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Part 1 in a series of videos on designing a custom LCD display.
This tutorial covers how LCD displays work, the 3 different types of interface (DIP, Elastomeric, Flex), the three different optical types (Reflective, Transflective, and Transmissive), and the two different types of drive (Static vs Dynamic)
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very useful tutorial, thanks Dave, looking forward to the next part :)
This is exactly what I expect from your channel. A way to learn electronics, combined with your experience, not seen in any other channel. A bit of stuff for the beginner, a bit of new stuff for the experiences. Great subject!
Excellent video, just in-depth enough to explain the differences, looking forward to the rest of the series
That was an excellent video Dave!
Dave, I loved this, thank you. I had to wait for the right day to watch it and pay attention properly, but this looks like being a really good series, thank you.
Super useful, always fabulous learning how to do stuff & LCD displays are things I have stayed away from as there are so many possibilities, but this series looks like it will really help me get to be able to confidently use these lovely things. Thank you!
I've always wanted to know how to get custom lcd displays made. Looking forward to the other videos!
Thanks much. It was great to learn about the different types. Looking forward to following the series and learning more.
Yes! I've been waiting for this series. I've been wanting to experiment with LCDs for a while, plus I got a Raspberry Pi Zero (and RPZW) coming in the mail. Can't wait!
Another presentation (style and content), many will want to emulate. Dave Jones, the educator! Cheers.
Thanks Dave. Looking forward to next video in the series. Very interesting topic.
@GRBtutorials
6 жыл бұрын
Same. I want an LCD for my multimeter!
@maclightdisplay
4 жыл бұрын
@@GRBtutorials hi, if you need an lcd, welcome to contact us at: www.szmaclight.com
I was looking for the second video, then I realized it was published yesterday! I'm finally caught up. I thought this day would never come.
Thanks Dave! Looking forward for the next parts of the series!
Awesome tutorial Dave.... looking forward to the next episode.....
Great tutorial! Looking forward to the future videos in the series!
Oh man this is great, can't wait for the part about designing a custom one, I've always wanted to do that!
very informative. loved it. This video is no less than a blessing for me as i am working on these displays these days. Cant wait for the next videos. Thanks.
Great video, very interesting. Looking forward to the rest in the series.
5:38 Funny case in fact about LCD's being sluggish when cold, my mom's car has an LCD displaying (among other info) the outside temperature. When it gets near or below freezing, the temperature indication will blink to alert you to that. Except that precisely because it is cold, the blinking will be almost unnoticeable since the indicator hardly fades before it comes back on again.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
Ай бұрын
There is a video about the Gameboy DMG LCD. Strobe light or a fast camera shutter show that it flickers faster than the human eye can see. Do Gameboys fail in winter?
@MicraHakkinen
Ай бұрын
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt They won't fail just from a low temperature. The cold will negatively affect the screen's responsiveness, causing what is called ghosting. You will see an after image when something disappears from the screen, or a fading trail behind something moving across the screen. But this effect disappears when the display is warmed up again.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
Ай бұрын
@@MicraHakkinen good thing that the liquid is not water and can’t break stuff as it freezes. I was just wondering: I know the ghost of the cursor on Ti Z80 based calculators, but there is no ghost on Gameboy.
Super video, thanks, Dave! Some overview and then making an actual device is the best type of video for hobbyist like me :)
Amazing video Dave! Can't wait for the next ones :)
I still find it absolutely amazing that LCDs are in everything from cheap calculators to 100" 4K Dolby Vision enabled TVs. You don't get that kind of scaling from any other display technology.
@halonothing1
Жыл бұрын
I know it's pretty much common sense that we're surrounded by plastic. But I had the same sense of sort of awe (and horror) when I looked around my house and struggled to find anything that didn't have plastic of some sort in it. The only things really were things like seashells I collected, and maybe my dry wall? Oh and I guess my clothes... well except for the buttons and probably tags. It's mind boggling to realize I'm not just surrounded by the stuff, it's in literally EVERYTHING I own. I feel like this is gonna be one of those things we look back on in the future and say "wtf were they thinking?" Like we do with victorian practices. Like using tobacco smoke enemas to cure drowning. Seriously, they actually had rescue kits to do this set up on the Thames. Or using benzene as an aftershave, when we now know it causes leukemia. And the classic opium and cannabis tincture for your baby when they won't sleep. Probably because they're addicted to opium. Not to mention the horrible adulterants that were added to food. There was a book of advice for housewives that suggested adding borax to sour milk to mask the sour taste so you can keep drinking it longer. Wasn't Victorian England so magical? lol
Very useful video, it helps a lot. So easy to understand even for non Aussie listeners.
Love your instructional videos. Always learn something.
Dave, a tutorial on the multiplexing biasing would be great.
Great video Dave!!! Very informative and interesting!!!
This is a great video, love to see this type of content dave!
Good vid, Dave. Keep up the good work.
Great tutorial Dave.
Loved this video, thanks Dave!
Good things come to those who patiently wait. :) Thank you for an awesome video!
I sometimes used "simple" LCDs directly connected to a micro. You can do that without burning out the display by generating the AC in software. Connect both the common and the segments to GPIOs. Set the common to high and the segment to low and reverse that every 1/100s using an interrupt. To turn off a segment set its GPIO to the same logic level as the common (so no voltage across that segment, even if both the common and the segment change level every 1/100s). With clever programming you can even drive multi common displays this way.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
Ай бұрын
There is a video which shows flicker on a Gameboy DMG. Can you let a passive LCD flicker faster than the eye can see using software?
Well, you actually can drive a simple LCD display with common microcontroller GPIO if you need. Just drive the common electrode and inactive segments low while driving active segments high for 100 ms then switch everything by inverting the output: high on common and inactive and low on active segments for another 100 ms. That way you generate AC square waveform with no DC component relative to the common LCD electrode.
@gauravsingh84
Жыл бұрын
How can this trick work in case of large number of segments where you run out of GPIOs to drive each segment individually?
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
Ай бұрын
@@gauravsingh84for starters, a lot of these don’t have one common electrode, but a matrix of rows and columns. At least logical, even if not laid out as such. Then if you pay enough you get a ton of GPIO . Enough for segment LCDs. Not enough for Gameboy DMG.
Wonderful description!
An interesting topic Dave well done.
Great video, thanks Dave! We want more content from the junior Dave as well please.
love this kind of video, good topic, very informative, so worth the watch.
Good intro to LCDs. I package these displays into our products at work but not being a circuit designer it's nice to pick up the basics here. I hope you are going to cover how to interface these with micro controllers and give some cover to font sets to use. 5*'s Dave!
Thank you for a cool educational video, Dave!
Hi, Dave , great video, very informative, I will recommend it for reference.
You tease! You get me excited for designing a LCD and now I have to wait. :(
Nice video! Looking forward to see the next one 😊
Awesome video, looking forward to more.
Great video, looking forward to the rest of the series. I wonder why a channel like this would have it's videos demonetized though.
good tutorial please keep going on with LCDs
This big single digit LCD (or a similar one) was used in a clock circuit published in one of these electronic paper magazines. I think it was elektor. It was 10+ years ago. Point is: Since they are static they just used 74HC595 or 4094 (can't remember exactly) to drive all the segments. The common pins were tied together and driven by something else. The microcontroller had to do the AC switching of course. The display is so big that it was no problem to hide the DIL ICs underneath it.
Thanks for the video. Ever since I pulled apart things as a kid I've always wondered how LCD's were actually driven. They've been a mystery up until now :).
It's actually possible to drive the through-hole type (the simplest) LCDs using GPIO output pins by reversing the drive polarity in a loop (I used a 4Hz timer). I used a TI MSP430F2272 micro-controller that had all the required GPIOs.
Excellent explanation!
Great video, I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you!
More tutorials like this please !
fantastic video. I really appreciate this type of tutorial.
That was a great tutorial on LCD display types. Spot on and makes understanding of these items so much easier
@EEVblog
6 жыл бұрын
+Bruce Woods glad you liked it
I love starburst displays too, and share your unabashed expression of glee.
Awesome video!
Very clear video tutorial!
I really like where this is going! :)
Njoyed these!
Third time's the charm, eh Dave? That really small character LCD is actually used in one product I own, and one I want to own. the TNS-HFC5 Famicom cartridge and OSSC line doubler both use it in its I2C form as the AQM0802 (8 x 2) A or GW (backlight). It's a pretty nice little screen.
I love his enthusiasm! It's so adorable and makes me want to learn more
Dave is full powered today hahaha
Wonderful video! This is what I personally like ^_^
Good video!
OMG yeeeeeeaaaas I've been wanting this for ages!!!!!!
Great video thanks for posting
That. Was. Awesome!
Dave, it would be great if you can do a video on the operating hours and life of these LCDs.
My mom had a 16 segment display on a Hifi and I always sat in front of it watching the text scroll. Amazed.
Wow cool video !
Those bare LCDs are a pain to drive without a driver chip. I find it much easier to salvage a VFD from something, than to get a random LCD working. I do like using the old 84x48 Nokia LCDs in projects though, they are dirt cheap and simple to drive over SPI.
thanks for posting
Yess! This is the kind of videos I want :)
G'day mate, love it when I click on a random KZread video and it's another Aussie
_Dave trims his right index fingernail at_ *13:50**.* ✂👆🏻
This just took a lot of mystique out of the world, but it is very cool to see that simplicity was always there.
interesting as always
Really liked this great vid. :)
great video, Did not know that there was this many types :D
@NeverSuspects
6 жыл бұрын
There are more.
do a tour of an lcd factory. i really liked that interview with those Aussie calibration engineers.
@EEVblog
6 жыл бұрын
+TheAstronomyDude I would if there was one in Australia?
@Drew-Dastardly
6 жыл бұрын
You could perhaps get more success from SerpantZA, though I doubt it - he figured out where youtube get their Silver Play Button awards manufactured locally to him in China and tried to get a factory tour even turning up at the factory gate kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZnmAltp7qMabeaQ.html
I have the Display'o'tron Hat for the RasPi, from what I understand this LCD is a COG type, already mounted on a PCB board for convenience. It uses the serial i2c bus on the GPIO but i think it supports other modes too, i'd love to learn how to interface with this directly instead of using the python library.
Very useful .. Thanks !
Thanks! This is wonderfull
you make my day ps.from croatia with love
💚💚💚💚 bookmark/ notes: 11:14 strip / eraser pressure for the changing lcd …..ect……tbc….-g-b, bot
I learned alot thank you.
Awesome! Will you do one on OLED displays too? Maybe do a teardown of one also?
Great intro! Two questions about defects: 1) Is a black, distinct irregular blob the LC fluid leaking? 2) What is/causes a round-ish fuzzy "burn" spot?
@EEVblog
6 жыл бұрын
That that would be leakage. No fixing that.
Very nice!
very good thumbs up
Yay new video
today you are a rocket star.
I would love more information about the diferent Bias and how to design with a FPGA our own driver, some display with not to much segments. Thanks for you videos! :)
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
Ай бұрын
3 commenters here drive LCD using GPIO on a uController. So it should be easy with FPGA. Just buy a model with lots of pins .
Thanks!
You actually have transmissive LCD in your lab - the 2x16 one you took apart (that blue one) is transmissive :)
Cool! I have a raw glass LCD. Have no idea where I got it, had no idea how I would use it, and still wouldn't use it since I have to drive it!
uSupply LCD at 22:10! :)
@GRBtutorials
6 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. Is this the LCD you're going to show how to design?
@kevincozens6837
6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same when I paused the video to have a closer look at the display. The uSupply has been a long time coming. I'm looking forward to seeing that project becoming available as something we can buy or as a kit we can build.
Off topic, I dig the chart behing you in the around 1:00 into the video. Please provide a bit of info on it.
In some cases reflective LCDs can be backlit but only 5~20% of light may pass through the reflective layer. Just use other types of LCD, such as transflective LCD!
@EEVblog
6 жыл бұрын
That's probably a shit reflective display then!
@PhilXavierSierraJones
6 жыл бұрын
EEVblog Very common in Chinese displays! :)
Great video! How would one go about to get a replacement lcd? I have an old electric surface plane meter with a broken display. I have had zero luck finding anything remotely like it when googling for replacement displays.
One thing I have always been curious about with both LCD and LED 7-segment number displays: why do so few of them have the "bottomless" 9s, while most use the bottom segment with their 9s? I think the bottomless 9s look cooler (although I can see why you'd avoid the topless 6s, as they might be mistaken for a b, or vice versa), and it seems they would save power?