought the contact that screws into cable was all that mattered. Thanks!🎉🎉🎉
Cheers Dan, useful and nice to watch. Job jobbed.
scrambling about on the sticky floor of a shitty pub stage just before a gig soldering a guitar cable plug back together to fashion what the kids call patch cables these days.... ahhh the good old days. The cynic in me says electrical connection don't care about your stupid gold connectors, it just want's to FLOW, baby. Your best advice on good connections yet, paying attention to the achilles heal, a good shield /ground/earth connection, really enjoyed it
I've struggled with George Ls for long enough and I ordered an Evidence setup finally. Had a gig that took me an hour to trouble shoot patch cables that had worked forever and 3 of them just decided to stop working. Glad to have a tutorial for the SIS.
Thanks Dan! That was an incredibly useful video with everything clearly explained and well filmed. I’ve struggled in the past with putting together solderless cables but this video has inspired me to give them another go. If they’re good enough for Dave K then they’re good enough for me! 😀
So fun and informative! Thanks Dan 👍
Nice one Dan, love these vlogs. Thanks.
Thanks Dan your a Legend, You gave me some ideas on putting together another Pedalboard. Cheers..
Incredible, I’ve been just getting into this, perfect timing.
Nice video. My dad taught me how to solder when I was very young. So, I’ve been making my own cables for a while. I’ve never messed with solder less. That being said, I learned a lot about solder less. Great tips. Thanks Dan
very helpful! i recently wired a board with the evidence audio sis monorail screw-in solderless system. not cheap and took a little practice, but the results were fantastic! Dan is the man
Thank you. This was very helpful. I was having trouble sleeping and this did the trick. 😄
That was a Paddle Pop? It was triangular! These sorts of videos are worth their weight in gold. Thank you Dan!
You’re a true gentleman Dan. I appreciate the class and restraint in your delivery…considering other builders have been quick to unnecessarily call out and criticize their colleagues on this topic. Good on you.
Brilliant video Dan! Having been buying and making both solder less with George L’s and soldered cables for years and learned some great tips from you!!!! Thanks for sharing!
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome Patrick 🤗🙏
Dan thank you so much for making this video! I’ve used solderless cables for years on all my boards and never had a cable fail! The only cables I have ever had fail are cheap soldered patch cables purchased online. However I recently started a new build and I’m trying to get the best results, and looking at other KZread videos, I convinced myself that the only way forward was to build my own soldered cables. Unfortunately I’m terrible at soldering and don’t even own a decent iron. This video helped a lot and rekindled my love for solderless cables and helped me move forward with the build!
Been using Evidence Audio SIS cables for a few years now (thanks to Dan) and I still learned new great tips on how to use them in this video 🙂 Thanks Dan!
Thanks Dan, this was super helpful and really interesting. You actually answered a couple of mysteries that I had with making cables. I tried the Solid core solderless and I think I was cutting into the core 😢. When I tried to make soldered cables, I couldn’t solder the ground because of the heat loss. I ended up doing a sort of hybrid approach where I soldered the tip connection and then crimped ground under the strain relief of the jack. I then covered both connections with heat shrink. It seemed to work ok but some of the jacks I got were bad and had the tip of the Jack come off inside of a couple my pedals 😢. I really appreciate your objective thoughts about all of the options.
Very useful vid Dan, thanks. I've been meaning to replace all the cheap crappy cables on my regularly gigged board, and I've been pondering going solderless or soldered. I'm now leaning towards solderless, as I'm more likely to do a good job of it.
Well done, Dan. Your instructional/tutorial blogs are always a pleasure. I taught myself how to solder when vivid happened so I could get into a Squier upgrade project. Fast forward two and a half years and I'm competent, but still learning how to solder. The Squier did turn out sounding pretty damn good, though when I finally got it right. Thanks for all the knowledge you drop on your faithful following. Peace and love from North Carolina, be well.
@scottw9732
Жыл бұрын
"vivid"=COVID, sorry. Damn spell check
Brilliant video Dan! So many people are quick to dump on solderless patch cables. I've used the Evidence SIS for years now and think they're absolutely fantastic and they really made my rig sound clearer. Always learning from your videos. Thank you 🤘